007: The South Asian List

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Check. [00:00:01] Speaker B: All right, so, yeah, my neighbors didn't understand I'm trying to record a podcast, so. But yeah, tonight I'm drinking, I'm having a seller reserve, age 21 years, Gurkha cigar with Sam's Club's 14th finest silk and spice, a red blend. That's what I'm drinking on and smoking on top. [00:00:28] Speaker A: I had a Gurkha once and it really rubbed me the wrong way, but it was a lot darker than that. And we already talked about how I actually like a lighter cigar, so I never gave it another chance, but I really think I should. [00:00:42] Speaker B: I only buy Gurkhas when it's not a main event. Not buying a Gurkha for a main event. I'm buying a Gurkha for like my midweek smoke because they sell sample packs for 30 bucks. You get six cigars. [00:00:56] Speaker A: You know, that's pretty good. I. [00:01:04] Speaker B: So yeah, and the red wine is just a red blend. [00:01:08] Speaker A: I've. So I've gotten into red wine for the first time ever. Really. I've had a glass here and there throughout my life and it always gives me a headache. And I think I have a little too much. So it like doesn't leave a good taste experientially. So I've been trying like the cheap ones at the store, Apothec red and California roots. And I tried another one at Aldi that I can't remember the name of. But just having one glass almost every night. And it's delightful, it's great. [00:01:48] Speaker B: So there's, there's a couple things wrong with what you said. First of all, you can never do too much. Okay, that sounds like a drinking problem. I started drinking at a young age, dating older women. They dated, they drank red wines. [00:02:06] Speaker A: High five. [00:02:09] Speaker B: I started off drinking whites, but I noticed all the older women drank red and so I switched up to reds. I didn't like them at first. I didn't like the dryness. But the hangover or the lack thereof is better because of the less sugars, if you will. I, you know, I was talking to my sister and my sister's like, oh, I can't, I can't go to the store and buy wine because my company spoils me with like two three hundred dollar bottles of wine. And I'm like, so you can't go to the store and get a cheap bread? And she's like, no, they just don't taste good to me. Well, she asked, what's wrong with you? I'm like, I could go to the store, I could spend 40 $50 and get a good three or four bottles of wine and I'm happy. Now, don't get me wrong, when I go out and we're doing company functions and there's a nice bottle, I'll enjoy it more. [00:03:03] Speaker A: For sure. [00:03:05] Speaker B: I can appreciate it more. But that doesn't ruin it for the two buck chucks at Trader Joe's, you know what I mean? Like, there was a while I bought cases because Charles Shaw was on sale for 2 bucks a bottle at Trader Joe's when, I don't know, I was probably 22. I bought cases of that stuff, bro. I mean, that was what I was drinking like every night. [00:03:26] Speaker A: I mean, today, Apothec red is like $9 a bottle at our grocery store. I think the California roots was five. It's crazy. [00:03:37] Speaker B: I mean, a good, a good red blend or a red wine is, I mean, Snoop Dogg's Crimes one is pretty good. It's pretty decent. [00:03:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:44] Speaker B: You know, I mean, like again, yes, you're not getting a great bottle of wine, but you're getting something that you can sip on. It's not horrible. You know what I mean? [00:03:54] Speaker A: It's still enjoyable. It's a good experience. The same can't be said for whiskey. You can't go get the cheapest whiskey. That might be a bad example. Jim Beam is one of my favorite bourbons and it's the cheapest one. I mean, almost the cheapest one you can get. But like Evan Williams, some of those, like, you're not getting a quality whiskey when you go spend 20 bucks, you know. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Yeah, but I'm sure my sister can make the argument the same way of like, look, you know, then you haven't had an expensive bottle of our good wine. [00:04:27] Speaker A: No, I'm saying, I'm saying red wine is different in that way. Like, I think the cheaper stuff is still very enjoyable. Whereas like whiskey and beer. [00:04:36] Speaker B: My sister could probably sit here and argue my sister could probably sit here and argue the same thing we're arguing for a whiskey. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:42] Speaker B: You know, but at the end of the day, like, you're right. There is a big difference in a well read that's been aged and it has a good year and it comes from a great region. You're right. But you know, if I'm gonna drop that kind of money on some alcohol, it's not gonna be a bottle of red wine. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:03] Speaker B: You know, I mean, yeah, like we're, you know what I mean? I'm gonna get my bucks worth. I'll just, I'll just stick with My whiskeys stick with it neat. It'll be good. You know, I'd rather drop 120 on a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue than I would for, you know, or 250 on a. On. On a Blanton's than. Yeah, 250 on a bottle of red. [00:05:24] Speaker A: I'm not saying that blue label is worth what it costs, but I had it once. A buddy of mine was gifted a bottle and he shared some with me. And I will say it is worth a lot more than any other whiskey you're gonna have. I just don't know if it's worth 250 a bottle, but it's very good. Like, it's. It's the greatest whiskey I've ever had. [00:05:51] Speaker B: My daughter's boyfriend, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna pull it up here. My daughter's boyfriend gifted me for my birthday a bottle of whiskey that was called Isle of Sky. [00:06:05] Speaker A: I've heard of it. Never know. [00:06:09] Speaker B: Yeah, this thing comes in a freaking box, bro. No, this can't. Yes. Okay, there it is. [00:06:19] Speaker A: It's 157 Halliburton briefcase, dude. [00:06:24] Speaker B: It comes in a. Like the one he got me. Comes in like some. I mean, like, it comes in this box that you have to slide out. So like, they're. They're. It's kind of like. I don't know, I wouldn't say a shoe box, but it comes in a box that slides out of the. Another one. It's got gold, like, you know, fake gold trimming in it. It says Isle of Sky. And then it was the 30 year bottle. The 30 year old bottle. You turn it around, the bottle's inside. You try and grab it out. It's held in by magnets. It's got like a magnet. And like the box that you pulled out of the COVID has a thing that slides in that holds the whiskey in place. Like, it is such a nice box, dude. Like. And the whiskey is so smooth. It was so smooth. It's probably one of the best whiskeys I've had. For sure. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think the greatest bourbon I've had, obviously, as far as scotch goes, blue label. I've never beaten blue label. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Yeah, but blue labels, harsh, man, because it's got that like latakia charcoal kind of like, cut to it. [00:07:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's. It's more peaty than. Than the other ones. I always liked black label. I thought black labels, great, but I'm not into scotch anymore for that reason. Someone. [00:08:02] Speaker B: Green labels pretty good. [00:08:03] Speaker A: I'VE never had green label. Somebody described Scotch as window cleaner in an ashtray, and I can't get that out of my head now. Like, I instantly started to hate the smoky taste after hearing that. I don't. I don't know how that so got in my head, but I'm more of a bourbon guy now. It's just smoother. I just like it better. [00:08:30] Speaker B: So what bourbon are you going with? [00:08:32] Speaker A: I go with Jim Beam every time because it is the cheapest one you can get pretty much, but it's probably the second or third best one I've ever had. They. I actually saw a blind taste test once, and if this was a Jim Beam commercial, this would have been brilliant. But they basically were giving. They were blind taste testing these professional bourbon tasters, and they gave them, like, shitty bourbon. So they would give them Fireball and just watch them react to Fireball and, like, all these different, you know, cheap whiskeys, but they. They gave them Jim Beam and they all were like, is really good. What's this? You know, like, so I've always liked that. That's what I was throwing up that night when we went out with. That's. That's my favorite. I'm back on it. So, yeah, that's. That's my go to. But I'd say Basil Haydens is probably the best bourbon I've had. Not too expensive, but, you know, 30, 40 bucks a bottle. [00:09:38] Speaker B: You like Maker's Mark? [00:09:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I like Maker's Mark a lot, I think. What's the one? Buffalo Trace is probably, you know, second best. It's just a little too expensive, but okay. [00:09:53] Speaker B: What about Woodford Reserve? [00:09:55] Speaker A: Very good, very good. Not as good as Jim Beam, in my opinion, but still really good. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Really? [00:10:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Okay. Okay, I'm feeling you. Let's see, I get a lot of Woodford Reserve. I do like Woodford Reserve. I haven't had Buffalo Trace. I've had. What is it? Four Roses. [00:10:21] Speaker A: Oh, Four Roses rules. You know what? Yeah, I'm gonna give Four Roses, Maker's Mark, and Buffalo Trace all a spot over Jim Beam, but it's hanging in there. It's still. It's still really good. [00:10:36] Speaker B: All right, I'll buy. I'll buy that. I'll buy that. All right. All right. So welcome to the podcast, everybody. My host tonight with me, his old Jimmy B. Jimmy B. I'm Jimmy B. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Every single time you start to introduce me, I realize I didn't come up with a name for you. [00:11:04] Speaker B: Dude, I didn't come up with you for one. For you until right now, when I was like, he liked Jim's Bean, Jim Beam, Jimmy B. Jimmy B. [00:11:12] Speaker A: All right, well, you can't be Snoop Dogg. That's too on the nose. [00:11:16] Speaker B: I could be Johnny. [00:11:18] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. Johnny Black. [00:11:21] Speaker B: I could also be Walker, Texas Ranger. [00:11:24] Speaker A: Now you're Johnny Black. Yeah. [00:11:30] Speaker B: You know who I miss is. I want to say his name, I want to say was Nathan, Nathaniel. Johnny no Good. [00:11:41] Speaker A: Johnny no Good. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Yeah. When we would do evangelism classes, he would play Johnny no Good and he loved it. And every time we'd see each other after, he'd always bring up the fact that he was Johnny no Good. [00:11:55] Speaker A: Is this youth group? Yeah. [00:12:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Wow. What an asshole. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:04] Speaker B: Really? [00:12:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I don't know what it was. He. [00:12:12] Speaker B: He was really serious, bro. [00:12:14] Speaker A: Yes, that was the problem. And if you've known me for five minutes, you know that's not going to fly. Like, not only do I not like serious people, I'm going to do my best to your shit up if you're serious about anything. Yeah. So, yeah, he was just kind of a dick, but that might be editorializing my memory, you know, maybe he was fine. [00:12:37] Speaker B: No, not many kids liked him. He was a serious kid. Like, he walked around with his Bible. He was very serious. Very, like, I. I'd almost say borderline pharisitical, you know, he was very much like, God is. God is hate. Because God loves. I'm like that. Yeah. Makes sense of that for me. God loves baby, therefore babies, therefore he hates abortion. Okay, Makes sense. Makes sense. I mean, you really put some thought into this. More than I did, you know, but makes sense. All right, so shout out to Johnny. No good. [00:13:21] Speaker A: Not walking with the Lord anymore, last I heard. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Really? [00:13:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:25] Speaker B: When'd you last hear, was I still in California? [00:13:28] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, I caught up with maybe 10 years ago, and they were really close. [00:13:36] Speaker B: Was I in Laguna Niguel or was I in Foothill Ranch? [00:13:41] Speaker A: You would have been in Laguna Niguel, yeah. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:13:45] Speaker A: We were all probably at. [00:13:46] Speaker B: By that point, he came over to the Foothill Ranch house and brought me a Bundt cake. We caught up for a little bit. Yeah, I gotta give him a call. He saw. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Wow, you had quite a relationship with this guy. [00:14:01] Speaker B: That's great, man. [00:14:02] Speaker A: I love that for you. That's so cool. [00:14:11] Speaker B: I'd say you never brought me a Bundt cake, but you let me live in your grandma's house, so. [00:14:16] Speaker A: It wasn't. You did. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Grandma's house. [00:14:18] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. I'd love to take credit for that, but I had no ownership of that house at all. [00:14:28] Speaker B: All right, so tonight we're talking about the mind, and there's a couple things I saw about the mind. You know, mindsets, mind control, mind power, and the biblical mind. Where you want to start it, my man? [00:14:49] Speaker A: Well, I had a thought about this, so I'll get rolling with that. And then you probably have a lot more, like, prepared stuff to go over, so we'll see if there's a jumping off point here. I've been thinking a lot about how, like, okay, so the youth group was very legalistic. You remember it? Well, they were always on me. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Can we explain that? I did not lead that youth. That youth group? [00:15:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I thought. I thought we already talked about how you were never officially a youth leader and, like, they held that position over your head as if it mattered. I do. Always I considered you a youth leader because you were an adult that hung out with the youth group, and you had responsibilities. You drove the vehicles. Like, I don't know, it just made sense. And then, like, there. There were some people when I would be like, oh, yeah, you know, so. And so, yeah, he was. He was one of my youth leaders. He's cool, you know, and then someone else from that church would be like, he was never officially a youth leader. Like, like, hey, the lawyers told me. I have to clarify that he was never a. Yeah, yeah, no, no, you were not part of that. But the. The leadership. And, you know, later, it. It came to light that there was a lot of pressure coming down on them from above that, you know, led to a lot of this stuff. But one thing that they always threw in my face. And so I never appreciated the verse because it was used combatively with me. I've always loved music, and so secular, quote, unquote, music was always, like, a hot issue between me and the church leadership. And they would always throw Colossians. One or two. I think it's two, maybe three. Set your mind on things above. And they would throw this out as an argument for why you can't listen to music that's not Chris Tomlinson. And so I. I never really appreciated it, but I have been finding myself lately, like, really starting to feel that way. And it's not like I'm gonna stop listening to, you know, normal music or whatever, but my wife likes reality shows and stuff, and, like, a lot of these, like, you know, like, Real Housewives shows and stuff. And I really just find myself, like, disgusted by it and just, like, literally, like, I don't want to fill my head with this stuff. Like, I don't want to waste my thoughts on, like, trash bag people like this, you know, And I'll see, like, YouTubers with, like, disabilities that people are all into and stuff. And it's like, I don't know, man. Like, why. Why do you need to see that? Like, why are you filling your head? Like, there's more positive, like, cool shit to fill your head up with. So I'm like, starting to kind of understand what that verse really means. Obviously it's about the word of God, but I mean, it's kind of. You know, I'm starting to think about it in everyday decisions of, like, content I consume or thoughts that I let sit on my mind for extended periods of time. You know, it really forces you to ask, like, is this actually beneficial to think about? Is this actually, you know, a God honoring thought? A God honoring, you know, use of your time, you know? [00:18:40] Speaker B: Mm. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. I'm kind of. I'm kind of there. It's. It's real dependent for me. For you. I thought the issue was you kind of advertised it. Like you're. You were on the worship team and like, you show up in, like, I don't know, like, heavy metal shirts and. Yeah, it was. [00:19:03] Speaker A: But again, on the subject of the mind, that's layer. I never had heavy metal shirts. Like, people always said that I wore a Slayer shirt. I've never owned a Slayer shirt in my life, you know? [00:19:13] Speaker B: But what other bands did you own? Maybe it wasn't Slayer, but you had other bands you would wear. [00:19:18] Speaker A: I. One time. One time I did not realize I was wearing a Jimi Hendrix shirt. And I heard about it for about five years. I heard the words Jimi Hendrix shirt until and left that church. It was held over my head forever. [00:19:36] Speaker B: I just remember this one time you wore a Jimi Hendrix shirt. So. So I think the mind is important, dude. I really do. I'm kind of seeing what you're saying, you know. Like, I think one of the. One of the things that really bogs me down in life is, like, when you're talking to somebody and they have so much negative stuff to say, and that's kind of how I look at reality tv is they're so geared towards the negative. Like, they have to have chaos. And I think that's breeding chaos in our. In our society. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Like, it's just staged fights. That's all those shows are, is producers stage fights between these people and film. It. It's the whole thing. It's not even real chaos. It's not even, like, interesting. [00:20:22] Speaker B: No. But what it's producing is those who watch it almost feel the need to have chaos. They become with the mind, like, as far as music goes. I know when I was younger, I listened to a certain group that had certain songs, like Mr. Ouija and all this other stuff. There were times where, yes, during those times, I'd listen to their songs and I would cut myself so much. I would just constantly cut myself. I was cutting carbon tattoos into my hand with an X acto blade. But only really when I listened to their music. And it was. I can't blame their music. I subjected myself to it. But there are certain people I cannot listen to. And if you have a. If you have a scar on your record, I can't listen to you. You know, like, don't get me wrong, most artists with scars are not coming back out, trying to make it better. R. Kelly's not releasing the I'm Sorry song. P. Diddy's not coming out saying, like, hey, you know, like, no more baby oil. [00:21:34] Speaker A: Ryan Adams, He's. He's releasing six records a year, and I love it. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Who's Ryan Adams? [00:21:43] Speaker A: Ryan Adams is a great. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Oh, Brian Adams. [00:21:46] Speaker A: No, no, Ryan Adams. Brian Adams is cool, too. But Ryan Adams is kind of a country, like, indie kind of artist. And he was married to Mandy Moore, and then she came out and said he was a meanie. So he had to cancel his tour and not release records for a couple years. But now he's just releasing records at, like, a manic pace. I mean, like, I think in 20, 21, he released five records of, like, 20 songs each. [00:22:16] Speaker B: What is a meanie? She. [00:22:20] Speaker A: I think the worst thing I heard was that he told her that she didn't have what it took took to make it as a musician because she was an actor and, like, didn't have musical talent. And it's like, wow, so throw him in with Bill Cosby raping unconscious women. Like, he. He deserves the same fate as that guy. [00:22:41] Speaker B: Like, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Now R. Kelly's different, you know? Like, I can't listen an R. Kelly song at all. Like, I just can't. Like, there's no way I could listen to R. Kelly and not think of surviving. R. Kelly, the series. Kendrick Lamar. I watched that. I watched that movie the other night. Kendrick Lamar, he has made so many image, I'd say, imagery of him being Christ or, you know, with. With. With the thorns on the head. And then he has a song where he's Talking to Lucifer and then he becomes Lucifer and he starts talking about how he's deceptive. And it's just like, once you hit that realm, I can't touch you. I don't want to fuck with you. Like, I don't want to listen to you because I do believe, you know, they've taken music and they put it on these. These boards and these sensory things. They've hooked it up to, like, pallets of sand to see what kind of imagery it makes. Worship music makes different imagery than. Than other music. It just does. Like, it actually has patterns. The sand will form to patterns where when you put on something else, the sand just kind of bounces around and makes a muck. And it's. I don't know, man. There's something special about it, but. And it definitely does something inside scientifically to people. Like, it does affect them in a certain way. So for the most part, if I'm by myself, I'm listening to worship music or Christian hip hop. I do love rap, but I also know the mindset rap gets me into. You know, like, if I'm listening to some nipsey hussle, best believe, you better not stare at me the wrong way. You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to say something and it ain't gonna be nice. However, I'm listening to Christian rap. It's a. It's a different mindset, dude. [00:24:32] Speaker A: It just is two things on that. First of all, you went on to make a very good point about Kendrick Lamar that I hadn't really considered because I've never listened to his music too deeply. I've always really loved him, but I've never paid attention to lyrics or anything. So I didn't know about that song about Lucifer. Maybe that's like post what I've listened to. [00:24:52] Speaker B: But no, it was actually pre. It was one of his. His earlier albums. [00:24:57] Speaker A: I just never paid attention. But I literally, when you said his name, I was like, I know what you're about to say. Yeah, he's just embarrassing himself with this Drake beef. Like, what a loser. And then you went on to make a really good point. But second, second, I have never felt that way listening to rap where, like, I'm actually getting into character and, like, I might fucking fight. So, like, I have never felt. Because I like a lot of rap, but I've never felt like anything short of a goofy white guy who doesn't deserve the privilege of hearing this music. [00:25:32] Speaker B: Let me ask you this fucking radio. [00:25:34] Speaker A: Down while I'm driving, because I don't want anyone to know I'm listening. [00:25:38] Speaker B: First of all, I think Kendrick Lamar is diabolically a genius, which I can see when he talks about his Lucifer, like in his Lucifer album or that song, I'm like, okay, I could totally see why you're so brilliant with your music because you actually are admitting you sold your soul. Therefore, like, you are. You're like, the fact that he won five Grammys for Not Like Us and wore a Canadian tuxedo. Tuxedo to the Grammys, Genius. He brings up Drake's ex girlfriend Serena Williams on the Super Bowl. Brings up somebody else that Drake dissed at the Super Bowl. I mean, like, the dude is just like, I love it because I can't stand Drake. But is there no music that makes you feel like SLC punk in any way? Like, where you're just ready? Like, like, do you not put on certain music and you're ready to smash a microwave? [00:26:37] Speaker A: Oh, if I turn on Extremist, that's Extremist with no vowels. That's Davey Havoc from AFI and the Guitar Player, a hardcore project that they did like 10 years ago. It's nuts. Yeah, that changes my mood for the rest of the year. [00:26:55] Speaker B: It changes your mindset, right? Changes your whole mind. [00:26:57] Speaker A: Thinking about that, though. I wasn't thinking about anything that applied to me. I was thinking about rap. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, when I got laid off, I knew layoff was coming. I knew I was in the right. And I'm driving with a co worker who carpooled with me that day, and I was like, hey, I got stopped by the office. I got to have my meeting. They're going to let me go. And he's like, how do you know this? I'm like, I just know, bro. I just know how this works. And so, dude, I put on Nipsey Hussle's, like, grinding all my life, and I was just like, like, I was ready. He's like, this is the music you chose. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm ready for war, bro. Like, like, yeah, I'm ready to go in and tell, like, what is up, by the way. I need. Yeah, exactly. I need to. I, I, I really want to stop cussing as much. And I notice I cuss a lot during our podcast. [00:27:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know why. It just feels right. [00:27:50] Speaker B: It. You know what I mean? [00:27:51] Speaker A: But then when I'm listening to it, I'm like, gosh, you really like myself. I really just, like, cram the F word into any little space it'll fit. I don't know why I do that. It just. [00:28:01] Speaker B: Yeah. So I really wanted to focus on that as well as we proceed, because just in life in general, I don't want to be like, I think they're ignorant kind of words in the sense that you really don't have anything better to describe that. Now, mind you, I told my kids they could cuss for two reasons, okay? Growing up, you could cuss for two reasons. One, let's say you stub your toe. And a cuss word is the only thing that really defines the hurt. You know, where you stub your toe and you're like, oh, God, it feels so good. [00:28:30] Speaker A: It's got the F. [00:28:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Or. Or you gotta land a good. Like, it really. It's really the only thing to land this joke. You know what I mean? Like, a cuss word will really throw the crowd off. Like, you know what I mean? [00:28:47] Speaker A: Brothers, like in stepbrothers, when he goes, you're fucking high. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:28:53] Speaker A: You couldn't deliver that line with any other word. My parents, last time I saw them, they were like, you know, you're gonna have to stop cussing soon. You know, your daughter's almost a year old. Like, she's. She's talking soon, you know, you're gonna have to stop. And I really just had this moment where I was like, I don't think I can in good conscience raise her to believe in magic words. Like, I don't. I don't believe in bad words. Like, they're just how you use them. You know what I mean? Like, and that includes the N word 100%. I just feel like there's how you use it. And like, the Bible only ever talks about, like, tearing. Using your language to tear people down. There's not, like, magic words, okay? So objectively worse. [00:29:45] Speaker B: You'll appreciate this. I went to a black. I have a friend who's black, and I went to his wedding the other night. And afterwards he had an after party. And we're all driving in the car. It was a bride and groom in the back and me and this big black dude in the front seat. And, you know, they're. They're kind of already, like, they're giggling and stuff as I. Because I. It was like, you go from suit at the wedding. We go home changed, and we all kind of come back together before we go to the after party. And I come over and I got my wheat Timbs on and, you know, my jeans, and just like, it was Valentine's Day, so I had a pink know dress shirt. On. And they're like, I expected nothing less. Nothing less. So we get in the car and they're like, he's our one white friend. You always got to have one, right? White friend. And I was like, look, I. I'm not gonna lie. If we get pulled over tonight, I'm gonna definitely let the cops know these kidnapped me. And they started laughing. They. They laughed so hard. They was like, you even said it right. I was like, how's there. What other one ways there to say it like, y'all kidnapped me, man. We get pulled over. [00:30:52] Speaker A: I will argue that you have to say the er in that scenario, because in that scenario. [00:30:58] Speaker B: But I'm not going to do it in the car when explaining it to my friends. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Sure. But when you say the A, the cop knows who their dealer is. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And mind you, I'm going to say it with really pronunciated vowels. You know what I mean? I'm like, you know these. [00:31:14] Speaker A: You took me. I'll probably cut that out. [00:31:19] Speaker B: You will. You're gonna bleep it out. I know you will. [00:31:22] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:31:23] Speaker B: You should. [00:31:24] Speaker A: I just said there's no such thing as magic words. [00:31:28] Speaker B: That one's magic. So. All right. So I do think music. I do think the things that you subject your mind to, I think movies, music, music, I think they all affect your mindset. I think what you. I honestly think what you're feeding yourself is what going. Is what is going to come out of yourself eventually. You know, I know it's not what goes in the body that defiles it, but what comes out of it. But I also think when you aren't renewing your mind, you're not focusing your mindset on the things above. You're not loving God with all your mind might and strength. Like, I honestly think by not protecting your mind, because Paul talks about the mindset quite a bit. He talks about renewing it. He talks about the warfare, the spiritual warfare that we're going through is not just spiritual, but you have to pray with your soul and your mind. And so I think the mind plays a big part in. In who we are. And I think as. As you dive into mindsets fixed and growth, I think that kind of explains it. I mean, there's such a differentia between the two. I didn't realize how much of a fixed mindset I was until I was introduced to that. And then all of a sudden was like, wow, that's why I don't do this. That's why I'll do that. That's why I do this. But the great thing is, is like, to take on a growth mindset. It's not a difficult thing, you know? [00:33:03] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm reading the Creative act by Rick Rubin, and he's talking about, like, inspiration and like, where creative, creative ideas come from. And he basically gives this illustration of, like, we're all different vessels, like rain barrels, and everything is raining down and getting filtered through, through our experience and our specific memories and everything that makes us who we are. And so we're all getting the same rain, but it's all getting filtered differently. And so what's gonna come out of that vessel is gonna be different for every person. Even though we're all getting the same music, the same movies, the same television, we're all taking in the same stuff, but we're gonna deal it out a little bit differently and recycle it into our own creative projects. And so I've been thinking about it more just in general, just like, not just creative things, but just anything coming out of you. Your conversations, your expressions of love, you know, you're. The way that you talk to other people. And so I've been trying to think more about that. And the more I think about stuff like that, the more, you know, I. I don't know, I'm trying to think, like, for some reason, Instagram is showing me a lot of reels of Blink 182 concerts. But, like, to an annoying degree, they are, like very crude and crass in between songs and they just joke about each other's moms and it's just, it's over the top. It's. It's like, not even funny. It's like, just kind of lame. Yeah, I'm not saying that, like, in a woke way. I'm not like, offended by it. It's just not like a well crafted joke, you know what I mean? And so, like, for some reason those are just coming up and I get like three, you know, F bombs into it and I'm like, this is just clunky and retarded and I just move on to something. And I'm like, trying to follow more art and stuff on Instagram so that I'm just, like, seeing more inspiring things, you know? [00:35:15] Speaker B: Dude, honestly, this being being laid off, I made a decision to make the most of my time. If I'm going to listen to something, I'm not gonna just listen to my everyday playlist of just, you know, R B and sexual music and, you know, or, you know, alternative, whatever it is. Rap. I was like, I want to listen to a podcast that's edifying to my mind. I want to grow. If I'm gonna watch something outside of Cops, then I'm gonna watch something that's, that's edifying. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Like, so I try that. You like Cops. Just, I can't get over it. [00:35:56] Speaker B: But I tried to replace TV in general with reading. Like, instead of sitting there watching a basketball game or Cops, I tried picking up a book and just reading, maybe even a commentary on a chapter of the Bible I'm in or something about self, personal growth, you know. And so I just want to make the most of my time. [00:36:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:18] Speaker B: And you know, the Bible says that like the, the mind for those who don't believe, like their mind is hostile towards God. You know, it's defiled, it's depraved, it's hardened, it's, it's despiteful, it's disgusted. You know what I mean? Like, but then the mind of a believer, if you will, is willing. It's in peace, it's right renewed. It has the mind of Christ, it's obedient. And so I think the mind, for me, the mind is the battlefield. The mind is the battlefield. Like, when I want to sin, the initial thought of sin is birthed in my mind, you know. And so, you know, I think it's James six that talks about. It talks about it. It says there's not even a six in James. It's. It's James five actually. It talks about, I don't know, it's somewhere in James, but it talks about like, you know, sin. You know, first it's desire and then it's sin. And then that can, you know, birth, death, if you will. Everything starts in the mind. Like my mind when I'm like, man, I really want to be with a woman tonight. It's a thought, you know, it's a thought. Like, man, I really want to, you know, do. It's all a thought. It's one thought that is birthed. And so my next thought currently is I'm not going to be mastered by my emotions or by my human desires. Like, I'm not going to let. I'm not going to live a Romans 7 life. I'm not going to do the things that I don't want to do. I'm going to live like a Romans 6 Life and Master my members of my body and say, hey, look, I don't want to do that. I don't need to do that. I'm not subject to you. I have A goal. I'm driven. I see people like Michael Jordan, and I'm like, dude, you're so driven. Like, I don't have, you know, I really don't have that kind of drive in me, but. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Well, that level of drive is not healthy. He's an insane person. I heard a Satanist one time criticizing Christianity, and he said he was talking about Catholicism specifically, but he was saying, you know, you've got this whole system set up where you can do this thing that makes you feel bad, and then you have to go and, like, talk to a guy in a box about it, and then you just keep doing it. But, like, me as a Satanist, if something makes me feel bad, I just don't do it again. And so, like, I. I asked my pastor about that one time, and I was like, how would you respond to that? I mean, like, because. Because it does seem like kind of a deficiency in Christians that, like, we spend so much time, like, straight. It's kind of like how we were talking about in episode four about. [00:39:41] Speaker B: Was this pastor's name Steve? [00:39:43] Speaker A: No, no, it was Chris. But it was like we were talking about, you know, the. The Christian who is constantly struggling with something and just never really seems to, like, take their battle against that sin seriously. And it just seems like, yeah, that is kind of the caricature of, like, most Christians is like, we're all just kind of doing the same things over and over again and, like, never really getting serious about not doing them. So, like, how do you balance that with, like, not trying to be legalistic and, like, I mean, like, just how do you enter into what you just said with, like, the proper mindset without falling into legalism? [00:40:24] Speaker B: I'm not saying I have the answers. Or did you have more? Did he have an answer to that? Oh, I'm not saying I have the answer. [00:40:30] Speaker A: I'm sure he said something. [00:40:32] Speaker B: But I know what. I know what makes it easier. The more I pray, the more I read and the more I seek him, those things come very easy. [00:40:41] Speaker A: The. [00:40:41] Speaker B: The battle's actually very easy at that point. Like, I've realized when I struggle with sin, I'm not reading and I'm not praying. But when I actually set apart time, like, I have timers on my phone that say, pray for 15 minutes. When I actually do that, sinning actually becomes easier to not do. Now, when I'm talking to a Satanist, a Satanist worships themselves. That's the goal of Satanists. Satanism is. I'm number one. It's not that they Worship Satan. They worship themselves like their self is number one. So those things that feel good to them would, in the Christian mindset, be considered sin. All temptation is. Is. Is good, is not good. All temptation is pleasing to us. Yeah, I've never struggled with wanting to stub my toe. I've never been like, man, I really want to go stub my toe. No, I struggle with the things that make. Give me, that provide my. My flesh with pleasure. Watching porn and masturbating. Having sex with girls. Smoking weed, drinking, doing drugs. The things where it's like, I can escape. I can go do this, you know? Like, I've never struggled with, like, hitting my hand with a hammer. I've never been on the job site and be like, oh, don't do it now. Don't do it now. Like, don't hit. You know what I mean? Like, I've never done that. But I've been on a job site, and I've seen a girl and I've thought, like, oh, okay, hold on. Let me put down the hammer. Let me go talk to her. You know, like, let's see if I could do this. But as I enter into, like, that's what the blessing was in that three months off is it pushed me to pray more. It pushed me to read more. It pushed me. And so now when I get to work, I get to work a half hour before anybody gets there, because I want to sit and pray over my job site, over just things in general. I want to be able to kind of, like, get my mindset right for the day, you know? And it helps, man. Like, I work with somebody that doesn't pull his weight, but I'm praying for him every day. And I'm not trying to bash him. I'm trying to, like, encourage him. I'm trying to help him. Where, like, if I wasn't, I. It's a pretty easy target to make myself look really good just in comparison. Owner comes around, I can compare all day. Like, that guy sucks. He doesn't do this, he does that. No, like, you know, he's doing what he can, you know? [00:43:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:12] Speaker B: So. But one. One book that I really love, and I'm going to plug every time I can and I do. To anybody that asked me about a book, and I brought it up during our book session. Carol Dweck's the Mindset in that book. I mean, like, this lady made it her career to study the mind, and she did this off of testing a lot of students throughout her years, and they are actually trying to. They by being psychologists, not her and her team, but psychologists are relating fixed mindsets to depression as well. Most people with fixed mindset struggle with depression. Not saying growth mindset, don't struggle with depression, but growth mindset will more or less try and tackle or address their depression. Where fixed mindsets, they will let go of things, they'll stop doing certain things. They go into a deeper depression, if you will. And so, you know, like getting ready for this. I almost had to read that whole darn book all over again, which was not a bad thing. But like fixed mindsets, they look at tests, like when they score on a test. So they took this group and they had like growth and fixed. And the fixed people wanted to look at test scores worse than theirs to feel better about themselves. Growth mindset people wanted to know who scored better than them to see where their deficiencies were. Their own personal deficiencies, not the other people's. Fixed mindset people, they have higher levels of depression, they let things go and growth, you know, definitely want to confront their depression. Fixed mindset people, they lose confidence. They don't have a lot of confidence. In fact, they did a test on fixed mindset people and they asked them scenarios. They said, hey, let's say you're at a new school and you start getting bullied. You know, what do you feel? And they kind of walked them through this, these psychologists. A lot of fixed mindset people said that they would feel like a nobody, they would feel worthless and they would want violent revenge like they desired. Violent revenge. Where the growth mindset people excused it as that bully has some issues going on, whether it's at home or whether it's with their self esteem, but they have issues going on. What they say about me doesn't dictate who I am. And so I thought that was a real big difference. That's a big difference. And it also, it made me want to look at like, fuck people who do these mass shootings. Are they fixed mindset? Like, I would love for us, I would love for people to study them, right? People, not, not MK Ultra doctors or anything like that. I'm talking about like, like upstanding doctors, of course, fixed mindset people. They, they, they're limited in their achievements because they're afraid to fail. You know, like, like I've told you before, I, after reading this book, I've learned to compliment my kids on the process, their effort and not their ability. So let's say I, you know, I say to my child, like, dude, you got an 8 out of 10, like you are so smart. Like, I'm so proud of. You are so smart. I'm complimenting the fact that they're smart where growth mindset, I'm. I'm appreciating their efforts. So I'm teaching her effort wise. Like, wow, you got a 10. 8 out of 10. Like, I'm like, I'm so impressed with how hard you worked. Like, I'm. That. That is. That's awesome. In these tests that she did, when it came to fixed mindset, people, they did not want to go to onto a different challenge. They wanted to kind of live on that land of I'm smart, where when they talked to people and told and complimented the effort, same group, 90% of them wanted a new challenge. When they. When they complimented the effort and not the ability, 90% of the same people wanted a new challenge. So I just think that's really. I think it's crazy. [00:47:49] Speaker A: I'm not sure I understand the correlation there. So, like, by. By encouraging, like, an inherent virtue or like, just the way someone is, that's putting them more in a fixed mindset? [00:48:09] Speaker B: No, it's funny, okay, because part of a fixed mindset is people believe they're born with those certain traits. And I found myself doing this before I even started rereading the book tonight. I was. I was thinking about. I forget what I was thinking about. Oh, I was thinking about a company that wanted to hire me that I knew nothing about what they did, but I've worked with them before because they were my subs and they wanted to hire me. And I was like, well, I don't know anything about what you guys do. Why do you want to hire me? And they're like, well, you know, like, you have. You have this, you have that, you have this. And I was like. And in my mind, I'm like, oh, honestly, I thought this tonight, before I started. Sat down and started rereading, I was like, ooh, yeah, I guess you can't teach those things. You know what I mean? Like, I was like, yeah, exactly. Guess you're born with those things. However, your trade, I can learn. You know what I mean? But you can't teach what I got fixed mindset. People think they're born like that. You're more or less trained, if you will, like that you do have certain traits. But to say that you don't know how to talk to people, therefore, you can never be a salesman. [00:49:24] Speaker A: I'm Jimmy B. Beep, beep. [00:49:33] Speaker B: To say, like, jimmy, you can't. You can't, you know, you, you'll never be a successful salesman because you just don't have the gift of gab. You don't know how to talk to people. Fixed mindset. People have tested, have, have shown to be more shy because they view themselves in a certain light. They think you're born a certain way with certain traits. Therefore, you can't learn them where growth. Mindset. People, they look at life as, you know, they embrace the challenge, but they look at life as a process of development. So, yeah, I may not have the gift of gab. Now, that doesn't mean I can't learn how to have small talk, engage with people about certain things and so forth and such and such. So, but fix mindset. I mean, you're gonna, you're, you, Jamie B. Are going to train your little one to either be fixed or growth. You just are. There's going to be things you say to her. There's going to be things you do. Again, I do not compliment my, my daughters on their beauty at all. Yeah, you look great. Oh, you look beautiful. I'll tell them they look beautiful. You know, they'll get dressed up and be like, hey, how do I look? I'll be like, oh, you look beautiful, darling. But I also follow with. True beauty is how you treat people. True beauty is your character. True beauty is what you stand for. It has nothing to do with your looks because at the end of the day, you could be the most beautiful girl. But if you treat people like crap, I think you're very ugly. And I think honestly, one of the most sexiest traits in a woman is confidence. You know, like, you can be, I'm not gonna lie, you could be a chubby girl. You could, you could have some, some cellulite on those legs. But if you, if you come into a room kind of holding yourself high, yeah, I'll stand next to you. You know what I mean? [00:51:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I. First of all, I saw a picture of Monica Lewinsky from the 90s today and was blown away that she was considered a fat chicken back in the day. She looks like a pretty normal sized chick by today's standards. But I, I very much was highly complimented by my parents and like, led to believe that, like, I could do anything. And I was just sort of born with everything I needed and I'm just good, you know, like, you're, you're the smartest, you're the most talented, yada, yada. And when I got to adulthood and stuff wasn't working out just because I'm awesome, I started to get like, very confused, you know what I mean? Like, I think I did have some natural musical talent, but I put nothing into trying to make a career out of music. And then I was confused when I didn't become a professional musician, you know, and there was also like, go ahead. [00:52:31] Speaker B: Do you think that's because of lack of commitment, effort? [00:52:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it was severe anxiety that I did not understand. I did not understand why I couldn't go meet other musicians and like try to start a band. I did not understand why I couldn't fill out a job application and like go on an interview, you know, Like, I couldn't do those things. It was too terrible. Like, no one taught me how. No one told me it was nothing to be afraid of, you know, like no one forced me to do it. So it's like, you know, if I can get a little critical here, if my 21 year old daughter was sitting home all day and wasn't able to go get a job, I would be like very concerned for her mental health, you know, just saying. Not everyone reacts that way when they're, when their kid acts like that, that. But I've, you know, come to. It sounds to me, even though I wasn't aware of this book until you brought it up a few weeks ago, it sounds to me like I shifted from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset at some point because that is very much my outlook now. I mean, I'm in tech support now and a year ago I was literally saying like, well, I could never get a job in tech support because I don't know anything about tech. And I went from that to a few months later I was like, well, I'm gonna learn it. Like, okay, you know, and I'm applying. [00:53:59] Speaker B: Honestly, growth mindset is skills and achievement comes from commitment and effort. [00:54:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Where like fixed mindset, you don't put yourself in a place to fail. You always operate out of what you're comfortable with. You know what I mean? So you're. And you believe that people are born with certain gifts, therefore you don't really think they're learnable things. You know, I think, I think we talked about him in episode four. I know that because I was listening to it today. By the way. It's good to go, man. It's good to post. I didn't see anything wrong with it, J Dog. I think he, you know, like, I think he was very much fixed mindset, you know, like he was very afraid to go apply at jobs and you know, we were like no, dude, like, you have, like, it's a requirement to live in our house is if you have to have a part time or full time job and be a part time or full time student to live here for free. Otherwise, go, go do life, bro. Get the, you know, get the hell out of my place. I think, honestly, because in general, like, in life in general, things come easy to me. And so I think I was very fixed mindset because things came easy, but I was very much someone who did not want to put myself at risk. And so it took me a long time in life, but I'm learning to expand me, you know, I'm learning and this book really opened my eyes, like, this book really opened my eyes to, like, I'm fixed mindset. That's why when you say I'm a dumbass, I think I'm a dumbass. When you say I'm a piece of shit, I actually think I'm a piece of shit. Where a growth mindset, you call them. Yeah, you know, it's cool, dude. We're, we're over it. But now in the growth mindset, I'm like, oh, that's what you think, Jimmy? That's what you think? Let me show you. I'm not. Let me show you. I'm not. I'm going to come to this next episode with tons of study work and you're going to show up with nothing. [00:56:10] Speaker A: I was drunk. I told you. It's Carol Dweck. You said? [00:56:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Carol Dweck. [00:56:16] Speaker A: Okay, just so everyone knows, that book is $10 on Amazon. So I'm. [00:56:21] Speaker B: Oh, and just so everyone knows, if you Google, if you Google Mindset, the New Psychology of Success. Dweck. There's an actual PDF of her book online for free that you can, like if, if you are. Don't get me wrong, if you can buy the book, buy the book. But if you're struggling on cash, I can send you the PDF. Dude, if you're struggling on cash, it's, it's a, like, it has the PDF version. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Sweet. Yeah, I'll do that. Send it over. [00:56:58] Speaker B: It's a great read though. Honestly. It's one of my favorite books. It really helped me really open my eyes to how I think how I raise my kids. [00:57:07] Speaker A: I've heard a lot of analyzation from you about it. Does it ever get into like, hey, if you've read this book and you figured out you're a fixed mindset, like, here's where you go, like, here's, here's almost every chapter. Oh, okay, great. [00:57:21] Speaker B: Almost every chapter talks about how to address those areas and it challenges you. Like, one of the things I was reading tonight, like, in one of her chapters, it said like, hey, like, you know, some people say, hey, what if I like being fixed mindset? You know, she addresses that. So. And then she goes into like, hey, if you're shy and you have a fixed mindset and you think it's because you're shy, like, just understand, like, keep pressing into talking to people. Keep pressing into. Like, it might be uncomfortable, but you're making it more uncomfortable than what it has to be, you know? But I think. I honestly think the mind is a very important place, dude. I mean, like, look at mind control. I mean, look at brainwashing, you know, Like, I've been to Mormon services. Whether you're two months old, two weeks old, or pushing 102 years old, you hear at least six times during a Mormon service on a Sunday that, I believe Joseph Smith is a true prophet. And I believe today we have a true and living prophet. I mean, it's Brainwashing 101. They repeat it six times. And you know it, you know it by heart. And it's, you know, it's making people believe something that is not necessarily conventional. [00:58:42] Speaker A: So do you think that there's anything to. I don't think law of attraction is the right phrase for it. It might be more like affirmations. But, like, if you think that repeating Joseph Smith is a prophet could, like, hypnotize. And I mean that in the true sense of the word. I don't mean that like cruise ship hypnotists. I mean, like, you know, something that. That starts to re. Recreate schemas in your brain and you start to just accept this thing. Do you. Do you think there's anything to people who will, like, say their daily affirmations? Because it does the same thing. You know, people who get up every day and tell themselves that they're successful and that they can quit smoking. [00:59:33] Speaker B: I do. Yeah, I do. I actually do. I didn't until I started. And I wouldn't say I was doing it, but I was writing things on my mirror that I'd have to tell myself, like, is this day one or is this just one day? A negative mind will never produce a positive life. This might be too big for you, but it's not too big for him. You know, like, I would go through that and sometimes I just needed the reminder. I didn't do it every day, but they were written on my mirror and I only had space to see myself. Like, I just had a big you in my mirror, but everything else was written around it. There were things that I. Yeah, I told myself that was just like, okay, like. And I didn't tell myself every day. It was just reminders when I was in those moods. But, yes, I do believe there are certain things, you know, as you tell yourself, I think you start to believe them for sure. [01:00:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:34] Speaker B: I'm just not someone that's into that kind of routine. [01:00:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. One. One thing I was telling myself coming into this year, it was kind of a bummer. I had a. I had three job interviews right at the end of the year In December, in 2023, I just realized I'm in the wrong year. It's 2025. [01:00:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I was about to say, man. [01:00:58] Speaker A: But at the end of 2023, right before my daughter was born, I had three interviews with this place for a marketing job. And I was stoked. I was like, three interviews. There we go. I just had an interview with the CEO of this company. I'm getting this fucking job. And it's a remote job, like, perfect. Everything I wanted. And then I never heard back. I didn't get the job. I was like, fuck. So, you know, luckily I had other things to deal with. But coming into 2024, I was like, okay, I'm going to try a thousand things, and I'm going to be successful at 1% of them. That was, like, my whole idea. I got it from Scott Adams. He was the creator of the Delbert comics, but he writes really, really good books. And one is called reframe your brain. And it's all basically about, like, changing the way you're looking at a thing to make it more positive. So I can't. 1. One thing is, your job is to get a better job. So he's like, don't think of yourself as a tech support guy. Think of yourself as someone who is training for their next better job. That is your true job. Your job is to do as good at this one as you can to get the next better one. And it's 100 of those things in the book. It's just chapter upon chapter of reframing negative things. And so I was just like, if I'm successful at A. At 1% of a thousand things, that's 10 things. I need 10 things in my lifetime to work out. I need, like, one good job, couple good side hustles, you know, like what? You know, I just need a few good decisions to basically make my life. Everything I Want it to be, you know? And so I wrote that in my journal a lot. Not every day, but, like, a lot. And one of those things is the job I applied for that I'm now that I now have. When I applied for it, I was like, probably not gonna get this one, but, like, I'm gonna try a thousand things. And this is one thing, you know, and it's the only thing that worked out that year, relatively speaking. [01:03:03] Speaker B: I honestly think your outlook is. Is. Is definitely dictates. Dictates a lot. I really do. I think if you ever. If you ever are interviewing in the future, I have a great bunch of great interview techniques. Like, I just. I kept honing in my interviewing over this last time, and it all worked out. I mean, I'm still. Actually, I got a job offer today, and I'm like, I already landed somewhere. I mean, it looks like it was just because it was the end of the year. I don't care. But if you ever need help in that, let me know. Secondly, I do think what you feed yourself mentally is definitely dictates how you respond. [01:03:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:46] Speaker B: You know, flip what he says and you don't try nothing. You fail nowhere, you're stuck. Flip the positive affirmations to negative affirmations guarantee you you're going to take a quick left. You're going to take a quick left. I definitely think. I think what it does is it restructures your mind process, your thought process. [01:04:12] Speaker A: Literally. The analogy that he gives is that your mind is software and reframing certain things is basically just making the software run better, more. [01:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. I think he's spot on with that. I honestly think, like, what you tell yourself again, I mean, take, take, take it to two people. You're now feeding your wife's mind. She's feeding your mind. If you walked into the kitchen every morning and told your wife she's a horrible cook and breakfast sucks, do you think she's gonna think she's a good cook? [01:04:52] Speaker A: I thought it would motivate her to cook better. [01:04:57] Speaker B: No, that ain't gonna happen, man. Your wife's a shitty cook. [01:05:00] Speaker A: No, she's great. We had. We had enchiladas tonight and it was fantastic. [01:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah. How's your coffee? [01:05:14] Speaker A: She made me coffee today. It was fine. [01:05:18] Speaker B: Did she really? [01:05:19] Speaker A: She did. [01:05:19] Speaker B: Was there foam on top? Are you not a foam guy? [01:05:22] Speaker A: No, it was just a French press of black coffee. [01:05:28] Speaker B: That's easy. So. [01:05:35] Speaker A: Real fixed mindset coffee. [01:05:40] Speaker B: Yeah. You said that was a fixed press. [01:05:47] Speaker A: Okay. The. The episode title Is for sure, fixed mindset. Coffee. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I think, honestly, the mind is. Is very important. I think what you. What you put into it, what you. You know, and I try and control my thoughts, man. I try and dictate my thoughts. Like, you know, like today even there was a lady that dropped off a piece of equipment, and I was like, wow. Like, she's. She's built. You know, like, she's built like, she's got a nice body and. And it was like, I immediately went into, like, you're objectifying her. Like, this wouldn't be. This is not how you should look at her. Like, this is. And I think that's. That's the seriousness of watching porn. I think porn, whether you're a guy or girl, reprograms your mind to objectify people. When I think I know in there, in times of my life when I've struggled with pornography, I cannot not. You're not going to not get Randy Jackson's autograph. I cannot not look at a girl and not objectify her. You know what I mean? I cannot look at her and think, wow, she must look like this naked. She must have this type of body. Man, that would be fun for a night. Oh, man, we would be doing this. I bet she's. But when I've switched that to praying and reading and just. And it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be a chore, you know, I look at that, like, when I work out physically, when I work out physically and go to the gym, I want to get in and get out, bro. I don't want to be there three, four hours. Like some people. That's ridiculous. I want to get in, hit the muscle groups I'm focused on and get the out. I'm not there. Try not to cuss. Here I am. I'm not there to, like, make friends, you know? Like, I hear some people like, oh, I was at the gym for two hours. What were you doing for two hours? Like a full body workout massage. I mean, what are you doing for two hours? Go in, hit your four or five, six different reps and, you know, like, hit your. Your six groups do three reps each. You shouldn't be more than an hour. Get out now. When I don't work out, where I was going with that is when I read and I have to make it every day that I'm studying something, it becomes a chore where if I just read to just read, Lord, I just want to know more about you. And I just read a chapter for what it is. Maybe meditate on it throughout my day. It's different. It doesn't become the chore next morning where I'm like, oh, I don't, I don't. Like, I don't. I don't have the time to break out. It's going to take me five, 10 minutes. Just get my pens, my highlighters, set it all out. Get my. Get to the right page, get my notebook out. Like, no, no, no, no. Just read to read and meditate on it. Make whatever notes, however you can, but meditate on it. Like, you don't have to make it a chore. And I find I have more growth in those stages of my life than when I try and break it out, pull out the strongs, you know, whether it's on my laptop or the actual book itself or. You know what I mean? Four different Bibles with the different. No, no, no, no, no. Like, now you're making it a chore. Yeah, just read to read, you know, just read to get to know him. [01:09:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Also an audio Bible sometimes, if you're short on time. Really great. Throw that on in the car on your way to work. Get a couple chapters in before you get to work. It's great. [01:09:22] Speaker B: There's podcasts that read you. They go through the Bible and they read. It's meant to go through the whole year. And so it gives you three chapters. You're done for the day. You know, those are good. Sometimes I really want to get the Word of Promise. The one where it had all the. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Actors I haven't heard of. [01:09:43] Speaker B: It had like Richard Dreyfus. Richard Dreyfus, I think plays Pontius Pilate, Jim Cavisiel or whoever that covers the guy who played Jesus and Passion of Christ. He actually plays Jesus in it. It's. Dude, it's got like 40 plus prominent actors that play people in this audio Bible and it's got like background noise. So you, you know, it's kind of like old school radio. [01:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:10] Speaker B: You know, where they. When there's thunder, you hear them, you know, making thunder. [01:10:14] Speaker A: It's got the aluminum sheet, they're making thunder. Yeah, I've heard the thing. What's it called? Not Dwell. Dwells. Like that Catholic prayer app. There's an app that I'm forgetting the name of, but it was a bunch of different Bible translations, a bunch of different voices and then background music. And you could customize each one so you could say like, okay, I like esv. Is it hollow maybe? Yes. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. And so you can. [01:10:48] Speaker B: That's Catholic, too. [01:10:49] Speaker A: Is it really? [01:10:51] Speaker B: It is. Maybe that Candace Owens is a big supporter. [01:10:54] Speaker A: That's not the one. [01:10:55] Speaker B: Quite a bit. [01:10:55] Speaker A: That's not the one I was thinking of. Maybe Dwell is the one that I was thinking of, but it's. It's just audio Bibles. It's not a prayer app. And so you can, like Chad Lawson, who does the piano for Lore, that podcast. He. He does a bunch of tracks for it. So you can, like, put Chad Lawson playing piano behind this cool, like, British black guy reading the Voice. And the only reason I don't have it is that's pretty cool. It's five bucks a month. I was like, I'm not paying five bucks a month for an audio Bible. There's so many free options for that. [01:11:30] Speaker B: But you know what I mean? I could put on some incubus, read it myself in my Australian accent. You know what I mean? Why do I need pay five bucks for that? [01:11:41] Speaker A: That sounds awful. Everything. You just said it. I can turn on corn and read it myself. [01:11:50] Speaker B: I was thinking Primus prime is nice. [01:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:57] Speaker B: All right. So I'm really excited about next week, by the way. I have to tell you. I love talking to you. Like, it's. It's so hard not to talk to you during the week because I enjoy these nights because I'm like, if I talk to him during the week, we're gonna ruin the whole podcast. Like, we're gonna. We're gonna lay out all our material on a wasted conversation, a phone call. [01:12:19] Speaker A: That's so sad. We could be friends. Yeah. No, when we do talk, do you. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Have anything else on the mind, though? [01:12:30] Speaker A: On the mind? Probably a little bit of retread of stuff we've already talked. Talked about. You know, I picked on my wife a little bit for watching reality shows, but I love a podcast called Legion of Skanks. Now, hold on. It's not what it sounds like. This is why it's not a more popular podcast, because the name is completely unmarketable, but it's kind of like a band name where it doesn't have anything to do. It's just three comedians, but they are the funniest guys. I mean, it's the funniest podcast I've ever heard in my life. But, you know, they're pretty crass. It's obviously, like, very edgy, pretty dark. And, like, there just come moments where I'm like, you know, I'm also guilty of a little bit of that reality TV show stuff. One of the standup comedians on that podcast his name is Louis J. Gomez. And, like, he will go on to, like, tirades about, like, physical fitness and mindset and, like, he's a, he used to be a salesman. So, like, he's just very, like, motivational and, like, has a lot of good outlook in life and stuff. But then, like, on the funny side of the podcast, he'll tell a story about, like, some public confrontation that he got into because it happens to him every single day. And it's a funny story. But then at the same time, it's like, yeah, you're just telling a story about how you ruined someone's day who, like, wasn't being that bad of a guy, you know? And, like, you do just have to step outside of everything that you're hearing and thinking, especially, like, your own thoughts. More than just. I talked a lot about, like, what's. What content you're consuming. I think, you know, more important is, like, what are you, what are you dwelling on for 20 minutes on your way to work? Think about that, because that's, that, that's more in your head than anything you're listening to. But I just, I do have to analyze a lot more, like, what I'm taking in because it's garbage in, garbage out. And today I, I, I've been working from home because we're snowed in. And so in between phone calls, I'm just listening to Legion of Skanks. I did it all day yesterday for, like, eight hours, and then today it got to be like, 10 o'clock, and I was like, I can't. Like, I need to do stuff. So I edited our podcast and I listened to a lecture by a writer and stuff. Just, like, trying to do more, like, productive, positive things because it's just, it's entertaining and it's funny, but it's just too much. [01:15:08] Speaker B: Dude. I'm telling you, man, when you start looking at the time we waste on, on just stuff that has no weight as far as edification for our mind, body or soul. Like, I really just wanted to, like, find. I wanted to make the most. That's where I wanted to make the most of my time. It was just like, I want to do something that is edifying in some way, whether it's emotional, you know, educational, whatever it is, spiritual, mentally. I just wanted, I wanted it to. I wanted, I wanted, I want to be different, bro. Like, and I don't want to be different from who, who I am. I want to be, I just want to be better than what I am. I want to be a Better version of myself. [01:16:06] Speaker A: You want to be more in line with who you are and not this, like, deviation that's been caused by your life experience, you know? [01:16:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, honestly, I could watch Cops all day. [01:16:24] Speaker A: I can't shut up about it. I'm telling you. [01:16:29] Speaker B: However. Well, now I got this, this super box. It's 24 7. There's no commercials. It's just. [01:16:35] Speaker A: I believe that's funny if I don't watch it all day. [01:16:38] Speaker B: The worst thing about Cops before was they had commercials. You only get three kind of like, scenarios or. [01:16:45] Speaker A: I thought, you know what? I always thought that the worst part was all of the brutality. But you're right, it's the commercials. [01:16:53] Speaker B: It is the commercials. But I can literally make myself like, tick tock. I mean, like, I could go on tick tock for hours. Like, you don't realize hours pass and then you're like, holy crap. Like, so I'll go through like 10 tick tocks and then I'm like, done. Like, I, I, like, I'm wasting time. I'm wasting time. And so I started downloading little. Those, those. What do they call, like, micro learning apps. [01:17:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:24] Speaker B: Where if you got 10 minutes, like, learn something new about this subject. And so I just started doing that again. I just want to make the most of it. I don't want to sit there and just. I want to be able to walk away with something instead of like someone saying, what'd you do the last hour? Watch dog videos and cat videos and some people getting beat up? You know what I mean? Like, I want, I want it to be different. So I don't know, man. I mean, that's kind of where I'm at right now. Doesn't mean I'll always be there. But right now, like, I've always. That's what I was guilty of. At the churches we attended, as in that timeframe of my life, I've always wanted knowledge. And I worshiped the knowledge of Christ over Christ himself. Because the knowledge of Christ came with certain powers and certain. [01:18:17] Speaker A: Status. [01:18:18] Speaker B: Certain stat. Yes, Certain status in the church. Oh, this guy's knowledgeable. Must be saved. Must be. Dude. I worshiped the knowledge of Christ for so long. I. I mean, I wrote a blog. Yeah, it was a blog. It was a blog and I wrote a blog about it because that was kind of like my journaling back in the day. I started a blog. And funny. Funny enough, also nameless in that blog. And this blog was probably, probably a good 15 years ago, but I still have it. But it was. I Can't even tell you because the play on the word has my real name in it. And so does it start with bond? No, no, no, no, no, no. But it's very surreal, you know. And so I would write that I think I'm guilty of worshiping the knowledge of Christ and not actually worshiping Christ like I wanted. I just wanted to consume knowledge of Christianity and not necessarily didn't even know how to apply it, you know. And it's coming to me now on actually how to apply certain things, like the actual not letting my members be rule over me and me being rule over my members of my body. Like, that's the application. The. The overall study of it. I get the application. I did not. You know, I mean, like, I could tell you how to apply it. I could tell you how it works, but to actually be able to walk it out was something that was foreign to me, you know? [01:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's definitely. Which, Go ahead. [01:20:05] Speaker B: No, no, no, you go. [01:20:07] Speaker A: It's definitely something that started to help, I think, both of us with. Because that was a guy with a lot of head knowledge and then like, actual practical theology of like, how to actually fight sin in your daily life. [01:20:28] Speaker B: And dude, telling you to fight sin, pray and read. Yeah, like, give yourself a goal on why you're trying to read. For me, my daughter was like, lead my youth, my young adults group. And I was like, all right, bet. Got it. Give me chapter six of Ephesians. I'm tearing it up. I spent probably six weeks studying the Ephesians six and through that was a lot of prayer because I didn't want to let my daughter down. I'm her dad. I'm teaching her group. I didn't want to let her down, like. And it just sparked something to me where I was. And plus being laid off. I'm praying about a lot more now. I got a lot of free time to pray. And I just started praying and just not rushing my prayer, just saying, I'm going to pray until I'm done praying, you know, Like, I have nothing else to do right now, but, you know, why not? And when thoughts of were when females called up, it was easier to say, no, no, I'm good. Like, I'm busy tonight. And then in those moments when I did have a weak moment, the Lord delivered, like, for reals. Like, the Lord would have something happen where, you know, me and the female, either we met up and then something happened where she had to go, or we were supposed to meet up and then she had something happen where she couldn't make it. Like, the Lord was so faithful in that, you know, and it was just like, thank you, you know, like, I got past that urge. The moment's gone. I got past the urge and I can now see it from this side of the. Of the. Of the. The fence and say, thank you, Lord, for not letting that happen. Yeah. [01:22:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I was thinking about today, and this is totally pointless to bring up and I am gonna bleep his name. I might cut this whole part out, but I was thinking about. [01:22:23] Speaker B: No, you shouldn't, because I got more to add to it. [01:22:24] Speaker A: Okay, cool. I was thinking about the. You know, how he was caught out in Claremont at that hotel and something so funny came to mind and I was like, I've got to mention this on the podcast. And then it's just gone. Like, I remember it was specifically about that event. And, yeah, I just got nothing. [01:22:53] Speaker B: Well, let me remind you about that event, because that event was. [01:22:57] Speaker A: Oh, I know what it was. [01:22:58] Speaker B: He borrowed. [01:22:59] Speaker A: I know what it was. [01:23:00] Speaker B: Go for it. [01:23:01] Speaker A: He. This is inside baseball. No one's gonna care about this. But he found out because my dad is just a blabber mouth. So my dad, the first time my dad talked to him on the phone after all that, he was like, hey, heard as they found you out in an opium den somewhere. Just blew it. And he got mad at me and accused me of telling my parents everything that happened. And you got in his face and were like, yeah, those are his parents. He can tell them whatever. He should be able to talk to them, whatever, yada, yada. I never told them anything. Was going up to every single person in the courtyard at Reverence that Sunday, saying, have you seen? He's been missing for three days. Have you seen? He's been missing for three days. My parents knew everything that was going on on long before I had a chance to tell them, and I got blamed for that. Then I was not told about the amphetamine usage. I heard him. I heard the unmistakable sound of a meth pipe being lit up in his room, and I just let it go. I hung out with him the rest of the night. He was falling asleep on a bench, you know, at a park we were hanging out at. It was weird. I told you later. I was like, he really can never hear this. Luckily, he's basically Amish and he'll never hear this. But I told you later, like, hey, I'm pretty sure he's doing some kind of drugs because I heard the sound of a meth pipe or a crack Pipe. But, like, specifically a meth pipe. And you were like, okay, yeah, I'll level with you. Like, yeah, he's doing stuff. Stuff. And. And I gotta tell him that I know about this because I. I have to use this to, like, tell him, you know, that he needs to stop. But, like, you only heard him, so I think I'm gonna say that you went upstairs to get a pen and saw him doing it. Okay, so I. [01:25:08] Speaker B: Did I tell you. Did I ever tell you how I approached him with that? [01:25:11] Speaker A: I think so, but I told you, hey, don't say that, because I did not see him doing anything. I just heard it. And then, like, it was like months later or maybe a year later. I was like, you know, I mean, like, yeah, I never, like, knew for sure, but I figured he was. And you were like, I thought you went upstairs to get a pen from him and you saw him doing it. I was like, no, you made that up. I told you not to say that. [01:25:38] Speaker B: No. So I knew something was up and I went into his house because again, he gave me full access. Like, I knew how to get into his house just in case I ever needed to get into it. Whether it was garage, front door, I knew where the keys were hidden. So I went upstairs and he was butt ass naked on his bed, just naked. And I was like, okay, mind you, I didn't know he was dating half this time. And so I went to his room one day when he was gone, and I forget what. I was there, I had to go there to pick up something. But I stumbled across his crack pipes and envelopes. And so I took them with me. And I was at a gas station and a cop pulled up next to me and I said, hey, look, I remember this. [01:26:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:33] Speaker B: And I said, my friend is doing drugs. I have his pipes on me. What should I do with them? And he was like, well, if I take them, I have to write it that you gave them to me, therefore you get charged with them, so just break them and throw them away. And so I did that. But I did call him and told him, hey, this is a situation. You have to step down. You can no longer do lead a Bible study for us. And he was like, well, why? And I was like, biblically, you can't. You know damn well you cannot do that. [01:27:03] Speaker A: This. [01:27:04] Speaker B: Like, you just can't. We talked recently that that dude's got a lot of problems right now. Like, he is really struggling with kidney stones. He's really struggling with health. Like, he is. He is not in. Good, good, good. Health right now, man. He's. I don't think he's even working right now. [01:27:22] Speaker A: I don't know that. I think I did know that. I think he. [01:27:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Great guy. Cocaine's a hell of a drug, man. [01:27:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Was it crack or was it meth? I always thought it was meth. [01:27:46] Speaker B: Hold up one second, man. [01:27:47] Speaker A: I remember. Do you actually need a second, or can I keep talking? [01:27:53] Speaker B: No, you can totally keep talking. [01:27:55] Speaker A: I remember when your uncle came to work at our house, and I. [01:27:59] Speaker B: You know, his. [01:28:01] Speaker A: His reputation precedes him, and I was like, I really don't want this guy around my dad. Like, when my dad's trying to get sober and not specifically do speed anymore, you know? And I was like. I was all worried about him being around my dad. Never once thought about him being around. I never thought about that being a problem, but I think that was the catalyst. It wasn't long after they worked together. [01:28:29] Speaker B: So meth is. Is. Is methamphetamine. [01:28:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:28:37] Speaker B: And it's. It's. It's where crack is, like cocaine. It's. It's baked. Yeah, it's cocaine. Yeah. And they kind of bake out the impurities of it, so, like, it hits you quicker, harder, and I. I almost think meth is, like. And I could be wrong again. I don't know. I almost think it's like a. What's the word I'm looking for? A synthetic. [01:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It's like chemicals. Like, they make it with sudafil. [01:29:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:29:09] Speaker A: And aluminum foil and shit like that. [01:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So I think his. I think his was meth. [01:29:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:21] Speaker B: His look more glassier than. Than brown. Sugary, if you will, you know, So. I don't know, man, but I just know, like, you know, and that cocaine is a hell of a drug. It's a Rick James quote. I thought you might understand it, but you did not pick up on it. I'm sure our audience might. Or, I mean, what do you call an audience of one, you know, like, I'm sure. [01:29:49] Speaker A: Body Shout Out. Body Shout Out. Hey, we should just. [01:29:54] Speaker B: This one's to you, Boston. [01:29:56] Speaker A: We should just call our. We should just call our podcast listeners. Bonnie, let's just rename. [01:30:06] Speaker B: I don't think she even listens to it, but I know Boston does. [01:30:09] Speaker A: I assumed that was the sister that you turned onto the podcast, but you've got three, right? [01:30:15] Speaker B: I went. I was. [01:30:16] Speaker A: I just assumed it was. [01:30:17] Speaker B: I do. I've sent it to a couple. I don't think they really listen to it. Boston listens to It. She. She'll send me text messages commenting on it. That's where she told me. She's like, I. Whoever that your. Your co host is. Like, I love that guy. Like, he is. He's awesome. So, yeah, I'm excited about next week. I. I am so amped to talk about the state of the church. A lot of my theory, a lot of what I'm going to say comes from. But a lot of what I'm going to say has always pissed me off when it comes to the church. Like, it just. It just irks me, you know? And so I'm excited about that. Yeah, man. [01:31:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Kind of interested. I'm kind of curious on what you're gonna say about it as well. [01:31:13] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. No idea. No idea what I'm gonna say. No, I've got. [01:31:19] Speaker B: Do you attend church? Nor do you attend church currently? [01:31:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:31:25] Speaker B: You have a church home that you go to every Sunday? [01:31:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. [01:31:30] Speaker B: Is your wife a believer? Okay, cool. What about your kid? [01:31:38] Speaker A: What is this? I. Tell me. [01:31:43] Speaker B: I just want to know if you're living with a bunch of pagans. [01:31:45] Speaker A: No, she only acts like a pagan. She's not. She. She used to be a children's pastor, believe it or not. She's got a master's in philosophy and theology. [01:31:57] Speaker B: Oh, what? Yeah, Philosophy anthology. Like two different masters? [01:32:01] Speaker A: No, just one. [01:32:03] Speaker B: How do you group those together? [01:32:04] Speaker A: I don't know. Talbot Seminary. [01:32:07] Speaker B: Oh, I like Talbot. [01:32:10] Speaker A: Yeah? Yeah, pretty good. Solid. Oliver Crisp teaches there. Man, I was gonna say something. I was like, I probably shouldn't say it. It'll get us into like a 15 minute thing. [01:32:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I'm cool with that. [01:32:25] Speaker A: Keep going. I. I was. I keep a prayer list in my monthly. So I do like a monthly spread for my journal where I'll write down things that happen that month. And just certain things I'm tracking throughout the month. Distinctive. From my daily page, I have a prayer list divided up in quadrants. One of those quadrants is salvation. And I put my daughter on the salvation list. And I don't know how to feel about that. I'm like, I am praying that one day she trusts in Christ and believes in him and lives her life for him. But, you know, and I'm not a paedo Baptist anymore, so I'm kind of of two minds about it. I'm like, I'm gonna raise her in Christ as if she's a Christian. So, you know, my prayer is that there's never a day where she can look back and say, like, oh, I Got saved at that point because I was clearly not a believer before that point. But, you know, I think it's also something that, you know, not being a pedobaptist, I don't believe that kids are just born Christian into Christian households. So it is kind of something we need to pray for. What do you think about that? [01:33:46] Speaker B: Are you asking me to pray for your daughter? [01:33:49] Speaker A: No. [01:33:50] Speaker B: Or for Asia? [01:33:52] Speaker A: What? [01:33:55] Speaker B: You put your daughter in the Asia. [01:33:56] Speaker A: Group, the salvation group. [01:34:01] Speaker B: What is South. Oh, salvation. [01:34:04] Speaker A: Did you really, like, misunderstanding with me this whole time? [01:34:08] Speaker B: Dude, I thought you said South Asian. And I was like, okay, maybe they're not saved. This whole time, I'm like, what does South Asia got to do with his daughter? [01:34:23] Speaker A: Like, okay, so the name of this podcast now is the South Asian List. [01:34:31] Speaker B: So, yeah, I think. I think. Praying for your children. I pray for my daughter's salvation every day. All. All four of them. I pray that. Yeah, I pray for their salvation. I really did, man. I was like, wow, I pray for my daughter's salvation every day. Like, all of them, you know, not so much because she's actively walking hers out, but I. Who? [01:34:57] Speaker A: I got it. I'll edit. [01:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah, but more or less the other three, you know, like number four, she's eight. She doesn't really like going to church, but she'll go with me. She sits on my lap. She goes to adult services. I want to go to kids service. [01:35:10] Speaker A: Do you talk about, like, the other. The Bible and stuff with her? Is that, like, a topic around the house? [01:35:16] Speaker B: I. I don't. I try to. I. I started a thing recently that I haven't upheld to. To be honest, but it was like, hey, if you want to go on your tablet after school, we got to sit and read a proverb, you know, and. And kind of talk about it. But, dude, you get to proverb. I don't know, two or three. And it's talking about her feet lead to hell. And you're. You're trying to explain. You know, you're trying to explain, like. [01:35:40] Speaker A: Start with chapter 10. [01:35:43] Speaker B: Yeah, so. But I, you know, like, for a while, we were reading the action Bible at bedtime, you know, and so I do try. I don't try. I don't try. I don't try hard enough. I don't. I don't fall. I don't have. I haven't applied myself in that area, but it bothers me that I don't. You know, why don't. [01:36:05] Speaker A: Why don't you just ask? [01:36:06] Speaker B: The crazy thing is, is she knows. Go ahead, she says Jesus is God. She knows everything we have is from Jesus. Like, she states all that. She just don't really like going to church. Which after I share next week on my last week church experience, you'd probably understand why she don't like going to church. Like, man, I wish we could get into it right now. Like, I'm so annoyed with the current church. State of the church. [01:36:33] Speaker A: Save it. Save it. Hey, fun fact. [01:36:36] Speaker B: I'm going to save it. [01:36:37] Speaker A: I bought an Action Bible. I think I bought two or three Action Bibles when I was a youth leader and gave them out as prizes in the youth group. And I'm pretty sure number two won one of those action Bibles. Is that the same action Bible or is this a new one? [01:36:54] Speaker B: No, it's not. [01:36:55] Speaker A: That would have been cool. [01:36:56] Speaker B: No, I bought a new one. Yeah, it would have been. I should have lied to you. [01:37:00] Speaker A: I. Oh, I thought, I thought I had some lasting impression on the kids in that youth group. I thought what I did mattered. That's okay. [01:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah. You know your Nick, you know, your nickname. You, you, you have a lasting impression. Not. [01:37:12] Speaker A: Maybe not the one I wanted. [01:37:16] Speaker B: So, yes, praying for your daughter's salvation. I'll add her to my list for sure. [01:37:23] Speaker A: Okay. But, yeah, I mean, but you think that that's fair? Like you. Because I'm kind of of two minds. Because like I, I used to be like a covenantalist, like Paedo Baptist. So, like, I kind of believed that like when Christian parents have a kid, that kid is Christian until proven otherwise. So, like, they're going to be baptized as a baby and God willing, they are never going to remember a day where they weren't following Christ. But now as I'm no longer a paedo Baptist, now I guess I have to believe that she is damned unless something changes, you know. [01:38:06] Speaker B: You know, I did a TikTok on this the other day because we had a guy commit suicide in our men's group. And the TikTok went, when you stand before God to be judged, it's not the last thing you did. You're not judged by the last thing you did before you died. You're judged by the last thing Christ did before he died. And I feel, you know, we've had this conversation. In fact, Red Truck guy was the gentleman who introduced me to this thought because we were sitting there and somebody said, we were talking about it at some event and somebody was like, so where do you. Where do babies go when they die? Where do you think babies go when they die? Because they can't profess Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, so do they go to hell? And his response was straight to hell. Well, his response was profound. His response was profound in the sense that whether it's suicide or an infant death, I'm going to rely on the character and personality of Jesus and God. Like I'm going to. I'm going to fall back on. God is righteous, God is good, God is just. And so I serve a good God. What takes place is not up to me. I just know God's character. And so for me, if I was to commit suicide as a believer, I honestly firmly believe when I stand before God, he is going to definitely have tears in his eyes. Knowing what I was struggling with, tears in his eyes, knowing what he had in store for me to come, but also knowing that I just. I felt. I couldn't. I felt in some way I couldn't go on anymore. I really. I don't think I'm going to be condemned to hell. However, I don't want to test that theory. And then. So I feel the same way with babies. However, I do believe. Going back to mindset, I have a lot of pictures of the day of my baptism because my parents are Catholic. They were. I have a lot of pictures of me being, like, I don't know, two or three. I don't remember the day in my memory, but I have all these pictures. And I've seen these pictures growing up. And so I always considered myself before becoming a Christian, agnostic in the sense that I didn't know what Jesus did for me. I knew about all these saints having special powers, whether you bury them in your front yard, wear them on your dashboard, wear them around your neck or whatever. But I considered myself agnostic in the most sense because I knew there was a higher power. I just. I didn't know him intimately. And so. But I think that might have stemmed from possibly seeing all these pictures of my baptism growing up. So I'm not against you doing a dedication because we did dedications for number two and three. [01:41:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:20] Speaker B: At. At. Wow. What was that? Church on the hill? Man with the big cross. No, Big Cross in the Mission Hills. Mission Hills. Before it became the bridge. And. Yeah, and we did. We did. No, we did do. We did do 2 and 2 and 3 at Calvary Chapel. [01:41:45] Speaker A: That's what I thought. [01:41:51] Speaker B: Or maybe. Maybe we didn't. Maybe we did at Mission Hills. And David Anthony just sang. I remember David Anthony being not David Anthony. Who was the weird one? [01:42:02] Speaker A: David Anthony. No, I love that guy. [01:42:07] Speaker B: The Other weird one, he was really intelligent. [01:42:10] Speaker A: Steve Carr. [01:42:10] Speaker B: And his wife was like, huh? [01:42:12] Speaker A: Steve Carr. [01:42:13] Speaker B: No, his wife had red hair. [01:42:18] Speaker A: Really intelligent. Intelligent. [01:42:19] Speaker B: They like to sing. Oh, gosh. [01:42:28] Speaker A: Terrible podcast. [01:42:29] Speaker B: He gave my wife a guitar. He gave my wife a guitar. [01:42:33] Speaker A: Wife a guitar. I remember that guitar. [01:42:36] Speaker B: He. I want to say he taught at the Bible college. [01:42:39] Speaker A: Taught at the Bible college. [01:42:42] Speaker B: And he was a pastor in Murrieta. Wasn't a pastor. [01:42:46] Speaker A: Oh, that changes everything. Tony. [01:42:50] Speaker B: Tony Romero. Yeah. Maybe he worked. [01:42:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:42:54] Speaker B: Worked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. [01:42:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Love that guy. [01:42:59] Speaker B: My ninja. So, yeah, I remember him singing there. I remember him singing at their dedication. So I don't know if that was at Mission Hills or if it was a Calvary. [01:43:10] Speaker A: It would have been Calvary. [01:43:11] Speaker B: He was. [01:43:11] Speaker A: He was going to Calvary long before you guys. [01:43:15] Speaker B: Yeah, no, but I mean, I. I remember asking him to sing. So I don't know if it was me asking him to sing at Mission Hills or sing at Calvary. Might have been Calvary if you were there. So. But I think moments like that, that sit with the kids, they. I think it's something they can somewhat kind of pull from memory. I mean. [01:43:37] Speaker A: I mean, that's. [01:43:38] Speaker B: Two and three were old enough. [01:43:39] Speaker A: Part of the idea of infant baptism is that you look back on that as, like, your entrance into the covenant. But, yeah, dedications are different because, like, the whole idea behind a dedication is more like how we would think of it is like, we are choosing as parents to raise them in the Lord, and we're hoping that they believe one day or that they always believe. Pedobaptism is like, these are members of the New Covenant by birth. [01:44:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And I get that. That's. That's. There's no choice in it. There's no. [01:44:16] Speaker A: Well, they can turn away. They can. They can choose to not believe one day, but until proven otherwise, they're believers. [01:44:25] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know if I have a thought on that. [01:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I can probably. [01:44:29] Speaker B: I believe, for me, baptism is a choice, is a. Yeah, well, choice one makes to. [01:44:35] Speaker A: So this is. Their argument would be Colossians 1, because they compare baptism to circumcision. And in the Old Covenant, circumcision was not up to the kid. It was just anyone who was a part of this covenant with Israel and God gets circumcised, but it's not circumcision that's compared to baptism. It's circumcision of the heart in chapter one of Colossians. So that's kind of Where I don't. You know? Yeah. That's why I've got up. [01:45:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Give me baptism all day over Circumcision as a 30 year old slave that the covenant just hit. You're gonna, you're gonna take that pumice stone and what? You're gonna, you're gonna. [01:45:19] Speaker A: You know one of my favorite, my favorite stories, I mean, I'm going through the Old Testament and I'm summarizing every paragraph in my journal margin so that I'm paying more attention. So many stories I love, but the one that I just can't get over. I think it's David's daughter. No, it's someone else's daughter. I don't remember who, but his daughter is raped by a. A foreigner. When they, when Israel comes into the land and takes this land over, she's raped and the guy wants to marry her to make up for the rape. And he says absolutely. Yeah, marrier. But here's the deal. We're Israelites, so you and all the men have to get circumcised. So they circumcise all the men, and then while they're recovering from circumcision, they go in and them all up, they just kill them all. I don't. It must have been Moses. I can't remember who, Whose daughter it was. [01:46:20] Speaker B: No, because Abraham. [01:46:23] Speaker A: It might have been Abraham. [01:46:27] Speaker B: Abraham was where the covenant, the, the, the circumcision covenant started. [01:46:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Let me ask chat GBT who. [01:46:37] Speaker B: That's hilarious. I know what you're talking about, though. I'm familiar with that story. I just don't know who it is as well. My garage is so smoky, bro. [01:46:53] Speaker A: Are you. Are you done. [01:46:57] Speaker B: With the cigar? Yeah, it's, it's. It's Jacob burning my eyes. [01:47:01] Speaker A: It was. It was Jacob's daughter. And then Simeon and Levi, his sons, were the ones that teamed up with him and killed everybody. [01:47:12] Speaker B: I take, I take my. I, I really. I try and suggest this to most men I meet to be more like Jacob. You know what I mean? Be more holy and less h. [01:47:31] Speaker A: Well, on that note, I've been Jimmy Bean, you've been Johnny Black, and this has been pseudonyms. Good night, everybody. [01:47:44] Speaker B: Awesome. Until next week, guys. Have a good night.