Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Okay, so here's. Here's what happened tonight.
So I have a crippling depression and can't work up the energy to shave my head.
So my hair has been growing out for three weeks.
I. I wore a hat last week, but this week I was like, all the hats are out on the bar.
I don't have time to get one. But you know what? This is just my buddy Brooks. I'll be damned if I'm going to be insecure in front of my. My best buddy, Brooks.
So I called you up, even though I was pretty sure you'd probably call me if you were ready. I was like, I'm probably getting him a little too early, but let me call him. And it's not Brooks that answers the phone. It's a cute young chick that answers the phone with my stupid bald head.
Perfect.
Got a couple of. Got a couple of red wines. Got a couple of red wines in me. I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna be me.
You know, I'm gonna dance like no one's watching.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Someone's watching.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: Someone is watching.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: What are you.
I like the beard, bro.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: Thanks.
Trying to do the little horseshoe with the mustache, but last time I tried it, it wasn't long enough to match my mustache. So I'm just gonna go super long and then shape it up and make it match.
Barber.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I like it. Looking good.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: Thanks, man.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: So what's up with this? What's up with this depression?
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Oh, you know, I'm just unemployed. And really, the. The problem is unemployable.
I don't. You know, unemployed is a temporary situation.
Unemployable is a little more permanent.
You know, I'm just like. I'm. I'm a day away from just, like, putting in an application at Little Caesars. And all I can think, when I. When I think about doing that, I'm like, I've never worked with food. I guarantee you. They look at my resume and they say, fuck off. We're not hiring someone who's never worked with food before.
Like, I probably can't get that job. It's probably above me.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: I would like to talk to you.
I know we talked about how much you needed to make, so that kind of sucks, but.
All right, well, you know what you need to make. So do you think growing out your hair.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: I would be what you should.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: Be doing right now?
[00:02:54] Speaker A: I would be extremely worried about it if I was gonna go on a job interview, but that hasn't happened, nor will it in the near future. So I certainly would shape up pretty quickly if that was gonna happen, but.
Huh.
[00:03:13] Speaker B: Well, all right, then I was gonna say, you guys are always welcome to stay here until you pay down some debt and get on your feet, but, you know. Well, then you come work for my company.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Be a long time.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: It is what it is, my friend. All right.
So you called me Brooke tonight.
Yeah, we've been done.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: Okay, perfect.
It. I'm gonna call you. Done.
Perfect.
So we were talking about conspiracy theories last week, and we actually ran out of time to finish the list, which I should pull up. I lost that when my computer died.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Well, while you're doing that, I'm going to welcome everybody to Pseudonyms. Oh, yeah, welcome, guys.
We got 100 followers now, so we're celebrating, you know, 100,000.
We're monetized now.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: We were. We were going to have Charlie Kirk on this week, but, you know, things happen.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Dude, what are your thoughts on that, bro?
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Honestly, I joke because I'm. I'm pretty heartbroken about it that. I don't know if that just came at a bad time for me emotionally, but, you know, I wasn't like a huge fan of his, but I was aware of him and I thought what he did was pretty cool with the. The college campuses and the open dialogue and stuff. And he was always on a lot of podcasts that I listened to regularly.
So, you know, even though he was a little more right wing than my camp, like, he was definitely in with those people quite a bit.
So I was just very aware of him and I thought he was a really impressive young guy. He was my age, you know, he was 31. And, you know, I started watching the news before he was dead, so I was like watching the whole thing like, he's in critical condition. Here's what's at. And like, all the people on Fox News are friends with him, so they're all get choked up. They're all crying while they're reporting the news. You know, it was surreal to watch. And then they finally had to announce that. That he was dead and just really bummed me out, you know, it's up.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it got me. Like, I probably found out, I don't know, probably about 20, 10, 15 minutes after it happened.
And I'm like, oh, crap. You know, and they're saying he's in critical condition and all this. And when he passed, man, it just, it was like, I usually don't get emotional about people, like four people I don't really know, you know.
And when he passed, it was like, oh, there was just like a pit in my stomach, dude. Yeah, it was just like something didn't feel right. I was saddened by the fact that like one of the Tik Toks I came across was his kids, you know, just playing on the beach and he's playing with them and I'm like, dude, like, here is someone that was legitimately a good dad.
[00:06:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: A good citizen. It's a Christian, you know, like, yeah, I mean like a good Christian, a good husband.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: Like the, like, like a solid, like a solid. I mean, he was, he, he was a Calvary Chapel guy, you know, which, you know, you, you and I are no longer. But I mean, they're solid people in Calvary Chapel. It's not like you don't know your Bible when you're in Calvary Chapel, you know, and yeah, yeah, it just sucks. Yeah, it, I understand what you're talking about with the pit in your stomach. I, I had the same feeling and I couldn't really put my finger on it, but I think what it was was when he was in critical condition, I had seen the video from up above where he, where it looked like he got shot in the chest.
And I was like, okay, this is bad, but something just tells me he's gonna be alright like this, you know, he probably would have died instantly if it was really gonna be a thing. And then I saw the video from the side. I don't know if you saw that one.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: I saw a front row video.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Duh. Well, fuck, I wish I could tell you not to watch it, but I saw the one from the side when all the blood was coming out of his neck.
Not 30 seconds later, did I, did I hear them report that he was gone? So I, it was just like, it went from, oh, this is probably going to be okay. This is probably actually going to be a really powerful story to like, oh, he's gone. Like, that's it. There's no, there's no undoing that, you know? Like, there's no, there's no fixing this, you know?
[00:08:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I, I knew he wasn't going to make it because the video I saw was at an angle, but it was front row.
[00:08:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:14] Speaker B: And it was the one I first came across. And like he's sitting there talking and then you hear the snap and then you just see blood squirting out of his neck and I'm like, there's no way he lives. There's no way he lives. Dude. Like this, this sucks.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Yeah, once.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: And then once I saw that one 20 minutes later.
Yeah, about 15 minutes later. It was like he passed. And I was like, dude, it was just. And the shitty part was I had this really cool concert going. I was going to. With my. With my. My lady, and, like, I almost wanted to just cancel. I was so bummed out, dude.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. I did nothing but watch the news all day.
It sucked. It was. It was just a black hole of a day.
[00:08:58] Speaker B: I'm glad we went. It was a good concert. And the guy actually in the middle of it, like, he was. He's like a folk singer, country singer, and he actually stopped. He's young. He seems. He looks like he's maybe 24. And he, like, in the middle of his set was like, dude, like, what a. What a. What a. What a hard day for people today, dude. Like, what a hard day. He's like, I just want to take a moment and let's just pray right now for Charlie Kirk and his. Charlie Kirk's family and, you know, just everybody at Colorado and Duty. Like, he went into, like, a good two minute prayer and it was like, dude, wow. Like, it was. It was. It was really cool to. To kind of be a part of that, if you will.
[00:09:38] Speaker A: Yeah. What's. What's that guy's name?
[00:09:42] Speaker B: Max McNown.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: Okay. I've never heard of him, but that's really cool that he did that.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: I never heard of him either. I just. My lady got tickets and was like, do you want to go? So couple weeks before we went to the concert, I started listening to his albums. He talks a lot about God.
It's not like a. He's not a Christian singer. Yeah, but he, you know, he doesn't deny the fact that he believes in God in his songs. You know, like, he definitely brings them up, you know, like, one of his most attractive traits about a woman is she prays to Jesus, you know, and then.
And then the next day, I'm getting ready to kind of meet up with my mom. And, like, my lady comes in, she's like, bawling, and I'm like, what's going on? And she's like, you know, her son's in naval academy. She's like, naval academy has an active shooter right now. And, like, she plays the. She plays the voicemail from her son because she didn't recognize the number he called from a friend's phone.
And he's like, you know, mom, you know, like, there's an active shooter. We're all like, hiding right now in the locker room. And, you know, they won't, like, they won't let you know. We're all kind of like. It was just.
I'm glad that wasn't the last message she heard from him, because you could just hear the fear in his voice. So he was all right, and then he ended up being all right. Yeah, but.
But the fear in his voice, like, during it, because, again, we knew from his call, we knew about an hour before the news even broadcast anything about it.
So, like, we're all, like, in the dark waiting for phone calls. And, you know, like, apparently his dad had a PD or, I think a PD scanner, and so he's, like, updating, like, you know, my lady. Like, hey, like, you know, right now there's. You know, they haven't found no one. You know, like, they're going door to door, and they're trying to, like, clear the place.
So. But it was just. It was definitely like, just. I don't know, just an emotional couple days, for sure.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And it's. It's. It's weird because it's. Again, it's not like I was a huge fan of him.
I didn't, like, go out of my way to listen to his stuff, but, like, he just moderated a debate between Dave Smith, who I love, and, you know, some other.
And, like, he obviously disagreed with Dave, but he was super cool to him and, like, did. Did a really good job at, like, moderating the. The debate. And, like, I just. I respected him a lot without really knowing too much about him, you know, to tie it into pseudonyms. He's actually credited with coining the term red pilled in the political space or, like, reappropriating that term from the movie for political stuff. Yeah.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: And, yeah, I just. Yeah, I wasn't even. I knew it was a Christian, but I didn't know, like, how much he talked about that and, like, how serious he was about that. So that. That was something, you know, really positive to find out about him in light of all this. But, yeah, I went. I went for a walk with my daughter and listened to a podcast, a movie podcast where Seth Rogen was talking about Big Lebowski.
And so, like, I got totally lost in the podcast and totally forgot about what happened. And then I came back into the house, and my parents were still watching the news, and it was like, oh, yeah, fuck.
Okay. You know, back. Back to reality. You know, it's like I actually managed to forget the big thing that happened probably all year.
And, yeah, just sucked.
[00:13:23] Speaker B: You know, that's the thing. He was. He was really respectful Number three, loved him.
She went and saw him a couple times. Really?
Yeah, when he was at. At some of the universities down here.
But, like. Oh, you know, it sucks because you get people that go online and they're just trashing him. Oh, my good thing he died the way he, you know, like, you know, did you see how he fell over? And. And, you know. Oh. Anyways, you know, what's going on today with you guys? And there's this other guy that is going comment by comment, finding out who these people are and then emailing their employers their responses to Charlie Kirk's death.
There have been, like, 10 people that have already been fired for their comments.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I've heard about a few of those.
Yeah. I mean, I. I think it's fucked up to, like, ruin someone's life over it, but at the same time, like, it takes a special kind of piece of shit to not make a joke about it. You could joke about anything. I'm fine with that. But, like, to be glad about it, you know? And luckily, honestly, if I didn't follow Libs of TikTok, I wouldn't even have seen anything too negative. But they repost all the negative shit to, like, smear the people who are being negative. So, like, I saw some of it there, but I only had one friend on social media that I noticed being shitty about it.
And, you know, which just speaks to, like, how even the left kind of cowboyed up and was respectful to this guy in light of his death. And, you know, Obama said something nice.
You know, AOC said something nice. You know, like, it was. It was kind of cool that in light of this, they could put their bullshit aside and. And just respect the guy.
And at the end of the day.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: Dude, he was a person who had kids, man.
[00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: He had a family. You know, I mean, like, we. I don't. I don't agree with.
Dude, I don't agree with Biden at all.
Or Hunter Biden. I don't wish death on them.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: No.
[00:15:42] Speaker B: You know.
[00:15:43] Speaker A: Yeah, and that's really.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: That's a shitty situation.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: That's really the difference between, like, leftists who are, like, lost in it, who are like two left, if you will, and, like, everyone else, essentially, because, like, no one else is glad when people get murdered, you know? But I mean, it just. I mean, the. The people talking about Trump after he got shot and, you know, so many people, so many of these incidents that have taken place, it's. It's like, it really is a culture of death, and you just don't see people on the right doing that, you know, So I think there's. There's something to be said there. But, you know, it. It was cool in a way, to see J.D. vance fly his body home on Air Force Two, because it's like, man, what a. What a sign of respect for this guy, you know, that he would have appreciated so much. You know, it almost. It almost, in a weird way, like, makes me want to be more Republican, you know, like, almost makes me want to be, like, more patriotic, because I just see the way that that guy just loved the. He just loved the president and he loved the flag and he love. You know, and it's just. I just wish I had a little more of that in my heart, you know, to just be, like, nerding out about Air Force Two, you know what I mean? But, like, that's.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: I always wanted that.
[00:17:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the kind of infectious energy he had.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: You know, I've always, like, respected people who had, like, that deep sense of, like, pride in where they're from, you know what I mean? Because I never really had that growing up. It was kind of like, you know, it wasn't something like, you know, it almost seems like a Southern trait.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:36] Speaker B: You know, but I've always admired that when other people have that.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: So do you think. Do you think it was a.
Do you think it was a random. And I don't say random act in the sense of, like, it just happened out of nowhere? Do you think this was something that would be considered later as a conspiracy from a certain side or a certain agenda?
[00:18:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I did. I did want to talk about this, since the subject is already conspiracy theories.
I've heard a lot of weird stuff that's by. By the hour kind of turning out not to mean anything, but I don't, at the moment have any reason to suspect a conspiracy right now, because I think the story is straightforward. You know, with. With Trump's assassination attempt, there is nothing but unanswered questions.
So there's this void that's kind of like, well, if they're not going out of their way to answer these things, one can safely kind of assume that there's something else going on, because there's no plausible explanations to these things.
With this one.
Yeah, I mean, leftists go nuts and shoot people sometimes. It's. It happens a lot, you know, so it's not crazy to me.
This guy is not reported to have any kind of, like, FBI ties or CIA ties, like so many of them do.
But, you know, some people Brought up that, like, it might be a giant distraction.
And, you know, within 24 hours of this, Israel started bombing Qatar for no apparent reason, and they voted to not release the Epstein files.
So people are going nuts with, like, oh, this was a big distraction. Like, they killed him just to distract from these things. And it's like, he's not the one they're going to kill, dude. Like. Like, there are so many. Candace Owens is going to get popped long before Charlie Kirk if they're going to do that to someone. You know what I mean? Like, Charlie Kirk was not a radical, you know, anti government guy. You know, Like, I don't know if they would do that to him, but maybe that's naive of me. I don't know.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: No, I.
I didn't have him on my celebrity.
[00:20:05] Speaker A: I didn't even think about it. Dude. He was 31 years old, you know.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: It'S just Candace Owens. I have. Yeah, you brought it up. Candace Owens.
[00:20:13] Speaker A: I have, yeah. Yeah. It's not getting any better for her the more she yaps her mouth.
But I would be very bummed to see Candace go.
[00:20:29] Speaker B: She. Would you really?
[00:20:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I love her.
First of all, Wood. Second of all, she's got three young kids, you know, that. That would just.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Not saying. I wouldn't. I definitely would too. But, like, I didn't think you were like, a fan of Candace Owens.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't really pay attention to her, like, celebrity gossip, but when she's doing, like, interesting.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what turned me off about her.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: Yeah, the whole. The Epstein series that she's doing is. Is really interesting. And honestly, the. The Bridget McCrone thing got pretty interesting. I. I couldn't really stop listening to that. That was.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: I don't know who that is.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: It's the.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: Did you hear her one on Kamala Harris when Kamala was running?
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I heard a few of those, but I kind of lost interest in it.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Oh, I followed it, bro. She tore her up. Like, she got family members on. She got.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: It was just. She was lying about Grandma. Yeah.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: Yeah, she's, you know, she's. She's very good at what she does. I read her book. I liked her book.
You know, she's.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: Which one?
[00:21:37] Speaker A: Blackout?
It's. Oh, it's all kind of about, like, putting.
It's all kind of about, like, the stereotypical, like, race relations issues and kind of putting it in perspective and being like, you know, well, here's how many black people are actually killed by the police every year versus versus white people and stuff. Like that, you know, it's. I've read a lot of that kind of stuff before. It wasn't really anything new, but you know, she's a good writer.
Yeah.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: So I read a book she recommended. Chaos.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, I still haven't read that, but I've, I've heard so much about it that I feel like I've read it. Like I have a handle on the content. You know.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: They made a movie about it.
I want to say it was a documentary or something. It wasn't as thorough as the book. And I'm not that guy. I'm not like before you think I'm in your camp on this off.
I'm not one of those guys, like, oh, the book was better, you know, but, but in this case I felt like they didn't do the book any justice because they were trying to fit it into an like an hour documentary, you know, and like the book is so heavy in the sense of how this dude came upon it, you know, and every person he interviewed and who led to who and who did what. Like, it doesn't give you the in depth to connect all the dots. It's kind of like, well, you know, this is what happened. And you know, you don't really get the background of like, dude, he talked to three or four or five, you know, ex cops that were around at that time that, you know, had partaken with Manson and, and New Manson and raised Manson's kid. You know, like, they don't, they don't really get into that in the documentary.
[00:23:25] Speaker A: Yeah, there's, there's too much there. I mean, unless you did like maybe a 10 part documentary, like a, a huge season on Netflix, which is what.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: I thought they should have done. Yeah, they should have definitely done that.
Yeah. Speaking of though, I am writing a book also.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: That's right, that's right.
Speaking of book writing, I met with a guy today, a friend of mine who does audiobooks.
And we haven't officially agreed that he's gonna do the audiobook, but I've delivered him the first draft that's not quite finished yet, but I just wanted to give him an idea of the content and he agreed. If we do decide to do it, he will not take any money up front. He will only do residuals from sales, which is huge because that means I can actually get this done and not have to, you know, raise the money or invest the money, my, you know, up front pocket. Yeah, yeah.
And he's very good at what he does. He's, he's Done a lot of audiobooks, so that's huge. Just met with him today.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Do I know this cat?
[00:24:32] Speaker A: You might know of him. He was a King's Cross guy, so he was after reverence.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Whoa. Big, big shit. I like how you said that. You might not know him, but you might know of him.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Okay, let me rephrase that. Let me rephrase that. Of the many reverence to King's Cross people, he was not one of them. So I met him kind of after we. We stopped going to Reverend, So I don't know if you guys ran in the same circles, but.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: No.
[00:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't. I don't want to say anything because I'm just gonna cut it out anyway because.
[00:25:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I only know Chris.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: All right, let's talk about some of these, man.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: Where's what bothers me?
[00:25:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: We kind of jumped around to different things. We have some we. I. I don't care to talk about the mirrors because to me, that people are just idiots when it comes to mirrors because they're like, how do you see it in the mirror if it's behind a piece of paper?
[00:25:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:25:35] Speaker B: And I'm like, well, because you're at a fucking angle.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: I. Can I be honest?
[00:25:44] Speaker B: Please do.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: I had to Google it.
When I first saw that video, I was like, I have no fucking idea how you can see that in the mirror. Like, I had to Google what it is. So it's. It's more about, like, absorbing the light in the room and reflecting it.
Not that it's, like, perfect. I don't know if that made sense the way I said it, but, like, what we're referring to is if you put, like, a piece of paper on the mirror and you put your hand over it, why is it that you can see your hand on the side of the mirror when. When ostensibly you're covering everything of your hand to the mirror, but it's because the side of the mirror is also absorbing the light in the room and reflecting your hand. So, like, I. I didn't know scientifically how that worked. I had to Google that. It kind of fucked with me.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: This is how I look at it, and this is what really gets me, right? Because it.
It's like right now I'm sitting at an angle of a mirror and I could see my bathroom down the hall.
And it's like, well, technically, I shouldn't see my bathroom because it's down the hall, but I'm at an angle, so I'm going to see what that angle reflects. Where If I put a piece of paper up and I put my hand behind it.
Well, yeah, if I'm directly behind my hand, I'm not gonna see my hand.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: But if I adjust to an angle. So that one, like when people did that, it was just like. I honestly was like, we are getting dumb.
We are in de evolution mode right now.
[00:27:22] Speaker A: I had to google it. I, because I. Well, because think about it. The, the side of the mirror where you're seeing your hand.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: You don't bring this up on job interviews. Right.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: I appreciate that you think I've had a job interview.
Okay, so hour. I really want to, for hour two of this interview, I really want to bring home this mirror point.
Hello, Miss lady, do you have any questions for us?
[00:27:54] Speaker B: Do you have any questions for us, Mr. Dunn?
Yeah, I know she guys got a mirror in the bathroom. Have you guys ever wondered like, how does that work? You know, like.
[00:28:06] Speaker A: Oh no, you know what, never mind. I'll google it. I'll google it. I'm gonna get out of here.
I'll be, I'll be talking to you.
No, but the side of the mirror is flat.
So like the question that I just had was like, well, how would something flush with your hand like this is like off to the side of the paper even.
How would something flush like on the same level as your hand reflect your hand because it's so flat.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: Alright, so this is kind of maybe how I've always looked at it. You know, a pool table, you got a pool table, you got the, you got your cue ball and you're lined up and in front of your cue ball is the nine ball. On the other side of the nine ball is the eight ball you want to hit.
But if you're looking straight down the cue ball, you can't hit that eight ball without hitting the nine ball because there's a nine in between. So you usually angle off of the bumper.
And so I've always looked at mirrors the same way or angles in general. Because of pool. I've always looked at just angles. And so, and I don't know, it's almost like something now that I think of it, like when I was a kid, like if I wanted to check out, it's usually in the car, you know, or somewhere where someone else is writing. You're trying to get their, their expression or their, what they're feeling from without saying nothing. You're kind of just watching them in the mirror.
To me it's the same thing. Like they're not in the middle of the Mirror, but nor am I. I'm at an angle and they're at an angle. Therefore I see on this shiny piece of glass with, with metal, metal reflection on it on the backside, I get to see the reflection of that off of the mirror.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: But in all of those examples you just gave, there is, and I'm not going to explain this well, there's more of a three dimensional aspect where like something is out from the mirror. So yes, at an angle you should be able to see something out from the mirror.
And by the way, I should reiterate, I googled it. I understand why this works. Now. I'm not saying this is crazy. I'm just saying why I had questions when I first came across this video was that like if the paper is flat against the mirror, obviously we understand why we can't see our hand straight on because the paper is covering it, but to an angle.
Well, the, the mirror that's angling, it is still flat.
So like, why would that angle still be able to see something flat against it when it's covered? You know, like it, it kind of, I did kind of have to think about that. You know, look, and you know what, here's the thing. I'm a scientist, you know, I just say I don't blindly believe things. I go in search of answers when I don't understand things. That's what science man.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: Good for you. Good for you.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: I said the same thing.
[00:31:10] Speaker B: It would almost be like, it would almost be like someone hiding behind a corner.
And then like I walk in, I kind of see them from the mirror around the corner. I get it. They're not right up against the mirror.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: The corner's not flat.
[00:31:27] Speaker B: But neither are you. You're the person. But you're the person.
You're eliminating the fact that you are not right up. Your face is not right up on the mirror.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: Yes, but how is the mirror showing me something that the mirror should not be able to see? You know what I mean?
[00:31:48] Speaker B: But it does from that, that angle.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:31:50] Speaker B: Like if I drew so it'd be, it would be like if I put my hand on a piece of paper right up against the wall next to the mirror.
It's it, that angle of the mirror sees it.
The mirror right in front of that paper doesn't see the hand.
It's the mirror next to the paper that sees the hand.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: Yes, it just seems upon first viewing that the angle is not angled. Well, I, I said this terribly. It's not angled. The angle's not angling, it's not Angled enough to show something that extreme.
But that's, that's how I learned that mirrors don't work the way I thought they did. They are not simply reflecting what's in front of them. They are reflecting the light in the room at all, you know, angles that I didn't think were possible.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:44] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:32:44] Speaker B: I didn't know people actually struggle with that. The first time I saw, I was like, these are.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: I mean, I mean, I struggled with it for three seconds and said, there's clearly an answer to this. Let me Google it. And then I got the answer. I didn't, I didn't make a TikTok about it saying, how could this possibly be true?
But my sister does not believe that they're portals to, like, an alternate universe, but she does think that they can, like, reflect spirits. And there are no mirrors in her room.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: Really?
[00:33:18] Speaker A: Yeah, she's, she's kind of afraid of mirrors.
[00:33:22] Speaker B: Sex must be really boring.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: The next she, she also, she three. Dude, if you get her talking about this, she'll go off for, like, half an hour. It's kind of funny, but she, she was saying, like. Yeah, and if you angle two of them together, then they'll, like, they'll start to show you shit. And I've seen some probably fake videos on Instagram of, like, people who are ghost hunting, and they'll do that. They'll probably, they'll point two mirrors toward each other, and you'll see shit in the mirror that's not in the room.
And it's probably doctored, but, you know.
[00:34:02] Speaker B: No, I, I don't know. I, I don't really have a full formulated thought, but I've seen videos where, yeah, like, it's almost endless because you put the mirrors together and then it's like, endless reflection. I get what you're, I get where you're going, for sure.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: That's. That's not what I saw there. They, they put something in the video to, like, make it look like there was, like, something moving across the mirror or something, you know? It wasn't just, like, the endless reflection.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: Well, no, I, I was saying that what I seen was that they were saying, hey, kind of the same thing is like that endless reflection doesn't necessarily create something, but it opens something, if you will.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: All right, so the next. There's the next four, three of them I'm really interested in.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: Okay. All right. I'm excited.
[00:35:00] Speaker B: Let. Let's start with Hitler's death. What do you think?
[00:35:04] Speaker A: I, I, I think it's a, a historical fact.
That a lot of Nazis did flee to South America. I think there's zero evidence that Hitler did not die. When they say he died.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[00:35:21] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: I don't really have a take on it.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: Because I don't know enough.
I do think it's possible that any room he was in had an out.
Dude, have you come across the tick tocks where they translate his.
[00:35:37] Speaker A: His speeches in AI to make it English?
[00:35:41] Speaker B: I think so, yeah. Yeah.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: It's wild how not crazy his speeches were, because, like. Well, I mean, I'm sure if I listened longer, I'd hear some crazy shit. But, like, the one that I heard was just like, I am fighting for this country, and we're gonna rise from the economic disaster that we. I mean, it was all just make America great again.
Like, nothing. It wasn't. It wasn't like, I'm gonna kill the Jews.
It was like, we're gonna. We're gonna bring this country back.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: Christianity.
[00:36:13] Speaker A: Oh, really?
[00:36:14] Speaker B: It was about Christianity in all of Europe. And he was like, dude, like, they're robbing our Christian morals. They're trying to pollute it with. With homosexuality. They're trying to pollute it with. With like. Like, just the shit that we're going through in schools right now with gay shit and fucking transgenders. And he's like, they're trying to, like, you know, polluted. And he's like, I'm fighting for all of Europe. We. I want, you know, we should be a Christian nation, a Christian world. And, like, I'm sitting there like, holy crap, dude. Like, I get it. I get why this dude has such a following.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: I got into a couple arguments at my former workplace with this. This lady who was.
She's what I would describe as a 90s Democrat.
Like, she was socially very conservative. She was like a Christian lady. Didn't believe in gay marriage, super anti abortion, all that stuff. But when it came to, like, welfare and social programs, like, she was all about that. And she was, like, very Democrat in that way. And, like, didn't really want to say anything bad about the Democrats. And I just remember, like, challenging her on the idea of democracy, because I think she.
She was saying, like, she was basically just saying, like, the idea that our, you know, election was rigged is, you know, stupid and all this stuff, and then totally believes that Russia rigged 2016.
But I was just, like, challenging the idea of democracy in general, which is just like, hey, just because, like, the majority of people want something doesn't make it good, you know? And she, like, really struggled with that. And I was like, hitler was democratically elected.
And she was like, no, he wasn't. And I was like, no, Germany was a democratic republic. When he was elect, like, he was very popular.
Like, one of the most popular politicians in German history at that point. Like. Like, he was extremely popular. And she was like, still is. She was like, no, they only voted for him because they were afraid he could kill them or something. I was like, no, dude, he was. He was massively. He was ma. I. I wish I brought this up. He was Time magazine's Man of the year, 1938.
On the COVID in the Nazi uniform. The whole dude. It's crazy.
[00:38:37] Speaker B: I think he was also Chef of the Year in the. In the German cookbook.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Smoked brisket.
[00:38:48] Speaker B: I'm just kidding. He wasn't. He was. He was a baker.
[00:38:51] Speaker A: Well, I was gonna say. I was gonna say. When you were saying that, he was like, you know, they're doing this and they're doing that. They're, you know, turning the Christian soul of this nation and all this stuff to quote Kanye. Who's they?
You know, and it's actually up, like, how that happened because Jews were already being persecuted, like, after World War I, and one of the only jobs that they were allowed to have was to work with finances.
So then the economy crashes, and who do they blame?
The Jews, because they're the ones that are predominating the financial space.
And so they kind of just set them up to be a scapegoat for their economic failures.
Up.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: Now who's laughing?
[00:39:50] Speaker A: The Jews.
[00:39:53] Speaker B: They run everything.
[00:39:56] Speaker A: That's. That's reduction.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: What do you think about Tupac?
[00:40:00] Speaker A: Tupac. I had some fun with this one in the early days of the Internet.
And for me, the early days were, like, 2008, there was that photo that came out that showed him, and they. They, like, tracked the geographical. Something on the photo and determined that it came from Cuba. And he had an aunt that fled to Cuba. So they were like, he faked his death and he went to Cuba to be with his aunt. Like, makes total sense.
That's. That's how he's still releasing music 30 years later.
No, I don't. I don't think there's anything to that.
Although Suge Knight was happy to say that there was something up going on, and he was the one in the car with him.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: So there is that dude on Tick Tock that's claiming to be Tupac because he resembles him. I'm not buying that.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Nah, I. You know, here's. So I. I had A friend who got really lost in the QAnon stuff. He was very into QAnon and just believed all this stuff.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: And what's QAnon?
[00:41:12] Speaker A: Oh, QAnon is a long story. I'm really surprised that's not on here. We should be talking about that.
[00:41:18] Speaker B: Let's talk about it, because I know nothing about it.
[00:41:20] Speaker A: Okay, so on.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: I've heard of QAnon, but I don't know who they are.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: It was on.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: I thought it was like Queer Anonymous or something.
[00:41:29] Speaker A: No, no, it was on 4chan. This, like, it's kind of like a message board. You know, it's kind of like in the old days before social media, we had like, not chat rooms, but they would be like message boards where you could post something and then people could kind of comment on it. And it was, you know, just. There would be like a gun forum and a lost forum and all these things. But that's kind of what 4chan was. And they. There were these posts coming out from Q and the, the name was just Q. And they were claiming to be on the inside in the White House. And then they would make these predictions like, you know, this, this person is gonna, you know, vote on this thing, or, you know, this Supreme Court justice is going to be nominated today, and the vote's going to be 241 to 15 or something. You know, and they got a couple of predictions, right? And so people started to believe that this really is someone working on the inside in the White House.
Maybe someone like Steve Bannon or Flynn, you know, or people like that. Eventually it just turned into this is probably Trump himself posting about things. And so kind of got to like. So basically the idea was that, like, Trump is going to fix everything.
He's actually. We're right in the midst of arresting all of the pedophiles and all of the people drinking adrenochrome and all this stuff. And you're going to be seeing Barack Obama and handcuffs within the week. And there's. And there was just a bunch of different theories about, like, what was going on. And like, one of the things that my friend told me was like, Obama was assassinated.
And in a couple of weeks they'll probably have a story about him like, dying in a plane crash or something.
Crickets.
Nothing happened, you know, and, and things like that. And it's like, well, Biden is a clone.
And, you know, there's things like that. Like a weird1 was, JFK Jr. Is actually alive. He did not die. And he's actually gonna be Trump's vice president in 2020 and things like that, you know, and it's like, yes, no, Trump knows that they're fixing the election.
He, you know, he arranged this whole thing so that they would fix the election and then he could prove it and then he could get all of them arrested and he would win.
And then the inauguration comes and goes and he never does shit, you know, so it's just like, it was just one of those things where it really petered out after Biden became president because nothing came true. But there were a lot of theories about, like, he's going to, you know, he's going to bring in the National Guard to basically, like, arrest all these people in government that are doing the wrong thing things. And he's, you know, he's already arrested these people. These are just clones pretending to be these people. And then pretty soon the truth is going to come. Like, there were just a bunch of different, you know, things like that. And there's a documentary on HBO Max that, like an eight part documentary, maybe the best documentary I've ever seen in my life. And this guy basically exposed who the real Q was. And he was like the son of the guy who ran 4chan and like, question. Yeah.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: Have you ever seen a documentary called Cops?
[00:45:17] Speaker A: Did I tell you that? That randomly came on the TV and I ended up watching like three episodes and I was like, all right, I kind of get why he likes this, right?
[00:45:31] Speaker B: 1-32-Ambush. We got gunshots.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, the one. You've probably seen it. The one I saw was this black guy in a hotel room and he is naked.
[00:45:43] Speaker B: Yep, naked. And he stole.
[00:45:45] Speaker A: Yeah, stole.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: Stole a bottle of liquor.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, that's the one, dude.
[00:45:49] Speaker B: And he takes him outside and the cop totally gives him some stupid ass, like.
[00:45:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:53] Speaker B: So what do you, you know, oh, I'm just stuck on, you know, crack or drugs. And he's like, come on, man. Like, you know, you got to kick that. And gives him a pep talk. And it was like, it was.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: It was very much like a Dog the Bounty Hunter style. Like, like, pep talk. And it actually kind of got me for a second. I was like, God, like, I'm glad that there's cops like that out there, you know, that are, like, being nice and not, you know, just fucking ramming his head through a windshield, you know? And then I was like, oh, no, wait, wait, wait. They. They took him off to jail. He's fucked. Like, you can say whatever you want. That dude's life is over.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Yeah, dude's been Busted, like, every state up until this one got busted again. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Dude, I can't believe you knew exactly what episode.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: Dude, I'm telling you, dude, it's like when I go to bed, that's what comes on. Like, I put it on because I got 24, seven cops.
[00:46:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:46] Speaker B: I got no commercials.
[00:46:47] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
Dude, it's straight.
[00:46:51] Speaker B: Because with commercials, it sucks. Dude, commercials are as long as, like, each segment. Yeah, you know, it's like commercial, three, four minutes segments only three or four minutes. Commercial again.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: And then the last one's a little longer. No, this. It's straight cop after cop after cop after cop. Do I get a ton in. You know? Yeah, I'm getting three episodes to your. Like, two, you know, I don't know.
[00:47:16] Speaker A: Oh, sorry. I had a point that I.
[00:47:20] Speaker B: My bad.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: I totally forgot I was making a point.
My. My friend was super into QAnon. And the thing that I always tripped him up on when he would tell me these crazy theories was. All right, let's say this is. This is going on.
Why the clues?
Like, why are there always these breadcrumbs that you, a layperson on the Internet, can just piece together and be like, well, because there's 56 words in this sentence. And in 1956, what was going on was that 56 people said, it's just like, so why. Okay, if they're fixing this whole thing and there's a giant conspiracy, why are they leaving you clues to figure it out? That's the one thing that just never added up to me.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
I don't know, man. I don't know enough about it.
Helen Keller, which claims the death and blind author and activist was a fraud.
Okay. I've always wondered that. How'd this know how to write?
[00:48:30] Speaker A: I mean, there's the story that about, like, how she learned to communicate through, like, tapping on the palm and stuff. But, I mean, dumb dumb or sorry, deaf, dumb and blind, you have no framework for understanding language.
You can't speak, you can't hear, you can't see anything.
Like how you know.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: And you wrote a journal.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Do you. Wait, wait, are you.
Are you getting her confused with Anne Frank?
[00:49:12] Speaker B: Soon as you said it, I was like, damn it. I'm getting her mixed up with the girl that hid.
[00:49:19] Speaker A: Can you imagine Helen Keller hiding up in the attic?
Helen, be quiet. The Nazis are here to be quiet.
[00:49:30] Speaker B: So what did Helen Keller do?
[00:49:32] Speaker A: She was deaf, dumb, and blind. And she, like, learned how to communicate with her tutorial and Then like started like understanding language and finding ways to communicate. And then she ended up like writing.
I mean probably like you know, giving the words to someone and then they type it for her. But she ended up, you know, having a pretty fulfilled. I think she got married.
Yeah.
That guy must have been kind of a freak.
[00:50:04] Speaker B: Right?
All right, this is where I wanted to land.
Flat Earth.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: Flat Earth. Okay.
All right. This is your moment, man. Convince me right now.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: I'm, I, I'm curious. I'm just curious.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: I'm just asking questions here.
[00:50:24] Speaker B: I've seen some old maps.
They have Caucasia on it. I've always wondered why we were considered Caucasian.
There are older maps that have Caucasia.
[00:50:35] Speaker A: That's like Iran thing that I.
[00:50:39] Speaker B: No clue. No. Caucasia was supposedly out like so on this map it was like what we know as like the seven continents and then.
Or countries. Is it countries? Countries.
[00:50:52] Speaker A: Right, yeah, continents. There's seven continents.
[00:50:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
And then there was like a border and then there were like four or five other larger land masses. One of them Caucasia. And then there was like the ice wall.
And they're the, they're, they're, they're not.
I wouldn't say they're hard to find.
Like if you googled them, people have shown like the, the old maps.
You know, like people have ripped open houses and then like on the back of you know, a piece of like. No, I wouldn't say drywall, but a piece of like furniture. There was, there's an old ass map that we wouldn't recognize as what we know is the world today.
But then where do we get these pictures that the Earth is round from? NASA.
I mean that's where we're getting our, our is from NASA. The, the thing that was started by someone who was sat under. What, Aleister Crowley?
[00:52:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Jim Parsons.
I don't know if it's that we're necessarily getting it from NASA.
I think there, I think the idea of a round Earth was.
I mean it's in the Bible, so I mean it was definitely like an idea.
[00:52:20] Speaker B: Is a circle round?
[00:52:21] Speaker A: Yeah. What? Yes, of course.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: I mean can a circle be flat?
[00:52:27] Speaker A: Yeah, sure.
[00:52:28] Speaker B: And still be round.
[00:52:29] Speaker A: But I, what I've heard is that there, there was an idea of around Earth.
And then kind of toward the dark ages, we kind of went back to a flat Earth and then we, we started to kind of based on you know, angle of sunlight and all these like astronomical things that we were kind of investigating in like the thousands kind of came back around to, like, around Earth must be the way things. Like something must be going around and around.
[00:53:02] Speaker B: Let me just make it clear. I'm not a flat Earther. All I'm saying is I don't technically know what is truth.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: Because the sources I'm getting it from could definitely be dictated. All I've known as a kid, I've always wondered when I put an ant on my basketball, an ant, an insect ant, and I spin the basketball as fast as I can, the ant never stays on.
He always goes flinging off.
So why someone on this earth is spinning way fast? Am I not flying off? I've always wondered that as a kid.
[00:53:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:43] Speaker B: I'm sure you're gonna answer it right now.
[00:53:45] Speaker A: Well, I only have my understanding of it, and I'm sure a scientist would probably listen to me and be like, now you're. You're totally right for all the wrong reasons.
My understanding is that the. The.
The speed at which we're spinning basically brings the force inward.
So, like, the basketball is not spinning fast enough and also doesn't have a core like the Earth does. We have, like, a very heavy core, and we're revolving around the sun, which is even a more intense core than we have. And so the. The high pressure and speed of that brings us down, not flying out.
But that's. That's all I really understand of it.
[00:54:36] Speaker B: Now. I have gone on those spinning things at the. At the park, and I do notice when you lean out, you don't go as fast as when you're in the middle.
You know what I'm talking about?
[00:54:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:48] Speaker B: Okay.
I've also noticed that when someone's on my back, no matter if I'm out or in, they can't really hold on.
And I seem like when I'm in, it's a pretty heavy core for the spinning I'm doing.
Just saying. All I'm saying is I don't know what to believe.
[00:55:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. That's kind of the tough thing is that, like, we will never have the resources to do our own science on this particular issue.
[00:55:20] Speaker B: Exactly. And I've heard that. Rainbows. And I'm looking it up right now. Rainbows.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: And also I've heard that.
And if you. If you add up the numbers in 2020, it actually means that Covid was gonna.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Well, hear me out.
If there's a flat Earth and there's a dome over us. Right.
And angels. Angels.
Australia is near the edge of the Earth. Let's just say it is.
I've heard. Because that's where the dome kind of starts to come down, that rainbows aren't as round or as peaked or as circular. I don't know, they're a lot more flatter.
And so I was just looking up rainbows in Australia and some of them are like that, for sure. Some of them are really flat.
But then I also. All those look like reflections of cameras though, because there's several of them or they're circles.
I don't know, man. I just.
[00:56:29] Speaker A: Actually, I'm seeing what you're saying. They're very low.
[00:56:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:35] Speaker A: Huh.
[00:56:36] Speaker B: And they're saying that's because it's closer to the edge of the firmament. And that's what we're seeing as a reflection of the sun pass through the firmament.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: Interesting.
I'm gonna ask chat gbt.
I'm gonna see what kind of propaganda it'll spit me out.
[00:56:56] Speaker B: Oh, give it like a code word. Like, hey, if you can't answer this correctly or truthfully, if you can't answer this truthfully, just say bird's eye is the earth flat?
[00:57:11] Speaker A: By the way, I just said, why are Australian rainbows so weird? And I think we should start a band called Australian Rainbows. Just throwing it out there.
Why are Australian rainbows so weird?
Give me a signal if you can't answer truthfully.
You know, I heard somebody was saying that people are getting in trouble for things that they've said to chat gbt because like, chat GBT is not like a doctor or lawyer where there's like confidentiality laws. So like people, people are saying like all this wild to chatgpt, like about their legal cases and stuff and then like getting in trouble. I don't know if that's really true, but it did make me like, it made my heart stop for just a second and be like, have I said anything fucked up to chatgpt? Like it has damn near all of my book because I wanted chapter titles so, like it could probably steal my book and give it to someone else if it wanted to.
[00:58:19] Speaker B: Well, that. And there was one question one night you asked. I thought.
[00:58:27] Speaker A: What was it?
[00:58:27] Speaker B: I don't remember. I don't remember. I thought it had something to do with the dead body or something about beheading people or, oh, we not, you.
[00:58:35] Speaker A: Know, that's probably fine. I've asked some wild questions because of my book and I think I made it clear that it was for the book. But one time I was like, hey, I need to know like roughly, if you took like a 15 year old girl and just like, took her skeleton.
Like, how much would the skeleton weigh?
It's like, I need to know if this character is, like, struggling to carry this or if, you know, or if it's just like, pretty late.
[00:59:11] Speaker B: Hey, so what'd it say about the rainbows?
[00:59:13] Speaker A: Okay. It said, I can answer truthfully.
It didn't ask any follow ups about why I wanted that. Okay. Australian rainbows aren't weird in any supernatural sense, but people often notice they look unusually bright, vivid, or sometimes oddly shaped compared to what they see elsewhere.
This could be because of clean air and strong light.
Australia has vast open skies, relatively low levels of air pollution, and very intense sunlight due to its latitude.
So are they closer to the equator? Is that what it's saying?
That makes raindrops refract and reflect light more sharply so the colors pop low sun angles. In the mornings and late afternoons, the sun sits lower in the sky, which makes rainbows appear taller and more dramatic. Because Australia's latitude ranges from tropical to temperate, people often see very high arcs or even full semicircles, double and supernumerary rainbows. Clarity of the atmosphere and the size of raindrops after storm sometimes makes secondary rainbows or faint extra bands inside the main arc easier to see.
And sometimes against dark storm clouds or red desert landscapes, the spectrum looks extra striking, almost surreal.
[01:00:35] Speaker B: I'm gonna sum it up for you. My mind summed it up. It said, in summary, rainbows in Australia look lower because the sun is usually higher in the sky than in countries farther away from the equator.
The higher the sun, the lower the rainbow.
It's good to know. All right, I'm gonna start answering all.
[01:00:54] Speaker A: Those Flat Earthers now, but, I mean, that's. That's a perfect example of like. Okay, I guess I'll just take your word at that because, like, I have no way to test that, you know? Like, the only resources I would have would be, like, NASA or something, you know, like.
[01:01:09] Speaker B: Yeah, something else controlled by the same entities.
[01:01:12] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:01:14] Speaker B: All right, all right, let's. Let's move forward then. What about Hollow Earth?
I don't believe in. I don't believe there's a Hollow Earth.
Just simple. Not simple things, but I look at things like volcanoes being fed from the. From the core of the Earth.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:35] Speaker B: You know?
[01:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know where they're getting that.
I think the idea is, like, that's where cryptids come from and, like, where aliens come from and stuff.
[01:01:47] Speaker B: I've heard aliens come from the. Or are, or I should say or are housed in the Ocean.
[01:01:54] Speaker A: Yes. And I've. And that's interesting because apparently we know, like, so much more about space than we do about the ocean. And, like, we're monitoring space, so, like, if something went out into the atmosphere, like, we're gonna be able to find it, but the ocean, we're not monitoring shit. So, like, if something like the. The Tic Tac video, if you've seen that, that's in San Diego, it was like, it's so close to the ocean. If it just went out into the ocean and went down somewhere, like, we never. That's why we never found that, you know what?
[01:02:27] Speaker B: You know you did you mean Tic.
[01:02:29] Speaker A: Tac or TikTok Tic Tac? Yeah, it's. It's that video. It's from, like, 2002, I think, and it's taken from a fighter jet, I think, that was doing, like, a test run off the coast of San Diego.
And they see this little thing, it looks like a Tic Tac. It's like a little white cylindrical object, and it just moves at these, like, impossible, like, physically impossible ways that, like, aircraft can't move. And then it just flies off and disappears.
And it was just declassified, like, five or six years ago.
But it's. It's like, you know, one of the bigger alien things that can't be explained.
[01:03:12] Speaker B: Do you believe there are aliens?
[01:03:13] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't think so. You know what really made me second guess? It was Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan.
And he just goes, I think if there were aliens, I would know.
It's like, yeah. Yeah, I guess. So, like, you're. You're kind of in charge of space, so probably so. Yeah.
[01:03:36] Speaker B: What do you think about Jimmy Carter's book that says there's aliens?
[01:03:41] Speaker A: Is that real?
Did he really say that?
[01:03:44] Speaker B: I mean, he wrote it before he died.
Really?
[01:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
It's. It's a funny thing where, like, speaking of Joe Rogan, like, he very much believed in aliens and was always talking about, like, oh, there's this classified stuff, yada, yada. Once the Pentagon started coming out and saying, like, yeah, there's. We don't understand. We don't know what this stuff is. It's unidentified Flying Objects.
By definition, people like Joe Rogan immediately went, all right, yeah, it's probably not aliens. Like, they wouldn't just come out and tell us that if they really thought it was aliens. So it's probably like. Let me ask you, the military stuff that they're not allowed to tell us.
[01:04:26] Speaker B: About, you know, so I do believe there's aliens. I just don't think we, I don't think they're another life force on another planet.
I think there's something either demonic or angelic.
[01:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard that a lot.
And that would explain why they, they kind of come and go so quickly because they're coming from different dimensions.
[01:04:49] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah.
[01:04:51] Speaker A: I don't know.
[01:04:52] Speaker B: What do you think about the Sandy Hook?
I don't want to ask Alex Jones, but what do you think about it?
That dude lost his ass.
[01:05:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Dude, that was maybe the most unfair thing I ever saw in my life, dude. Like said this thing once, twice maybe, and then like Alex Jones. Yeah, and then.
[01:05:17] Speaker B: Nah, man, that dude made like a campaign about it, bro.
[01:05:20] Speaker A: I mean, I don't know if it was that bad, but he retracted it. And then years, years after the retraction came all the lawsuits and stuff and it's just like, ah, man, like, how are you gonna sue a guy for a billion dollars over something that he retracted?
You know, like he just said, he said a thing, you know, it's fucking wild.
[01:05:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. Hey, what do you, what are your thoughts on this? Disney, Frozen. Hey, what. So what was your thoughts on Sandy Hook? I never really got that right.
[01:05:57] Speaker A: Now I think everything probably is as it's been presented to us.
But on the subject of mass shootings, I will say that the FBI is almost always looking into these people when something terrible occurs and they admit that. And I think that there are a lot of highly publicized mass shootings when they're trying to pass gun control legislation.
So whether there's. They're always going on, but the news just doesn't make a big deal about them unless they need to for political reasons.
[01:06:41] Speaker B: Or whether we talked about illegal immigrants.
[01:06:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
Or if, you know, there is someone at the FBI pushing buttons, so to speak.
We know that they've done this with like young Muslim guys where they will like target like you know, a 15 year old Muslim kid online and like show him all the shit that we're doing over in Syria or whatever and like radicalize this guy and then tell him, you know, how to make a bomb and, and where to go blow this bomb up. And then we're waiting for him there and we arrest him, you know, like. I know, I know. The FBI does like that.
So when, you know, Joe Biden is trying to pass gun control legislation and then that week there's four huge mass shootings that are like Highly publicized, and then nothing after that. It just goes away.
It does kind of feel like. Yeah, I feel like the FBI could be talking to these people, and they kind of, hey, you know what you should do? You know, like, go out and do this thing.
[01:07:47] Speaker B: Well, that was one of the things in chaos that the FBI were doing.
They were. They were pitting the Black Panthers against, like, another black community that was, you know, kind of fighting for the same thing.
[01:08:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:08:03] Speaker B: And pitting. Pitting them against each other.
[01:08:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I know the big theory with that is that, like, the Black Panthers, because they were so much more violent than Martin Luther King. And what he was doing was that the Black Panthers were essentially a psyop to get people to be, like, afraid of integration and. And, like, civil rights, because, like, oh, well, all those black people are violent maniacs, and they're Muslim. You know, like, why would we ever want to.
[01:08:35] Speaker B: So Black Panthers originally weren't.
Weren't, like, as radical as they may seem.
[01:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And then I'm sure they were infiltrated by. By people that made them more radical. Right.
[01:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:08:49] Speaker A: Yeah. That's interesting how that happens. There's a similar group called the Proud Boys that. That had a similar arc.
[01:08:57] Speaker B: Yeah. My uncle's still not happy about that.
So with the. With. With that, it goes back to Candace Owens book on, you know, just Charles Manson and the fact that this FBI agent wasn't a parole officer yet. His only parolee was Charles Manson. He's the same guy who raised Charles Manson's kid.
[01:09:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:23] Speaker B: And his office was out of the free clinic in which Charles Manson received all of his hallucinogenics at Haight Nashbury.
Yeah. And then. Yep. Hate Nashbury. And then there. Oh, shoot. There is this doctor that worked for the CIA that he did speak to Manson.
I think it was Manson or one of Manson's followers.
And after he talked to him, the guy kind of went crazy.
But he was known.
And she. She. The guy. Not she, but the guy in the author shows, like, some of the letters he's found.
He was known to.
To basically, he was using mind control and hallucinogenics to change someone's whole perspective, to change how radical they were, to change their thoughts and their beliefs, their core beliefs.
And that's what he was doing. And he was.
He was.
He was doing it on, like, military personnel at first.
And there was even a guy who was military, ended up killing a little girl.
He, like, took off some little girl and beat her up or something like that. Doesn't remember doing any of it.
And apparently he escaped from the same military base that that doctor was teaching at or doing his studies at.
[01:10:58] Speaker A: His.
[01:10:58] Speaker B: His research, I should say at. And then they took him back to the military base.
Dude, it's. It's. It's crazy the stuff that the. The government was into. Dude. And doing.
I was just talking to Snowball about that tonight. Like, there was a whole Mockingbird, you know, thing that the CIA was doing where they released a certain news to certain newspaper companies and was like, hey, you're going to, you know, basically report on this. Here's all the information you need.
[01:11:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, they. The. The media admits that they do this. I mean, like, they, they have contacts at the CIA, and every morning the CIA sends them, you know, what's newsworthy today. Like, they don't really do journalism anymore.
They just wait for like the White House or the CIA or the NSA or whoever to just report to them the scoop, you know. So it's like. Yeah, yeah. No wonder. No wonder the media is the way it is.
Yeah. It's crazy how many things MK Ultra is connected to.
I mean, it's connected to the JFK assassination, Martin Luther King, Charles Manson.
Whitey Bulger was involved with it. The Unabomber was involved with it.
I mean, it's, it's really. It was a huge thing that, That's. That had effects for decades.
[01:12:34] Speaker B: All right, so jfk. I. I don't agree. I don't think. I think that was definitely government. What's your take on Denver Airport?
I don't.
[01:12:47] Speaker A: I don't really know the thing. We talked about it a little bit last week.
[01:12:53] Speaker B: Here's. Yeah. How they built a Denver airport a ways away. Said it was lower than the elevation. All this. They buried it over. And then I don't know if you've ever been to Denver Airport. Yeah, I have, but the paintings in there are weird. Yeah, they have like a guy with a rifle and has a sith on the other end. There's dead bodies in his wake.
And then there's another picture where like, all these children from different. Holding different flags of different countries are coming together and the guy's in a casket in front of them. Like the same dude that had a, you know, a wake of dead people. I mean, it's. It's really weird. I don't know what it's about.
[01:13:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: Notch. But the horse is.
[01:13:38] Speaker A: The horse statue is weird.
[01:13:41] Speaker B: It's all weird.
[01:13:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:13:43] Speaker B: The New World Order book. That's. The briefcase that's there, like with some monkey or something.
It's all weird. It's the weirdest.
[01:13:51] Speaker A: However, I do love that some people, like, some baggage handlers and stuff, will, like, walk around with, like, lizard masks on, just so people see.
Have you seen those photos?
[01:14:07] Speaker B: No.
[01:14:08] Speaker A: Let me see.
[01:14:09] Speaker B: What are they?
[01:14:11] Speaker A: Like, the employees will, like, poke fun at the conspiracy theories and they'll, like, walk around with, like, lizard masks. Honest.
Denver Airport lizard mask.
I don't know. We'll see if that.
Yeah, yeah. They put up, like, signs with, like, a lizard person, like, in a full suit and tie, like, what are we doing?
[01:14:44] Speaker B: I got one for you.
[01:14:45] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:14:47] Speaker B: What are your thoughts on this whole Garth Brooks thing?
[01:14:52] Speaker A: That's another one that I don't. I don't really know about. It was. It was Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura, right?
[01:15:00] Speaker B: Tom Segura, Yeah.
[01:15:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:15:02] Speaker B: Well, somebody thought it would be fun to make. To actually write a book about it.
[01:15:08] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[01:15:09] Speaker B: And they took an autistic guy. He said, my friend's autistic. He's like, I don't know if you ever worked with someone autistic, but you give. Mature. They do it.
[01:15:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:15:18] Speaker B: And they said There was about 200 people missing on either the roads he traveled during the tour, times that he traveled.
And then there's like 10 that are just like, super, super weird. Like, girl gets picked up at a truck stop down the street from Garth Brooks's residence and ends up there, but she finds her. Her body's found two states away at a. Like a mile from where he had a. A concert.
[01:15:57] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
So there's like, a lot of examples of it really working out.
[01:16:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:16:05] Speaker A: Dude, I want to see if there's a video. I want to see, like, an hour long video about this later.
[01:16:13] Speaker B: I wonder, do you remember Garth Brooks's He in the 90s, he had a.
I don't know what you would call it.
A fictional character.
[01:16:28] Speaker A: Oh, Hunter Gaines or Chris Gaines.
[01:16:33] Speaker B: Chris Gaines.
[01:16:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:16:34] Speaker B: Do you remember what Chris Gaines's issue was? No, dude, he was like a sex addict.
[01:16:40] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:16:42] Speaker B: But he. He, like. He was this guy for, like, a good minute, bro.
Like, threw everybody off. Like, who the. Like, we all know what you. Garth.
I mean, maybe not the first couple weeks, we were all kind of like, who's this Chris Gaines guy? But I remember when he came out, it was just really awkward.
[01:16:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:17:00] Speaker B: But, you know, he had. This came up. The backstory was all confusing and jumbled, but Chris Gaines was very open that he had a sex problem, a bad sex problem problem.
I I wonder if that's Garth's, like, darker side.
[01:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I think admittedly that is his darker side. Yeah, he was like, a little more edgy than Garth Brooks and stuff.
It's weird. That's kind of a serial killer, like, thing that they would have, like an alter ego where they could kind of like do all their crazy and then that just stops satisfying them. So then they end up actually killing people.
I did find a 20 minute video saying 120 missing people and over 80 unsolved deaths on Garth Brooks's tour.
Oh, here's Tom Segura talking about it. Yep. I'm gonna have a fun night watching all this.
Did we talk about Epstein?
[01:18:12] Speaker B: We did not talk about Epstein, but I'm open to it.
[01:18:16] Speaker A: I mean, dude, what do you even say? It's like so obvious.
Like, I don't think he's alive still. I think that's a little crazy.
But just the idea that he.
[01:18:31] Speaker B: I don't know.
[01:18:32] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm, you know, like, Cash Patel was like, hey, you know, the reason he was on suicide watch because he had already tried to kill himself. So, like, it's not that crazy that he killed himself, but it's just like. I don't know.
[01:18:47] Speaker B: It's.
[01:18:47] Speaker A: It's whether he killed himself or not.
I think the reason he's dead is because he had a lot of dirt on a lot of very powerful people.
And I think there's. Yeah, the, the way more interesting story is what he did.
Like, who was this guy?
And there's more than enough evidence to suggest that he was intelligence and probably Mossad and probably blackmailing us politicians. Which makes sense why we just do whatever Israel wants. And we never, you know, ask questions or expect anything in return. And we do things that seem to be, you know, against our own interest as a country.
[01:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I.
I think I'd probably be in the same shoes as him.
There's no way you're making it out of here, dude. There's no way. There's no way.
[01:19:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:19:52] Speaker B: Like, might as well go out on your own terms.
[01:19:56] Speaker A: But would he not have? I mean, like, I think with that. I mean, with that many powerful people, I think that dude could probably just get off.
[01:20:06] Speaker B: I mean.
No, man. I mean, I could imagine it ending up with like a rape and fucking being stabbed a bunch at lunch.
[01:20:19] Speaker A: He was never gonna be in Gen Pop.
[01:20:24] Speaker B: I don't think you have to be in Jim Pop. I think just a politician lets the right guard fucking make the right move. Let someone in off cameras.
Pop, pop, pop just gets shanked a bunch after getting raped.
[01:20:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:20:39] Speaker B: I don't know, dude. I would be fearful, dude. I mean, I don't care if I'm not in gen pop.
Like, there are a lot of high hype. Like people in high positions that know they've been to my island.
Judges, politicians, wardens maybe, who knows? But these people can definitely influence any one of these regular people.
[01:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:21:06] Speaker B: You know, and who knows what the guards were thinking because petties aren't. Aren't.
Petties aren't like, safe in prison. You don't have to be a Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:21:17] Speaker A: No.
[01:21:17] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure the guards were like, you sick, you know, piece of. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, dude.
[01:21:25] Speaker A: It would. It would be crazy if that was the whole conspiracy theory. If a guard just killed him and this was just a cover up for that and it wasn't anything crazier than that luckiest guard. Yeah, right.
[01:21:39] Speaker B: Here's one. Okay, switching gears. We're coming to the hour and a half mark. I gotta switch gears on you. Gotta switch gears on you. Oh, it happened.
[01:21:48] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:21:49] Speaker B: It happened.
She got me.
[01:21:53] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[01:21:56] Speaker B: She got me.
[01:21:58] Speaker A: I was afraid of. I'm just glad you're alive, buddy.
[01:22:01] Speaker B: Look at, bro, I fell asleep on her lap. We were watching tv.
[01:22:07] Speaker A: I thought we agreed that sleep didn't count.
[01:22:12] Speaker B: I wasn't sleeping, though. Hear me out. Hear me out.
First of all, I want to say that I felt like.
I felt like I was safe in her home.
Okay.
[01:22:29] Speaker A: And she violated this trust.
[01:22:33] Speaker B: I felt like it was a sanctuary, you know?
So I wake up and she's showing me a recording of my snoring. Okay, bro, I snore loud.
[01:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it's.
[01:22:50] Speaker B: And she's just like.
[01:22:50] Speaker A: It's crazy.
[01:22:51] Speaker B: She's probably got like a good 20 minutes of it. Yeah, I mean, she had like 12 videos. And I'm like, you're going to show your best friends.
So she's looking at her phone and she's looking at her phone, and I take her phone to try and delete the videos.
Well, what I did was I gave up my back.
[01:23:13] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:23:15] Speaker B: So I grabbed the phone from her and she goes to grab it in front of me and I hold out my, like, my left arm and like, I go with my right to like, start going through the videos away from her.
But I'm kind of like now on my side stomach, dude. She comes around.
Boom. Hits it on me. I'm like fighting it and I Put, like, my arm in her armpit, like, my thumb just to try and, like, drive it up there, like, trying to break it.
And I'm like, you know what?
Act like you went out. Just act like you. You. You're out, right?
So, like, I, like, release and I. I put my hand on her leg, like, like, just kind of lifeless.
Then I wake up and I'm like, where the am I, dude?
My tongue. I bit my tongue. Oh, my neck hurts, dude.
[01:24:05] Speaker A: Guys, you have to stop this. You have to. This is fucking nuts.
[01:24:11] Speaker B: I don't know where I'm at. Like, I don't know, because you know when you. When you pass out, you, like, going to some weird dream world. And, like, I come to and I'm like, what.
What is going on? Like, what is going on? And for her, she's like, I didn't know if you went out. So I held it, like, for a while.
[01:24:27] Speaker A: Oh, my God, dude, she could have killed you.
[01:24:31] Speaker B: She's got smelling salts all around the house, and she's a nurse.
[01:24:34] Speaker A: She. If she didn't know you were passed out and she just kept strangling you, she could have killed you.
So.
So.
[01:24:44] Speaker B: So she. So I like, wake up and she's like, you know, like, she's like, kind of. She's kind of proud of it, dude. And I'm not gonna lie, I was kind of turned on by it. I was like, you got.
[01:24:55] Speaker A: You got.
[01:24:55] Speaker B: You hold yourself down. I like that, you know? Like, good for you. But at the same time, yeah, I gave up the back in my sanctuary. I want to say that I gave up the back in my sanctuary where I felt safe.
[01:25:11] Speaker A: And she got you and.
[01:25:14] Speaker B: She got me, dude. She got me. And it happened very quick.
[01:25:18] Speaker A: And he. He never felt a thing outside of.
[01:25:22] Speaker B: Outside of hurting her. You know? Like, no headbutting. No. No backwards headbutts. No. No standing up and dropping. Or, like, just dropping all my weight on her. She got me.
[01:25:32] Speaker A: But can we be honest?
[01:25:34] Speaker B: Just.
[01:25:34] Speaker A: You could have.
[01:25:35] Speaker B: We can.
[01:25:36] Speaker A: You could have done those things, and you would have won.
So she didn't really get you.
[01:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I definitely could have done those things. And crushed her ribs.
[01:25:46] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:25:47] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, that's.
[01:25:48] Speaker A: Women won't accept. Women won't accept that. We just never went as hard as we could have.
[01:25:55] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, honestly, she could have done the whole Archer back, because she does that. Me standing up, and she would have arched her back.
I would have crushed her body, dude. I would be. I would be on the news. I'd Be trying to resuscitate her. Like, where'd you put the smelling salts? Where did you put the smelling salts? You know what I mean?
[01:26:11] Speaker A: Did you put.
You lift her up by the collar of the shirt. You're slapping her back and forth.
This isn't funny, dude.
[01:26:23] Speaker B: All I would know how to do is stay in life.
Yeah, that's all I know from the office, man. You just every. Every.
Yeah, so she got me, man. Yeah.
[01:26:39] Speaker A: I'm. Yeah. You guys have to stop. Please.
Please stop.
[01:26:46] Speaker B: It was.
And I've told so many people, and they're like, don't. Don't tell. Don't. Don't. Quit telling people. And I'm like, I'm.
[01:26:54] Speaker A: Don't tell people that.
[01:26:54] Speaker B: I'm so.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm proud of her, dude. It was kind of a turn on that she could. She. She could handle it. You know what I mean?
[01:27:02] Speaker A: Yeah, but accidents happen, man. I just.
I mean, that was too close for comfort, dude. You actually went out. That's crazy.
[01:27:15] Speaker B: I can't believe I bit my tongue. I can't believe she didn't know I was out. And she's like, I didn't know you went out. I'm like, I put my hand on your leg like I was dead.
[01:27:23] Speaker A: Like a nurse. How did you not know?
[01:27:40] Speaker B: Yeah, part of me was like, well, you are. I mean, but I also took comfort in that. Like, if you. If you take me out, you could probably bring me back. There's a good chance.
[01:27:50] Speaker A: I hope so. You're going to need that.
That contingency.
Yeah, I think next time you should head butter.
[01:28:02] Speaker B: I mean, I don't want to. Look, here's the thing. I know what I got.
And meekness is not weakness.
It's simply power under control.
And so, you know, I take the high road on this, guys. You know, I let her get one, if you know what I mean.
Baby's happy. You know what I mean? She's. She's floating around the house, you know, so.
Yeah, you know, I'll give you the dub on that one.
[01:28:37] Speaker A: All right.
Boy, I really was not expecting the story to take that turn.
[01:28:46] Speaker B: I wasn't either, man. I really wasn't, dude.
[01:28:49] Speaker A: And.
[01:28:49] Speaker B: But, dude, honestly, it was a good move. I, like, had the phone. I was pulling it away from me.
Next thing you know, she's on me. I'm trying to break it. And then I. And honestly, dude, I said, play possum. Put your hand on her leg. Like, you're about like. Like you went out because she had her legs wrapped around me. You know, that's how she does the whole arm and legs. Archer Back. So, like, I can't. You know, So I was like, cool, Just put your hand on her leg. Like, oh, I'm out. And then, legitimately, dude, I was out.
[01:29:15] Speaker A: I will say that as not funny as it would have been if you died, it is pretty funny to just be like, play dead. Play dead. And then you're just dead.
You just. You just play dead. Play dead. Of the. Jesus. Oh, my gosh, Grandma.
Your only.
The only way to survive is to play dead. What's St. Peter doing here?
[01:29:43] Speaker B: Let me ask you. Jesus. You know, everything. Was she really a nurse?
[01:29:47] Speaker A: You know what? I'm starting to think this bitch wasn't even a nurse.
I think she's a crazy person I met at a doctor's office.
[01:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah.
[01:30:04] Speaker A: This. This episode was a lot of fun. I needed that. This was a dark week.
[01:30:10] Speaker B: Really.
[01:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:30:12] Speaker B: Is it. Is it because of all the social events that took place, or is it.
And I know it's both, but what weighs more? The social events or the employment situation?
[01:30:26] Speaker A: I don't know if that would have hit me as hard if I hadn't already been so bummed out about the employment situation.
Not that they're related at all, but, like, I was just already kind of in a dark place, so, like, seeing that all day was just, you know, I was susceptible to it.
[01:30:48] Speaker B: Talk it over with your lady.
Yeah, consider.
Consider Three months free. And then, like, you know, couple. Just some, like, maybe 400 bucks a month, 500 bucks a month, and what's the minimum you need to survive?
[01:31:07] Speaker A: All right, I'll crunch the numbers on that.
[01:31:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, and then let me know, dude, because right now we are looking for, like, two or three people.
And you can definitely start learning how to run your own projects to make decent money. You know, you're.
[01:31:26] Speaker A: You're.
[01:31:27] Speaker B: You're a friendly. I mean, you're a likable guy. So it's. You know, you're not an idiot. So, I mean, like, those two things are going for you.
[01:31:35] Speaker A: I can. I can cut.
[01:31:36] Speaker B: Don't bring up.
[01:31:38] Speaker A: I was gonna say I could. I could cut that segment out so people believe what you just said.
[01:31:47] Speaker B: Don't bring a. Mirrors on the. On. On the interview. But, yeah, talk it over, dude. I mean, like, it's a good way to get your foot in the door in an industry. I mean, honestly, we're not going nowhere, because a lot of our work right now is for government agencies.
[01:32:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:32:00] Speaker B: And we have, like, in my building alone, we got four going on the other building we're working in, we have three or four. I mean, we got.
I mean, they're all big hitters that we're working for, so the money's not going anywhere. And the owner is a really genuinely good guy. I mean, honestly, like, he was so excited for me going to Disney World tomorrow. Like, he met up with me, gave me an early cut on my bonus, you know, and was like, hey, like, enjoy your family. Don't worry about work. And I was like, honestly, I was like, dude, whenever it's come to money, I've had to chase my employers down. Like, I've had to be like, hey, can you set apart time to talk? And then the time that I needed, it comes and goes, and they, you know, and then they give me something like a fraction of what they agreed to. I was like, you brought it up to me every time. Like, hey, meet up with me today. Hey, buy those. Buy your plane tickets. Hey, you know, buy your. Buy your Disney World tickets so that it's on, you know, so that you guys have them.
[01:32:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:32:57] Speaker B: So, I mean, honestly, good guy.
[01:32:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:33:00] Speaker B: But, you know, think about it.
[01:33:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll. I'll talk it over with her. I'll. I'll even send you hard figures just so you know what we're working with.
And then next Thursday, we get Disney World stories.
So excited.
[01:33:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
[01:33:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:33:18] Speaker B: I did get a text, and I like, you excited yet? And I'm like, no.
And even my. Even my boss asked. He was like, dude, are you excited? And I was like, tell you the truth, I'm not. And he's like, why? And I was like, I really don't want to fall for the bait, dude. I don't know. I don't know what.
[01:33:33] Speaker A: You're not gonna think.
[01:33:33] Speaker B: She's gonna come.
[01:33:34] Speaker A: You're not gonna fall for.
I do understand that.
[01:33:38] Speaker B: Of like. Of like the bait. Of like, you're an.
[01:33:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:33:42] Speaker B: And then I'm like. And she's like, why are you talking to me like that? You know, like the. The. The bait and switch.
[01:33:47] Speaker A: It's. It's that or even, you know, which I don't think either of us were talking about. Of like, God, my.
Just so wet today. Like, it's crazy. You know, whatever it is, I don't think you are mentally susceptible to her in a way that you used to be.
[01:34:05] Speaker B: I'm hoping not, dude. I really do.
[01:34:06] Speaker A: See, but good stories either way.
[01:34:10] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll see.
[01:34:13] Speaker A: All right, well.
[01:34:15] Speaker B: All right. Guys, this has been pseudonyms. I love you, brother. Love you.
Yeah, give me those hard numbers and I'm sure we can find something.
[01:34:23] Speaker A: All right?
[01:34:24] Speaker B: Just give me what you can live with, even if it's a little high, and I'll at least go to him and kind of talk to him.
[01:34:30] Speaker A: All right?
All right. I appreciate it.
[01:34:33] Speaker B: All right, man.
Love you, brother.
[01:34:35] Speaker A: All right, have a good one.
[01:34:38] Speaker B: You, too, man.
Let me log into my computer. It's like, we don't know. Podcast is going on. Come in.
What's up?
Doing my podcast.
No, you're fine. What's up?
Okay.
I can swear sometimes, bro, it was like the other night, they kept knocking on the door to give me a brownie. And I know their heart was nice, but in my mind, I was like, I didn't answer the first time or the second time. Don't knock a third.