Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right.
How much do you know about sports commentators?
In light of tonight's topic, how much.
How much do you know about sports commentators on espn specifically?
[00:00:12] Speaker B: I know about the fag capital of the world.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: Is that what we're talking about, espn?
[00:00:20] Speaker B: I think that was.
Maybe he was just a particular team's commentator. Do you know that story?
[00:00:29] Speaker A: No.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: They came. It was a baseball game, and they came back from a commercial, and the commentator just goes, the fag capital of the world.
All right, we're back with the Giants.
And then it comes back from the next commercial, and he's like, I'm very sorry. I was talking off mic during commercial.
I really hope that the organization can forgive me for those comments.
Bryce Teodosio with a. With a triple.
He interrupts his own apology and just breaks into commentary.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: I might have to check that out. Dude, that's hilarious.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: Okay. You obviously had something in mind.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So do you know who Skip Bayless is?
[00:01:23] Speaker B: No, not by name.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: Really? Okay. Well, I mean, like, don't get me wrong, I don't really know of him, but I know I've seen his stuff. But he's not someone. If you ask me about sports commentators, would I be like, oh, Skip Bayless?
Anyhow, the other one's a little more famous, so I figure I'm gonna leave that to you. But I'm going with your name tonight is Skip Bayless, because he's known for dishing fresh, hot takes.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: All right. All right.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: Well, we're talking about cancellations.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: There's actually quite a couple questions if you scroll down.
[00:02:04] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: It's gonna call you Louie.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: Who? Louie what? Ck.
Yeah.
Okay, hold on, then. Hold on. Do you know who you remind me of?
You remind me. I'm calling you.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: I'm not going to like this.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: I'm going to call you Danny.
[00:02:21] Speaker B: Danny.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Danny.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: To meet the groom.
To meet the groom.
Danny McBride. You're Danny McBride, bro.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: The more I watch Eastbound and Down, I'm like, that's. That's.
That's Danny. Like, you know, like, I see it,
[00:02:47] Speaker B: and I'm like, I feel the same way about you when I watch Eastbound it Down,
[00:02:52] Speaker A: He's. But his. His, like, his tantrums. I can see that. Where you're just like, I can't stop yelling because that means I lost.
Like, I can see that
[00:03:06] Speaker B: tab.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: So I just typed that in, dude. I actually typed in, if you guys want to follow along at home with us, class, point, point, IO, forward, slash, blog for slash. Because she sent in, in A text and so.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Oh, I thought it was on the, the Google Doc.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: No, so I just scrolled down, see
[00:03:27] Speaker B: if I can pull that up on my phone.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: But let me ask you, man, how was your week? Why you do that?
[00:03:37] Speaker B: It's good. Good. Not a lot.
Not a lot happened.
Just watching the baby every day, man,
[00:03:49] Speaker A: I feel like I'm watching a friend die in front of my eyes.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: All right, what about you?
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Damn, man. Yeah, Nothing. Just no wakeboarding.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: Nothing.
[00:04:06] Speaker A: Nothing adventurous?
[00:04:07] Speaker B: No. You know, we went to a friend's kids birthday party at Lake Mission Viejo and I brought the paddle board and I made a classic mistake, dude. I. Because you're not allowed to launch shit
[00:04:23] Speaker A: where like you brought a paddle board to a wakeboard party. I get it.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: No, no, I wish, I wish that's all that happened.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: I.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: You're not allowed to launch a paddle board typically from like a beach where people are swimming. There's usually like designated areas for it. And the lake being so strict, I was like, I better ask where I'm allowed to do this just so no one can know. There's like frickin lifeguard boats circling around like they're, they're on top of shit.
One of the lifeguards.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Okay, so I go to one of the lifeguards and I'm like, hey, where am I allowed to launch a paddle board? And this classic mistake, dude. I just didn't think quickly enough.
But he goes, oh, is it registered with the lake? And I went, no.
As soon as I said no, I was like, ah, fuck, I should have just lied. Why didn't I lie? But then I realized later, like, even I lied, if it was registered with the lake, I would definitely know where I'm allowed to, to cast off. So like he had me.
So I, I carried around this goddamn paddle board and then it just sat in the sand for the whole party. I did.
[00:05:37] Speaker A: Oh, bro, let me ask you, tell me about your paddle board.
[00:05:42] Speaker B: It's inflatable.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Okay. Why didn't you just deflate?
[00:05:47] Speaker B: Was. Yeah, it was all wrapped up in, in its paddle bag.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: They're pretty big though.
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Heavy as. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: But it's like a backpack. So you can like put it on and you.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's like a duffel bag backpack.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it's probably £60.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's real big. Like it's not like. Yeah, a backpack.
[00:06:06] Speaker B: It's like the size of my torso.
[00:06:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[00:06:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: I went with a friend paddle boarding and hers were inflatable. So that's why I was wondering. I'm like, dude, like, felt like you were playing the part, like Endless Summer. You're just walking with your fucking paddle board up and down the shore the whole day. Like,
[00:06:26] Speaker B: oh, dude, I. I do think that if I was single.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Oh my gosh.
This thought is actually in your mind.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: No, I mean, just this thought. The only thought.
[00:06:42] Speaker A: Don't put that on me.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: If. If I had no obligations, I would probably be doing nothing else. I would probably be at the harbor every single day, paddle boarding. If I had nothing else to do, that would be.
[00:06:55] Speaker A: I can see that, bro.
And you've thought about that. When you're out there and it's in that time of serene and. And I guess time of serenity, I don't know what it is, but anyhow, you're out there, nothing in the world but the. But the water in front of you. And you've had that thought where you're like, if I didn't have these, like, if I wasn't married, if I was just. I could do this all day. This is what I want to do. I don't want to go home to them, but this is what I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah. I found my purpose.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Do you remember on the men's retreat when had that exact moment, like out loud to everyone?
Do you remember that?
[00:07:37] Speaker A: I think that was right before I met him.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: No, you were. You were on the retreat. You guys. Actually, you guys were drinking brandy together out of that thing that you had that like heated up.
You'd like put a candle under it and it like the brandy.
And we were. We were at Adam's parents cabin.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: What a pain in the ass that whole thing was. I remember how bunch of a. Adam was about that, keeping that cabin clean, but we were there.
[00:08:07] Speaker A: We stayed in like three cabins and that was one of them.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: Right?
[00:08:11] Speaker A: You.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: You were assigned to that cabin. But then Ben and I were at the other cabin. And after you got a load of like how strict it was over at the other cabin, you were like that. You came over to our cabin.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: It was.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: I think it was two, but we were. We were watching the sunset on the deck and it was amazing. I mean, it was.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: Sunsets I've ever seen.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: It was just like us three.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I don't. I don't remember. I. I know it was at least us three, but.
[00:08:44] Speaker A: No, because I think T was there too.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: He.
Mario was definitely there and he heard it because he talked about it later.
But it might have been all of us, dude, for all I know.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I think there was like five or six of us actually, man.
[00:08:57] Speaker B: But he just starts crying and he just goes, God doesn't want me to be married. You know, God wants me to be able to enjoy. Okay, dude, like this.
[00:09:05] Speaker A: What do you do in that situation, bro? I've had so many guys tell me that, like, God doesn't be married and. Or I haven't heard from God. And I'm like, bro, if you're a Bible believing person, God has spoke to you either one through scripture, number one through scripture. The rest is secondary, bro. Like, you know, God does not desire divorce. It was created for, man. Totally get it.
And it's funny, this is brought up just to switch gears a little bit. This conversation came up in my relationship, you know, like, shows, you know, something was said tonight in, in our, in our group about biblically. Like, we know what the Bible says about marriages and that, like, you're supposed to esteem your partner.
You know, you, you love them before the kids.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: And I'm like, okay, so I don't know where she's going with this. I don't know if she's going like, hey, so to be a biblical man, that's how you have to love me. I'm your partner.
I go, let's check this out. I said, from my point of view, you love and you know, like, I can't stop that.
You've known him no matter. You've known him for. Matter what I do, but you've known him for 90. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you'd known him for 19 years.
If I was to say, like, hey, me or him, who you choosing?
Like, biblically, you're gonna have to choose me. If you're holding me to the same standard, I said, but I can't ever see me doing that for you. Well, like, not for you, for anybody do that.
Well, I wouldn't do that for, for anybody. Yeah. But then it came down to, well, what is. What does that really look like? And I was like, here's the thing. I could see it looking like this, especially in our situation.
I esteem and respect you highly.
And like, I show you the utmost respect, especially in front of our children. Your children. My children. Like, I treat you, you know, we're united. I guess united, there's a deep respect.
But that doesn't mean like, love, like unconditional love, because yours is conditional.
You cheat on me, we done.
But like, literally, my kids could go to prison for murdering someone.
They could go to prison for heinous crimes. They could just be failures in life.
And I'm still going to have a deep love and heart for them. Like, that's. And I'm like, that's, that's, like that's, that's where it's at, dude. Like, I don't know how that looks, but we landed on that. It, it is a deep respect and, you know, admiration, I don't know that's the actual word, but a deep respect, that's not the word. I'm looking for a deep respect for each other. Let's just leave it at that.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I.
Years ago it was posited to me that if your wife and kid are drowning, your obligation is to save your wife.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: So we went down that rabbit hole too.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: Here's my thought.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: She wouldn't want me to.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Here's my thought and this is plain.
[00:12:20] Speaker B: Take me there. Take me there.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: I got this. Passionate. Passionate.
This, that. That night we brought this up, I said, here's the thing.
If you're drowning, you're both drowning. Who am I saving? I'm sorry. Don't care if you're my current wife, my ex wife, saving the kids. Why? Because you are an adult.
You should not be struggling with, with swimming. Like I should be able to count on you like you, you are. You're my number two bro.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: You know what I mean?
[00:12:56] Speaker A: Like, I depend.
Yes.
I'm saving the fucking kid. I'm sorry.
Yeah, you almost deserve to drown if you're a 30 plus year old person struggling to swim.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: Even if it's.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: I'm not jumping in. There's a buoy I'm throwing out. Throwing it to the kid.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I might save the kid before I even knew my wife was
[00:13:22] Speaker A: having a problem, you know?
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:26] Speaker A: Wait, now that I think back, was she even there?
[00:13:30] Speaker B: Yeah, she.
I saw her on the beach and then middle, middle, middle. We came back and she wasn't there.
Oh, man, what a. I think she was sleeping out of jail free card. That would be.
Man, keep the kid. She's out of the. I mean, God, you. But here's the thing where you close the door, you open a window.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: I'm telling you from experience, it's not like a puppy.
It's not the same effect as a puppy. You know what I mean? Like puppies, you walk down girls like, can I play with the. Can I pet him? It just happens. You get a cute puppy, but a kid, they're like, well, there's my sugar daddy, he's not gonna be spending money on me. He's gonna be spending on this kid.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: I would be. And I mean, I guess this would speak more to the quality of, like, woman that I would be involved with, but I would be, like, legitimately concerned that another woman would harm my kid.
I think. I think physically you're most likely.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: But you have to have. There's a couple things you have to put in place in this situation.
One, they don't meet the kid until they have. Oh, for sure. Met your standard. Like. Yeah. Two, you need to be a good judge of character, where if something feels off in you, that. That's that gut feeling. Trust your gut.
No, and if you need some, like, inspiration for that and some drive, think about how it's gonna mess up your kid.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Because I know sometimes we're like, no, but we go back and we hit it, and then we're tied up for a day or two, and then we make something up where we get out of it. And then like, couple months goes by, you're right back in it. You know what I'm saying? You just want a night of fun. So the second time you. You're tossing in some liquor, you're both getting. Getting gone. You know what I mean? So that way you can say, like, oh, it was a one off, crazy night, you know, that doesn't mean we're back together.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: That doesn't need to carry over. That doesn't need to carry over to the other parts of your life.
[00:15:44] Speaker A: Exactly.
But, you know, if you keep breaking up with them, you don't want to. You don't want that around your kid.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: No.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:51] Speaker B: No.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: All right, all right, I'm sorry.
I digress.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah, well, anyways, we'll save that for. We'll cross that bridge when we get you in.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: Crazy. Hey, dude, the crazy roller coaster we just went on, we were like, yeah, like, they were like, dead or gone. And I could just fucking be on the water all day. Just. I could see. And although we are both bald, we both pictured each other with long beach hair, like, dreaded shit. And then we kind of went back up the hair. We were like, oh, but it's probably real light up here, but we cover it up. Like, we went through all that and we were like, I'd still do it. And they were like, yeah. And then we. We end up with, like, single dad, you know, running prospects, like, just, nope, not suitable. You can't settle because usually you would settle, but now you got a kid to think about.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah, well, if I had a dead Wife. And then subsequently, extra cash, I would get the hair surgery, I think.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, so. Okay, let me ask you about that.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: Can I tell you something sad first?
[00:17:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: I. I looked into it. I'm too far gone. I'm. I'm too bald for the surgery to work on me.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: Hey, so in the meantime, what you should do is there's. There's oils you can put on your head that, like, help it. Help it grow. To restore it, at least.
No, I. I could just be repeating some garbage on Instagram.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: Question's got to be, why the hell do you not have hair?
[00:17:34] Speaker A: If this is something for me, dude, it's. I don't. I. I don't have the luxury. Not saying you do, but you're in a better spot of getting past the ugly phase.
You know what I mean? There's the ugly phase, and I'm not a guy. That's good. Like, when I don't like wearing a baseball cap all the time.
And so when I take it off and I'm like, oh, I have to wear a baseball cap, because I know right now it's, like, sparse. You know what I mean? Especially at the V. I just don't have the patience for that. I don't have. I can't. I can't.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I've. I've let it grow out. You know, I think I let it grow out three or four weeks, and, boy, it was rough.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Yeah. It was like, you look in the mirror, you, like, you might wake up like, today's the day. Like, we're gonna go to the beach. I'm gonna go wakeboarding or paddle boarding. And then you look in the mirror, and you're like, why am I even living?
It's like.
Like I took a square inch of my hair that used to be there when it was growing back. Yeah. And literally, dude, it looked like a. Like a forest after a wildfire came through. It was like you could.
You'd be walking a minute for the next tree trunk, you know, standing. It was. It was. It was pathetic.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Dude, when shaved, going through my old photos, I can pinpoint, like, the year that.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we all could really think bald.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Because, like, I thought I was bald at 22.
And then I saw a picture of myself at 22, and I was like, I mean, that was not a bad head of hair. Like, what was I complaining about? And then 23, 24, by the time I met my wife, I should not have had hair anymore.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: So that's the thing.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Shaving it.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: That's the crazy thing because she met you in that phase. She didn't meet the. The full head hair you.
So I figure, like, I'm kind of thrown for a loop.
She definitely loves you.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: What a. What a dipshit. I. I mean, like, I just look at pictures of myself and I think, you let me inside.
Like, what is wrong with you?
[00:19:51] Speaker A: Maybe it was the hair. Maybe she likes just a little, you know? Dude, I don't.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: What all of. All of her exes have are like, were like balding.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: All right, so let me. Oh.
Oh, damn. So you're. Yeah, your. Your ride's almost over. Hey, do. Does she like beards and. And mustaches?
[00:20:14] Speaker B: She proof. Yeah, she prefers like a five o' clock shadow.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: You. Hey, can you get that?
[00:20:23] Speaker B: Yeah, dude.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: Sport it, bro.
[00:20:25] Speaker B: Yeah, why, man?
[00:20:27] Speaker A: Just. Dude, now you're just doing clippers. If she likes it and it doesn't hurt. What are you doing right now? You going out on interviews?
[00:20:35] Speaker B: No.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Okay, so next podcast you'll have a five o' clock shout out.
You're over here bitching about like, yeah,
[00:20:42] Speaker B: man, like, you know.
No, I haven't had any interviews.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Fruits.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Way to bring the podcast down.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: Fruit's been a little dry over here lately. Tree hasn't been pin producing.
You give her the five o' clock shadow? Nah. Well, don't expect to eat for free.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: I mean, that would just be the hundredth thing that I've tried that would bear no fruit.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: So you keep trying, bro. You keep trying till you're done. Let your daughter see it.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: Hurts my self esteem.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: I feel.
[00:21:16] Speaker B: I feel better when I just don't try.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: At least I succeed in that. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. Yeah, I get it.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: All right, so no, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. I'll try it. And speaking of crazy hair, I know this doesn't matter at all, but I drove by field house.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Whoa, whoa, you're choppy. What'd you say?
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Speaking of crazy hair, I drove by Fieldy's house the other day.
[00:21:44] Speaker A: Oh, in Nellygale?
[00:21:45] Speaker B: Yeah, just. We were gonna go visit my wife at work and I just had like 10 minutes to kill, so I was like, let's check this house out.
Even for Nelly, Gale kinda stands out as like one of the bigger, crazier houses. Dude, there's an underground garage.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been in there.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: It's. It's a nice. It's a nice place.
[00:22:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: I'm surprised he saved though, bro.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: Really?
[00:22:14] Speaker A: It was a party, like Not a crazy party. Not a lot of people. It was maybe six couples, but like, here I am freshly coming off of the.
Out of the water, I guess, and I'm like, no, I don't drink now. You know, you know, the. The Calvary way. I don't do none of that. You know, I don't partake with those who do. You know what I mean? So I'm kind of off on my own little area, dude. And those five are all drinking. And I just. I wasn't confident as a man. I was insecure.
It was. It was not good.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: I wonder if you had had a few drinks with, like, if. If the trajectory would have been different, like, if you would have ended up like one of his best friends, like going on tour with him and stuff.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: I wonder. Yeah, I wonder, honestly, like, if the people I met then I met with this, with the different, you know, understanding of who I am. I think a lot of relationships definitely would be different. For sure.
For sure. Yeah.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Some of them non existent.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: Don't say that. I love our podcast.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: I think we would have gotten along better sooner.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: I wouldn't have had those damn start.
Wouldn't have those damn kids.
[00:23:35] Speaker B: We would have started this podcast in 2012, dude.
[00:23:38] Speaker A: We'd probably be something right now.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: At least 100. At least 100 listeners. Least. I know we could do it by that. By. Dude, within. Come on, 14 years, we get 100.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Just a hundred Patreon subscribers.
We're bringing in 500.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: Why aren't you setting that up, bro? They could have got the take on you and your girl's relationship.
You know what I mean?
You're right.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: I had that exact same thought. I was like, we could have let the microphones keep rolling and then that could have been a Patreon episode.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: I did. I did let my microphone roll. You'll hear it.
[00:24:17] Speaker B: I didn't.
[00:24:18] Speaker A: I know you didn't. We can fill in those blanks.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: You just have a good impression.
[00:24:25] Speaker A: That's another Patreon episode. The. Just the sir take. That's it.
[00:24:32] Speaker B: Just your after show commentary about everything that Danny's up.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: And then we line him up with we found his audio.
Yeah, what you missed. And then we add one with you see?
[00:24:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I just wanted to wait till we had more sub. More listeners. But I mean, we could launch it.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: I don't know how well it's gonna do, man.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: Yeah, it's demoralizing to have two Patreon subscribers.
I'll tell you that. I've been there.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's I could see that, dude. I. I would feel that. I think, well, that's the whole bit with social media.
You get that hit from like the followers going up or the watch is going up, you know, so.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah, and I. I got some advice that I hadn't thought of because I was worried about like putting stuff on social media because it just has a way of like getting to people, like in your contact list and stuff.
Then I saw someone was like, oh yeah, when I start a new Instagram, I block everyone who I know in real life so that all the engagement is organic.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: And I'm like, you know what kind of work? Really though?
[00:25:47] Speaker B: No, cuz I can just go to my follower list and your follower list and just click, click, click.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: Yeah, you're now going through. I mean, I don't know how many followers you got, but I'm pushing a good. Like, I'm kind of curious what I'm pushing. Maybe 204, I think.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: I think I got 680.
[00:26:07] Speaker A: That's a lot, bro.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: But I don't need to block.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: You got to find them all too.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: Just. Just ones I know personally.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Damn, dude, I only got 106.
But you're free of it.
Hell yeah, I am.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: Hell yeah, I am. All right, Danny, what's tonight's topic?
Hey, crowd audience, I guess, is better. Welcome to Pseudonyms.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: Oh yeah, that's right.
Is that our record now? 26 minutes? That might be.
And then I think we had one that was like a whole episode.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: I don't think we did, dude, because you said that during the episode and I was like, nah, I think we back.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: I never actually. I never said the name of the show.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: I haven't listened to it yet.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: No, I did. I edited it.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Nope, it's out, man.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: No, I think so.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Nope, it's out.
All right, man.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: Now the funniest part. The funniest part is that I start to get into it and then you interrupt me for something and then I never actually say the name of the show.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: Hey, do you listen to our podcast on Spotify or itunes or anything?
No, not me neither.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: But I should just let it play. Just so we.
[00:27:31] Speaker A: That's what I was thinking. Like when I'm going to bed. Just play the episode.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, you can even mute it.
Just let it play.
[00:27:39] Speaker A: Yep, perfect.
[00:27:41] Speaker B: Get those streams.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: All right. So what's the ninth topic, Danny?
[00:27:49] Speaker B: Our topic for tonight, Sorry, I gotta get a hand free. Is Cancel Culture Accountability or Mob Justice.
[00:28:00] Speaker A: I.
I giggle because I remember the last Time you told me that.
Boy, what a night.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: It's a, it's a two hander for sure.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Goldslauger.
Make you do some.
[00:28:17] Speaker B: All right, so what are we doing with this? Are we going to go through the questions?
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Okay, so. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And with that I have a question.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Do you think video killed the radio star?
[00:28:34] Speaker B: Yes, I think not an easier question has ever been posed.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: All right, so I got, I got, I got homework for us.
Okay, so based with tonight and what I just said, like I said, you weren't really supposed to answer, but I guess you were. I say we do our research for next episode, find songs that ask questions like that or make statements like that and see if we actually like, believe or disagree with that and why.
So, yes, video did kill a radio star to a degree, but I don't think so. Because car kept radio alive.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: Yes. And I would say, I mean, if we're talking about actual like radio waves, then yeah, that's pretty much dead. But like podcasts have in a way really brought radio back. It's not radio like on the radio, but it's the kind of shit you would have listened to on the radio back in the day.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: Okay, so let me ask you this because I get what you're saying now that we have that technology, but that's more recent and I get that that is in the sense of radio for me. But let's just go back to old school radio.
You're driving around, listen to what? Well, before it was Power 106 is pirate 106.
You're listening to Power 106, Kiss FM, whatever. I don't know what you like the way K Rock, kroc. Okay, you're listening to kroc.
When was the last time you listen to kroc? And I know, you know, of a time, it might not be the last time, but you have a window where you're like, oh, I remember driving to work listening to. I listened to power 106 in the morning. I thought their shows were fun.
Do you have a moment like that?
[00:30:16] Speaker B: I don't know when, but it was whatever. The last time I drove my wife's car was because there's no CD player in there.
So yeah, I mean, I listen to KROC every time I'm in that car. So I mean, a week ago, probably.
[00:30:34] Speaker A: Okay, but that, that's kind of circumstantial because if you have the option, you'd listen to Spotify.
But I know, like in, I know for me in the 90s yes, radio was kind of dead because of CDs, but radio was still holding on like baseball did during COVID It was still holding on enough and then it just died. And then we went digital, including CDs.
But I think before that, like that song was written in 1979.
So I don't think video technically killed Radio Star until maybe the 2000. And I don't think it was video. I think it was other digital things that killed the Radio Star.
[00:31:19] Speaker B: Well, so yes, circumstantially I listen to K Rock still to this day. I'm more of an alt 98.7 guy, if I gotta be honest. But I am, I am relatively curious. Like, it's a good way to discover new music because they're gonna play. I never would listen to by choice, but you're right, it's, it's never, it's always my fourth preference. I would listen to a podcast or a CD or, or Spotify before I would ever turn on rock.
So the last time I remained a devout Loveline listener probably until like 2010.
So that would probably be around the time I stopped like getting excited to go hear what was on K Rock 2009, 2010.
[00:32:12] Speaker A: Okay, yeah, that works. But that's, that's. But that was killed by something else. So I only asked that because the first question is, is streaming killing the magic of the cinema or just, or just making movies more accessible? Streaming, killing the cinema are just allowing us to kind of make things more accessible.
[00:32:34] Speaker B: When we say cinema, we think in theaters.
Yeah, that's kind of the thing. And yes, absolutely. I mean, anyone who's denying that is just ignoring reality. Dude, the Regal over by your old house.
[00:32:50] Speaker A: Gone.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: Empty building.
[00:32:54] Speaker A: It was maybe a church.
[00:32:57] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. It was the only thing in that whole town that people did.
Yeah, there's no bowling alley there.
It's all.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: No. Unless you go to like you're. Now you're in a 10, 15, 20 minute drive to the near cities, but to just kind of go out, grab a bike and do something. Yeah, it was the theater.
Yeah.
[00:33:21] Speaker B: And I like watching a movie at home. I used to love the theater. It's just not something I can do in my current circumstances. But like, it's just changing. And like there's so many things going on today where I just have to accept that like shit's just changing and it's, it's got nothing to do with me. You know what I mean? Like, movie theaters are. Should already be a thing of the past. It's just nostalgia that's keeping them going. It's just people want to go to the theater. That's. Keep it. There's no.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: So here's the thing.
You're totally right. You're totally right in that.
[00:34:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: The only reason now, outside of nostalgia, which I do enjoy when they played the old movies, but like, theaters now, I mean, they already tried to hit the gap with the. We're gonna serve you food while you, you know, while you watch your show. Okay. So we're getting closer. We got the lazy boys. Then the food comes along.
Now they do three screens, you know, so like you have a kind of a fucking 180 degree coverage of a movie.
I think, fuck, you can't even do it there. They should be dead. Because you could probably make good money on a one night show of a UFC fight in that atmosphere. You know what I mean?
[00:34:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: With alcohol, you know, that would be kind of cool. You and the boys, whatever.
But now with Paramount, UFC's got a home, you know, like, so. Yeah, Everybody could watch $5 for a movie. I mean, for a fight. Yeah, I'll pay that.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: So for sure. Yeah.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: It used to be so expensive.
[00:35:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Now I don't know. What, how would you. Okay, so how would you resurrect a theater?
And I'm not talking about like, how would you reuse the building? How could you revive?
You had an unlimited budget.
You have one shot to make this theater successful. What are you doing?
[00:35:20] Speaker B: I think that production studios like Universal and Disney have done the only thing that you can do, which is do not let your movies stream until they're four or five months old. They're in theaters only.
And beyond that, what are you gonna do? Like, you, you as a theater would have to. Oh, well, you know what? With an unlimited budget, I just, I just got the idea. You produce the movies, like Regal or Edwards or AMC produces the movies. And you can only go see these in theaters, but you've gotta get killer directors and writers to make the best movies or else it's just more noise that no one's gonna see because there's just, there's too many movies now.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
So I think someone, I think a company with the best data of that and they, they actually have made shows based on their data that they collect from Habits is Netflix.
Mm.
They're gonna have the best info of like, who's the number one star, who's. Who's. Whose movies are always watched right away, watched more often.
They're gonna do the same with director, actress, leading Actress. They have all that info. They don't need to, like, fucking do the math. They just fucking.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: Type in a formula, you know, that's. That's who. That's. That's who you team up with right there.
[00:37:00] Speaker B: Yep. Or.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: Or if you have your own platform, you know, like Universal or Paramount. Paramount does. Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: But you also have to make them, like, special for the theater.
Like, the sound has to be designed in a way where you're never gonna experience it the same way at home.
[00:37:21] Speaker A: I think that's the best route is the 4D aspect of it.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Did. Did you see the Revenant in theaters?
[00:37:29] Speaker A: No. I saw. So speaking of 4D real quick, I saw that speed train. Bullet train.
[00:37:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: In the theaters. And so like, any time that, like, the train sped up, your seat went back a little.
[00:37:42] Speaker B: No.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. And. And then, like, when there's water, it'll. It'll mist you, you know, but it's like a. Like, so I think that's kind of a cool experience because we wouldn't have seen it had it not been 4D.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Yes, that.
That I could see being more successful.
But again, dude, it still just comes down to, am I going to get dressed, go spend a hundred dollars, find a babysitter, you know, like, my whole life has to be arranged around going out to do this thing, and it ain't gonna be every weekend. You know what I mean? So it's just.
[00:38:26] Speaker A: Okay. So it seems like no matter.
Guy that can do that. Still don't want to.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Still don't want to. You know what I mean? Like, I don't need to technically get a sitter. I go out. We could do it.
I got it on my. My black box already. And. You know what I mean? Like, I'd rather just if. You know, sometimes they'll release it on, like, Peacock when it's in theaters, but only to Peacock take the Peacock route. You know what I mean? Like, I'm still gonna watch it if it's streaming over going in. So I think, honestly, it's. It's. It's killing the cinema. And cinema should have been dead, but what if cinema comes back? Like baseball, new rules.
[00:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: You know?
[00:39:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
I mean, I. The Departed is probably my favorite movie of all time.
I would love to see the Departed in theaters again.
So, like, if that happened, if. If a local theater was playing Mulholland Drive and I got to go see Mulholland Drive in theaters. Yeah, like, I'd probably do that.
But for a movie, I've never seen.
I'm taking a gamble, dude. That's a gamble on 50 bucks for tickets and even more than that for food, you know?
[00:39:45] Speaker A: Okay. So are you a Marvel fan?
[00:39:48] Speaker B: No.
[00:39:49] Speaker A: So I'm not a big Marvel fan. I did like the comics growing up, but I'm not a big Marvel fan.
But I do enjoy watching the Spider mans in movie, in the theaters, over.
Over tv for sure. Yeah.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: I've gone to. I. I saw pretty much everything up until end game.
And after end game, I was like, I, I can't do this anymore. Like, I don't care enough about this world to keep going after. Like, this seems like such a natural place to end it. Like, why are we.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: Well, that's launching all these Spider Man.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: Yeah, the Spider man ones are Spider Man's.
[00:40:25] Speaker A: I could get behind. I can't get behind all of the Avengers, the Captain America's like, oh my God, that Falcon one. Or the new Captain America one. Nah, I'm good, bro. I'm a wait.
I'm gonna wait until it comes so I can stream it. But Spider Man, I'll go see that. Yeah, Miles. Even the Miles Morales one. I like that one. Did you. Okay, so did you. Did I tell you I was watching the Spider Man Spider Noir?
[00:40:49] Speaker B: No. What is that?
[00:40:50] Speaker A: So on prime, there's a new show, Spider Noir.
And I struggled, bro, because it starts off, it's so vibrant now, mind you. They give you the option to watch it in black and white or color. And there's.
And, yeah, and so it's also noir and there's.
There's actually like things on the Internet of how you should watch them. So, like, watch the first two. It's either the first two or three in black and white. And they tell you why. This is why paints now hit five and six with.
With color.
Go back to black and white on 7, and then 8, 9, 10. Color.
That's not it. But it was something like that. Flip, flop, flip flop,
[00:41:40] Speaker B: snip, snap, snip, snap. Yeah, that's.
You have no idea the physical toll that three Vasectomy says on a person.
[00:41:53] Speaker A: I didn't know you knew the rest. I said, I was like, that's not it.
But yeah, dude. So guess who the main actor is.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: I haven't even heard of this.
[00:42:04] Speaker A: We've talked about him a lot on our show. Let's go that route.
[00:42:08] Speaker B: We've talked about this actor.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. A lot of movies are the same role.
Can't really act, but for some reason.
Yeah, but for some reason he's had a lot of hits and we like some of them.
[00:42:22] Speaker B: John Cena.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: No,
[00:42:27] Speaker B: I'm just thinking, who can't act?
[00:42:30] Speaker A: Nicholas Cage, bro. Oh,
[00:42:36] Speaker B: Nicholas Cage.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: You would never think, bro. Spider man, though. You don't think Nicholas Cage. Yes. Spider Man.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he's Spider Man.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: Yeah,
[00:42:47] Speaker B: he's Peter Parker.
[00:42:49] Speaker A: No, he's Ben Reilly.
[00:42:53] Speaker B: Okay, so he's like an old Spider Man.
[00:42:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Have you seen the one with Miles Morales?
[00:43:02] Speaker B: I. I started it and then we banged in the middle and we didn't
[00:43:07] Speaker A: finish it nine months later. Okay, so in it's either one or two, there's other spider mans that come alongside. Even number one, like Gwen comes alongside him. She's like, yeah, I'm from this universe. One of them that ends up joining him is Spider Noir and like, like Miles Morales. Miles Morales is not Peter Parker, but he's a spider man of his universe.
It's like that meets the fat out of shape Spider man from Miles Morales. So it's, it's, it's Dennis, not Dennis Quaid.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: It's.
[00:43:42] Speaker A: It's Nicholas Cage like as he is. He's not in like, you know, like prime shape either, dude. Peak shape. He's on peak shape, bro.
But they, that's part of like the story, you know, so it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: I am very interested in that and I want to watch it all in black and white.
Have you seen Long Legs?
[00:44:04] Speaker A: Long Legs?
[00:44:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: Not in a while. Miami's 411.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: Watch that movie and you'll put to bed. All this about Nicolas Cage not being in a good actor.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: So that's the thing.
He is a good actor. I like him in National.
[00:44:22] Speaker B: When he wants to be.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: I like him. And gone in 60 seconds, dude. I saw Snake Eyes in the theater. Pulp or Face off, one of my favorites.
He was good in Alcatraz even.
It was like after Con Air, even raising Arizona, like one of his first ones, Con Air.
I was like, this is shit. This is garbage. And then he just went downhill from there, bro.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: So you didn't like National Treasure 2?
[00:44:57] Speaker A: I couldn't watch. I thought one was enough. I thought one was enough.
[00:45:00] Speaker B: I've never seen the second one. Have you seen Wild at Heart? Because I've heard that that's like his greatest performance.
It's a, it's a David lynch movie.
[00:45:11] Speaker A: I'm not.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: Okay, I'll watch Wild at Heart, you watch Long Legs.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: Have you seen Wild at Heart?
[00:45:19] Speaker B: No, I want to.
[00:45:21] Speaker A: Have you. Have you seen Con Air?
[00:45:23] Speaker B: No.
[00:45:25] Speaker A: Why don't you watch that one. I'm trying to win you over to this side.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: All right. I haven't seen Alcatraz either.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: It's kind of almost borderline. It's good.
It's. Dude, but he's the same guy in everyone, bro.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Yeah. You know what's nice about it? You know what you're gonna get?
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Like, I'm. I guess I'm not really upset with his acting. I'm upset that he's, like, casted for the same. Like, he's. No matter if he's a detective or criminal, he's always got, like, that. That. Like Nicholas Cage. It's like, well, Christopher Walk not in Long Legs.
[00:45:58] Speaker B: Not.
[00:45:58] Speaker A: All right.
[00:45:59] Speaker B: Long Legs. He is a trans serial killer, and you're gonna love it.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: All right. Oh, wow. Who are we talking about again? Cage.
[00:46:11] Speaker B: Nicholas Cage.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: All right.
That's more doable than Christopher Walkins. That's who I had pictured when you said trans. And should artists who lip sync at live concerts refund tickets?
No.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: What the.
Should they lip sync?
No.
But should they refund the tickets? No.
[00:46:40] Speaker A: So let's say I don't know if you've been to a concert lately, man, but if you're looking to drop that 50, like, the theater you're seeing, like, that's one ticket to watch, like, fucking violinists playing, fucking candlelit concert or some, like, person that might be on the rise. But if you're going to, like, I don't know, what's your favorite group, bro?
[00:47:06] Speaker B: Tiger Army.
[00:47:08] Speaker A: Tiger army is like, dude, we got one tour left in us. 1.
And, like, your lady was like, hey, I know we can't really afford this, but I got you backstage passes. They were like, 900 a piece. But we're going, right? You already done the math.
[00:47:27] Speaker B: Hold on, hold on.
For $900, I could buy Tiger Army.
There's no VIP passes. For $900, I could Buy the trademark.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: All right, who do you want to see? That is, like, huge. Like, would you want to.
[00:47:46] Speaker B: Nine Inch Nails. Nine Inch?
[00:47:48] Speaker A: For reals? Okay.
Nine Inch Nails coming out with, like, it. Let's just say it's an intimate tour where they're only playing a small. Small places. Your lady got you backstage passes now? Nine inch nails are a thousand a piece, dropped 2,000. Not to mention all the food and shit that you got to pay for all the. The other stuff. And if you're getting crazy, I get a hotel room, so we don't even
[00:48:15] Speaker B: need to go that route. The Regular tickets are 4 or $500.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: No, but your wife didn't do that. She wanted to surprise you. She actually was like, look, I've been in. I've been a. I want to make this dude, like, happy again.
So she takes you out. She got the whole night plan, you guys. She already kind of hints.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: So she has a head injury in this scenario. Yeah.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: And she's already hinted that you could dip your finger in the pudding tonight. You know what I'm saying?
[00:48:39] Speaker B: Okay. All right.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: Okay. So she drops.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: Guarantees it's not going to happen.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: Yeah. She drops a thousand a ticket. We're at 2,000.
[00:48:46] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:48:47] Speaker A: They get on stage and they just hit play. And. And they go out and they act like they're playing the music. But the lip sync. The. The. The singer's not lip sync. I mean, he's lip syncing. He's not really singing the songs at you. You're not feeling the full raw emotion. You're getting lip sync. You're getting the cd.
You'd be like, yeah, that was worth a thousand.
[00:49:12] Speaker B: No, not. Not that.
[00:49:14] Speaker A: So should he refund your wife a th.000 or at least 800 of it?
[00:49:21] Speaker B: Here's. Here's what's tough. Here's why I'm having trouble with this.
Kanye west plays a track, and he sings along with it, but he might step away from the microphone for 30 seconds and the track still plays.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: Frankie Valli is borderline not alive anymore. And he's.
[00:49:50] Speaker A: He's a pretty sure he's on your celebrity list.
[00:49:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he's on. He's a fucking corpse. And they're definitely making him lip sync. He's. He doesn't even know where he is. He's just sort of faking his way through the songs. You know that going in.
[00:50:06] Speaker A: That's different.
I. Frankie. That's Frankie.
Okay, hold on.
[00:50:11] Speaker B: Expect a refund in those situations.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: I wouldn't either. This is why. Hold on.
How do you spell.
[00:50:18] Speaker B: I know what I'm going into.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: I got it.
Okay.
Okay.
So if you're like, hey, I'm gonna pay $110.
I looked up his tickets. I'm gonna pay $110. We're gonna see Frankie Valli. He's going lip sync.
First of all, we're probably asking our grandma, our parents, and they're gonna be like, yeah, and you're making a memory with that individual that was walking, carrying an urn. 200.
Yeah. 220 bucks.
You just saved yourself a ticket. 110. You got your earned. You know what I'm saying?
That was worth it. It was a hundred and ten bucks that took me a couple hours to make maybe a day, but fucking a thousand bucks a ticket. Like, some of these prices are going, you know, you want to see Lady Gaga and have like, front row. You want to go see some of these stars now, like, dude, we want to go see a Christian artist who's not big.
Think he does the Fishing Fishes and Lobe song or Manhattan song or whatever. Garden in Manhattan. Anyhow, tickets were starting at 450.
Like, dude, 450.
Serious?
Who you chasing? I couldn't. I couldn't justify it, dude. Tate McCrae tickets were like 550 bucks more.
Bought two of those bitches.
[00:51:55] Speaker B: What?
[00:51:56] Speaker A: I bought two of those.
[00:52:01] Speaker B: What you said about white people.
[00:52:05] Speaker A: Oh, all right, all right, moving on. What's the next question?
[00:52:08] Speaker B: Well, no, no, hold on, hold on. We didn't really solve anything there. In the Nine Inch Nails scenario, I. I would be upset, but like, none of those.
None of those artists I would go see are lip syncing artists. But like Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, you know, they're lip syncing going in is kind of my point.
So. Okay, so with pop and rap, it's just part of the game for sure.
[00:52:38] Speaker A: Now here's the thing.
If there was a clause that was like, hey, price is a thousand dollars a ticket.
And in the small writing, it says, you know, fucking if.
If this concert's a lip sync concert, you get 60% back of your money.
It's not something they advertise, but it's something they should offer that if you actually ask, they'd be like, yeah, and we have to record it. Like, not verbally record it, but there has to be someone from the city at these concerts, make sure they're not lip syncing.
Okay, Something, dude. Something, something.
I don't think $1,000 or some of the tickets that these people are paying for these events to be lip synced, I think there should be some way to say, whoa, I call, I call, I call.
[00:53:34] Speaker B: Did you have a good time?
[00:53:38] Speaker A: Maybe. Okay, if you.
I would love for that question to be asked because I'd say this is how I would respond too. I had about 400 of a good time.
You know what I mean?
Like, I get it, you're famous and there's that aspect of your. A famous person's lip syncing to me.
But a thousand dollars, you know, or even higher. Like, I just. I have it. I'd like. For me, I'd. I settled 600.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: Let me complicate it even further.
Most Lip syncing is done with a live recorded track, so you are still hearing a live version of the song.
[00:54:22] Speaker A: You're right. Okay, let me ask you this. Have you ever been to a live concert where there's not lip syncing?
[00:54:29] Speaker B: I don't think I've ever been to a concert where there was lip syncing.
[00:54:32] Speaker A: Okay. The hypeness that you feel on some of their rawness.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:54:38] Speaker A: You don't. I mean, where you're like, that's not. I'm not. I don't know that parts. That's not on the fucking cd. You know what I mean? Like, you just gave me some raw shit. Or maybe they slow it down. They want to go, like, fucking low with it and fucking get into some emotions.
Could you imagine Prince lip syncing?
[00:54:57] Speaker B: No.
[00:54:58] Speaker A: He'd be so restrained. You know what I'm saying? I would be disappointed.
So, yes. If you went to a Nine Inch Nails concert, I think in that sense of how animated Prince was, that they're the same. I think you'd be disappointed if they just kind of stuck to the.
Hey, this song's 4 minutes and 53 seconds. That's what we're giving you is 4 minutes, 53 seconds. You're like, I want some rawness. Like, bring it, bring it down. Roll into the next one. You know what a great album is.
Bob Seeger and the Silver Bullets live.
[00:55:28] Speaker B: Hell yeah, dude.
[00:55:30] Speaker A: The way. Dude, if.
If my karaoke don't start off with the end of another song, I kind of like. I'm not. I don't know if I'm feeling this. You know what I mean?
This one's from 72. Also. It's about being on the road. It's called Turning the Page.
[00:55:47] Speaker B: You are a karaoke king. I love it.
Two, two. And I know that we're beating this subject to death, but. But two anecdotes about songs being different live.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:02] Speaker B: Do you. Do you know Maneater by Hall and Oats?
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Hall Notes?
[00:56:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:08] Speaker A: Okay, so I know you went and saw them. It blew my mind that you saw them. I was doing your house at the time.
[00:56:14] Speaker B: I was mostly there for Tears for Fears. They were the openers. But hall and Oats, I think you
[00:56:19] Speaker A: told me that I couldn't afford the tickets, even though they were like 30.
I was jealous, bro.
[00:56:25] Speaker B: My sister bought them for me. I don't. I think they were more.
[00:56:29] Speaker A: I remember you telling me there were more, but you often think like older guys. No Tears for Fears. I had their album. Fucking listen to it almost every day, dude.
[00:56:38] Speaker B: I would put them up against any 80s group, any goth group, any new wave group. Like, they are the best to ever do what they did.
[00:56:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, it was good. All right. My bad.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Man eater. I realized you play these songs for 50 years, you get bored with them. They played Maneater completely differently. And I probably won't be able to do it, like, justice.
But, like, you know, the.
[00:57:09] Speaker A: The.
[00:57:10] Speaker B: The. The bass line is like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
[00:57:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:57:16] Speaker B: You know, so they do that, and then the guitar comes out at night. Yes.
[00:57:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: The guitar does, like an upstroke, almost like a reggae song.
[00:57:27] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:57:28] Speaker B: Because, like, that's not how it is on the record, but it's like dink, dink, dink. And it, like, it works enough with the rhythm that it's still the same song, but it's way different live. And I just thought. I always thought that was super cool.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: No, that. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Those moments where you're like, damn, dude, that wasn't planned. Going to see a rap concert that is so, like, orchestrated, you know, up in Smoke had a lot of orchestration. When west side Connection came out, you know, it's. And it's not so much you drive your car out, it's the engage. Like, the. The weird engagement in between where you're trying to, like, prep for the next song. There's just something about, like, rawness of, like, all right, guys, this is what we do. Let's go do it.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:12] Speaker A: And let's just fucking roll with one another. Like, we vibe so well that we could roll with one another, you know, I mean, where. I don't. Sometimes it's just kind of like, ah, it's rough. It's rough. This is. This.
This is good, though, right? We got some good tickets, right?
[00:58:27] Speaker B: You know, and then Nick Cave continuously adds stuff to his songs. So, I mean, some of his songs are 40 years old, and he's still, like, adding new verses to them all the time.
Do you know. You know Scream? You know, the song from all the Scream movies?
You're one microscopic cog. And is the plan devised and directed by Is Red right Hat with the Bell, the really dark song with the bell. Okay, so that's McCave. That's probably his biggest song because of the Scream movies. But he. I mean, that song came out in the 80s, and when we saw him live, he changed one of the verses to say, you see him on the Internet, read his angry little tweets, and it's just like, it's just cool that, like, a song that old is still evolving with time and how things change.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: Let me ask you this. If you could see one. One person. Give me two people. Classic rock era.
I'm thinking, like, 70s, thinking 70s, maybe even 60s, I don't know, but definitely 70s of two people, separate artists you would like to see live.
[00:59:49] Speaker B: They have to be alive still.
[00:59:51] Speaker A: You go three, Give me your top three. No, no, they don't be alive, like, in that time frame. Well, no, even live now. They could be even live now. But even if you're in that time frame. Yeah.
[01:00:02] Speaker B: I mean, first thought is Credence Clearwater Revival and rolling ccr.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: I've. I have seen. I have seen Rolling Stones, but I think they could be a lot better than what I saw. So I would. Yeah, I would say that.
[01:00:22] Speaker A: Well, that's the shitty part about it, is you've seen them.
You've seen videos of them in their prime, and then you get, like, the end of the stick because they're on their last. You know, they got one foot in the fucking grave.
[01:00:36] Speaker B: They're still great. They're still great, for sure. James Brown.
Was it James Brown?
No, no, no. Who was the blind guy?
[01:00:47] Speaker A: Ray Charles. Rachel.
[01:00:48] Speaker B: Ray Charles had just died, so they did, like, three covers of Ray Charles.
[01:00:56] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: And it's like, bro, I want you to play the whole Sticky Fingers album.
Like, don't do three covers of songs you're not even known for. Like, Sticky. Sticky Fingers is one of my favorite albums of all time. Just play it front to back. Like, I'd be fine with that. But, like, they did, like, a couple of new songs and then they did all the covers and then, like, just kind of banged out a few hits, and it's like, I would.
I would prefer, like, they played great. It was that angel.
[01:01:24] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's. That's the shitty part because. Yeah, it's like when you go to a church that has a worship group that is actually, like, decent, and they give you songs that you've never heard before.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: And you're like, I can't. I can't get behind the dude. I'm just. Now I'm just wondering if I like this song and I'm not even, like, into it, because I can't get into it. I don't know what you're singing about yet. Yeah, I don't know if I like it yet. You know?
[01:01:50] Speaker B: You're googling the lyrics to look up the song.
[01:01:55] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[01:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah. So that. That would be my 2. If I could put two groups together.
[01:02:02] Speaker A: Credence, Clear Water and Rolling Stones. Who else?
[01:02:05] Speaker B: Give me one more from the 60s or 70s.
And it has to be like a classic rock.
[01:02:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, you go Cat Stevens or whatever, or Elton John or whatever.
[01:02:16] Speaker B: Oh, you're gonna agree with me on this one, Jim Croce, dude, that was
[01:02:27] Speaker A: one of my number ones, bro. I was like, yeah, so it's. For me, it's Jim Croce, James Taylor, and Frank Sinatra.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: Oh, hell, yeah. Yeah, James. I. James Taylor was an oversight on my part. That would be good.
Dude, I. I sing Time in a bottle to my daughter when I'm putting her to sleep, and it's sad. Dude, do you know what that song's really about?
[01:02:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:56] Speaker B: Fuck.
So just for the listeners, he wrote it when he found out that his wife was pregnant with their son.
And the song Time in a Bottle, it's all. I mean, the chorus is literally. There never seems to be enough time to do the things you want to do once you find them. But I've been around enough to know that you're the one I want to go through time with. And it's all about just making time last forever for his son. And it sounds like a love song. I think that's kind of how it was marketed. But it's about his unborn son, and when his son is two, he dies in a fucking plane crash. And it's like, wow, dude. Like, you wrote a song about not having enough time with your kid, and then you died when he was 2. Like, that's the most bizarre thing.
[01:03:44] Speaker A: Some of the best hits are made off of dead children, you know.
Tears in Heaven.
[01:03:49] Speaker B: Tears in Heaven. I was gonna say
[01:03:54] Speaker A: Clumsy little bastard.
[01:03:56] Speaker B: Clumsy little bastard.
[01:04:05] Speaker A: All right, so, hey, dude, knowing what you know now, was that sacrificial?
[01:04:12] Speaker B: No.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: With all the rumors that they say, like, oh, Kevin Hart's mom died. Yeah, he had a sacrifice. Or Kanye's mom died, and he's talked about, like, that was his sacrifice. Jay Z's sister died or whatever.
[01:04:23] Speaker B: Like.
[01:04:23] Speaker A: Like, a close family member ends up dying in a kind of a brutal way or a way that, you know, just kind of like, okay, you know, you could. You could medical record it away, you know, like. Yeah, I could see that being the same as a cardiac arrest. She died in her sleep, you know, or some. Anyhow, do you think that was a sacrifice? Have you not ever wondered how the. Did you. Even as a kid? I remember thinking he was on, like, a top story next to a window. Like, we all know that's a.
Did he have a bag? Was he. Did he have a grocery bag over his face as well? Like what were you, like, was he un. Fucking supervised?
[01:05:05] Speaker B: He was unsupervised. He was with a nanny and she wasn't watching him.
But two reasons why I would doubt it, specifically for Eric Clapton.
One, he was already really famous when that happened.
[01:05:24] Speaker A: So it wouldn't have more famous. Maybe that's part of it. We'll make you famous.
[01:05:29] Speaker B: Maybe more time to pay it. But I mean, he, he didn't.
He was already a very well known.
I mean he was he Cream. He was in Cream before he was ever sold.
[01:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah, but I felt like there came. There comes a point and we're seeing it more transgressed by those same guys. Like, they're going the distance. But before them, artists kind of had a. Like a phase, kind of a phase out. There were a couple here and there, but not like now we got Rolling Stones and you know what I mean? Like everybody lasting forever. Fuck Aerosmith, you know, everybody's like, fuck you. Like, these guys have transgressed. I mean, there's a lot more of those now.
Where before I felt like, like. Greetings. Clearwater died. When? After the revival.
You know, I mean, so I mean, like,
[01:06:21] Speaker B: it's true. Well, I mean, you speak truth. They only were a band for like four years. They only had like five records.
[01:06:29] Speaker A: Yeah, and I mean, Journey didn't.
[01:06:31] Speaker B: He's been.
[01:06:31] Speaker A: Journey really didn't make it.
[01:06:33] Speaker B: Chicago Dude, 38 special, the Filipino dude who replete. Who replaced Steve Perry in Journey.
[01:06:42] Speaker A: Sounds just like him.
[01:06:44] Speaker B: It does. He's been in the band longer now than Steve Perry ever was.
Second reason why I don't think Eric Clapton did that was because he was one of the only famous people to come out and say like, hey, I got really injured by this COVID vaccine. And I think we should really start to like ask questions about whether we should just be blindly taking this stuff.
And I just don't understand why Would
[01:07:18] Speaker A: you say any different if you pushed him?
Come on.
[01:07:22] Speaker B: But what I'm saying is like, why, why make the sacrifice? Why be in the, you know, the secret group or whatever? And then just when you're. You're 80, you just decide, you know what?
I'm gonna start asking questions.
[01:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it eats at you and you're like, hey, look, there's no reviving this old 80 year old body.
You know what them, what do they got now? I'm ready to die.
[01:07:47] Speaker B: Then why not just say it?
[01:07:49] Speaker A: Who knows? I don't know, bro.
I don't know. Maybe because he's got other loved ones.
Maybe you're probably right, but I don't know anymore. I don't know what to believe.
[01:07:58] Speaker B: Michael Jackson's innocent and I'm sick of this. Listen to me.
He knew. He knew they were trying to kill him for his catalog.
[01:08:09] Speaker A: I agree.
[01:08:11] Speaker B: I think you're the facetious first one. No, no, I'm serious.
I mean, that's what he thought.
[01:08:16] Speaker A: I am too.
No, I, I believe that, like, wholeheartedly, dude. Like, even if he's not dead and it was faked or whatever, but he definitely had beef with the Israelites in the music industry and was calling them out.
[01:08:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:08:34] Speaker A: And then all of a sudden I
[01:08:35] Speaker B: said, apparently he even said, they're gonna kill me and blame it on an overdose.
[01:08:42] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think, and I think Prince was in, in. In something similar.
I think Prince was like, no, I ain't doing, like, I am not following your guys's rules. I'm Prince. I'm Prince.
[01:08:53] Speaker B: God, he was such a badass, right?
[01:08:56] Speaker A: Dude Loved Prince, dude, for four. What was he, like, four foot nothing?
[01:09:00] Speaker B: Five foot, dude, have you seen those AI videos where they br, like have the dead person like go stand by their own headstone and they play Forever Young over it?
[01:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:09:18] Speaker B: Oh, dude, they had one with Prince and he's holding his like one year old son who passed away and they're like, dressed up like angels.
It got me a little bit. Not going to lie.
[01:09:30] Speaker A: Got me a little bit. Not going to lie.
All right, all right, to the next one. I'll ask you, are award shows still relevant or have they lost all credibility?
[01:09:41] Speaker B: I mean, what are we even talking about, dude? Who gives a. About award shows, right? Dude, it's elitist, horseshit.
[01:09:50] Speaker A: It's, it's like, I don't know, dude. Like, I see, I, I see all the advertisements for like, when the Oscars and Grammys and I'm just like, who gives it?
How about this? I wait until tomorrow and I Google it. Got best movie of the year, right?
Done.
[01:10:08] Speaker B: You know the people who, like, they like to watch the red carpet and see the outfits and the jokes and the people who are there.
It's like, are you not creating something in your own life and you have. Do you have to, like, farm out your, your excellence to, like, celebrities?
I don't know. Maybe I'm the only.
[01:10:34] Speaker A: That's how I feel about Kevin Hart's roast.
[01:10:37] Speaker B: I liked the roast.
[01:10:38] Speaker A: I thought it was garbage, bro.
I thought there were Funny moments, sure. But I thought overall it sucked.
[01:10:50] Speaker B: I wish they would stop putting non comedians on roasts. I think you could really maximize the funny by only putting comedians on. Especially when it's a comedian and all of his friends should be comedians.
But that being said, I mean every person made me laugh at least once.
Most of them I thought were really good.
But I also just like, I like kill Tony too.
[01:11:21] Speaker A: Don't you?
[01:11:24] Speaker B: I watched it for a little while and then I just, I realized one day, like best case scenario, I'm gonna hear 60 seconds of good stand up and that's it.
But like I'm not entertained by someone bombing for 60 seconds.
[01:11:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:11:45] Speaker B: And making fun of them afterward is kind of funny, but not really.
Like they just had a horrific 60 seconds and now you're just making fun of it. Like I don't know, the whole thing just.
[01:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:11:58] Speaker B: It doesn't bother me that it's mean spirited. It's just not entertaining to me.
[01:12:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:12:05] Speaker B: Cliff, I like, I like, I thought
[01:12:08] Speaker A: he was actually pretty funny on Hilarious.
Yeah, there were a couple funny. That's what I'm saying. I thought there were funny moments. But I think like, I think certain things, like his ending was horrific. His comment, his comebacks were horrific.
It was, they were just. Poor dude. And I was just kind of like ah.
And he just like thought so highly of himself and I was like, ah, like dude, you were just funnier before, like when you could relate, when you were relatable.
[01:12:42] Speaker B: The Rock was funnier than him.
[01:12:45] Speaker A: He was, he was. Especially with the wife thing. You know who I think does well at shows?
What were you gonna say? Were you gonna say Cat Williams?
[01:12:58] Speaker B: Well, Cat Williams was hilarious. But I was gonna say calling out the sponsors is just batshit.
[01:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:13:06] Speaker B: In the middle of a stand up set, like it just ruins the momentum.
[01:13:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Cuz dude, he literally goes from like, okay, this is funny to like I'm so badass, I'm gonna pause in front of everybody. It was just like, yeah, dude, maybe just throw up their advertisement at the end of the show, you know?
[01:13:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:13:25] Speaker A: Or say thank you at the very end to your sponsors. I don't know. Just thought it was pointless.
I think the last great show I saw was who's the dude that does the office in uk?
[01:13:41] Speaker B: Ricky Gervais.
[01:13:43] Speaker A: Ricky Gervais was probably the best one I saw where he was just like, nobody gives a fuck about your political views. Come up here, accept your reward, go sit down.
[01:13:53] Speaker B: And then what do they do?
They still.
It was crazy.
Yeah.
[01:14:01] Speaker A: That was this next one, I think, is really a cool question. What's up?
[01:14:05] Speaker B: I was just gonna say my favorite joke, probably from the roast, was when Shane Gillis said that Cheryl Underwood's.
Cheryl Underwood's husband killed himself. So I guess black does crack if it's married to Cheryl Underwood.
[01:14:24] Speaker A: She is such a good sport.
[01:14:26] Speaker B: She was great, dude. She went on all the podcasts after and, like, defended good comedy.
[01:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah, she. She was a great sport because she was everyone's punching bag from the donkey from Shrek to, like.
Like, dude, they were so hard on Draymond Green. Like, they were so hard on her, bro. I was like, holy crap, dude.
All right, let me ask you this question. I thought this was a good one.
Do reboots and remakes ruin the originals or keep stories alive for new audiences?
[01:15:14] Speaker B: I'd have to take it on a case by case basis.
[01:15:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:15:22] Speaker B: Because I've liked some reboots.
Some of them have definitely ruined franchises.
I think it's weird when, like, something has reached its natural conclusion and then you just oddly resurrected 30 years later and completely erase that original ending and then create all new content. It just kind of takes the steam out of, like, what the original intention was supposed to be.
Let's see. See, what was the question exactly?
[01:16:13] Speaker A: Do they ruin the originals?
[01:16:15] Speaker B: Ruin the originals? No, they don't ruin the originals. But it is weird to know that, like.
[01:16:24] Speaker A: Or, well, the. The alternative is. Or do they keep the story alive for the new generation?
[01:16:29] Speaker B: Sometimes they do that. Sometimes they do that. I think the Ghostbusters reboot was actually not terrible. The sequel sucked, but the first one was kind of good.
And.
I could probably do without the Jurassic World movies.
The Twin Peaks reboot was all right, you know, it would. I would just sort of have to take it, like, case by case, you know?
[01:17:03] Speaker A: Okay, so let's. Let's dig deeper into that. What. What about these remakes that you did, like, do they all have in common versus the ones that you don't like? Because I have a theory on it.
My theory is I like when they almost create a new storyline, but the same history. So let's take Ghostbusters. Like, they.
They played it as Ghostbusters were something from the 80s, you know, I mean, like, we're not trying to be them. We're just trying to meet the need that they met.
The ones that I tend to like, Like, I liked.
Damn. I had it in my head, too.
I like when they, like Fall Guy, for instance. Fall Guy wasn't a horrible movie.
It was a remake of The Fall Guy show from the 80s, but it wasn't horrible.
They had. But they adapted. They made him the fall guy. Like, they didn't refer to the old fall guy of the 80s. They just. This was fall guy, dude. Like, the generations are going to be blown away when they, like, realize that fall guy came out. They. Oh, fuck. That was based on that. I would have never known. It's gonna be one of those fun facts.
[01:18:23] Speaker B: Yeah, there's definitely examples of, like, shit media from the 80s being rebooted into something that's actually kind of good. I'm pulling up, like, famous reboots just because I'm having trouble remembering.
[01:18:41] Speaker A: Well, my. My theory is that, like, they are not necessarily grabbing the torch, like, you know, the passing of the torch.
It's more or less like they're paying homage to.
[01:18:58] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:18:59] Speaker A: You know what I mean? And. And they're not trying to be it, but they're trying to respect the parameters in which the originals operated in, but make it their own, you know? Yeah, the new Anaconda wasn't bad.
[01:19:12] Speaker B: Oh, no, that. That was great because it acknowledged, like, what was going on, you know, where it's, like, still living in the world of that movie. But, like, I think it's best if it's, like, a new story in the same universe so you're not, like, trying to continue it directly.
[01:19:34] Speaker A: Well, you see them. You see, like, Jurassic park and Jurassic World, you start to see loopholes of, well, if it was that easy, why didn't that happen sooner? You know, or.
So I could totally see that we're in a different Spider Man. Perfect example. So many different universes.
Well, it's a new hole. It's a whole new story. Hold there's.
We can have different loopholes.
[01:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:59] Speaker A: We could do different things that wouldn't make sense if we were in that universe. Yeah, yeah, I get that.
[01:20:07] Speaker B: And then, like, the Twin Peaks reboot was cool.
[01:20:11] Speaker A: What is Twin Peaks?
[01:20:13] Speaker B: So in the 80s and 90s, it was a.
I guess, kind of a detective story. It's kind of hard to pin it to one thing, but it was about an FBI agent who goes to a small town in Washington to investigate the murder of a teenage girl.
[01:20:31] Speaker A: Oh, I did see that.
[01:20:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:33] Speaker A: It's like it's. Yeah, it was a miniseries.
[01:20:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. No, it was two seasons and then they did.
[01:20:40] Speaker A: But weren't they different people in different. In both seasons.
[01:20:45] Speaker B: No, it was all the same story.
[01:20:47] Speaker A: I'm thinking of something else.
[01:20:48] Speaker B: Yeah, this was the. The David lynch show.
And then he did A movie that was like a prequel to it in the 90s that was like her leading up to the murder.
And then in like 2017 they did a reboot of the show to like. Because they got canceled. So they didn't really end anything.
But he basically just made a completely different show. Like they continued it, but they didn't close like a lot of the loops that the old one left open. And the tone is like way darker and more serious and everything. So it was like a completely different kind of media.
Barely even like closed up the loops of the original one.
So that was kind of cool because it felt like something different. It wasn't something you would compare.
You know, it kind of became like apples and oranges.
[01:21:40] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. And that's what I could get behind is when the remake is not trying to be the original. When they're not trying to be the original, I guess is where I'm at.
[01:21:52] Speaker B: I think the new Twilight Zone was kind of good. I didn't watch all of it, but that's the kind of thing that you can reboot because.
[01:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I watched it. I watched it like the first season.
[01:22:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it's one off stories.
It's a narrator. You don't have to be Rod Serling. You don't have to redo all of the old sketches. You know, like you can just do whatever you want, you know, so that works.
[01:22:20] Speaker A: I think they need to do that with more candid shows.
Like yours is. Kind of falls in that category of like we don't have a formula except for we show you stories. Impractical jokers. We don't have a formula, but yet we pull pranks. That's like our thing.
If they got four new guys licensed it like hey, you guys are our replacements. But we get a cut. We're pyramiding this now. You know what I mean? Like we're the originals. We'll always get a cut of whoever one of the four guys is.
I think they should reboot that because I think it works better when they're not famous. Once you start knowing these guys faces, some people play along just because they know they're. They're in the bit now. They've realized, oh shit, this is Murray.
But yeah, I think, I think shows like that, that don't have like story lines.
Story lines can be rebooted easily. I thought Fear Factor actually was. Was better.
[01:23:24] Speaker B: I like what they did with that. I didn't.
[01:23:27] Speaker A: I like Joe Rogan better as a host.
[01:23:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz he didn't cry.
[01:23:34] Speaker A: Well, just he was More raw with it. When he. He would almost make you. He would almost be commentating negatively also, like, oh, oh, damn, that one's in her ear. You know what I mean?
And so. But I like the actual aspect of they live in a house.
They. They're. They're there the whole season.
That was one thing that. It was kind of like cop. You could jump in anytime and watch Fear Factor because there's no storyline. Yeah. You're not committed to it, you know, now you're committed to it because you're like, fuck, who got eliminated last week? You know? Or last episode if you skip one, you know.
[01:24:11] Speaker B: Well, there's one thing that we haven't mentioned that is the most obvious, and I can't believe we didn't think of it.
The American Office is a reboot and it's.
[01:24:25] Speaker A: I think. I think you put it on. On the map.
[01:24:28] Speaker B: It's way better than the original. I know that that's not cool to say.
You have to like the British one because that's, like, cooler and drier and. And, you know, more cringe.
[01:24:40] Speaker A: But there's a reason we know of the British one.
[01:24:43] Speaker B: Yeah, there's only one reason we know of the British.
Yeah.
[01:24:49] Speaker A: We're not the only ones in that damn boat, dude. Like. Yeah, nobody knew of the British one until the American one made it.
So.
[01:24:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:24:57] Speaker A: And then you watch the British one and there are some differences.
You know, I'm sure the British are like, no, the British one's better.
That's because you don't live in America.
[01:25:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, everything where you are, it's cloudy and the food is bland.
[01:25:18] Speaker A: So like, just. Even their way of running a space, it's kind of like. Yeah, I don't get that joke because I don't speak that slang, you know?
[01:25:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Ricky Gervais said the only advice that he gave to Greg Daniels when he was rebooting it for American television was he said, you have to make Michael Scott kind of good at his job, because in America, you wouldn't keep your job if you were bad at it. But in. In the UK, you could kind of just keep your job for 10 years, even if you weren't really that good at it. So, like, you have to show glimpses of Michael Scott actually being good sometimes at what he does.
[01:26:00] Speaker A: That makes sense. Yeah, that really does.
I trip out that Mindy and Ryan are part of, like, the producing team.
[01:26:13] Speaker B: Yeah, they were writers. Yeah.
[01:26:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:26:16] Speaker B: And Toby and Oscar.
[01:26:19] Speaker A: I thought that was awesome.
[01:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah. I think it's. I think it's Cool. Those always ended up being the best characters because I think when you're writing the character, you're thinking so much about the, the motivations and like the backstory of this person. Like, you just know it more intimately than just an actor, you know?
[01:26:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I get that. I can see that.
I can see that. But I don't know, man. I mean, some of the best lines to me come from not Phyllis. Who's the fat guy? Kevin.
[01:27:02] Speaker B: Kevin.
[01:27:03] Speaker A: Kevin.
Steve Carell.
[01:27:05] Speaker B: Sure.
[01:27:06] Speaker A: And of course Dwight.
[01:27:09] Speaker B: Sure.
But I think some of the more interesting characters were like, Ryan. Ryan had a crazy arc on that show, you know, like he's not in it a whole lot because he was a writer and they had to kind of keep him out of like half the season.
[01:27:23] Speaker A: I'm not gonna lie that his character kind of pissed me off.
[01:27:26] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. But what a crazy arc he had. Like, he's not a likable guy, but like an interesting development.
[01:27:36] Speaker A: Hey, did you, did you see Rainn Wilson's follow up show?
It was like Private Dick or Dick or something like that. He was a private eye.
It only went a year. I actually liked it.
[01:27:48] Speaker B: I never even heard of it.
Yeah, there must have been a marketing problem.
[01:27:55] Speaker A: I don't think it got the return like it. It was hoping.
[01:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:27:59] Speaker A: I thought it was unique though. Like he lived with a.
He was a detective, really smart and he lived with a gay, like
[01:28:10] Speaker B: not
[01:28:10] Speaker A: orphan, but like you know, 18 year old, fresh on their feet gay kid that knew the city well, you know what I mean? Like, and so I don't know. And he lived like on the river in some beat up ass like boathouse.
It's cool though.
[01:28:27] Speaker B: Never even liked it. Heard of it. I bet if more people had heard of it, it would have done a lot better.
[01:28:34] Speaker A: If you remember to look for it. You should watch it.
[01:28:37] Speaker B: Okay.
Yeah, I might.
[01:28:41] Speaker A: All right, I'll probably remind you.
Should.
Okay. Is reality TV secretly more honest than scripted drama?
[01:28:58] Speaker B: Reality TV is scripted drama.
[01:29:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say it's. It's definitely more honest than scripted drama just by the simple fact that it's reality tv.
[01:29:11] Speaker B: It is. But
[01:29:14] Speaker A: cameras, well, you'll see glimpses of people more than a scripted script. You only see what they tell you and that's not really honest.
[01:29:22] Speaker B: Sure.
Yeah. But when you find out like behind the scenes, like how much the producers are pulling the strings and everything, you start to realize like, oh, these people never had a choice of any of this. Like they were, they were predestined to make the mistakes they make because of what the producers are doing.
And then this. I heard this podcast my wife was listening to right before we jumped on the call here. They were talking about on reality shows, what the camera. Just the presence of the camera does, and it makes you. It heightens everything.
So if you get mad, you get a little bit more mad because there's a camera.
You get sad, you get, like, overly emotional because there's a camera there, you know?
Can you hear me?
[01:30:20] Speaker A: I'm sure that sounded great.
I'm sure I didn't hear to the whole time you were chop, chop, chops. But I'm sure on the podcast it's gonna sound great.
[01:30:32] Speaker B: I thought I was gonna win a Peabody Award for that speech.
Now, the long and short of it is that the camera accentuates everything.
So if you're mad, you're gonna act a little bit more mad for the camera, for sure. If you're sad, you might actually cry for the camera. If you're upset, you might really make a big thing.
[01:30:53] Speaker A: I think everything's like. Like that. That goes on film, though.
[01:30:56] Speaker B: Sure.
[01:30:56] Speaker A: Like.
Like, you know, I think sometimes I don't think we. We accentuate enough or flex enough on. On. On that type of stuff.
Like, for instance, you walk outside to stand in proper posture. That looks decent.
Feels like I'm really putting in some work to keep my shoulders back in, my chin up. And I feel like what I'm walking around as looks like a fucking chicken.
But when you look in the mirror, you're like, oh, dude. Like, that actually looks really normal. I see a lot of people like this. It's fucking. It's a normal posture.
I think we also do that with emotions, I guess, to transition from that phase real quick. I felt like today, Miami, like. Like sideswipe my car, bro.
[01:31:46] Speaker B: What?
[01:31:47] Speaker A: So I, you know, I've been thinking about this. So I'm just gonna get it out. I'm just gonna get it out. All right.
[01:31:52] Speaker B: On the Patreon exclusive.
Yeah.
[01:31:56] Speaker A: You know what I mean? You know what? Let's hold off on this story. Actually.
[01:31:58] Speaker B: No,
[01:32:01] Speaker A: she just called me this afternoon. Now it is Wednesday, and I last physically saw her Friday.
So Friday comes around, I come home, I go to her place, I pack up. She worked late, come back home, get my little one, and we tried connecting.
I called her, no answer. And then she called back, but I was, like, hanging out with the kids at that time. And then she sent a picture of her and her girlfriend out.
She tries to call again later.
I ignore it because I'm still hanging out with the kids.
So then we text Saturday, and she's like, oh, like, I'm painting. And she's not really responding to my text because she's painting. Totally understandable. Again, don't care.
Sunday comes around. We talked on the phone a couple times.
And then Monday comes around. We talked on the phone a couple times.
Tuesday.
Yesterday I get home, we're talking on the phone like, hey, my mom's calling. Take my mom's call. Hey, mom, my boss is calling. So then now I'm in work mode again. I'm just exhausted, mind you.
I'm doing the business development stuff, but I still have a division of superintendent to run, so I still have that project with the social media, the business development, the other stuff, attending committee meetings, so. But I still have to superintend a project, you know, I mean, that's what makes the money right now.
So yesterday I was like, hey, I'll call you back. My mom's calling. Well, then boss called.
And then after that, I just sent her a text like, hey, I don't want to go to church group tonight. I'm exhausted. Like, I'm so worn out mentally.
She's like, no worries. Get some rest, all right? I'm thinking, like, she knows I'm gonna go get, like, kick back Today comes around. I text her three times. No response. Like, hey, good morning. Wait a couple hours. Hey, you make it to work? Wait, wait a minute. Like, yeah, I see me to work. I hope you're doing good. Love you. You know, and then, like, I call about an hour later, and I'm like, all right. Like, that's what we doing, you know? But I didn't say, like, that.
I didn't say, like, that. I had to be more poised than that. So I was like, hey, I just want to, you know, I see that you were on.
Just wonder if everything's okay. You haven't returned my text, but I saw that you were on Instagram 48 minutes ago, so I hope you're cool. I don't know what's going on ever. It is. We can talk about tomorrow.
Kind of leave that message.
Sends me a screenshot of that message. So then I'm like, so anyhow, fast forward. We start talking after work. She's crying. Like, you've just. You've been distant. You're pulling away. Oh, my God.
Yeah, dude. So I'm like, so I have to go through that spiel? I started. I started a new project. Hasn't been like that last five weeks. Like, fuck, dude, like, I'm getting back up at 3:30 again. Like, I didn't guide my way into this or keep my 3:30 wake up call.
I went to business development mode. You know, I could wake up at five now and still make all these meetings because Pistons developers don't operate at 5 in the morning. They operated 7 6. You know, so I'm trying. And she's like, yeah, well, we both have things going on. I'm like, no, it's not the same. Don't try and act like it's the same.
And she just, like, she had a code of baby, which means a baby died and she had to like, resuscitate.
[01:35:43] Speaker B: Oh my God.
[01:35:44] Speaker A: She's like, you know, two weeks ago I had a code of baby. I'm like, I'm not saying your job's any less.
I'm not saying that. What? You. You don't do a lot of stuff.
I said, you have days like that. All I'm saying is right now I'm trying to play two to three different roles within my company that I wasn't normally playing.
And I'm exhausted. You have weeks where you get to do whatever the fuck you want.
I go from your house to being a dad, being a boyfriend to being a dad. I'm like, so I don't tell you. And then she went on some other tangent and she was like, you know, when was the last time I've seen your kids? I haven't seen them in so long. And you used to come by, you're not the same. And I was like, whoa. First of all, that was a mutual agreement we had that we were gonna make Thursday's game night at my house.
And you haven't. I didn't bring it up. Cuz I know you still love me. It doesn't change who you are. Your intentions weren't being like, fuck him. Your intentions were like, dude, I'm tired. Like, I just got off work. Whatever, I get it.
I said, but I've invited you twice. One night you retired, the other night you had to get your lashes done. So don't say, don't put this on me like it's me.
And she's like, the way you talk to me. And I'm like, talk with strictly facts.
I'm sorry that if you don't like that, but if you're. If I'm seeing it, I'm gonna call. Call it. I'm sorry.
Yeah, that part didn't go as like that.
It was more tactical. You know, it was like, hey, look, Speak on facts. I don't want to seem like I talked down to her and that's how it sounds. She was definitely crying and I was like, look, I just state facts and I'm not going to let you put something on me. You've listed four things. Two of them were mutual agreements and it's in both of our courts. It's not just mine, but you come off really attacking.
And I was like, how I see you. The reason I didn't bring up these other things is because I love you. Like, and it's not that, like, I don't think you love me.
Things happen. So it's like, what, what the hell? I was like, I was at your house all last week. Sunday I come, Friday, I come home, you want to ask me to come over and help you remove barn doors?
I was just here for seven fucking days.
Why don't we remove barn doors then?
You know, I mean, I was like, I'm not understanding. So we talked about it and then all of a sudden I thought we was good. And then hour and one minute mark, I looked at the phone, we're back on it again. Everything's coming back up. She's just crying and I'm like, I don't know what's going on. This. I actually said, I don't know. I'm. I'm probably just as confused as you are right now, you know, she's like, I'm so confused. I'm like, I've. I think I'm in the boat with you on that one.
I said, we talked about this. I thought we addressed it.
And no shit, hour later we are, we have come full circle to being right back on it again.
I was like, I've already apologized for my part. I've already addressed the other things.
I don't know what else there is to talk about. I said, but what I don't want to do is have dead air where we just sit here in silence and listen to each other breathe. I'm not that guy. I call people when I'm on the road, but when I get home, I don't call people no more.
When I get to work, I don't try and call people. When I get to my destination, I'll call people.
I said, I'm at your house seven days a week. When was the last time you saw me call my kids? While I was at your house.
But yet when I'm at my kids house, how many times do I call you? Least every day.
So don't sit here and say that. You're not a priority. Like, get out of here. Like, it's not.
That's how I might text my kids, but I don't need to sit there and have a full. How was your day? Okay, so what happened there? That's a little weird. It's a little invasive. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, bro, but I was so annoyed with it, dude. But then she, like, sent me a long text apologizing and kind of owning her. I'm like, that's cool. I can respect that.
Because I was like, man, you just come to the table with just accusations and, like, I'm coming to table solutions here.
What's your solution?
[01:40:00] Speaker B: That's your problem.
[01:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know.
[01:40:05] Speaker B: They want solutions. They want to fight. They want to fight and want to cry.
[01:40:10] Speaker A: That's what I told her. I said, you got done crying. You're at work. How about we talk about this some other time? Because, like, this looks weird. People are walking your office. They've already done it six times.
You're crying and on the phone.
[01:40:23] Speaker B: Babies are dying.
[01:40:24] Speaker A: They know you're on the phone. They know you're on the phone. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Isn't there a baby dying somewhere?
[01:40:31] Speaker B: Could there be?
[01:40:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:40:36] Speaker B: Now, hold on. I thought you met her when you got a colonoscopy.
[01:40:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's a surgery center, so it does a bunch of different stuff, you know, circumcisions, colonoscopies.
[01:40:48] Speaker B: Why was circumcisions first?
Why did you say circumcision first?
[01:40:54] Speaker A: Because the day I went for my colonoscopy, the fucking. I'm thinking, like, honestly, I'm gonna go into, like, an empty place. One, two, maybe. Maybe two. Maybe two patients in the lobby. It's a fucking weekday at 8am Maybe two people in the lobby. No, bro, there was, like, fucking 40 people in this fucking lobby, half of them with kids. And I'm like, what do you. What? Why? Why so many babies?
And the lady was like, it's Tuesday. It's the day our doctor that does circumcisions is in.
So I was like, holy. It was just a lot of fucking babies, bro.
People next to me in the hospital, when they're born, no, eight days later, that's when the blood Carterizes.
[01:41:41] Speaker B: Huh?
[01:41:43] Speaker A: What? What makes the blood cauterize? It takes place on the eighth day, which is, again, mind blowing, because that's when God told Abraham to circumcise his children were on the eighth day.
[01:41:56] Speaker B: You know what else cool about the eighth day. To get you totally off topic, it's Sunday.
[01:42:06] Speaker A: What the fuck are you saying?
[01:42:08] Speaker B: The eighth day is Sunday.
[01:42:11] Speaker A: Okay. No, you're right. Because of where the days derived from. Yeah, like, the actual names of the days.
So same with, like, the month. The months. Like, October being 10.
Oct is 8. It should have been the eighth month. So what's going on?
Yeah, same with September, November, December, but whatever.
[01:42:34] Speaker B: But, like, Saturday was the Sabbath because it was the seventh day.
It was the. The. The last day of creation.
So the eighth day is Sunday, when the resurrection.
[01:42:46] Speaker A: Was that the first day?
[01:42:47] Speaker B: No, the Sunday was the first day.
[01:42:50] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying.
[01:42:51] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's also the eighth day.
[01:42:54] Speaker A: Okay, so it's not just the eighth day. We're missing, like.
[01:42:56] Speaker B: Oh, no, no, no, no.
[01:42:58] Speaker A: Jub Juber day.
[01:42:59] Speaker B: No, no, I guess I. I didn't. I didn't say it well. But if Saturday is the seventh day, then any reference to. To the eighth day, like, with circumcision, is. Is pointing toward Sunday being, like, a new creation day.
[01:43:14] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it makes sense.
[01:43:16] Speaker B: Interesting.
I'm sorry I sidetracked you. So, wait, wait. Did you say she sideswiped your car, or were you speaking metaphorically?
[01:43:25] Speaker A: That was a metaphor? Yeah. Like, dude, it was out of the blue. I'm like, all of a sudden be
[01:43:31] Speaker B: on the phone to you and, like, pull up to your place, and they'll be like, you know what? I can't even talk to you.
[01:43:35] Speaker A: It's like, threw up on me when I was. I'm, like, in love mode. Like, what's up, babe?
I'm like, oh, we're doing this. Like, wow.
I was. Yeah, I was not ready for that.
All right, all right, moving on.
Should artists be judged for their personal lives as much as their work? No, no, I agree.
Should artists conduct themselves in a certain manner?
[01:44:03] Speaker B: I mean.
Sure do.
[01:44:05] Speaker A: Let me ask you this. Do artists carry a influencing weight on their audience that they should be more cautious of?
[01:44:16] Speaker B: Yes.
Maybe now more than ever. But I don't know if it should look.
[01:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Borderlines on. On great. How you want to be and how you should be.
[01:44:31] Speaker B: Great artists are pedophiles.
If it takes a couple of kids to get Thriller, are we really gonna deprive the world of this thing if a couple girls have to get jerked off in front of to have the great feed on even the greatest comedian of all time?
I. You know, these are sacrifices.
[01:44:59] Speaker A: You're like, if a couple girls have to get peed on to get some good love Songs, Right.
Then, then, then so be it.
[01:45:06] Speaker B: Right?
[01:45:07] Speaker A: I mean, it's a good argument. It's a good argument.
I'm gonna refer. Dude, I'm gonna refer back to Uncle Ben, bro.
[01:45:17] Speaker B: Uncle Ben the rice.
[01:45:19] Speaker A: With great power comes great responsibility.
[01:45:23] Speaker B: That's true, that's true. But I think social media and media in general have given artists power that they didn't have before.
Dude, read, read about any famous painter. They were penniless and alone their whole fucking life and nobody cared what they thought, what they did, nothing. And they're only famous now.
Now you, you have one good song and everyone's up in your life knowing everything about you. You know, it just wasn't like that before.
[01:45:53] Speaker A: No, that's totally right.
That's. I agree with that. And I think that's part of why they make so much.
[01:46:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:46:00] Speaker A: Because if we could pay the influencers the most and dictate the influencers, we dictate the crowd.
And I think that was something realized because back then it was, it was, it was shameful. To be of nobility.
Is it nobility? Was that the word? Yeah, to be of nobility and to be a poet, you know?
[01:46:23] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like a low class job.
[01:46:26] Speaker A: It very much was. Where now it's, it's been flipped on its head and everybody wants to say, look at me. So they could kind of be in the same boat.
However, I don't look at it more as artist.
Let's say it like this because I think of an artist, I don't think of.
And I know most people that are actors and celebrities are going to get pissed off of this. I don't think artists are actor or artists. Sorry, Actors are artists.
Okay.
[01:46:55] Speaker B: Because they're working, I think recreated material, basically.
[01:47:00] Speaker A: I think creating something out of nothing is what makes you an artist. You know, creating a musical, you know, or you know, some type of symphony or something, you got your own little set that is only yours. You take clay and you're making some shit that people are like, damn, I wish I had that my house.
You make a painting that to me is like artist, celebrity.
However, another one that I think is important is where I think this question, I guess should be directed is athletes.
I think athletes and celebrities. I think artists should not be muted.
I think real artists should not be muted. That's, that's my final answer. But I think celebrities and act and sport athletes should, should be, should have a standard. Should have a standard because they're, they're only there because they're good at mimicking other, other people. They're good at pretending to be something they're not.
And a lot of people can do that. It's just.
You got lucky. Yeah. That they didn't meet Joe Schmo behind the tractor in Alabama. You know what I'm saying?
[01:48:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:48:20] Speaker A: So, yeah, that's. That's kind of my thought on it. But as far as artists, I don't think they should be limited because they. They're creating these things from how they. How they view life.
[01:48:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I would agree.
Like, if we're talking about a standup comedian making a joke that doesn't land and people get offended by it or something,
[01:48:47] Speaker A: that's retarded because that's his job.
[01:48:49] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. If we're talking about, like, you know, this singer is known for kind of taking groupies in the bathroom and having sex with them, and he's not really good about making sure that they're 18.
That's kind of different. He doesn't have to do that to be a great singer. You know what I mean?
[01:49:13] Speaker A: But that's. That again, that. That again, you're separating the artist from the. You know what I'm saying? Saying, like.
[01:49:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't.
[01:49:18] Speaker A: One's an artist.
[01:49:19] Speaker B: Yeah, he.
[01:49:20] Speaker A: He's part of the music making process that nobody else thought of. Nobody else had that rift. You know what I mean? No one else had that, like, that solo. The actor, you know, he's. He's simply acting like the fireman that's really a fireman.
I don't know.
[01:49:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:41] Speaker A: So I think artists should not be, like, muted in any way, because that's how we get certain movements and certain things. As far as celebrities and basketball players, you guys are a dime a dozen, honestly.
[01:49:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:49:56] Speaker A: You know, we might not see a great, like LeBron James for playing for hundreds of millions, but we'll get a LeBron James that makes a good 300 grand a year. You know, I mean, like,
[01:50:10] Speaker B: let me. Let me ask you this.
So Anthony Rendone, former baseball player, when he was on the Angels, he got caught on camera.
I'll describe it the best I can. It would. It would probably be better if you could see it, because you could see how not a big deal it was. But he was on, like, the lower level beneath, like, some seats and a railing, and there was a fan over the railing who called him a bitch.
And so he, like, stepped up to the railing and was like, is that the guy who called me a bitch? And his friend, like, brings the guy over to him and he grabs the guy by the Shirt and he like pulls him down and he's like saying something to him like, don't call me a bitch, don't call me a bitch. And then he like takes a swipe at him. Like he didn't really try to hit him, but he kind of acted like he might hit him. But the guy obviously got out of the way before and then he just walks away.
But this got caught on camera and he got suspended for five games.
[01:51:18] Speaker A: And I just, I think, I think that's right.
[01:51:21] Speaker B: I don't think that's right, dude. The dude calls you a for sure dude. You're making bond at all.
[01:51:26] Speaker A: You're making, you're making millions to do what you love. You don't work a hard day in your life. You have more than most Americans. You can't take someone calling you a.
Playing a, a man's. Man's game.
Baseball is not considered a woman's game. There's no crying in baseball and you know, like basketball.
Yeah. I think if men are playing on the court, in the field, on the rink, you should be able to take that. I'm sure your wife has called you worse.
[01:51:58] Speaker B: You, you say what everyone said about it, but at the time I was very upset that that happened to him. I, I felt like he had been wronged.
[01:52:09] Speaker A: But you're right for sure, because we're in a softer generation, you know what I mean? Like back in the 90s, maybe that would have flew for sure.
[01:52:17] Speaker B: They would have thrown him a parade. In the 90s they would have given.
[01:52:21] Speaker A: Now we're in this, this the soft NBA. Soft, soft, you know, generation.
But it doesn't change the fact that who cares if in the 90s it was flyable? Yeah, there's other people watching your whole engagement.
You know what I mean? Like, you can literally take hope from someone that's looking at you and fucking throw it down the drain. Yeah, I mean, yeah, as a kid you look up to these athletes, you know what I mean? And I don't care what Charles Barkley says, you know, he's not a role model that you are. Yeah, unfortunately you have. Like, you've been put in that position. You're so good at what you do, why can't you discipline yourself? Like you've disciplined your body to play basketball, baseball, whatever. You, you had discipline to get in where you're at in this, this game.
[01:53:10] Speaker B: But why do we have to say suffer?
Why do we have to lose our best player for five games because he said something or he tried to slap someone?
[01:53:22] Speaker A: Cuz the It. It was. It was on conduct unbecoming.
[01:53:26] Speaker B: He didn't lose any pay.
He still made 80.
[01:53:29] Speaker A: It doesn't matter if he lost pay. It's not about the pay. You're there. It's. This is what I loved about Kobe and Michael.
More Kobe. I can't credit Michael to this, but Kobe was like, look, I don't care. They. They'd always ask him, like, why do you play when you're hurt? Because somebody paid like half their paycheck to sit in the nosebleeds to come see, like, the star of the Lakers. I'm gonna play it like that. Outlook. How many, you know, many times my dad would buy these tickets to, like, wwe, and you go and you see like, Ted Dibiase wrestling some no namer. And you're like, that was shitty. I wouldn't have watched that on tv.
You know what I mean? Like, I came to see like, at least Brutus the Barber Beefcake. At least I don't need to see Hulk Hogan, but at least Brutus the Barber Beefcake or some cool kind of name and Demolition or something. I don't give a.
But like Ted Dibiase and some nobody. I saw a villain fight a nobody. That's not what I want to see. I want to see a superstar.
That's all I'm saying. Yeah, you don't know who's watching you. And I know that doesn't make sense, but I was going somewhere else with it originally.
[01:54:43] Speaker B: No, I get what you're saying. Like, maybe I don't. I don't know.
[01:54:50] Speaker A: All that to say is for the co. The. The wrestling thing was about the Kobe thing. So, like, you go and you pay. Your dad pays a certain amount. You're going there to take a moment with your son, watch greatness play, and he's on the bench and you're like, what the fuck is this about? You know, many times I turn on the games and I'm like, oh, I want to watch John Moran play right now on the bench.
You're fortunate to be in that position to do what you love for the money you make, take care of it, you know, I mean, John Moran's a perfect example, actually. He was flashed a gun two or three times on camera.
You have people watch you have kids looking up to you, show some fucking like, yeah, they're. They're the reason you're where you're at. If we all said sports, you guys wouldn't be making millions and living the life you're living.
But you guys help us Cope with the shittiness of life and give us some hope. To hope in a team that literally means nothing to life.
[01:55:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:55:51] Speaker A: You know what I mean?
[01:55:52] Speaker B: So I. So I.
I'll say it again.
We suffered by losing him for five games. He didn't get his pay docked or anything. He just stayed home for five days. So it's just exactly. The punishment didn't fit the crime there, dude.
[01:56:10] Speaker A: He didn't do nothing but say, but. But look at the dude and be like, you know what, dude? It says a lot about you. And walk away.
Just say, I ain't got time for that shit. Even act. Take the better route.
Yeah. I'm gonna go over here and finish batting for a million bucks a game. See you later, sweet cheeks. You know what I mean? Like, you got to go to work tomorrow. I get to do what I love to do.
All I'm saying is he still could have the same stinger and did it in a classier way.
[01:56:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:56:40] Speaker A: Unless you're gonna hit the guy, don't put fucking hands on him. If you put hands on him, hit him. Just hit him. Just go all wild.
[01:56:46] Speaker B: Honestly, he wouldn't have been any worse off if he just punched the guy.
[01:56:49] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, he at least smacked him.
Yeah, he would have been, but he probably could have got sued over the. The grab. If the guy.
[01:56:59] Speaker B: That was probably assault.
[01:57:00] Speaker A: That was that. Yeah. Anytime you touch somebody or something in their hand, it's considered assault.
[01:57:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:57:09] Speaker A: Learn that watching Cops.
[01:57:10] Speaker B: Okay, well, dude, I. I really like all the questions on here. Should we just continue on in the next episode with these?
[01:57:18] Speaker A: Hold on. Where are we at?
[01:57:20] Speaker B: We've done.
[01:57:23] Speaker A: I think that's a perfect place. I was gonna say seven, because there's 13 questions.
[01:57:26] Speaker B: Six, seven.
[01:57:27] Speaker A: So seven, seven works out perfectly. We do eight through 13 next time.
[01:57:33] Speaker B: I.
I was hanging out with some teenage kids a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, no, they're family friends. They're family friends. But even better, I.
Yeah, because they trust me. I really get in there.
[01:57:50] Speaker A: I'm already in.
[01:57:52] Speaker B: But I. I was working 6, 7 into, like, everything I was saying and then pretending I didn't know what it was so I'd be like, dude, I was fucking waiting there, like, six, seven hours. It was crazy. And then, like, oh, dude. Like, I missed, like, the last six, seven games. Like, how are they playing? Like, finally, finally the girl looks at me and she just goes, you're rage baiting me.
[01:58:25] Speaker A: How old were these kids?
[01:58:26] Speaker B: They're 13.
[01:58:28] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[01:58:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:58:30] Speaker A: Right on. That's funny.
Do you? So are you considered officially an uncle? An unc?
[01:58:41] Speaker B: No,
[01:58:44] Speaker A: like my.
When if I post something that's like, let's say, telling a story like you just told, usually in the comments somewhere, it's like, whose unc is loose?
[01:58:55] Speaker B: I. I thought you meant literally an
[01:58:57] Speaker A: uncle and I'm gonna be explaining.
[01:59:00] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah, I think so. Cuz I don't know a lot. I have uncouth opinions and I troll. So I guess, yeah, I guess I'm an uncle, an unk. I guess the proper nomenclature there.
[01:59:17] Speaker A: All right, man. Well, this has been pseudonym.
[01:59:20] Speaker B: Yep.
This was a good one. I like these questions.
[01:59:23] Speaker A: I liked it. I. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I wasn't sure how it was gonna go, but they're actually decent free flowing now. Are they still gonna be Hot Topics when you release them?
[01:59:32] Speaker B: This will be out Monday.
[01:59:35] Speaker A: This one will be.
[01:59:36] Speaker B: Episode 50 is coming out tomorrow. This will be out Monday.
As long as you. As long as you approve it in time.
[01:59:45] Speaker A: I like how you put that on me.
[01:59:48] Speaker B: No, I have to edit it. It might be a little late, but it'll be out next week.
[01:59:56] Speaker A: What did I say? Like I put that on me anyhow.
Yeah, dude, I like. That's what I was gonna say. I like the groove we're in, bro. Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
[02:00:06] Speaker B: Yeah, we got a little backed up there.
[02:00:09] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
Life happened. You know what made me think of. If we ever do get like big is I think we're gonna take the, the. The series route and we're gonna, we're gonna have them wait for like a couple, like a month or two, you know, I mean, like some us time with our family. Because that time's gonna come. We're gonna, we're gonna be like, dude, like now, mind you, once we. This is making our living. That's different.
[02:00:37] Speaker B: Sure.
[02:00:38] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's different. Now we're living close to a studio audience. You know what I'm saying?
[02:00:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:00:48] Speaker A: All right, man. I love you.
[02:00:50] Speaker B: All right.
[02:00:51] Speaker A: Love you.
[02:00:51] Speaker B: Dude, this has been pseudonyms.