035: A Lesson in Goal-Setting

Episode 35 October 31, 2025 01:46:54
035: A Lesson in Goal-Setting
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035: A Lesson in Goal-Setting

Oct 31 2025 | 01:46:54

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Rob and Bruce talk about a zombie apocalypse scenario

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: What's the news to the world this week? [00:00:02] Speaker B: Oh, I got a fun one for you. [00:00:06] Speaker A: Okay. So fun in a real fun way. [00:00:10] Speaker B: Yeah. So Miami says, hey, I don't know if you know this, but Miami's husband is in town. Cool. Okay. So I didn't know if you knew that already. So her husband's. [00:00:24] Speaker A: I did not know that. [00:00:26] Speaker B: And he basically texts her and he's like, hey, I'm gonna be in town anywhere from two weeks to two months. I took a contract, like, like, just so you know. And he's like, can I stay at the house? She's like, nah, you can't stay at the fucking house. Like, no. He's like, why not? She's like, because, like, no, dude, cuz we fucking. Yeah. So he arrives Friday, I leave Friday night. Or he arrives Saturday, I leave Saturday afternoon. Like, I'm not sticking around for this. Fucking not gonna do it. So Sunday morning, he shows up early in the morning and shows up. He walks in, he's like, hey. He like, he wakes her up. That's how early he shows up, wakes her up. He's like, hey, did you change the lock on. On like the code on the garage door? And she's like, yeah. He's like, looking around and he's like, did you change the locks? She's like, yeah. He's like, why? She's like, for my safety. And so, you know, she's like, you do drugs? [00:01:32] Speaker A: Did you start using Magnum condoms? [00:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah. So, so then like, they go run errands and stuff and. And she breaks it to him, like, hey, we're done. I'm, I'm filing. Like, let's just do this, yada yada. [00:01:49] Speaker A: I didn't know they were still married. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah, there. Because he's in the military. She was going the route of having to deal with the military aspect of it, and the guy was like, oh, you got to do this first. So then she does that paperwork. And he's like, hey, I need your. Your like, case number. And she's like, what are you talking about? You said I had to do this first. He's like, nah, I never said that. So she's like, dude, I would have filed a long time ago. So then she goes and files. So she gives him the papers while he's there. He ends up getting him notarized and, like, signed. The next day she runs him into the courthouse, you know, files. So fast forward last weekend, she's like, hey. Like, he's on call. He won't be here. You know, like, he's on call Saturday, so he can't be around. So I'm like, all right. We spend the night, we in the shower, enjoying ourselves. The next morning, we get out. She's like, oh, my gosh. Like, he's at the front door. It's on her ring camera. She's like, he's at the front door. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Oh. Oh, my God. You are so gonna die. Exactly how you think you're gonna die. [00:02:56] Speaker B: So I'm like, like, what? Like, what should I do? She's like, get in the closet. And I'm like, no, I get in the closet. [00:03:03] Speaker A: I am so on edge right now. I know you're alive, but, like, I am so excited for this story. [00:03:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So I get in the closet, and I'm like, dude, like, what am I gonna do? [00:03:16] Speaker A: Like, I was just sitting here for me to get in the closet. [00:03:21] Speaker B: So, like, I'm watching. I'm looking. I'm behind the door, looking out the crack, you know? And I'm not, like, right up behind the door, but she's got a big closet, so, like, I'm sitting in it. But, like, I'm hidden by the door, and I can see through the crack. So I'm just watching, and I'm like, well, what are you gonna do if he comes in? You know? Like, what. What are you gonna do? You know? So I'm like, all right, well, just hit him and run. Like, that's what you do when you're hiding in the closet. You don't walk out. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Like, oh, the element of surprise. [00:03:52] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. You don't walk out. Like, hey, what's up, man? You know? So I was like, the. Am I doing in the closet? So she comes in. She's like, he. He. First thing he asked is like, whose truck is that? You know? Like, he knows you're here. And I'm like, I'm thinking they're in the living room this whole time. So I'm, like, trying to be quiet. I turn my phone on silent. I'm texting. Like, I'm texting a guy from work who knows about the set. I'm like, dude, like, I'm hiding in a closet. He's in the living room, like. And he's like, are you. Are you telling me, like, is this, like, from your book or is this real? And I'm like, dude, I should probably. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Spy novel, right? [00:04:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm like, oh, maybe I should mute my messages. I don't know. You know? Maybe I trunk my phone. I'm like, what if she tries to text Me. So, like, I wrap my phone up in the towel, and I'm trying to turn it back on, and I'm like, you know what, dude? So then she comes in. She's like, he's gone. And I'm like, I'm not hiding in a closet ever again. And she's like, why are you in the closet? And I'm like, because you told me. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Go in the closet. [00:04:51] Speaker B: She was like, no, I didn't tell you. I was like, yeah, you did. You told me, hide in the closet. You said, stay in the closet. And I said, you know, I didn't tell you that. [00:05:01] Speaker A: I thought. I thought you went in there because you're a. Yeah, she just likes you. She totally chops you. [00:05:07] Speaker B: So I'm like, I'm just letting you know right now, I'm never hiding in the closet again. If he comes over, he's gonna see me wherever I'm at. If he comes in the house, I'm gonna talk to him like a regular human being. Like, dude, don't put me in the middle of your. I didn't choose this life. I'm dating her. It's between you guys. I get it. You're going through the phase of being separated. This ain't gonna save your marriage, though, bro. Like, come on. Like, I'm gonna talk to him like I would any other dude. And if he wants to get froggy and jump, well, you know, jump. You know? Like, I'm ready to take my day out on somebody. [00:05:43] Speaker A: Dude, could you take this guy? [00:05:48] Speaker B: I feel like you take anybody, bro. Even if I can't. Well, I mean, even if I can't, dude, I. I, like, this is how I go down. Even if I didn't win, you'll never want to fight me again. So you might beat me, but you'll never want to do it again? Yeah, like, you're gonna have to do something to stop me. Like, you're gonna have to break something, like, make me pass out or something. Yeah. You know. [00:06:16] Speaker A: So how separated are they? Was, like, think. Did he, like, come back to a fully functioning marriage and then get hit with divorced papers? [00:06:26] Speaker B: Like, well, like. So the last time they were intimate was over a year and a half ago. Okay. They slept in separate rooms for over a year. He picked up and he packed up and left in March, never to return. This is his first time back. He's got his own place in Florida. He's got a girlfriend who's written. [00:06:48] Speaker A: Okay, so this wasn't crazy. [00:06:50] Speaker B: No, he. He's. And I told her I Told her exactly what was going to happen. She said, I told him I'm filing for divorce. And then she goes, he's got a job offer in the area. And I said, this is his, this is his last ditch effort to try and not get divorced. That's what this is. I said, you're his first stop. Did you think so? I said, damn right you're his first stop. He's going to come here and try and save your marriage. And I was like, if you want me to step out, that's cool. I get it. Like, it would suck, but I get it. I said, but on the flip side, if you're like wanting to pursue us, this is your chance to make a stand, like to show him, to show him in your action that, hey, look, I don't need you in my life anymore. Like, we're done. First thing she does, hey, I needed help taking the dogs to the vet, so me and him took the dogs to the vet. And I'm like, do you think you're possibly giving him the wrong message? She's like, no, you know, it just works out. I can't take them both. They're a hassle. This and that. And I'm like, that's weird, cuz, like, she's like, I already have this plan, like to take them to the vet today. I didn't expect him to come this early, so he's just gonna help me. And I'm like, as your partner, current partner, I thought I would at least known about the vet call. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't even know. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. I thought this, like, I felt like this was like last minute, but. [00:08:12] Speaker A: And so like, listen to this podcast. [00:08:14] Speaker B: No, because she asked me today. I brought it up. I said, I talked to our mutual friend Jammy. I said, I talked to our mutual friend Jammy. She knows my friend Jammy. And they, they hit it off. And he's cool. And so I was like, oh, I was talking to him. I was catching him up. And yeah, I told him, you know, I was catching him up on the last couple weeks. So my husband came in town, told him, you know, like, you guys went and did the dog thing, this and that, you know, and, you know, he came over and this and that. I hid in the closet. And she. And I was like, it was funny because he said the same thing about the dog thing that I said. Like, that's, that's kind of weird. She's like, why is it so weird? I'm like, because that's like everyday errands that you Run with your. With your partner. And the fact that you utilized him to help you is not making the statement of, I don't need you, I'm independent. You're making the statement of, I'm glad you're here because I need the. I need the help. That's the statement you're making. She's like, wow, this really bothered you. I was like, I'm gonna tell you it. It bothered me in the moment. I said, but it didn't bother me. It didn't bother me after I thought about your character. I said, because your character is what reassures me. I know you're not gonna do anything. I said, but in when I responded to you, if you told me like, oh, we're running the dogs to the vet, my message back to you was, do you think you're giving him the wrong message? Because that's how I would take it. Like, oh, cool, she needs my help. Like, cool. We're jumping back in the groove of things, you know, like. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Like an old pair of shoes. [00:09:49] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So to me, it was just kind of like, roadhead. Yeah. You know? And so she's like, that must have really bothered you. Like, that must have really bothered you. I said, no, I didn't bother me. After I realized who you are, I was like, but it definitely could have sent him the wrong message because, yeah, you're not making the statement of, I don't need you anymore. You know, Like, I got this. I don't need a man. I'm independent. You made the statement of, glad you're here, need the help. [00:10:21] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. Get it. But I don't get it. I don't get keeping you in the dark about that. Not that that's what she did, but like, not mentioning it to you or asking you for help. That's odd. Yeah, I guess the whole thing's odd. I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. But yeah, taking. Taking him with her was weird. Maybe just short sighted maybe. [00:10:52] Speaker B: But yeah, I don't know. She doesn't see, like, anything's wrong with it. And I'm like, I personally don't either because I know your character. However, yeah, sure, in the midst of it, I was like, my knee jerk reaction was like, that's weird, you know? [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's. That's totally fair. I don't, I don't think, like, she's up to anything. I think it was. [00:11:14] Speaker B: No, I don't either. That's why I keep trying to tell her Like, I don't think you're up to anything. I really don't. I was like, it's not like. It's not like I don't trust you. I'm like, so. But yeah. Did you get the job? You did, right. [00:11:28] Speaker A: Buddy? I got a job offer. That's as far as we've gotten, so. Because guess what? [00:11:39] Speaker B: What? [00:11:40] Speaker A: They will not proceed with my onboarding process until I present to them a physical copy of my Social Security card, which should not be a problem because it's been in my safe for five years, until the morning I had to go to hr, and when I looked in the safe, it wasn't fucking in there. [00:12:06] Speaker B: No shit. [00:12:06] Speaker A: So. So that's where we're at. I've ordered a new one, but we're just waiting. So I don't know if they'll hold the job for me, but. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Well, let me know how that goes. You know me, I'm always here. [00:12:25] Speaker A: Always waiting. [00:12:25] Speaker B: All right, well. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Waiting to strike with a. With a job offer. [00:12:31] Speaker B: So you're. You're just. You're just kicking at home. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Yep. [00:12:35] Speaker B: Right on. We ain't got no topics. Just. Just chilling at home, just. Right on, man. I'm pretty sure you caught up on your sleep. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm catching up on horror movies. [00:12:54] Speaker B: You know, actually, I've kind of. I've kind of overslept a lot, you know, just. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah, my, like. You know how your, like, back hurts when you sleep too long? Sucks. They don't tell you about that. [00:13:08] Speaker B: And you know what, dude? If they hold it for you, it's meant to be. If not, also meant to be. [00:13:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I should probably get rolling with, like, applying other places just in case we get through the next two weeks and that job's not actually there for me, but I've just kind of been playing this whole thing by ear. [00:13:30] Speaker B: You know, it's weird because, like, you could totally make a Social Security card probably, right? [00:13:37] Speaker A: I was thinking about that because, I mean, all the information is going to check out. It's my Social Security number, which, by the way, I've never had to present the card to get a job. [00:13:47] Speaker B: I've always like, I can make you one tomorrow, bro. [00:13:51] Speaker A: Maybe we should try that. I mean, like, as long as it looks exactly like it, everything's going to check out. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:01] Speaker A: Like, what's the harm? [00:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah, all you gotta do is scan someone's. I keep my social. Scan it in, take the Photoshop, blend the areas of the numbers and the fucking. And then not blend. It's clone. Clone Those areas and then. Yeah, take type and write in your info. [00:14:24] Speaker A: Yeah, and I mean, she's just scanning it. That's all they need to do with it. They have all my information already. They've scanned my driver's license. [00:14:31] Speaker B: You could tell her that you could scan. Send her a scanned version and send it to her tomorrow via PDF. [00:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd want her to sign off on that before I went and did it, but I was looking everywhere for a sc. I know I took a picture of it at some point, so I was looking everywhere for that picture, just hoping I could just send her the picture. Nope. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Who'd you send the picture to? [00:14:58] Speaker A: I may have texted it to my wife, but I assumed it was just in my Google Drive. It's not in there, dude. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Open your text messages to your Google wife, hit search and it'll give you a department of just images. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I searched the number, which it should. Give me the images with that number in it. [00:15:19] Speaker B: No, no, dude, go to search again, Hit search. It'll break it up with links, images, addresses, and then you'll be able to just search all your images you've ever sent to your wife. As long as you haven't switched phones. [00:15:37] Speaker A: I have, but it's a. It's a third party app, so it probably keeps my info. [00:15:44] Speaker B: I was. I was going strictly Google messages. [00:15:48] Speaker A: Ooh. But did I send it with my iPhone? [00:15:54] Speaker B: You were one of them once. It's cool you're here. [00:15:58] Speaker A: Was until 2021, literally. The only reason is cuz it's too expensive. I would still have an iPhone now. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Yeah, you would, nerd. Hey, hey. [00:16:09] Speaker A: It's not different enough, nerd. [00:16:15] Speaker B: I'll send you this phone if I get a new phone. Waiting for the new phone to come out in January. [00:16:20] Speaker A: All right, you've been saying that. [00:16:25] Speaker B: I'm waiting for the 26 to arrive. I can't do the 25. Why? A lot of it was just cheaply made. Like the camera is not the best. The case itself was a little more flimsy. The new ones. New ones, new ones. Got it all. Oh, found it. [00:16:51] Speaker A: That's my d. That's my daughter's Social Security card. Yeah, I don't think it would be on here, cuz I think it was when we bought the house that I would have sent her a picture of it. And I'm not even positive I texted her. I. I might have just saved it to my drive so that I could upload it to DocuSign. [00:17:10] Speaker B: I tried. [00:17:11] Speaker A: All right, well, this is a good idea. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Welcome to Pseudonyms, everyone. It is October 14th. You should be getting the October 5th one pretty soon. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Did we do an October 5th one? [00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah, because I said the date in it. It was the. The one you just sent me today. [00:17:32] Speaker A: Oh, really? Okay. That was more recent than I thought. So skip the week. Because I was sick. [00:17:41] Speaker B: Then it didn't work with my night. I had one night with her, and I was like, cool, I'll just push this. And then she feels bad when. When I have to push my podcast dates, which rightly so, that's good. [00:17:54] Speaker A: I hope she never stops that. [00:17:58] Speaker B: However. Okay, so this brought up a couple things. Tonight's podcast is a scenario. And I got me thinking. What if we did a podcast called Scenarios, A separate podcast, Scenarios. And we just did scenarios, you know, where it was like, hey, what would you do in this case? School shooting? Or we take incidents, things, current events that happened in the. You know, like, what would you do if you had Charlie Kirk's thing? Or what would you do if you're at the school and. And people shot it up? Or what would you do? And we could just do live Scenario. I mean, it's. It's. [00:18:37] Speaker A: It's. [00:18:37] Speaker B: It's a possibility, man. [00:18:39] Speaker A: You know, there was a podcast called here's the Scenario, but I think it's over now. And it was basically that exact thing, but I think it's over. So we can. [00:18:50] Speaker B: We just goes to show, wasn't successful. [00:18:53] Speaker A: No, it was not. [00:18:55] Speaker B: All right. [00:18:56] Speaker A: But it was a funny guy. I think it was Brendan Sacklow. If I was at the Charlie Kirk thing, I would run to the underground tunnel where the shooter was and see if I could open it up and get in there while everyone's running the other way. [00:19:14] Speaker B: Have you heard about that? I don't know what I would do. Yeah, the underground tunnels. Yeah. There's so much, dude. [00:19:19] Speaker A: They started construction, cemented over it. Yeah, that's nuts. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Crime scene. And they're like, we got construction coming in here tomorrow. Yeah, throw that data. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Canceled. They canceled an event the day or two after because it was an active crime scene, yet they went in and laid cement down. [00:19:44] Speaker B: Dude, Candace Owens is tearing that up, bro. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I've listened to all of her stuff on it. It's. It's been great. And she's really got a lot of. She's been going to the sources and getting a lot of information that no one else has. It's crazy. [00:20:00] Speaker B: All right, so I'm not a zombie guy. I'm not a Sci Fi guy. Just put that out There. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:09] Speaker B: However, I once went to a game night at some nerds house and instead of playing like Risk or something we've played before, they wanted to play a game very similar to the scenario we're having tonight. And I got into it with a couple people because they. One of the scenarios was kind of what we're doing, but on our way to what we chose to go to, we chose Costco. On our way there, we came across an accident where someone was under a car and they couldn't move their legs. Half the group wanted to stop and help them out. And I'm under the mindset of that person is dead weight. We're not stopping. You know what I mean? So the group split at that moment. [00:20:59] Speaker A: You and I are gonna disagree so much in this scenario. [00:21:04] Speaker B: I haven't read it, dude. I just know it's like a zombie apocalypse or something, I guess. I'm guessing it's Outbreak. Zero. Okay, you want to read the setting and I'll read the origin of outbreak. I don't have. Oh my gosh. This guy's over. All right. Oh my gosh. [00:21:19] Speaker A: It's so horrible how he doesn't have it pulled up. What are we gonna do? Damn it. Where is it? [00:21:30] Speaker B: All right, I'll start. I'll start with the setting. [00:21:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you're gonna have to fuck here. It is. [00:21:35] Speaker B: Modern. [00:21:36] Speaker A: Got it. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Modern day United States. You're located in a medium sized city, population 200,000 plus or minus, with suburban homes in a suburban neighborhood, nearby forests, and a few major highway highways leading in and out. It's early autumn, days are mild, nights are cold and leaves are starting to fall. [00:22:04] Speaker A: That's quite a setting. [00:22:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:07] Speaker A: You want me to read the origin? [00:22:09] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do that. [00:22:11] Speaker A: All right. A genetically modified fungal parasite, Cordyceps mortem, which I believe this is the exact plot of the Last of us. Originally engineered by a biotech company to control insect populations. Has mutated and jumped to mammals through illegal testing. It was accidentally released from a biotech facility in a nearby city, Wuhan, approximately 60 miles away. [00:22:44] Speaker B: All right, timeline of events. Day zero, first bite incident reported at a hospital 60 miles away. Brushed off as drug related violence. Day two, video surface online of erratic, violent behavior. People attacking others with unnaturally fast movements. Day three, local news confirms an unknown infection. Authorities begin partial lockdowns. Your city remains calm, but tension is rising. Day five, emergency alert. Stay indoors, avoid contact with infected individuals. Civil unrest expected. Local authorities lose control and as infected breach. Local authorities lose control as infected breach. Quarantine zones. [00:23:38] Speaker A: As the infected. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Yeah, the infected breach quarantine. Okay, Day seven, which is today. The power flickers, sirens wail in the distance. You've seen people loot looting stores. You've just heard gunshots A few blocks away, the news channel goes off mid broadcast. Off air mid broadcast. Your neighborhood seems quiet. For now. Zombie type. This is you, bro. [00:24:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I've actually watched two zombie movies getting ready for this. I watched dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead. [00:24:23] Speaker B: Nice. [00:24:24] Speaker A: Not helpful. [00:24:26] Speaker B: I do remember watching that. Z1, World War Z. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:24:33] Speaker A: It's a pretty good one. The problem, they weren't real zombies by definition. [00:24:40] Speaker B: Well, none of them were. I don't want to spoil alert for you, but Day of the Dead, dawn of the Dead, World War Z, none of them are real zombies. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Now dawn of the Dead are real zombies. Well, what are you. What are you saying are real zombies? [00:24:56] Speaker B: I'm saying there's not real zombies. [00:24:59] Speaker A: Oh, no. I. I hope you don't live to regret that statement. No, real zombies have to die and come back from the dead. And World war Z and 28 days later. And like those movies, they don't. You don't die first. You just get infected and then you're like off to the races zombie, like run super. [00:25:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:29] Speaker B: Okay, I don't know. All right, so tell me what kind of zombie type we got? [00:25:39] Speaker A: I think this could be worse than a virus because if it's fungal, that means, like spores could just open up in the air and give it to you, right? So you wouldn't need direct contact with an infected individual. So that could actually be worse. But yeah, it doesn't mention here whether people have to die first. So we might be dealing with pseudo zombies. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Oh, welcome to Pseudonyms. [00:26:13] Speaker A: But I'm. I'm. I don't know. Can we just hurt the zombies to stop them or do we have to kill their brain? [00:26:26] Speaker B: You know, not sure. I'm not sure. I haven't read that far, actually. [00:26:35] Speaker A: I don't think it gets into that. [00:26:39] Speaker B: Wow. You tired? [00:26:41] Speaker A: A little bit. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Didn't sleep enough. Didn't sleep enough, huh? [00:26:49] Speaker A: All right, so crack a nine. [00:26:53] Speaker B: I got up at the crack of dusk. Okay. All right, well, Rob. What do we rob? [00:27:05] Speaker A: Zombie. [00:27:09] Speaker B: Oh. [00:27:12] Speaker A: Let'S see. [00:27:13] Speaker B: I hope. I hope you come up with the name that, that, that. I'm thinking. [00:27:20] Speaker A: The only name related to zombie stuff I can think of is Barbara. And you can't be Barbara. How about Cilan? Here's Cillian. Cilan Murphy. [00:27:38] Speaker B: All right, Cillian Murphy. I Thought you were going to call me. I don't know. I was thinking, like, James. Karen, who's the dude in all those, like, movies where he's killing? Just like. I don't know, man, but he was in Bruce Campbell, I think it is Bruce Campbell. Yes, Bruce Campbell. So I was thinking of. [00:28:09] Speaker A: All right, you're Bruce. [00:28:11] Speaker B: All right, Rob. All right, read us in what kind of zombie infection or zombie type we're dealing with. [00:28:18] Speaker A: All right. Speed. Fast, when fresh. The first 72 hours after infection. After that, they're slow and stumbling as the decomposition begins. She doesn't say how fast, but I'm assuming you know, a sprint, which I hate. I hate that because the only way I'm surviving a zombie apocalypse is if they're slow. If the shits are fast, it's over. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Yeah, for all of us, almost. Yeah. [00:28:54] Speaker A: I mean, like, for most people, it's just. It's too hard. I like those movies, but in a real scenario, that's just too fast to. With. You couldn't. You couldn't survive that. Unless you found. Okay, I'm get. I'm skipping ahead, but unless you found some place where they couldn't get to. Yeah, like on top of a roof or something. [00:29:15] Speaker B: Yeah, unless you're in World War Z. Then they just climb on top of each other and climb on top of each other until they reach the roof. [00:29:22] Speaker A: But only if they're within the first 72 hours of infection. If. Because they start to. [00:29:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Intelligence. They have an animalistic level of intelligence. No human reasoning, but can hunt in packs and respond to noise. [00:29:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Infection method. Bites or contact with infected body, bodily fluids. Airborne spores may form later as the fungus matures. Later, a month later, three years later. How late? I need to know when I need to worry about. [00:29:58] Speaker B: But you're right because it was fungal. Could be airborne. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Turn time. One to four hours after bite. So let's just say that you do die from the bite. And then after one to four hours, you. You come back and you start kicking again. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I can see that. Well, World War Z, they were biting, remember? And like, the dude was like, oh, she bit my arm in the beginning. He's like, flipping out. So, I mean, if she bit my arm, yeah, I'm turning. But like. Yeah, I'm right there with you. Like, this is. This is not good. I don't think I'm gonna die from a bite. Arm bite. But I'll turn. But I'll turn. [00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Says thing the infection is supposed to kill you and then you. [00:30:50] Speaker B: I mean, we're gonna try some. We're gonna try some. [00:30:54] Speaker A: Cut it off. Now. I did, I did, did hear a dot. Because they do that on Walking Dead a lot. And I did hear a doctor say that that wouldn't actually work because the moment it's in your bloodstream, it's gone too far to even matter. So. But I'm gonna try it. If you get bit, I'll try it. But here's the thing. More people need to do what Brad Pitt does in World War Z, which is he tied magazines around his arms, like under his sleeve. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:26] Speaker A: So if they bit him, it wouldn't get through to his skin. Why don't more people do like that? Like that's kind of the whole thing. [00:31:34] Speaker B: At the minimum, double layer your clothes. [00:31:38] Speaker A: Yeah. SWAT gear would be great. [00:31:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, dude, any. Really? Dude, I mean, come on. You got a T shirt and I buy you. There's a good chance I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna pierce your T shirt. I might. I might. [00:31:56] Speaker A: You could. You think so see a little, the kind of bite that you give me? Like. No, that's fun. That's just. Yeah, that's a nibble on the ear. If you were. If you were actually trying to eat my flesh. No, you'd get right through that shirt. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:32:13] Speaker A: I think you could take a chunk out if you needed to. [00:32:15] Speaker B: Mmm. Kind of turn me on right now. All right, here's the conditions. [00:32:21] Speaker A: There's no time for that. [00:32:24] Speaker B: You live in a two story home on the edge of the suburbs near the wooded area. You have partial cell service, text only. Power is unreliable and the water is still running. For now. Your supplies, pantry food for five days, two gallons of water, first aid kit, one crowbar, pocket knife. A small sedan with half tank of gas. You don't know if your extended family in another city is safe. All your real life situations remain the same, meaning kids and their location, age, etc. Your choice points. Stay and fortify or bug out. Do you go solo? Team up with neighbors and friends? What's your long term strategy? Survive. Escape to a rumored safe zone or find a cure. Let's talk about our situations. What's your situation you're in right now? [00:33:31] Speaker A: Okay. Actually a pretty good one. There's a lot of people in this house. So assuming me and my sister's boyfriend, we go out for supplies. We both have trucks, we can plow through large hordes of zombies if we need to. Roll up to a store, load up the trucks, gtfo. So that would actually be all right? For a while. The biggest problem with my house is that it's right on the corner of a busy street. [00:34:12] Speaker B: Nope. You live on the edge of the suburbs in a wooded area. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Ah, right. Okay. I forgot what's gonna stay real and what's not. Yeah, okay. I say stay there. The mistake is always going to the rumored safe zone. That's actually a perfect way to phrase it because there's no concrete facts of anything when you don't have the Internet. It's all just a rumored safe zone and it's fucked up when you get there. You're gonna die on the way. And if you make it, it's not what they told you it was. You'll be lucky if it's not a trap. That's the reality. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, so you stay in fortify. [00:35:01] Speaker A: Yeah, man, I think with your family. [00:35:04] Speaker B: Are you getting friends and neighbors for. [00:35:07] Speaker A: The ones that I, That I don't kill. We stay, we fortify. If some friends need to cut, if I can get a hold of them and if they need the place, I would like to have more people, but like, I don't know how. How? Well, I've got partial cell service. Text only. Power is unreliable. Okay. So I could get some text messages out to people in the area and I could say, if you need a place, come here. And then we build up the walls, man. [00:35:42] Speaker B: All right, well, let's say you have another buddy that's like, dude, no. Like, come over here. We got, we got. I got a bunch of artillery. Like, this is the spot. You going over there. You leaving, you taking the family, Bring your artillery. So you're not leaving no matter what. You got a friend that's like, no, I'm not leaving, dude. But he's like, let's say you're in. Let's say you're, you're. You're a 20 minute drive away from him. You driving. Are you staying still? He's got guns. You know he does. Cuz like he's always been in the guns. You going? [00:36:22] Speaker A: Maybe if he could. I'm more worried about location. If he could convince me that the placement was better, like it was more remote. It wasn't. [00:36:34] Speaker B: No, it's not remote. He's more inside the, the. The inner. [00:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not fucking around with that. [00:36:41] Speaker B: Okay? [00:36:41] Speaker A: I could, I can convince him to leave. [00:36:45] Speaker B: All right, so that's what you do. What if he says no, I'll go get him. What if he's like, dude, I just can't. [00:36:51] Speaker A: Then it would have been great to have Your ammo, but I'll see you later. I'm not. I'm not going into a more populated area. [00:37:02] Speaker B: All right, I'll give you my scenario. Yeah, I got. I'll probably. I'm. I'm guessing I'll have number four and number three with me. Right. [00:37:11] Speaker A: This is where country is definitely dead immediately. That gas can did nothing. [00:37:17] Speaker B: Yeah, so she. She brought up something about, like. She brought up something about end times again. I was like, or being prepared. She's like, well, I am the one that's all prepared. I was like, you fill up that gas can yet? She's like, nah. I was like, yeah, I didn't think so. So. [00:37:33] Speaker A: So let's not talk about one thing. Is not prepared. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:40] Speaker A: My country's dead. Immediately. She went to a grocery store, she mouthed off to another, and that shot her. [00:37:50] Speaker B: No, I guarantee you, she calls me and she's like, hey, like, we'll come to you or you come to us. Like, either way, I'll take it. Like, we gotta stick together. I know this is what's gonna happen. I'm gonna let her come. If she has number two with her. If she doesn't have number two with her. Kick rocks. Yeah, Let me hear number two's voice on the phone first. Oh, you don't have her. Call me when you got her. Call me when you got her. Right now you're on your own. Call. Call your little buddy and have. Go. Go meet at his house. He's got. He's got guns. That's fair. As far as teaming up, I feel I have to, dude. I feel I'm the guy that's going to reach out to others and say, hey, yeah, what. What's. What do you. What do you got? What do you. Can you fit three more? [00:38:49] Speaker A: So you're bailing? [00:38:52] Speaker B: Not that I want to, but again, dude, I can't own a firearm. All I got is these two little hands and some food and two daughters to protect. So for me, I'm like, I'm. I'm at a spot where I'm like, I don't. I. I gotta go. I gotta do something. I gotta go. [00:39:10] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, that's fair. That's the thing. I don't have guns either. [00:39:18] Speaker B: I ain't boxing these zombies if they break in. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the thing. Like, if we just stay in the house and we're quiet, are the zombies gonna fuck with us? Or, like, are they trying to break through the windows and stuff? [00:39:34] Speaker B: Who knows? I don't know. I mean, like, I'm assuming if you're quiet. Yeah, you're good. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:40] Speaker B: So, yeah, I can definitely do the whole quiet game, but that doesn't mean people aren't gonna try and raid my house. [00:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I know that. That's like a huge thing in zombie movies. I don't know how quickly that would really happen. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Well, let's just say, dude, your neighbor tries to get in, your house is locked up. They break a window. That's noise. They get in, you're like, hey, get the fuck out. That's noise. Now you got a zombie or two in the area that are like, I hear some noise. [00:40:11] Speaker A: True. I get that. But, like, how quickly do people jump to that? I think zombie movies always make it immediate that, like, people are gonna start killing and pillaging and stuff. [00:40:24] Speaker B: I give you. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Honestly, that happens. Think about war zones. Think about Gaza. Gaza is as close to zombie apocalypse conditions as you can possibly get. I'm not hearing about widespread crime or people killing each other or anything. [00:40:41] Speaker B: No. [00:40:42] Speaker A: But you. [00:40:42] Speaker B: You give it 10 days of everybody being quiet, you're gonna have one or two. You're probably not gonna hear the stories. Let's. Let's take Gaza. My house has just been bombed. All my shit's up. Yeah. Now my kids are starving. Yeah. I'm gonna go start checking out neighbors, houses, and I'm not gonna go forcefully. I'm gonna try and break in, like, as if I can't get in. Nothing's open. I'm gonna try the door and. But I'm gonna try and go get some food for my kids. That might not make the news because it's just me going solo, but if I'm confronted by somebody and it's me getting your food and my kids and you, like, get out of my house and I'm just begging for food, you're like, go. I mean, you know. Yeah. I personally would go. It doesn't mean everybody else is gonna be in the same boat. They're not gonna be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. My bad, dude. I'm gonna go try another house. [00:41:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I would be inviting my neighbors in. [00:41:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:41:43] Speaker A: So I might not have to worry about people breaking in. I don't know. [00:41:46] Speaker B: No, I'm kind of. I'm. I'm right there with you, dude. I feel like there's. There's numbers and power. There's power in numbers. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:52] Speaker B: And. And honestly, it's also, like, when you're in the deep end, like when you go out into the ocean and you get deeper and deeper and all of a Sudden your legs can't touch the ground and you're still out there. I like being in the middle of the pack. Yeah. I don't like being on the edge. To me, that's where the sharks are coming first. [00:42:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:11] Speaker B: So like, for me, I want a lot of neighbors to cushion me from the front door, you know, from the windows, you know, So I get it. [00:42:21] Speaker A: An apartment might actually be better. [00:42:25] Speaker B: I think it would. But I'm not in an apartment. I'm in a two story house on the edge of suburb of suburban neighborhood near the woods. [00:42:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I just mean like better than a house. Like we're in houses in this scenario, but like a fourth story apartment might actually be like a better place to be in this scenario. Just because I thought the same thing. Space between you and the outside world. [00:42:49] Speaker B: Well, when big country brought it up, like, oh, we're in end times and all this. And I was like, yeah, you should come here. She like, no, you should come to my place. And I'm like, honestly, like, I have neighbors. I've already talked this over with. Like, we know we're sticking together. We know we're going into one apartment. We know. Like, you don't. I mean, and honestly, it's like you look at an apartment, let's just take trick or treating. We're right around the corner from, from Halloween. Who wants to look at an apartment? Be like, yep, I want to climb all those stairs and go door to door. No. Yeah, they want to go to the neighborhoods, you know, I mean, they want to be able to walk up and go to the door, not climb five, you know, sets of stairs and, and take a chance, I think. And, and most apartments are gated. [00:43:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:37] Speaker B: So I, I personally might just reach out to a friend in an apartment and say, hey, you got room, cuz we coming. [00:43:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, so do you go solo, team up with, survive, neighboring. [00:43:55] Speaker B: So we're teaming up. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Yep. [00:43:57] Speaker B: What's your long term strategy? [00:44:03] Speaker A: I can't find a cure. I'm not remotely qualified to even do the research. [00:44:10] Speaker B: No, dude, no. I'm not finding a cure. I'm not going to a rumored safe zone. I'm going to survive, bro. [00:44:17] Speaker A: Yeah. I would say my long term strategy, if the house next door to me is abandoned, take over that house, so on and so forth. Build, build a wall. What? [00:44:35] Speaker B: I'm looking at you like this because it's like you're looking like you're in Monopoly. You're like, I'm gonna go next door. I'm gonna take ownership of that House. You're now just separating everybody. Different houses. And then to build a wall. That's noise, my friend. Like you could. What do you like you can't go house to house. What do you. I mean, like, I don't know, I almost think you have to find somewhere that's already built up and fortified and take it over. [00:45:03] Speaker A: I don't know of that place though. [00:45:06] Speaker B: I'm thinking a school. I'm thinking school because usually schools have gates. But a school almost is really stupid to me because it's so open. I'm thinking like, to me, I'm thinking like a fucking Costco or somewhere. Somewhere that's got all the shit I need. But I'm sure other people are thinking the same thing. [00:45:28] Speaker A: So you got glass doors though. My main focus is building up a defensive perimeter around wherever I'm going to stay. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Yeah, you have to. Yeah. And really the only place like that is a prison. Yeah, now we're in prison. Walking dead. Now we're walking dead. What is the place that's built to keep you out? Cuz prisons are built to keep you in. [00:46:08] Speaker A: Honestly, if it wasn't for all the glass, I would say most corporate buildings. [00:46:18] Speaker B: What's wrong with the glass? [00:46:21] Speaker A: Well, you just throw a brick and you're in, you know? [00:46:25] Speaker B: Yeah, good point. [00:46:27] Speaker A: But as long as no one's looking for you there, if you could find a way to like barricade the doors on the bottom level, probably be all right. [00:46:38] Speaker B: You know what, I think you're onto something because you take a high riser, you move everybody up to like, I don't know, fifth, sixth, seventh. You go higher, but you want to go minimum five stories. I think you start barricading any access in. I mean, honestly, you're looking pretty good because you can make almost all the noise you want. Mm. Because you're so high up. And in order for them to find you zombies, they're gonna follow the noise. But it's not gonna be something where you're like, oh shit, that's. I gotta get into the stairwell and go up. Oh, I gotta hit the elevator and go up. Animalistic, no human reasoning. [00:47:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:25] Speaker B: So it's gonna have to be a stairwell that has easy push access like a dog through a doggy door or that's really it, dude. So I mean, like, honestly, I think you're onto something. I think a corporate building would be pretty much your go to now you're only fighting against reasonable people. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, I don't know, I wanna, I wonder. I think that the. I Don't know. I don't know what I think. The more I think about it, I just go, like, one way or the other, and I can convince myself of both. I think it's unlikely that, like, a large group of people that have ill intent will find cooperation with one another. So, like, Negan doesn't exist in the real world? [00:48:24] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. I think there are those people. I think they're like trailer trash people. [00:48:32] Speaker A: In the real world, the world that we're in currently, people only follow people like Negan when he has some perceived legitimacy. So if he's got a constitution, if he's got, you know, a land, if he. If he's got, you know, a democracy. These are things that give people credibility to a dictator. But in that scenario, if the. If your people just want to rape and pillage, I don't know how easily you get those people together, following rules, you know? So I think you've only got to worry about outliers. Just like in today, you got to worry about one dude trying to mug you on the street. It's not often that, like, five guys are going to come up and try to mug you, you know, and that would be manageable if you had people. If you had, you know, 20, 30 people. I don't know how. How often one dude is going to get the drop on you. [00:49:41] Speaker B: No, I agree. That's why I think corporate office would be best. Yeah. Because. [00:49:46] Speaker A: And also, no one's going there for food or anything. [00:49:49] Speaker B: No. Now, if you could pick the right corporate office, it's got a shit ton of food in it. [00:49:57] Speaker A: Mmm. [00:49:58] Speaker B: You know, I mean, like a big corp that actually, like, fills the snack area. You know, like some of these companies I work for, they got full. Full blown vending machines. And all of them, you know, about. [00:50:10] Speaker A: 15 minutes from here, I gotta say. Seven, eight stories shadowing the 5 and the 405 freeways. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Bank of America. [00:50:24] Speaker A: It's the Taco Bell headquarters. Oh, that's right. I know rationally that there's not a real Taco Bell in there, but there's got to be something. [00:50:39] Speaker B: Yeah, but isn't there a Taco Bell at the bottom of it? [00:50:44] Speaker A: I think I've heard of that, but. [00:50:48] Speaker B: No, I think there's a drive through outside. Like, it's in the same parking lot. It's not in the same building. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Okay, that's possible. The problem with that is that everything at Taco Bell is highly perishable. Meat, cheese, lettuce. That stuff's not going to keep. [00:51:07] Speaker B: Yeah, but you got a good seven days on that shit. I mean, I let my. I mean, I. I let my McDonald's burgers, like when we were younger, we go by when they used to sell them for a quarter, like on Thursdays or Tuesdays or some, we would go buy 50 of them. And they last us the whole week. We never refrigerated them. We just left them on the table and walked up and grabbed one when you wanted one. I got a stomach like a tank. Bad fish ain't got on me, bro. I ate some bad fish once. I was like, I was cool. Still. [00:51:43] Speaker A: I. I'm remembering this story. It was just recently that you had bad fish. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Didn't affect me at all. Thought it might have. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Huh. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Gave me a little. Little run for my money. But I made it through the wilderness. I wasn't puking. You know what I mean? I wasn't puking and got food poisoning. No. Just made me shit a little bit more. [00:52:09] Speaker A: A couple years ago, I was at work eating my lunch and I was alone in the break room. So I did what I do when I'm alone, which is I stand at the window and stare out while I eat my sandwich. [00:52:22] Speaker B: Do you really? [00:52:24] Speaker A: Yeah, if I'm alone. And I was down to like a couple bites and I looked down and I realize there's mold on this bread. And so I threw the rest of it away. But then I just sort of had to sit wondering, was that the only mold? And I didn't eat any mold or did I just eat an entirely moldy sandwich and I'm just really good for it to hit me? [00:52:51] Speaker B: Unless you're allergic to penicillin. I mean, it's not. Stop. It's not horrible. Yeah. [00:52:59] Speaker A: I assume anything that would, like, grow on bread is probably not like the worst. [00:53:05] Speaker B: Yeah. My parents used to eat moldy cheese and I never understood it. We used to have a block of moldy cheese under some glass, like in one of those cake displays. And I was just like, I don't. [00:53:17] Speaker A: Cheese is mold. Right? In some weird way. [00:53:21] Speaker B: I mean, some weird way. That's how. That's what they told me. Hmm. All right, survival based questions. You find a fully stocked, heavily fortified house, but it's occupied by a lone terrified teenager. You force them out, negotiate or walk away. [00:53:39] Speaker A: Male or female. [00:53:43] Speaker B: You pick. [00:53:48] Speaker A: You know what? It doesn't matter. Are they attractive? [00:53:52] Speaker B: Wow. Hey. [00:53:54] Speaker A: I'm trying to rebuild the earth. What are you doing? I can't be rebuilding it with these 35 year old. [00:54:06] Speaker B: God, 35 year old. [00:54:16] Speaker A: It's difficult for me to imagine, see, because my whole thing is fortifying my own house and staying where I'm at. It's. [00:54:27] Speaker B: Yeah, but you look across the street. You look across street, you're like, the Joneses, they have a whole fucking brick and. And wrought iron fence around their house. Yeah. You know, and you're like, damn. Like, what do you do? You know, they got like the. You. You've been inside their house. You know, it's got some. You're not gonna try and go across street and you see little Davy Jones sitting in there, and you're like, hey, dude, we taking over? Like, hey, he's terrified. Terrified teenager. I'm. I'm letting him join the group, but we're taking over the house. [00:55:06] Speaker A: Yeah. See, I would negotiate. I can't put myself in. In the mindset of, like, that is owed to me. And I'm going to take. See, that's like a very Rick Grimes thing to do where, like, oh, there's this thing I want that's just mine now, and I'm just going to take it. I don't have that. So, like, if this, If I could get this guy to join me, then, like, cool, we can use the house or whatever. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm negotiating. I'm. I'm selling it. Like, hey, dude. Like, we got a ton of people. Yeah. Jumping. You can ride with us. Yeah. Yeah, you can ride with us. [00:55:45] Speaker A: If he's. If he's terrified. You know what you call that? That's a buying position in sales. [00:55:53] Speaker B: A bind. [00:55:54] Speaker A: A buying position. Oh, that's. [00:55:58] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:55:58] Speaker A: He's. He's got a problem you can solve, and here's how. [00:56:03] Speaker B: Yep. [00:56:03] Speaker A: Let me in here. You have a sister. [00:56:10] Speaker B: All right. This is where it gets good. You're out of water. The only nearby source is a rain barrel next to a house swarming with the infected. Nah, nah, we just thirsty. We are just thirsty. We don't risk it. We are thirsty. [00:56:28] Speaker A: No, not with the whole spores aspect of it. [00:56:31] Speaker B: No. I'll probably figure out how to fucking filter piss before I go out there. [00:56:36] Speaker A: Hold up, is it. Is it a rain barrel? Like those high tech ones that, like, capture the rain and don't let any debris in? [00:56:44] Speaker B: That's what I'm assuming. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Then maybe yak, because I don't know if anything. [00:56:52] Speaker B: Swarming with the infected. How you doing this? [00:56:56] Speaker A: Well, if I had guns, it wouldn't be an issue, but. [00:57:02] Speaker B: And that's the weird thing I haven't heard I've seen anything in here about guns yet. Like, dude, same. Same scenario. You don't have guns, I don't have guns. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. We probably just have to start with reality and go from there. Fuck yeah. I mean, I'm. I'm not risking it in reality. I. I think give me another two days of needing water and maybe I risk it. But I think. I think I'm comfortable drinking it. [00:57:35] Speaker B: I think I could do something. [00:57:37] Speaker A: What could you do? [00:57:40] Speaker B: I feel like if I could sneak someone into another house down the street, that we can have them start yelling to attract the infected. It buys me time to go over, grab the water. Now what I got to figure out is how to get that person safely out of that house and back to us. [00:58:04] Speaker A: Have them drive in a car slowly moving away from the house. [00:58:09] Speaker B: Yep. [00:58:11] Speaker A: They'll. They'll take the whole swarm away, and then they loop back and pick you up. [00:58:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I almost have to do it. That's the shitty part. Because I would only. Trust me in both positions. One to get the water and one to drive. You know what I mean? Last thing I need is to send, like, a stretch marks. And he's like, I got this, bro. I got this. And then he starts driving off with his window down and, like, wrecks the car. Like, every time he borrows the company truck, I'm like. He gets, like, so excited. I'm like, don't wreck it, dude. Like, you are so excited right now. Like, it rained, like, a ton out here, and there was an area in the drive that you had to drive through, and it was so much water that it would, like, you know, like, it would create big waves. When you drove through, it was, like, probably 8 inches of water deep. And I'm just like, today. And so I told him, yeah, it rained a lot the last couple days. Like, it's really cool out here right now. It's like, in the 70s. But I'm telling him. I'm like, hey, look, he got excited. I was like, hey, be careful. Like, take the truck, because there's that big area where the water is. I don't know if your car is gonna, like, you know, make it through or whatever. Like, I'm sure it will, but I don't know. Just take the truck. So he took. He's like, oh, for real? And I'm like, yeah, yeah. See? Don't fucking wreck it, dude. Don't take that corner. Like, you're fucking cool, and you're gonna fucking fish, hail, and fucking wreck the truck. Like, don't do that shit. Just drive through it normal, but fucking, like, don't wreck. I could see him getting in some like, that being like, yeah, I got this. Puts on the Celine Dion or the Paula Abdul and starts singing out the window. And you know what I mean? And then, like, doesn't realize a zombie's, like, right there by the window. I can see that. So I'd have to be driving and go get the water. [01:00:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Would you trust me to drive? [01:00:07] Speaker B: I would trust. See, here's the thing. I would trust you to drive. I trust myself to drive and somebody else to get the water. Because the reality of you fuck up, get in the water, you're fucking dead. You're fucking dead in the car. I feel like there's a false sense of safety where you're like, oh, I'm in a car, I'm safe. I could do whatever. And that kind of lets your guard down in a sense in some areas where, like, you have no guard. You have no. No false sense of guard. You're taking a bucket and you're going to get some water. You gotta carry that water back. I feel like there's a different sense of, like, every move is calculated versus. Versus. In the car. You. You got Paula Abdul on. You're cruising, you're driving, you're honking. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's a false. That's where I feel like the mistakes. [01:00:59] Speaker A: Jerking the steering wheel left to right for no reason. [01:01:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I don't know. [01:01:05] Speaker A: You hit a parked car. [01:01:08] Speaker B: Exactly. That's how I feel it's gonna happen. Would you go get the water? [01:01:15] Speaker A: See if it was my. [01:01:18] Speaker B: Tell me, Rob. [01:01:18] Speaker A: Tell me if it was my idea. I'm getting the water because it's more. It's more dangerous. And as a leader, I'm not gonna ask anyone to do something I wouldn't do myself. So I agree. [01:01:31] Speaker B: That's why I feel like there's got to be two of me to drive and get the water. [01:01:35] Speaker A: Right. But there are two of you, buddy, I'm right here. I'm driving. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I do get the water. [01:01:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I would, too. But I would want to map the route first, because I want it very specific that you go slow to attract them. And then once you're halfway back, you gun it and you get away from them so that they're not coming back with you when you come to pick me up. So I would want very clear directions for the driver. [01:02:10] Speaker B: Here's a question. I got how you get in the water, what are you putting it in, and what you got in your house? What Are you putting in? Because water is heavy, bro. [01:02:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I got a dolly. [01:02:21] Speaker B: No. So you're gonna. [01:02:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:23] Speaker B: Okay. You. That's pretty smart. I don't think. I got a hand cart. Yeah. [01:02:26] Speaker A: And it's got the big tire, so it's not loud either. I can wheel it right up. [01:02:31] Speaker B: Pick. [01:02:31] Speaker A: I mean, it's probably too heavy. [01:02:32] Speaker B: What do you. But what are you putting the water in? [01:02:36] Speaker A: I'm just getting the barrel. I'm gonna take the barrel. [01:02:40] Speaker B: Oh, you're taking the whole. Yeah, See, I'm thinking like what size barrel you. Are you thinking. Cuz I was thinking like one of those big ass. Like, they're buried half in the ground. They're like a mini pool, but they're like real fucking deep. That's what I'm thinking. [01:02:54] Speaker A: Oh, no. I was picturing those things that are like the size of trash cans that are like built to collect the rainwater without letting any debris or any shit in. They're kind of like. They're yellow with like black lids, those ones. [01:03:12] Speaker B: Oh, see, I was thinking like the kind that are like halfway buried in the ground. They're probably like. They're like the size of a kiddie pool, but they're like fucking five feet. [01:03:22] Speaker A: That would be. That would be an issue. Let me. Let me Google images. [01:03:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:29] Speaker A: See if they were one of those big old ones. Yeah, that's a problem. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Rain barrel? Yeah. 50 gallon. Dude, I mean, are you really fucking dollying a 50 gallon rain barrel, bro? I guess you can. It's like a trash can size. [01:03:47] Speaker A: Here's the thing. I have to have someone helping me because we've got to load it into the truck when the truck gets back. So someone's got to help me regardless. But once we have that thing. Now we have that thing. [01:04:03] Speaker B: All right, now we've got water. [01:04:04] Speaker A: Every time it rains. [01:04:06] Speaker B: In your mind, how far was this rain barrel? In my mind, it was like down the street, like a block away. And I'm hand carting it all the way back. Okay. I was gonna handcuff it. [01:04:17] Speaker A: I'm throwing it in. Well, I mean, if it's the size of a trash can, I could probably do that. But I'm assuming we put it in the truck and we drive it. [01:04:30] Speaker B: You're lifting 50 gallons of water into a truck? [01:04:35] Speaker A: Me and someone else could, yeah. I don't know if that's true. [01:04:51] Speaker B: How much does 50 gallons of water weigh? 400 pounds. [01:04:59] Speaker A: All right, so I need four guys. But hold on, because it never said what kind of rain barrel. And a lot of these. 50, 48. Yeah, a lot of these are like, 50 gallons. Those are like, the smaller ones? [01:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah, those are the smaller ones, bro. [01:05:25] Speaker A: Okay. Okay, here's what we do. The rain barrel. No, no, we. We bring like, five gallon jugs, fill it there. [01:05:40] Speaker B: You have those on hand. This is where I'm at, bro. This where I'm at. Like, I'm going with pots and pans, bro. I'm filling up a pot of water. [01:05:52] Speaker A: Ah, that is crazy. Yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. We'd have to get them. We'd have to find gallon jugs. Fill. Fill one or two of those up while the car is distracting the zombies. Fill enough of those up to where we can also lift the rain barrel. Like, the rain barrel's empty now. And then we load all that shit into the truck and we take off with it. Now we've got a rain barrel. [01:06:26] Speaker B: How fast you think these guys are going? 17 miles an hour. These zombies? [01:06:31] Speaker A: Yeah, if they're at a full sprint, yeah. [01:06:35] Speaker B: Okay, so he takes them far enough away, zooms back. Now you're loading up. Okay, That's a doable plan. That's a doable plan. All right. We, we conquered that. We're both going for the rain barrel. We both got a legitimate plan now, buddy. [01:06:50] Speaker A: Can I just point out to you how beautiful this is? If we could be together in this apocalypse, we had one problem and we spent maybe 10 minutes on it, and we got a pretty good solution. Can you imagine real life stakes, what we could do? [01:07:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. Because we're both like, I, you know, I go up as tribute. Yeah, yeah, we both are. All right, so you're bitten. You only have a few hours before turning. You're with your group. Do you hide it, leave quietly, or ask someone to kill you? [01:07:31] Speaker A: You go first. [01:07:42] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie. You're gonna shoot me. Okay, price triangulation. No, just strangle me. Like, just put me in a chokehold, dude. And then just hold on for, like, three minutes. [01:07:58] Speaker A: It takes longer than three minutes to strangle someone. [01:08:01] Speaker B: Hold on a 10. Hold on 10. I don't give a. That's the easiest way to go out. [01:08:09] Speaker A: This isn't about you. [01:08:12] Speaker B: Okay? The alternative is I turn and I, I, I kill someone and I kill maybe, possibly everyone in the group. Yeah, I'm not leaving quietly. I'm not going out there while I still got my state of mind. I'm not gonna hide it and kill the whole. The whole group. [01:08:30] Speaker A: See, that's, that's the thing. Is that hiding? It is imposing something on the group. Having someone kill you is imposing something on someone else. I'm gonna leave quietly and go shoot myself in the woods or something. [01:08:48] Speaker B: Because we don't have guns, bro. Hence the strangle me. [01:08:53] Speaker A: I'll slit my throat. I got a lot of knives. [01:08:55] Speaker B: You will. The. You will, bro. Get out of here. That's what you're doing. [01:09:00] Speaker A: Here's the problem. If I just go out to the woods and die, then I'm going to turn, and now I'm a potential problem for someone else down the road. So that does put me in a position where I do have to die. I do have to kill myself. Slitting my throat won't stop me from becoming a zombie. I'm just realizing strangling you won't stop you from being a zombie either. [01:09:33] Speaker B: You got to behead him. [01:09:36] Speaker A: I've got a Civil War sword, probably. [01:09:41] Speaker B: I mean, you. You could do execution like that. But I'm saying for me, choke me out, cut off my head afterwards. [01:09:53] Speaker A: Be quicker. It's. [01:09:54] Speaker B: Dude, no, you, bro. You. It's quicker for me to take three or four hacks at your neck. The first one's gonna be brutal, buddy. Get out of here, dude. Fuck you. We're fighting. If you're trying to take me out with a Civil War sword, it's Wasn't it? We're fighting. [01:10:12] Speaker A: Which. Which would be a hilarious way to spend your last moments on earth is fighting me. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Because could you imagine though, if I did, let's say I did. I put my head over the couch and I'm like, hey, just chop my head off you. Honestly, I can see you. [01:10:29] Speaker A: We need that couch. All right. [01:10:33] Speaker B: I put my head over, over, over the wall in the backyard and I'm like, just go ahead, dude. [01:10:38] Speaker A: You're going. [01:10:39] Speaker B: I can see you slapping my, like, mid back with the sword and just being like, dude, can you imagine you, like. You know when someone hits your back and you push out your chest like that hurt. I could see that being the case. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Buddy, you've never seen me hit an avocado pit with the knife I carved it with. Get that out on the first. First swipe. [01:11:06] Speaker B: Yeah, it's in your hand. It's like three. Three. Three inches away. You're talking about a sword. [01:11:13] Speaker A: You gotta see. I'm talking about accuracy. [01:11:17] Speaker B: Come on. You're not Rose. You're not Rose. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Rose. [01:11:21] Speaker B: This isn't Titanic. You're not Rose. Get out of here, bro. Get out of here. No way, dude. You're gonna whack Me mid shoulder blades and I'm just gonna be like, oh my gosh, within five minutes, we're gonna have a swarm of infected around us and I'm just gonna be half chopped in my back shoulder blades. Dude, get out. Dude, choke me out then. Just. Just saw it off, bro. Sawed off. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Okay, so let's say I strangle you and then I do exactly that. I accidentally swipe you in the back instead of your neck. Yeah. And then I'm just angry that you were right. It takes me 50 hacks to get your God damn head off. [01:12:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I can see that though. Dude, I'm telling you, man, like, in reality, I might get close to your neck, but the. The fact that I make it through your neck in one good swing, it's probably not likely. [01:12:25] Speaker A: Bro, I'm telling you right now, the. [01:12:27] Speaker B: Sword'S probably going to eat it on the first bone it hits. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Tie a scarf to the branch of a tree. Give me one swipe, I'm gonna cut it right above the scarf. [01:12:42] Speaker B: What the fuck are you talking about? [01:12:44] Speaker A: I am. I believe I can do this. [01:12:51] Speaker B: Now. You're trying to just. You're trying to shift this scenario into like a fucking Olympia. Like. No, no, no, no, no, no. Next time you're in town, we're tying a scarf on a tree. I'm gonna hit it. You know what? That's not bad. Practice. [01:13:05] Speaker A: Okay. Stand a coin. Stand a half dollar up on a table on the ridges. [01:13:12] Speaker B: Give me the biggest coin there is. [01:13:15] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you know, your neck's not. [01:13:17] Speaker B: Well, why don't we go a peso? Why don't we go peso? [01:13:22] Speaker A: Sure. All right, give me. Give me one swipe. I'm knocking that coin off the table with a sword. [01:13:30] Speaker B: No chip in the wood. [01:13:37] Speaker A: Maybe a little chip. [01:13:39] Speaker B: Maybe a little chip. I. I will, I will. I will overcorrect before I under. Correct. I will. I'll swing at the table. Make sure I head it off. Okay. All right, so you're. What do you. What do you. What are you doing? Dude, what are you doing? You're leaving quietly and slightly sleeping your own neck. Slitting your own throat. [01:14:00] Speaker A: Well, now, because I. I'll still become a zombie if I do that. So. [01:14:06] Speaker B: One good way is to hang yourself. You go out easy and you're not going anywhere. You're on a leash. [01:14:16] Speaker A: But that I know. Like intellectually, I know that I'm not conscious as is zombie, but just hanging there would suck. [01:14:26] Speaker B: You're animalistic. No human reason. That's the only way. If you Want me to do it myself? That's the only way I'm doing it. [01:14:32] Speaker A: All right. See, only I could go out now. How far away are we from Red Rock Canyon? Because that's where I'd want to do it. [01:14:41] Speaker B: Is that in Colorado? [01:14:43] Speaker A: No, that's right where you used to live in Foothill Ranch. [01:14:49] Speaker B: Oh, well, Suburban and woods. Where are we at? [01:14:55] Speaker A: That's the kind of area that we're talking about, I think. [01:14:58] Speaker B: Okay, you're 20 minutes away. You taking the last vehicle to drive there? Are you walking? [01:15:03] Speaker A: I don't have time to walk. [01:15:06] Speaker B: Yeah, no one does. So what are you doing? You. You taking your car and you're like, hey, fuck you guys. I'm taking the car to do this last bit. Are you having someone drop you off? [01:15:17] Speaker A: No one can know. [01:15:19] Speaker B: Yeah, you're imposing again. [01:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah, they'll talk me out of it. Yeah, I'm just gonna. [01:15:25] Speaker B: Walk me out of it. [01:15:28] Speaker A: No, I'm like. I'm such a joy to the group that they could never just accept if. [01:15:35] Speaker B: I'm driving you, bro, I'm like, hey, look, it's been swell, but the swellings gone down. It's time for you to get out. I love you, man. Sorry it's got to end like this, but all good things must come to an end. You're gone, bro. [01:15:50] Speaker A: You're very pale, and I need you to get out of the car. [01:15:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I love you, Rob. You know this, but this is the end of our journey, my friend. [01:16:00] Speaker A: All right, I'm gonna take a rope. I'm gonna walk as far away as I can so that no one finds me, hopefully, and then find a tree. String her up. [01:16:13] Speaker B: You know what, dude? I might not even. I might not even. I might not do that. I might just string myself to a tree. I don't have to kill myself. [01:16:24] Speaker A: Boy, I have been. [01:16:26] Speaker B: I can literally tie it around my waist. [01:16:30] Speaker A: Boy, I have been very dramatic this whole time, haven't I? You just came up with a much better solution. I came up. I came up with civil war sword before. I came up with tie myself to something. [01:16:44] Speaker B: Dude, honestly, you just gotta tie yourself to something, bro. [01:16:47] Speaker A: I really am about the pageantry. Hard eye. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Here's best case solution powers out. Is power out. [01:17:01] Speaker A: Okay? Yeah, I think so. It's. It's unreliable. [01:17:05] Speaker B: Well, I was going to say you tie yourself up with an extension cord. You tie the other end of extension cord around something and then you plug it in. So in your animalistic ways, if you want to chew yourself out of this, you electrocute Yourself. [01:17:21] Speaker A: Unreliable. Yeah, I'd say that's. You probably couldn't depend on that. [01:17:27] Speaker B: All right, well, I'm chaining myself up to a tree, best case scenario. And I'm doing it high. I'm doing it high so that if I do happen to make it past the two day mark and not turn, I can unchain myself and fucking try and make my way back home. [01:17:45] Speaker A: That would. That would be so hilarious if you actually weren't infected. [01:17:52] Speaker B: Right? [01:17:53] Speaker A: I almost got bit by a rattlesnake because I came out here thinking I was gonna. [01:18:02] Speaker B: All right, you come across a working vehicle, but it belongs to a family trying to flee. Do you take it by force? [01:18:14] Speaker A: I don't need it that bad. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't take anything by force, especially when I got a half tank in mine. I got a half tank gallon in mine. [01:18:23] Speaker A: Oh, do we have to live with our current. Our current gas levels? Because my g. My truck is almost out of gas right now. [01:18:31] Speaker B: No, no, she said you got a. She said you got a small sedan with a half tank of gas, so. [01:18:46] Speaker A: I don't even have a truck. That changes the rain barrel. [01:18:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it does. [01:18:53] Speaker A: I can fit. I can fit a few gallons in a sedan. [01:18:57] Speaker B: No, no, dude, we pop in the trunk, we throwing that mother. We leaving the trunk open. We're rolling. [01:19:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fine. [01:19:03] Speaker B: I can make it home before all the water makes it out. All right. Yeah, I'm not taking much by force at this point. You hear a baby crying in nearby house that's been overrun Going in could attract dozens of the infected. Do you risk your life to save it? [01:19:22] Speaker A: That could be a cat meowing. I'll counter. With what, baby? I didn't hear anything. [01:19:33] Speaker B: I see, I see. I can see how this goes. You're right there with me, bro. Why are we gonna get the siren and bring it over to our house now? I don't know that baby. I don't know that baby. [01:19:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it sucks, but there's. There's literally my answer is there's too many questions about it to. To really make a solid decision. Cuz it's like I don't know if that's a baby. I don't know if that's a live baby or if that's a TV that's playing. I don't know if the baby will be dead by the time I get there. I don't know if there's any way to get these things out of that house. [01:20:16] Speaker B: You know what sucks even worse than the situation? [01:20:20] Speaker A: Mm. [01:20:21] Speaker B: Being that baby. Because ain't nobody coming to save your ass. You know what I mean? [01:20:28] Speaker A: Yep. So we got a dead baby. [01:20:32] Speaker B: Yep. Oh, we can't eat it, huh? Because it's probably gonna get bitten. [01:20:42] Speaker A: I bet if we cooked it up real nice. [01:20:45] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie though. Does this not spark your curiosity? And what a zombie baby looks like. Have we seen that in a movie yet? [01:20:54] Speaker A: Closest thing I can think of is train spotting. There has to have been a zombie in him. [01:21:05] Speaker B: And we're proud. Yeah, I would like to see a zombie baby. That would be kind of cool. Just maybe put it in, like, the bathtub. [01:21:16] Speaker A: It can't get out, you know? I mean, yeah, it's a pet. [01:21:19] Speaker B: Just go look at it a couple times and be like, yeah, that's a zombie baby. All right, Survival based questions. [01:21:26] Speaker A: These, these are just. [01:21:27] Speaker B: You find a smart home. [01:21:29] Speaker A: Zombie babies. [01:21:32] Speaker B: Oh, you looked them up? [01:21:33] Speaker A: Yeah, a few of them are you. [01:21:36] Speaker B: Find a smart home, fully stocked and solar powered, but it's occupied by a teenager live streaming their survival on Tick Tock. They're exposing your location. Do you stay, silence them or move on? Here's the thing. We're dealing with animalistic zombies. I don't really give a shit if he's live streaming on Tick Tock. Yeah, Internet's kind of iffy. We're only supposed to be texting, so I just. I don't know how. [01:22:03] Speaker A: Well, wondering why number one keeps tempting me with all these hot young boys. Why does she. [01:22:11] Speaker B: I did notice, like, everybody's a teenager. [01:22:14] Speaker A: Why is she fixated on me coming across a teenager and I have to decide whether I'm gonna have him or not? [01:22:27] Speaker B: I mean, honestly, I don't care if he live streams, but if it's solar powered, it's fully stocked. This is one where I'm like, hey, we're here to stay. [01:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And like, it just doesn't have to be by force. I mean, I can convince this kid to let us stay. He's alone. He's alone. Why does he want to be alone? [01:22:55] Speaker B: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you. What are you guys doing here? What are you guys doing here? [01:22:59] Speaker A: Take your fucking pants off. Okay, wait, what scenario were we doing? [01:23:13] Speaker B: No use, right? I mean, honestly, the follow up questions are, you could live stream this. Ain't nobody coming to help. [01:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's like, hey, I'm. I'm not here to hurt you, man. I'm just. I'm here from a group. [01:23:29] Speaker B: I don't want you here, bro. I don't want you here. Don't come in taking my stuff. [01:23:35] Speaker A: I'm not gonna take anything from you. I'm from a group. We're surviving down the street. [01:23:40] Speaker B: No, Sorry. Look at this, guys. This guy thinks he's just gonna come over and negotiate his way inside. [01:23:47] Speaker A: I don't want to do that. I want to help you. [01:23:50] Speaker B: How are you gonna help me? I don't need your help. [01:23:53] Speaker A: You're alone on a platform. No one's watching anymore. You need people around you. What are you gonna do if a zombie comes? Right? [01:24:01] Speaker B: I got seven live viewers right now. [01:24:04] Speaker A: Buddy, the front door is open. A zombie could come in right now and kill you. You need people to help protect you. [01:24:15] Speaker B: I don't need anybody. I. I would. I. I just want you to leave. I just want you to leave. And why are you looking at me like that? Why are you looking me up and down? [01:24:23] Speaker A: Because the creator of this game keeps tempting me. I've never seen basketball shorts so short in my life. [01:24:40] Speaker B: All right, so you're. You're. You're gonna. You're gonna. I. I'm staying. I don't care how it happens. I'm staying with my clan. Like, we're taking over this house. You either play game, you either play ball, or you be outside. But you ain't. You ain't staying here alone. [01:25:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, at. What? Like, how young is this kid? Where. It's like, I'm basically your legal guardian now? [01:25:09] Speaker B: Like, 13 and 19. [01:25:11] Speaker A: Third. Yeah, I know, but, like, if. If he's 13, then, like, you're staying with us, and that's not up to you. If he's 19, it's like, get the out of here, you know? Like, that's a totally different scenario. [01:25:28] Speaker B: I think they're staying with me no matter what, but we're staying here. You ain't got no say. This is like life or death in any other situation. Sure, we can go. This ain't no negotiation, bro. This is a dictatorship. You don't like it, get the out. [01:25:44] Speaker A: But you're dealing with resentment now. Now, this kid is. [01:25:48] Speaker B: Don't give a. [01:25:49] Speaker A: This kid is under your roof, and he resents that you took this place from him. And maybe he waits for you to fall asleep and then, like, slits your throat. I mean, that's something I don't want to live with. So it's in my best interest to get it to be his idea. [01:26:07] Speaker B: I guess I played by ear. Let's. Okay, now you're the teenager, dude. This is. This. We gotta stay in numbers. We gotta stay in numbers, bro. [01:26:18] Speaker A: You have made. You have made a compelling argument. I have. I've thought over the facts logically, and I've decided you're right. You guys should stay here. You see how easy that was? Fuck, man, that was. [01:26:33] Speaker B: If there's any other answer. There's any fucking other answer. We're walking outside. [01:26:38] Speaker A: Sir, you're visibly erect, and I can tell that this is not gonna go well for me. If I say no. [01:26:47] Speaker B: Why does it gotta be three of you? All right, you're out of clean water. The only nearby source is a corporate distribution center guarded by private security drones. Do you risk sneaking in? First of all, I don't know any security drones. Like flying drones, I don't know. But drones in general, I ain't with them. They gotta be flying drones because they got a battery. They. Here's the thing. They got a battery life. Every drone has a battery life. If it's a walking security guard drone, guarantee you they're getting up by. By zombies real quick because they don't understand the concept of be quiet. If it's flying drones, well, I just gotta wait for them to leave, live their battery life, and we're going in. [01:27:40] Speaker A: Yeah, unless someone is guarding it. It's at a corporate distribution center. So does that mean this place is, like, up and running and they're giving out water? [01:27:52] Speaker B: I don't. I think maybe it did at one time, but in this seventh day that we're in, the drones are still active, but the distribution center is not. So I'm assuming again, battery life. I'm going in when the drones Fucking. [01:28:10] Speaker A: Yeah, go in there quick because everyone else is gonna get that water while you can. [01:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You get a notification from your smartwatch. Vitals abnormal, possible infection detected. You're with others. Do you share the warning or keep it to yourself? [01:28:29] Speaker A: What? Watch? I would. I plead the fifth. [01:28:38] Speaker B: Yeah, this is broken. [01:28:42] Speaker A: No, honestly, I would be slapping my wrist going, shut the up. You didn't hear anything. [01:28:52] Speaker B: If I didn't get bitten. I'm not saying anything. [01:28:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:00] Speaker B: And I probably would exercise the chain me up thing. I'd probably exercise that. Just keep me in the house, but chain me up just in case. [01:29:11] Speaker A: Well, what are we going to do with you if you do turn? You're chained up, but now we got to get you out. [01:29:19] Speaker B: Chained up. Got to get me out. [01:29:23] Speaker A: Civil War, No. [01:29:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:29:31] Speaker A: I could do the eye and then get it into your brain. You'd probably be dead at that point. [01:29:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, It'd have To be something like that or, like, chain me up in a manner where, like, I'm not. I'm not mobile. [01:29:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:52] Speaker B: So that way. Or like, to a chair where you just come up and. And do a quick wheelchair. You know? [01:30:03] Speaker A: Wheelchair. [01:30:05] Speaker B: You got one of those? [01:30:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I've got one of those walkers with the little seat. [01:30:12] Speaker B: Okay. Okay, that'll do. [01:30:15] Speaker A: All right. [01:30:17] Speaker B: You see a working Tesla with autopilot idling, destination set to a rumored safe zone, but it's locked and occupied by a family trying to escape. Do you take it? Hack it? Let it go? Fuck, I let it go, bro. Yeah. [01:30:35] Speaker A: I'm not with a family. [01:30:38] Speaker B: A baby's smart monitor signal is still transmitting. The house is full of infected. Of the infected, but the monitor shows the baby alive going and risk your life. But do you ignore a digital cry for help? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I ignore any potential risk. I'm just letting you know right now. [01:31:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a tough one because there's no guarantees of you surviving. There's no guarantees of the baby still being alive when you get there. You know? Exactly. There's just a lot. There's a lot of unknowns. It's that scenario that lead me to say it's not worth the risk. But this is exactly the kind of situation on Walking Dead where I would see it and be like, nope, that's immoral. You go in, you do what you can, you know? I don't know. [01:31:48] Speaker B: Yeah, but here's. Here's how I look at it. If you're dead weight, you're injured, and it's not something when you heal. I'm not saying, like, you got a scratch on your arm or something. Duct tape to take care of. I'm saying, like, you're paraplegic. I'm sorry, bro. I hate to do this, but for the better good of the. Of the herd, you gotta go. Like, I can't. I cannot. I cannot carry you, bro, if you're a crying baby. I'm not bringing that loud ass into my house where everybody else is so you could attract attention. I'm just not. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. [01:32:43] Speaker A: I mean, I'm just trying to think of any way it makes sense, and it doesn't, but, you know, one more. [01:32:52] Speaker B: Mouth to feed, maybe it's one more mouth to feed. And the cries. No. Ain't doing it. [01:32:59] Speaker A: Maybe once the house is fortified and if there's plenty of food, then, like, I would. [01:33:06] Speaker B: Now, don't get me wrong, I'd risk it if we did. The. The. The corporate Office. [01:33:14] Speaker A: Okay. [01:33:16] Speaker B: Cry all you want. We're on the fifth floor. No one can hear us. Cry all you want, but I'm not doing it in a two story house. Don't care how many solar panels you have. How. [01:33:34] Speaker A: How well could you hear a crying baby on the outside of a house? Depends on how well insulated it is. [01:33:47] Speaker B: It does. Until you have a room with a window, you're gonna hear it. You never walked by a house. You've never walked by a house and heard something that maybe you think you probably shouldn't have heard? Whether it's sex, an argument, crying baby? [01:34:12] Speaker A: I wish. No, the windows are usually open and I'll hear someone, like, doing the dishes. And I'll hear dishes clanking and stuff. But the window's open, you know? [01:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I don't know. I'm not doing it. Anything with noise is not coming into my residence. [01:34:36] Speaker A: Yep, I think we're in agreement. Well, that was a horribly depressing end. [01:34:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it kind of was. Because it never ends well. I mean. [01:34:55] Speaker A: I'm just sad that I never got to that teenage boy. [01:35:04] Speaker B: Well, here's the thing. The knife's still young, you know, he's not going anywhere. [01:35:12] Speaker A: Write me five more examples where I've got to decide what to do with this boy with this fit. Tick tock, boy. We didn't even get to my harem. I think I'm gonna have a harem. [01:35:35] Speaker B: I've heard that before. What is a harem? [01:35:37] Speaker A: Like a. Like a gaggle of. [01:35:41] Speaker B: I thought that. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's like more than one. Like, you have a bunch of concubines. [01:35:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll have my bottom. Like, my wife will be my bottom bitch. And she's the one who, like, deals with the other bitches. [01:35:58] Speaker B: All right, I'm gonna throw in a little scenario, okay? Okay. We're a year into this motherfucker, right? We're a year in. We've been able to survive. We got maybe 15 people in the house. [01:36:17] Speaker A: Okay? [01:36:18] Speaker B: You're the chief dick. You're the chief dick. You've been calling shots, you know, You've been making the decisions. I mean, you fucking anybody and everybody or. What are we doing for satisfaction? We doing orgies? What are we doing? Swinging? We just swapping wives. What are we doing? [01:36:40] Speaker A: I would have a strict no swinging, no screw in other people's wives. Because when you read the stories of the cults, that's when it always goes haywire. They start the other dudes wives, and then those dudes start to resent them. And then the whole empire comes crumbling down. So, nope, I gotta. I gotta go find widowed and bring them into the. [01:37:12] Speaker B: No where a year in. Where you're in, there's two or three widowed women that. That come in. [01:37:19] Speaker A: Okay. [01:37:19] Speaker B: Serious shit. Serious shit. You're with your wife still. Serious shit. You fucking them? No joke. Are they hot? Yeah, Rob, one of them's hot. The other two are. The other two are. Are like Gwyneth Paltrows. If they were famous, they'd be famous. [01:37:41] Speaker A: So they're Owl or Gwen Paltrow in Royal Tenenbaums. [01:37:47] Speaker B: Gwyneth Paltrow's her whole career. She's a plain Jane. But she's not. She's not a celebrity. [01:37:56] Speaker A: Here's the important distinction. Gwyneth Paltrow at 30. Plain Jane is totally tolerable. She's like 85 now. It's not working anymore. She's probably not. [01:38:13] Speaker B: That was probably really. You have a. You have a Marissa Tomei. Okay. [01:38:20] Speaker A: Okay. [01:38:21] Speaker B: You have a Kate Hudson and you have a Sabrina Carpenter. That's who you've taken in. [01:38:34] Speaker A: Can Marissa. [01:38:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Kill one one and. Yeah, kill one one and rape one. Go. [01:38:45] Speaker A: Can I rape and kill the same one? [01:38:49] Speaker B: All right, so yeah, you got those three. Are you really starting a. A harem or like, are you looking out for your wife? [01:38:59] Speaker A: Absolutely. What are we talking about? [01:39:02] Speaker B: I'm right now, dude. [01:39:04] Speaker A: I'm in charge. You're alive because of me, and you're gonna. [01:39:09] Speaker B: So you're gonna let your wife know. [01:39:11] Speaker A: You're gonna sit there and pretend that you get to decide whether I do this or not? That's crazy. [01:39:18] Speaker B: Really? [01:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:21] Speaker B: You don't think that cause resents. That doesn't cause the sex. Same resentment. That teenager that wouldn't leave the house willingly, wouldn't let us in willingly, and I let him stay. You don't think it caused somewhat same resentment your wife? And you're like, hey, this how it's going down? [01:39:39] Speaker A: Do you think that maybe it would inspire her to sex it up a little bit, you know, have a goal to shoot for? This is a lesson in goal setting, really, if you think about it. [01:39:57] Speaker B: That's the name of the podcast. This is a lesson in goal setting. I'm thinking if I'm with Miami, she's with me at the time. Just so happened we were together. Or she made her way here. First of all, she's got a Tesla, really quiet car. [01:40:17] Speaker A: That's perfect. [01:40:18] Speaker B: So. Right. So that's our fucking, like, undercover shit. I got two Tahoes Fully running, old school, big body, new school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our third one just got repossessed the other night. Yeah, they came and took that real quick. Three Tahoes I, I had, now I got two. [01:40:48] Speaker A: Why and how and where was I? [01:40:51] Speaker B: Alright, so the first one was the one that I've always had. Yeah, Right. In the divorce, I found out that the title is in her name, but the loan is in mine. So I never tried to get it. I was like, hey, sign it over to me. She was like, refinance. It was like, I'm not refinancing it, just sign it over to me. She wouldn't do that. Whether I refinance it or not doesn't change the name on the title. So she had to add me to the title and I had to take her off. But she never did that. So because she wouldn't do that, I went, got myself another Tahoe that I could register, that was mine. And before we separated, we had bought a second Tahoe. So she had that one. And the idea was, I'll give you the one in your name, you give me the one in both of our names. She didn't want to do that, so I had the one in her name. She had the one in both our names. Well, the transmission went out in the one in both of our names. So she text me one day, you can have the Tahoe. Now it's in a parking lot. Da da da da. Transmission went out, so I had it towed to a transmission company, got the transmission, new transmission put in, and so now I had the old one, the one that she forfeited because the transmission went. And the one I bought because she wouldn't sign over, the old one. Wow. So that's how all that went down. [01:42:34] Speaker A: Which one was taken? [01:42:37] Speaker B: The one that was in both of our names. [01:42:39] Speaker A: Okay, so not the oldest one. [01:42:41] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's hidden in the garage. Hidden because yes, A, a law firm is trying to get me to pay on it and I'm like, so by time she finally agreed to sign it over, I called the bank to let them know and they were like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we, we sold that to a law firm. Out of our hands now. [01:43:08] Speaker A: Great. [01:43:09] Speaker B: Okay, whatever. So there's a law firm coming after us. I don't give a. If I get a couple bonuses and save up a little bit, I'll pay everything off. I only owe like 7,000 on it. I'm sure they take four. The other one that just got repoed, that's the one that I'm kind of worried about, because I think we owe, like, 27, 000 on it, and they could probably sell for, like, 18. So I'll owe 10, but I'll wait for all that to come down the pipeline. I don't really give a. [01:43:41] Speaker A: That's rough. [01:43:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it is what it is, though. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time, like, Miami got went, you know? I was at Miami's house when number three called, and she was like, hey, like, the Tahoe got re. Repoed. And I'm like, okay. She's like, yeah, you know? And I'm like, you sure it's repo? She's like, yeah, we called around, you know, I'm sorry. And I'm like, I don't give a. You cool? She's like, yeah, I'm cool. I'm like, then I'm cool. I don't give a. About it. And so, like, Miami is like, what was that about? I was like, oh, the Tahoe got repoed, and I'll call in tomorrow. And then she asked me the next day, did you call him like, the Tahoe? I'm like, no. You know. She's like, so the next day goes by. She's like, did you call in Tahoe? I'm like, no. She's like, man, that's on your credit. And I'm like, yeah, I really don't give a. And she's looking at me like I'm nuts. She's like, really? I'm like, I've had in my name since I was, like, nine. My parents put utilities in my name. They put, you know, anything they could put in our name. Our kids name, their kids names. They did. I was like, this isn't the first car I've had repoed. And I've had good credit since then. I really don't give a shit. Falls off. In a couple years, I'll pay it off with whatever law firm that picks it up. When I get a bonus. I don't really give two shits. Honestly. I said. I just. I got tired of fucking making a $600 payment a month. So I really. Fuck. [01:45:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a lot. [01:45:11] Speaker B: So in. My new Tahoe is 950amonth. So it was just like, dude, I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't really give two shits. Like, it saved me some money, so I'm good. Yeah. [01:45:24] Speaker A: So anyways, you've got Miami. You've got it. You've got two Tahoes. [01:45:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we plow through whatever we want and we fucking sneak into whatever we want. [01:45:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:45:37] Speaker B: You know, we use her for the fucking undercover shit. You know? Shit, we gotta sneak in and get in and get out. We use mine for the fucking running over fucking zombies and fucking tracking them away from whatever we're trying to get, you know. [01:45:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So you could spare a car if you needed to drive yourself away to kill yourself. [01:46:00] Speaker B: Oh, for sure, for sure. Yeah, but I'm not doing that either. I'm probably just going to block down the street, tying myself up. Honestly. [01:46:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I just don't want anyone to find me. [01:46:14] Speaker B: No one's going outside, bro. Outside's off limits. That's honestly how it is. You're gonna have cabin fever. I'm sorry. [01:46:21] Speaker A: They're gonna supplies now, now that I'm gone. [01:46:26] Speaker B: I mean, that's the good news. I got a ton of board games, you know. [01:46:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:46:33] Speaker B: Game night every night, you know. [01:46:38] Speaker A: Yep. Well, that was the zombie scenario. [01:46:42] Speaker B: All right. Rob Zombie, it's been great chatting with you tonight. [01:46:45] Speaker A: You as well, Bruce. Always. This has been pseudonyms, everyone. Have a wonderful week. [01:46:52] Speaker B: Love you, man.

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