039: Forced Creampie Double Dutch

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Word on the street is you're 62 on Spotify. Age. And your old lady's 19. [00:00:10] Speaker B: Is she 19? [00:00:12] Speaker A: I don't know. I was going off that little text you sent me. [00:00:17] Speaker B: I, I believe it though, because she ranks pretty high with Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Hey, let's talk about something real quick, dude. What was. How many, how many genres did you listen to this year? Different. [00:00:36] Speaker B: I think it said 130, 130 something. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Okay. I'm at 287. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought yours was like double whatever. Mine was. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, Stretch marks is like 500 and something. It's like, ridiculous. [00:00:52] Speaker B: And he's like, yeah, well that's, that's bullshit. It's bullshit because, like, every band gets its own stream genre. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Well, he also listens to, and this is like straight up, dude. He listens to, like, Mexican music. He listens to Russian. He listens to Indian Christmas music. [00:01:11] Speaker B: Like, that's terrible. [00:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah, he'll, he'll, he'll dip from Paula Abdul all the way over to like. [00:01:18] Speaker B: You had me with Mexican music. I'll listen to some Mexican music. Joan Sebastian, he's like the Mexican Morrissey. And I thought Morrissey was the Mexican Morrissey because they all love Morrissey so much. But Pedro Infante, I love. [00:01:34] Speaker A: I'll rock some Kareem Leon, you know. [00:01:37] Speaker B: So I don't know that one, but I know Johnny Pacheco. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Nice, nice. Well, mine comes from just dating the Spanish girl. You know what I mean? [00:01:48] Speaker B: Like, mine comes from their grandmas. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Haha. [00:01:52] Speaker B: I, I seriously, I, I posted, I posted something on Instagram with a Pedro Infante song as like the, the song playing over the picture. Three different Hispanic chicks sent me messages and were like, oh my God, my grandma loved Pedro. I don't even know if I'm saying his name right. So let me pull up, Let me pull up my Spotify thing. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Oh, man. You can make me do the same then. Man, that's just so loud in your ears. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Because I don't remember. I don't remember. [00:02:26] Speaker A: You don't remember what your favorite. I had two people show me that their favorite, their number one podcast on Spotify was our podcast. [00:02:36] Speaker B: I mean, I don't listen to podcasts on Spotify, so Mine was Sean Ryan and Candace Owens. [00:02:44] Speaker A: That kind of tells you where I sit. [00:02:48] Speaker B: I can't get it on desktop. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Huh. All right, what was your favorite album? [00:02:54] Speaker B: My top album, I believe, was the new AFI album, Silver Bleeds the Black Sun. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Mine was Bible Verses for Sleep, Volume one by Soak Stream. [00:03:06] Speaker B: I saw that. I saw that. Okay, So I pulled it up here. My top artists haven't changed since I was 13. We got the cure at number one, AFI number two, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, the Cramps and Bauhaus. And then this is funny. All four of my top four songs were all tracks off of that new AFI album. Number five, God Only Knows by the Beach Boys. What else you got? [00:03:48] Speaker A: I'm trying to find my top artist. My top artist was Lecrae. And then my minutes were like 50,000 minutes listening to music. Well, my top artists are Lecrae, Jimmy Needham, Trip Lee and Soak Stream. And then Shakaz album is one of my top five albums. [00:04:16] Speaker B: Shaka. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. [00:04:19] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:20] Speaker B: Dude, send me a screen. Send me a screenshot of that. I'll send that to Brendan McPeak. [00:04:25] Speaker A: All right, I'll do that for you. [00:04:30] Speaker B: My top artist was the cure. I spent 625 minutes with them. Here's why my stats are so skewed was because I didn't listen to Spotify pretty much all this year. I only use it on my laptop because you don't have to shuffle when you're on the laptop, but on the phone because I don't have premium until today when I got two months free. You have to shuffle everything on the phone so I wouldn't listen to it on my phone. That's why I don't listen to podcasts on it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Walk me through. I've never had anything but premium. So, like, you can't. You can't listen to an album or an artist straight through without premium. [00:05:11] Speaker B: You can on the laptop, but you'll have ads. So all you gotta do is close the app when the ad comes on, reopen it, and it plays the next track without the ad. So it's not a big deal. But on the phone and you can only shuffle stuff. So you can shuffle an artist, you can shuffle an album, a playlist, whatever, but it's not going to play straight through. So I've only listened on my laptop. And I've like shuffled a few playlists on Spotify when I'm in the car or whatever, but I don't do a whole lot of that. So that's why my stats were so skewed towards things that I Spotify, if. [00:05:48] Speaker A: I lived in that life. And I think that's why I stayed with YouTube Music for so long, because I did not like the fact that I couldn't just control what, where and where I go. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I, I use YouTube music or I did on my phone for quite a bit. But I honestly, I just started listening to CDs in the car because it's. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Just easier taking it back to the old school because you're old. [00:06:12] Speaker B: So cool, dude. Seriously. [00:06:16] Speaker A: So with Spotify. Damn, that sucks, dude. Again, I like YouTube music a lot because it also pulls from YouTube, you know, I mean, like it like there's no song you can't get on YouTube music, right? [00:06:36] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you can't get on spot. Dude. There's an entire Misfits album missing because whatever label they did that on just owns the rights and doesn't want to let it all out on street. Like it's, it's so random. [00:06:50] Speaker A: Entire 213 album, same thing. [00:06:56] Speaker B: My top genre was gothic rock. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Mine was Christian hip hop because I'm saved that tracks. Yep. [00:07:05] Speaker B: Dude, man, it really, it's really been the same song and dance since I was 13, dude. Just. Just some jag off saying that I'm not single saved because of my music. [00:07:19] Speaker A: So this is what threw me off. My top genres were Christian hip hop, new jack swing, acoustic country. [00:07:30] Speaker B: Okay. [00:07:31] Speaker A: Hip hop and pop. New jack swing. Like what the. Is that even. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Voodoo Daddy or something? [00:07:43] Speaker A: I always think of like Tony, Tony, Tony. Or you know, like just like that kind of like up tempo shit, you know? Yeah, I'm looking it up. [00:07:53] Speaker B: My, my third genre is chamber pop and I don't even know what that is. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Chamber pop. [00:08:05] Speaker B: I guess it's like spacey, airy sounding pop music. [00:08:10] Speaker A: Oh, this makes sense. New jack swing is like Keith Sweat, Bell Bib, Devoe, Tony, Tony, Tony, Johnny Gill, Bobby Brown. [00:08:19] Speaker B: Yep, yeah, yep. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm all about that, dude. Yeah. I mean, little boys to men, now that's another one. Hold on, boys. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Man, did you, did you. Before you got your age, did you get a little thing that said age is just a number? Don't take this personally. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Oh, no, I didn't. I got something like that. Because it didn't. [00:08:43] Speaker B: I did though. [00:08:45] Speaker A: No, mine did not say that. Let's see. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah, it must have known that it was twice my age. [00:08:56] Speaker A: What are you, are you a leader or like what was your thing? Age is just another. Oh yeah. So don't take this personally. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I was a supporter in, let's see. For as little as I used Spotify, I was in the top 1% of Cure listeners. [00:09:16] Speaker A: Oh really? [00:09:17] Speaker B: I'm in the Grit Collective. I'M a supporter in the Grit Collective. Your listening favors one artist, ensuring they are heard around your club. That's because I picked several artists and I just listened to their entire discography all the way through. And that's, like, all I did on Spotify. [00:09:38] Speaker A: What's your club name? [00:09:41] Speaker B: The Grit Collective. [00:09:43] Speaker A: Oh. See, mine's Club Serotonin, and it says your role leader. Your listening is strongly aligned with club values, making you a perfect role model. [00:09:56] Speaker B: Trying to see if maybe there's another page. I think that's it. Yeah. Maybe I don't get a club because I'm not a leader. [00:10:06] Speaker A: It's right before your 18%. Like, you're. Whatever your. That big percentage, you're. Yeah, Mine says, like, one of those screens comes up with, like, a percentage of global listeners, and this is your club favorites are. And then it'll say, like, you know, mine says Hillsong United States, Evan Craft. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Oh, which club do you belong to? Cloud State Club, Serotonin, Cosmic Stereo Club, Full Charge Crew. Are these just all the options? [00:10:41] Speaker A: I didn't have an option. Mine just told me what I was. [00:10:43] Speaker B: Oh, I guess Grit Collective is the. Yeah, because I saw Grit Collective and then I saw Club Serotonin, so I guess secret collectives. Mine. 9% of global listeners are in your club. [00:10:55] Speaker A: Oh, see, I'm 18. You're more. [00:10:58] Speaker B: You're more top artists. My club is Son of Sam, afi, tso, Tiger Army, Bleeding through, and the Cramps. [00:11:07] Speaker A: Mine was like, Hillsong United. Natalie Grant, Evan. I didn't. I don't know why Natalie Grant, dude. Like, I don't listen to her. [00:11:15] Speaker B: Except for, like, Super Saved. Only Christians listen to this band. [00:11:23] Speaker A: Well, some of these other guys, I don't know who they are. Danny Goki, and then I've heard of him. Redeem Me two, and Steven Malcolm. [00:11:31] Speaker B: I don't know that one. [00:11:32] Speaker A: I don't. I don't know who they are. I don't even know who Evan Craft is. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Maybe you just put on a playlist. [00:11:41] Speaker A: No, they're probably because there are certain Christian songs I like, but I couldn't tell you who sang them. You know what I mean? So I think that's what it is. Yeah, like the Garden one. You know, Garden in Manhattan. I don't know. Something like that. [00:11:55] Speaker B: See, I only listened to 1054 songs this year. [00:12:01] Speaker A: 1054. You might be right there with me, dude. Where do you. Where. Where was that one at? [00:12:12] Speaker B: It was on. I. I got it when I clicked on Top Genres and scrolled through right after my listening age. [00:12:20] Speaker A: I listened to 1800 artists. I listened to 56 total albums this year. And then, oh, I listened to 4,000 songs this year. [00:12:32] Speaker B: Damn. See, I think if. I think if I had used Spotify all year, it probably would have been something. Probably still not 4, 000, but something way crazier than what I got. [00:12:47] Speaker A: It could have been 4,000. Dude. It's a lot more pleasurable when you don't have to, like, when you go flow where you want. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I don't. I don't remember if I mentioned it, but I got two months of free premium starting today, so. Oh, I did. Okay. So I'm pretty excited because now I'm just gonna get super used to this and then not be able to pay for it when the time comes. [00:13:13] Speaker A: I'm not gonna lie, dude. I'm. I'm riding on number one. Screaming. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's right. Do you have a student account? [00:13:21] Speaker A: No, I think she got. I think her stepdad pays for it, bruh. [00:13:26] Speaker B: I've got a college address. I've got a college email address. I'm. I'm in them for 4.99amonth after this. [00:13:34] Speaker A: You just look it up. [00:13:37] Speaker B: I. I think if I sign up with an edu email address, I can get a student discount probably. So sweet. My number one song of the year, I listened. I only listened to it 10 times. Dude. There are songs on YouTube music I listen to 55 times, probably. But behind the Clock by AFI, I listened to it 10 times. [00:14:05] Speaker A: So my number one song I listened to 152 times and it's Make War by Tadashi. [00:14:15] Speaker B: Damn. [00:14:18] Speaker A: Now, to. To be fair, my alarm clock is Spotify. So I wake up. [00:14:27] Speaker B: How do you do that? [00:14:29] Speaker A: Like when I go under settings and I put like. So I go to clock, go to alarm and say, like sound. Well, I pick like other option and it gives you like, your. Your services. And so I pick Spotify. And then I made an alarm clock playlist that has Make War as what goes off every morning when I wake up. All you Christians murmuring about your imperfections and your failures and your shortcomings with so little war. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Murmur, murmur. Oh, that's John Piper, right? [00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Why am I this way? [00:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah, make war. Dude, dude, I have that on this. Oh, dude, dude, that's for sure still on here. [00:15:15] Speaker A: I love that you have that. What gin is that? [00:15:20] Speaker B: This was. [00:15:23] Speaker A: For those of you can't. [00:15:24] Speaker B: See what he's showing. [00:15:25] Speaker A: It's a. It's a pod. It's a ipod. [00:15:29] Speaker B: It's a classic so it's after the video came out. I want to say it's fifth generation. It's the 80 gig classic. I bought it in 2007. So. Holy crap, you just busted out a double fist. 2. Are those the nanos? [00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah, these were the nanos with the little cameras. This is what I would take to Utah to record people. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah, man, the Nano, that was cool. Those were the, the nanos were just those, the, the Shuffle was the tiny little square one. Right? Okay, yeah, I remember. The Nano was a game changer, dude. The nano was a game changer because it was small but not tiny and stupid like the Shuffle. So it was like, I mean, it was, it was crazy. What a crazy technology that was at the time. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Well also, also it's got that old charger, the big fat one. And then also you could go to radio stations on this and rewind. [00:16:35] Speaker B: No way. [00:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah, so they have like a radio option that picks up your local stations like, you know, for you, like 102.7 and 94.7. And then like if you miss something, you could rewind backwards. [00:16:50] Speaker B: That's nuts. I can't even do that on the Internet, dude. [00:16:53] Speaker A: That technology blew me away when it first came out, bro. I was like, holy smokes. Like there's. How does, how, how come no one else does this, you know? And you know how many people probably have never even seen these? Or like an ipod. An ipod, It's a device that just plays music. [00:17:15] Speaker B: I. So I worked with a 20 year old guy at my last job and he told me he was born in 2004, which blew my mind because like it was just before, before COVID Gen Z was not out working, you know what I mean? Like, I wasn't, I wasn't interacting with them. And then after Covid, they just took over the freaking world. So like, not only was this, not only were the towers not standing when this kid was born, like for years, like we were already in Iraq when this kid was born. This kid, this kid doesn't remember a time when we weren't at war in the Middle east. And arguably we haven't been since the 70s. But, but like he was born in 2004. So like how old was he when ipods went out of fashion? Like seven. He was like seven maybe. So like, yeah, he probably doesn't have any memory of a freaking ipod. Yeah, like I stopped using mine in 2014. But I know that was late. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Well, you were always, I know like. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Most late. [00:18:30] Speaker A: You were a late bloom. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Most people had moved on by that point. [00:18:33] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, you're a late bloomer, dude. You were. You were homeschooled. You didn't know what was in. You know. Dude, I'm gonna try and charge mine, bro. Yeah, I'm doing it right now. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Dude. I found. I found my dock. I found, like, the. The dock to play it on and charge it and everything. [00:18:52] Speaker A: No. Yeah, yeah. The only other thing I got to do, though, is fucking find fucking headphones with the jack. [00:19:06] Speaker B: Mmm. [00:19:07] Speaker A: You know, no one ever tells you that. Yeah. [00:19:13] Speaker B: So, yeah, we got to get back. We got to get back on those because Bluetooth is definitely giving us brain cancer. [00:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah. But, I mean, not a good way to go. Don't get me wrong, but I found myself lately driving to work, not really praying, but wishing I'd get in a car accident, preferably with an Amazon truck, a UPS truck, or any company truck at this point would do, but I have been driving to work thinking, like, damn, dude. [00:19:46] Speaker B: Hold on, hold on. I just. I was raising my hand. I was raising my hand. I thought. [00:19:51] Speaker A: You're high fiving me, all right. [00:19:53] Speaker B: No, why would I high five that? [00:19:55] Speaker A: That's a great idea, bro. [00:19:58] Speaker B: So is everything all right? [00:20:00] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, I just. I'm just kind of. I'm tired of struggling, bro. Tired of struggling. [00:20:07] Speaker B: What's the struggle? [00:20:08] Speaker A: Just money. [00:20:09] Speaker B: What's the struggle? Now you're just marrier. [00:20:12] Speaker A: No, I'm saying you're just constantly trying to get to the next paycheck. The next paycheck. The next paycheck. You know, I want to be able to sit back. I don't. Legs or not, don't give a. As long as I got my thumbs, I can hold a video game, sit back on a beach or somewhere and just chill. You know what I mean? Like, travel. You know what I mean? Just, you know, scoop myself, you know, around town. I don't care. Get the special parking, all that. Cool. And be stacked with money. [00:20:41] Speaker B: Cool. I get what you're saying, and I'm. I'm feeling the same way because my account got overdrawn every day this week. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And mind you, I'm not, like, wanting to die. I'm not like, you know, like, I'm not just like, hey, come. I want to get an accident. No, no, no, no. I want quick, easy money. Yeah. You know, I mean, I. [00:21:13] Speaker B: It's like I said, dude. It's like I said, I know I'm in a rough spot because I'll just find myself daydreaming about the lottery. That's never a good Sign. Dude, that means. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Do you play? [00:21:26] Speaker B: The Hustle's gone. No, that's. That's the craziest part is I don't even play it because I know it's a waste of time. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:36] Speaker B: But I think about it because I'm. I'm at the point in life where, like, the only way I'm gonna make it is if I just catch a crazy break. [00:21:47] Speaker A: All right, dude, maybe that's like. Okay, so here. Remember I texted you about two things tonight, right? [00:21:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Holidays. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Holiday origins. Which I only wanted to do because, you know, get into that. Well, you know, number three comes home from big countries, and she's like, said something. I said, oh, yeah, I had your sister for Thanksgiving, yada, yada. She was like, oh, yeah, you'll probably have her for every holiday because mom doesn't celebrate pagan holidays anymore. [00:22:18] Speaker B: I'm like, all right, finally she's making some sense. [00:22:21] Speaker A: Well, yes and no. And that's kind of what got me into it, because it's like, I see your point. See your point. Okay, but, like, you guys can. You can still do something. You don't necessarily have to do what society's doing. So if you're not gonna celebrate it, get your ass back to work. [00:22:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:44] Speaker A: You know, if you're gonna. If you're gonna bite, bite. If you're gonna say, hey, I'm making a stance. I'm not celebrating pagan holidays. You're recognizing it by taking the day off from work. So it's true. So that was. [00:22:59] Speaker B: People don't have the option. [00:23:01] Speaker A: But now, since we're sitting here talking about over overdraw fees and wanting to get hit by trucks, the other option was doing. [00:23:09] Speaker B: Wanting to get hit by trucks. [00:23:12] Speaker A: The other option was doing an episode on our dreams or calling our callings, our desires, whatever it is. But, like, you know, I was referring to, like, what would you be doing right now? You know what? Let's. Let's take a moment, welcome, everybody, to synonyms. [00:23:31] Speaker B: That's right. That's got to be our longest cold open. Now, that's 24 minutes. [00:23:37] Speaker A: We do it, like, every time. We're like, oh, man, it's 12 minutes. Oh, man, it's 18. Yeah. So Martin Luther King over here, and Dr. King and I are going to be discussing, like, dreams or callings, you know, where. If you didn't have kids, where would you be? What would you be doing, Mr. Dr. King? This is kind of like. [00:24:02] Speaker B: I was actually. I. I was. First of all, I guess you're. You're Christopher. [00:24:11] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Wait, wait. [00:24:15] Speaker B: You look healthy. [00:24:23] Speaker A: That was a horse. I know you probably thought of horsepower. Different horsepower, different horsepower on that one. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Oh, man. It's not a bad hobby to get into. [00:24:36] Speaker A: That horse game. Got in shrines, bro. [00:24:39] Speaker B: Riding horses on a rich guy's ranch. Oh, cash out, cash out, crash out. Today I was thinking about music, and here's why the novel is on pause again. Because when I was, like, 20, it was the first time that I realized if I die tomorrow, I am leaving nothing behind of anything that I had a passion for in life. Like, I've never recorded music. I did, like, one shitty song with a band that kicked me out and broke up. But, like, I've never recorded my own music. I've been playing music for, like, 23 years or something like that. It's, like, been huge. Portions of my life were all about music, and there's, like, nothing to leave behind. So I realized that when I was 20, and now I'm 32 and I've still not recorded anything. [00:25:47] Speaker A: That's why it amazes me when. When I was at. When we were talking about. We talked about music a couple episodes ago, and I was kind of amazed that you're like, no, dude. Like, I don't want to do it. And it was more for the worship purpose of it, which I understood, but it was still kind of like, man, like, it was hard for me to grasp because it's like, this dude's always been music. And to have love like that for music and then not take any opportunity almost. You know, I almost look at it like, well, if you love music like that, you would take almost every opportunity. Yes. So that's kind of crazy. I get it. I get where you're at. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah. For me, the. The worship team stuff is just more political and, like, the fact that you get roped into, you know, doing things you don't want to do, you know, that that's more like what that's about for me. But I. I'm fine. I'm finally recording some stuff and it's slow going because, you know, I don't have time to really do it all day. But I've. I've tracked a few things and I'm going to try to chip away at that. But, you know, ultimately, I was like, I'm going to shelve the book for a little while. I had a friend read it, and they gave me feedback on it, and it was good. But it's going to take a lot of work to kind of correct what they. What they brought up and what they thought was lacking in it, and I just don't really have the energy for it. I've got two books out. I don't need to prove anything on that. I'd rather get some music done and then get back to the novel later. So that's. That's kind of a. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Wasn't it kind of crazy when you're like, hey, like, I'm really passionate about what I'm writing right now? Like, take a look at it, you know, tell me what you think. And, like, you know, like, for me, I was like, I don't know, nine chapters deep. And you let someone read it, and then they're like, yeah, I think you need to hurry it up in this chapter and. And, you know, change this. And you're like, dude, that's chapter two, bro. Like, I gotta go back seven chapters to make adaptations now to meet that. And not only that, but I gotta read those chapters so that I can make sure nothing conflicts with that. With now this new layout in my mind, you know, now I got to be sensitive to what you just brought up and reread everything. And so very discouraging. I totally get that. For me, it was just consuming me at work. Like, I was. Every little moment I had to write, I was sneaking off to write. [00:28:38] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it's. It's kind of like. [00:28:44] Speaker A: I'm. [00:28:45] Speaker B: I'm kind of trying to embrace seasonality. I'm just finding, like, my passions ebb and flow a lot. So I'm trying to get used to the fact that it's like, hey, I'm gonna be really into reading for, like, three weeks, and then I'm just gonna fall off a cliff and, like, not want to read anymore. But that's usually when I get really into writing. So then I'm just going to enjoy writing for, like, three or four weeks, and then I'm going to suddenly not want to do that anymore, and I'm going to get, you know, and then I'm going to be all obsessed with music and, you know, so I've kind of just learned to embrace that because it's hard to force myself to do whatever thing I'm not in the zone for. But when you're in that zone and you're, like, taking breaks from work to, like, write and stuff, man, is that fun and is that unparalleled? [00:29:36] Speaker A: It is fun, but it's. It's. It's. It's anxiety kind of forms from it because for me, at least, because I know I have other stuff that needs my attention. But I'm pushing it, you know, I'm pushing it off. I'm pushing it for. Oh, I could do that tomorrow. I could do that tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. Because I'm so like, ooh, I gotta get. I like, ooh, I gotta get this piece out. And then I'll have another thought while I'm throughout the day working. Oh, my gosh. Gotta sit down and drop this in real quick. And so it became. It became hard to, like, have a passion to work. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't have a passion to work. I was just kind of like, I'm busy now, mind you. I'll let someone else read the book. Okay. I was a little. I was a little bothered that Miami didn't want to read the book and she didn't want to read it because I let a guy from work who I'm good friends with read it first, and he only read the first chapter. But she was like, oh, I thought I was gonna read it. And kind of, like, played no interest and never brought it up ever again. Like, she's brought up my book, but has never mentioned wanting to read it anymore. [00:30:57] Speaker B: And have you mentioned it to her. [00:31:04] Speaker A: Like, the book or the. Or the frustration, like. [00:31:07] Speaker B: Like, her, like, wanting to read it? [00:31:10] Speaker A: Nope. If she wanted to read it, she. She would ask to read it because we talked about it. She's talked about, like, oh, you, like, you stopped writing? I'm like, oh, yeah. You know, I said. And then there's times where I brought it up where I'm like, oh, like, I think I'm start writing again. You know, I'm going to finish that book, you know, because it brings somewhat of a passion to me because it's somewhat based on us, me and her. And so there's a passion to. Where I get to relive those first couple days through the book and. And kind of spice it up and kind of also change some things about myself, you know, I'm six foot in the book, bro. I'm six foot, you know? So, you know, so, like, I. I changed things up a little bit. You know, I get a little excited about it, but it kind of bothered me that she didn't. She didn't want to read it. However, the guy gave me input that, we get it, dude. We get it. Her marriage is shoddy. She's ready to get out. I was like, oh, okay. Damn. He's like, speed up, Chapter one. We got it. And I'm like, well, chapter one's not really that long. I gave it to another person, like, of, like, head of security. And she read it because she keeps these books on her desk. And I was like, oh, hey, I'm writing, like, an erotic novel. Want to check it out? She's like, really? I was like, yeah, just give me some feedback. Because you read all these. Give me some feedback, dude. She came back. She was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I need more. That. That is a. Like, I really like your book. And I was like, the first chapter wasn't, like, too long and too focused on her loneliness. And she was like, no. It painted such a perfect picture of a divorced woman, like, in an unhappy marriage. [00:32:49] Speaker B: First of all, the first guy. Terrible feedback. And I'm just. You know, I'm in a writing group. I've got some friends, and we. We review each other's stuff. So, like, I've gotten some practice at that. I've also just listened to writing teachers talk about how you should give feedback on other people's work, and that's just terrible feedback. The only feedback you really need to give is what your experience was reading the book. So, like, I might say, I thought, you know, chapter one or. Or chapter one felt really long to me or something like that. If I even wanted to give that note, which I probably wouldn't. I just probably wouldn't go there, Dude. [00:33:36] Speaker A: Chapter masterpiece, bro. [00:33:40] Speaker B: To throw it out as, like, I'm going to objectively tell you right now that chapter one is too long off. Dude, you don't. [00:33:47] Speaker A: You don't know, dude. [00:33:49] Speaker B: You know. You know how many masterpieces got terrible feedback like that? [00:33:53] Speaker A: I've sent you the book. I've sent you the first three chapters. [00:33:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:57] Speaker A: When you got a minute, check out chapter one. Tell me. [00:34:01] Speaker B: I've read. I've read most of chapter one. I did fall off because I got distracted, and I have adhd, and I can't. [00:34:09] Speaker A: It was too long. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Plate spinning. No, no, no, it wasn't. I was. I was reading on my phone, like, doing other things. [00:34:16] Speaker A: So the end of chapter one that she got upset because of the end of chapter one. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Miami did. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah. She was like, you let him read chapter one? I was like, yeah, she was with that in there. I said, yeah. She goes, he knows it's loosely based on us. I was like, loosely, but it's got to be real loosely. [00:34:38] Speaker B: Loosely, but it's got a girl I dated in college. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Well, in this. In. In the book, she's an emergency nurse still. She's not now running, like, a surgery center. Yeah. I mean, so in the book, she's still an emergency room nurse. And so I use that experience is how we met versus a colonoscopy. You know what I mean? [00:35:05] Speaker B: I want to. I want to skim over the ending real quick. Is it like the last paragraph or just like, the last page? Like, what would I have to read? [00:35:19] Speaker A: So. So back up. Where do we go left on this, though? We were talking about something else while I look for the book. Tell you exactly what chapter it is. What? [00:35:31] Speaker B: I got it right here. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't have it. So you're asking for what paragraph? I know it's chapter one. [00:35:39] Speaker B: No, I'm just saying, like, is it the last sentence? Is it the last. [00:35:43] Speaker A: No, man. But even how the. Okay, so, yes, read the first pair. First couple sentences in the chapter. Very. [00:35:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I've read that already. [00:35:51] Speaker A: Yeah. No, read it again right now and then go to the very end and read the last chapter. I mean, the last paragraph. So read part of the first and the. And the last. Tell me that doesn't work, bro. Tell me that isn't good. Good stuff right there, bro. You can't tell me that that shit was. [00:36:13] Speaker B: It's a little log. [00:36:14] Speaker A: I know, I know. [00:36:19] Speaker B: Okay. I like how it's bookended with the. The hand she's dealt. [00:36:24] Speaker A: Right. Okay, so I'm doing that. Let me. Now I got it open. I got it open on my. My tablet. So let me just jump to the page real quick. This ain't it. No. Okay, so this is gotta be it, because this looks like chapter one, but there's a sentence in there. Oh, it's chapter three. Damn, dude. Or a lot, bro. Yeah, that ain't that long. Dude, get out of here. So it is. [00:36:51] Speaker B: I would actually say short. It's three pages, four pages. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Right? That's what I said. It's the paragraph that starts with as. As the days stretched into weeks and the weeks blurred into months, Miami began to. Got it. Strange rhythm. [00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I've read this. I think I finished chapter one now. [00:37:13] Speaker A: So it has a sentence down here that says. It says her darkness. She knew the dating world has shifted since her twenties, and the thought of stepping into it again, her feeling both out of place and overwhelmed or left. Her feeling. I'm sorry. Apps, swipes, quick exchanges. It all felt so transactional compared to the weight of what she had endured. The only comfort she found, the only space where she could fully release, was in the discreet drawer by her bedside table where her small collection of vibrators waited. They asked nothing of her, demanded no compromise, and for now they were enough. [00:37:58] Speaker B: She was like, I'm pretty sure that that was actually the point at which I picked my daughter up and. And turned my phone off and said, I'm good for now. I'll read this later. [00:38:12] Speaker A: Did you think you're gonna get a chub or something? [00:38:15] Speaker B: No, I. I was just like, you know, there's a lot of stimulation. I got the kid yelling, I'm standing in the kitchen. Like, there's just too much going on. I gotta focus on one. So, yeah, vibrator collection had become her most reliable relationship. I like it. [00:38:38] Speaker A: No demands, no compromises. And for now, they were enough, you know? [00:38:44] Speaker B: Yep. And that's what she. She took issue with. [00:38:47] Speaker A: She's like, yeah. She was like, so he knows I got a bedside of of vibrators. And I'm like, do you? I mean, well, yeah, she does. I know, I know. Sometimes during lunch. Double dog. [00:39:04] Speaker B: Holy. [00:39:07] Speaker A: You know what I mean? Sometimes when I'm eating my taco, I grab one out, you know? You know, so. [00:39:20] Speaker B: How was I gonna. [00:39:21] Speaker A: Say. [00:39:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, my. My wife has never read any of my books. [00:39:28] Speaker A: The. [00:39:29] Speaker B: The second one I wrote is mostly illustrated and it's like 60 pages long. [00:39:34] Speaker A: Really? You draw? [00:39:35] Speaker B: Even picked it up. No, I did it on Canva do. [00:39:39] Speaker A: I'm up. Check it out. I'll buy. I'll support your system. I'll support your system. [00:39:43] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I appreciate that. I'm just saying that my wife also just has no interest in. In my writing, so. You're not alone in that. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Isn't that weird, bro? [00:39:55] Speaker B: Kind of. [00:39:56] Speaker A: I feel it is. But then. Now let me, let me flip. [00:39:58] Speaker B: I try not to judge it. [00:40:00] Speaker A: No, you're right. Because let me flip the shoe. What if. What if Miami wrote a book, would I want to read it? Probably not. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:40:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:11] Speaker B: No, I was gonna say if my wife wrote a book, I'd be all, I used to read her papers for college. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Yeah, but you like reading. She might not like reading. I like reading, but I like reading a certain space, you know, I mean like, I want knowledge based stuff. So like, we've tried to get into Audible books that were like erotic, but like, ma', am, I'm out, dude. I'm sleep in within like the first paragraph. So like. But however, if you put on like something that's talking about something that's going on in the world or, you know, like an investigation, like something that's like furthering either what's going. What's the word I'm looking for? Like removing the veil or engaging in knowledge. I'm. I'm almost out. Dude. It does it. It's entertaining, but it doesn't, like, keep me like. Whoa, whoa. Hey, how's that work? Oh, like right now, the Charlie Kirk stuff. Oh, okay. Oh, this is all making sense. Okay. She's lying back at. Yep, I remember that. Okay, so, like, I want to stay up and listen. Cops. I can't go to sleep to cops. I can't, dude. I'll be like. Like, almost there. And I'm like, wait, wait, what? Who? Yeah, knew it. Knew it. You know, I mean, like, why are they with this dude or. Man, I knew he was black, you know, some where. I'm just trying to. I cannot sleep with cops on. [00:41:35] Speaker B: Yeah, and likewise, you're gonna. You're gonna get three chapters deep. You're gonna listen to forced cream pies, and then you're just gonna drift off to that. [00:41:45] Speaker A: No. [00:41:45] Speaker B: What kind of a psychopath. What kind of a sick son of a. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Okay, here's another one, dude. So I asked her, I said, you read these books, right? I asked my. See, you read these books? She said, no, I don't. I listen to them. I'm like, oh, so, like, you listen to audible books of these? And she's like, yeah. I'm like, okay. So I had a misconception. So, like, my writing my book is a little too long to get to the sex, I guess. However, I'm expecting her books to start off pretty strong. Have you ever seen 50 Shades of Gray? [00:42:24] Speaker B: No, and I've never read an erotic novel, so I Probably a bad. [00:42:28] Speaker A: No, but hear me out. Fifty Shades of Gray. No, but I'm telling you, so you could kind of know 50 shades of gray. Like, the sex doesn't happen to, like, I don't know, two thirds into the movie. [00:42:39] Speaker B: That's what I assumed. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah. So, like, got it. You have to now imagine reading two thirds of the movie before you ever see sex. We're in chapter 20, maybe. You know what I mean? So, like, I'm expecting this to start off like. Yeah, you know, I'm expecting forced cream pie. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Page six. [00:42:58] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, walked in, his was just sitting out on his lap. [00:43:03] Speaker B: He was looking like a flesh arrow. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:06] Speaker B: Saying you. [00:43:09] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, dude. But no, man, it's like building the backstory. Like I am. So I get it, because as a guy, I'm like, get to the action. But here's the thing. I'm thinking she's listening to this to, like, fantasize and play with. No, no, no, no. She listens on it. Two times the speed. Times two speed. There we go. Times two speed. Or times 1.5 to 2 speed. And goes to sleep to it. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Times two speed. She's like, yeah. I was like. So like, like, okay, I get it. You want to hurry up and also get to the sex. Maybe. But how are you following the story? You know what I mean? Like, I will. [00:43:55] Speaker B: I listen to most things on. On 2x because you. You build it up gradually. And it's like once you listen to Candace at one and a half for a while. [00:44:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:44:09] Speaker B: Then 1.1.7 is not crazy. And then once you've done 1.7 for a while, you can do 2. It's. [00:44:15] Speaker A: I'm glad we can relate because I listen to Candace on 1.5. Yeah. I put her on 2. And as slow as Candace is, she's fast at 2. Yeah. Like 1.5. I could. I could still follow and catch it. Like, keep along. Yeah. And still kind of operate in life and listen to her, like, in the head, in the earbuds. But like two, if I, like, cough or fart really loud, I'll miss a good section of what she just talked about. Yeah. I could probably catch it up at the end, but I don't want to do that. Just walk it out for me. I'm doing life, you know, I'm not going to set aside one hour of solitude to listen to you. Yeah. Yeah. [00:44:57] Speaker B: Now. [00:44:57] Speaker A: So I couldn't imagine if there was. [00:44:59] Speaker B: If there was a forced cream pie coming in the Candace show, I'd definitely be on 2 2x. [00:45:06] Speaker A: Well, maybe not, though. But that's why I'm going with the book. You. Let's say you get to the center. [00:45:11] Speaker B: To get there. To get there. Then I'd slow it down. [00:45:14] Speaker A: But she don't. [00:45:16] Speaker B: That's nuts. [00:45:17] Speaker A: She keeps it going. And I'm like, whoa. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Like, also, also, buddy, I'm stressing out hard about falling asleep on 22 speed. How the fuck are you ever gonna find your place? That stresses me out, dude. [00:45:32] Speaker A: So. But here's the other spot of it. The slowness builds up the tension. Even as the reader, you know, you're kind of like, ooh, you. You. You can't really read through it fast because you're kind of living in it at the same time. So when you. Times two, it would. Like, what do you. You know what I mean? Like, you just want me to come home, go to sleep. Yeah. Like, you don't want to Build up, get playful, you know? Wrestle. [00:45:57] Speaker B: No, Like Tony the Tiger. [00:46:04] Speaker A: We did the other night. [00:46:05] Speaker B: Dude, she wrestled? [00:46:07] Speaker A: Yeah. She was going out. Dude, she loves Frosted Flakes, bro. Like, I'm more of a honeycomb kind of guy, babe. Yeah. [00:46:23] Speaker B: She's like, okay, so she's a psychopath. [00:46:25] Speaker A: She's fine. No, so we don't. [00:46:27] Speaker B: She. 2 Xing forced cream pies. That is. [00:46:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:46:32] Speaker B: Nuts. Yes. [00:46:34] Speaker A: So we switched up the game. We're just watching Bridgerton now. Isn't. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Isn't that a British, like, period piece? [00:46:45] Speaker A: It is. She said she watched it and liked it, and I was like, that's like an erotic kind of show. She was like, yeah, well, actually, yeah, well, I asked her. I said, hey, look, like, look, the books didn't do it, okay? Couldn't make it through the books. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Soft as a noodle over here. [00:47:06] Speaker A: Like, I'm sleeping by again by time chapter paragraph two comes around, Mouth, you know? And so I was like, let's put on Bridgerton, you know, Or. I didn't say Bridgetown. I said, put on one of your shows, like Game of Thrones or some. And she was like, let's watch Bridgerton. I was like, deal. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Is it good? [00:47:27] Speaker A: Dude? I made it through chapter one. I mean, episode one, and then fell asleep during episode two. We watched episode two the following night, fell asleep on episode three. So, you know, it's taking us a minute. [00:47:46] Speaker B: We're. [00:47:47] Speaker A: We're getting through an episode, like, every two nights. So instead of that, I. I mean, every night, we're getting through, like, one episode. So. Yeah, I don't know, man. But. Yeah, it's. It's kind of. Do you know, it's kind of spicing things up where you're laying there and you're watching it, and then, like, there's a hint of passion on the show, and before you even see anything, you know, you're rolling like thunder under the forced cream pie. Okay, okay. That's the name of the episode. Don't even give me suggestions in the email. Just. That's the name of it. Forest cream pie. [00:48:31] Speaker B: So that's my favorite thing to do, is just pick one random thing and then just fix it. This psycho listening. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Because you're, like, just sitting there. You're just, like, waiting. Like, you were. It was like double Dutch. You were sitting there counting the ropes. You were like, okay, I'm gonna jump in. It's open now. Like, forest cream pie. Like, and then you would jump out, then you jump back in. Your face. Said it all, though. Like, you were so waiting for me to stop? Okay, so I'm circling back around to your guitar playing. You stopped writing. You're writing music because you realize you're not leaving anything behind. [00:49:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:13] Speaker B: And it's. That's something I've known for a long time, which makes it all the sadder that I've spent, you know, decades not doing it. But. [00:49:21] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's what I want to talk about. What holds you back? What's the fear or what's the lack of motivation for you not to. Not to do it? Because if it's on your mind for years, because I'm gonna share something, this is kind of where I'm at with other things, but I want to hear your kind of what's holding you back right now. [00:49:40] Speaker B: I happen to hear this phrase on a podcast today, and I think it describes exactly what it is. ADHD paralysis. So you think about something you need to do, and all of the tasks are just all jumbled and it's all hard and you don't know where to start, and you don't. And you just get stressed and depressed, and then you just do none of it. That's. That's exactly what it is. Because, like, I'm not. I'm not great with audio software. I mean, like, I can edit the podcast and stuff, but that's, like, really basic. Like, I can't mix or anything. So, like, every time something goes a little wrong and I gotta figure out how something works, I gotta Google it, I gotta ask ChatGPT. It's a lot easier than it used to be. But, like, that. The engineering aspect was just, like, very difficult for me to get my head around. So for years it was just like, I don't even know where to start with that. So, like, let's not even bother. But, yeah, that would be it. It's just like. It's such a mountain of work that when I think about doing it, I get stressed. [00:50:48] Speaker A: Okay, so what. What steps? Okay, because I feel the same way in a certain realm, but this is also why I excel at what I'm doing. Okay? I feel the same way and I get the same way, but what has really helped me. Me progress in my career is the fact that when things start to overwhelm me, I take pen to paper and I start writing out what I have to do. And it helps me kind of start organizing things. Do you do something similar or. I'm going to ask you this. It's like, cliche. It's almost cliche. But there's truth behind it when they're like, write down your goals and then write down steps to achieve those goals. Do you do that at all? [00:51:41] Speaker B: I have done that with things and it's helped a lot to, you know, if I don't know, bad example, like, you know, getting an account switched over to something. Like right now I'm trying to get the mortgage for my house switched over to my parents account so that they can pay the mortgage and also take the rent money in. And I'm not allowed to add someone else's account to my mortgage obviously because it's not my account. So like I've. I've written about that in or I've not done that, but that is an example of something I would write about and then just sort of break down like, okay, what's the very first thing you could do? [00:52:27] Speaker A: Well, chat with where you want to go in. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Like not with me for years, but I know I've. I've written about the paralysis and I've written about how I want to do it, but I've never. I've never written about like what's the very next thing I can do. And it kind of goes back to what I was saying about following passions and seasonality and kind of like just going where the momentum is and not forcing things. Cuz like I just finally recorded vocals for one song and the screaming sounded really good, but the clean vocals don't sound good. So like I just, I'm not as good. It's like gothy punk stuff. [00:53:13] Speaker A: So you. Is there a lot of screaming? [00:53:17] Speaker B: Just on this one there was a little bit of yelling. I wouldn't. It wasn't like death metal screaming or anything, but it was like yelling. [00:53:24] Speaker A: Okay. [00:53:25] Speaker B: And that, that sounded pretty good. But I'm not as good of a singer as I was 10 years ago when I wrote this song. So all the clean vocals kind of subpar. So like I don't want to go re record the vocals. I'm stressing out about like figuring out how to take the best clips from each take and kind of edit it all into one thing. Oh, you know what I should do? I should. I'm on Reaper, which is. Okay, yeah, a pretty comparable software, but it's free. So what I want to do is program the drums for the next song. So there you go. There's where the passion is. That's easy to do. I can do that just on my laptop without a guitar plugged in or anything. [00:54:12] Speaker A: So are you more passionate about making beats now? Is that what you're saying? Making the music. [00:54:20] Speaker B: What do you mean? [00:54:22] Speaker A: Like, if you're like, hey, look, I'm kind of, like stuck right now, and my new passion is making the beats. [00:54:32] Speaker B: I'm just saying I'm kind of burnt out on this song, but I'm interested in getting started on the next song. So let me just get started on there and I'll take that as far as I can go and then maybe I'll get to the point. It would actually be a blessing to get to the point where there's 13 half finished songs because now I'm at least halfway on all 13 of those songs and I can, like, take the next step on all of them and, like, start, you know, figuring out, you know, what's. What's next. [00:54:59] Speaker A: Do you know any female singers? Yeah, you're back at home. Do you know anybody that would want to do a country song? [00:55:10] Speaker B: Country song. [00:55:11] Speaker A: And could you do the music for it? It's a banger, bro. It's a banger. It's a complimentary to Tennessee Whiskey from a female's perspective. [00:55:27] Speaker B: Someone comes to mind. [00:55:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. [00:55:34] Speaker B: It's. [00:55:34] Speaker A: It's a banger, dude, you don't know. She's talking about whiskey. [00:55:37] Speaker B: She and I sang a Chris Stapleton song at a wedding. [00:55:43] Speaker A: Oh, really? Yeah. Nice. I don't remember which one I was gonna ask. It's had to be Tennessee Whiskey. God. Here. [00:55:53] Speaker B: No, it was something about a car. It was five years ago. I don't remember. [00:55:59] Speaker A: Oh, okay. All right, let me just. Let me just read you a line and you tell me if you think I'm talking about a drink or a woman. All right? [00:56:09] Speaker B: Okay. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Before me there was her. She's been around before we were drunk on her Love from the first. A seasoned vet, no amateur. That's. That could be. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is kind of where I like it. She's modern but old fashioned her fragrance burns with notes of vanilla Messy or neat no matter what she's in she's your Cinderella her strength warms your soul she leads you and you gotta follow. [00:56:44] Speaker B: I like the Cinderella line because it doesn't spoon feed you. What it means. It means it fits perfectly. Yeah, I like that. [00:56:55] Speaker A: I like the modern but old fashioned. I was like, whiskey, old fashioned. You know, like, there's another line where I talk about her legs because whiskey has legs. You know, like when you. When you sip from it. [00:57:08] Speaker B: So you wrote this? [00:57:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. [00:57:12] Speaker B: You're a good lyricist, dude. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Thank you, man. I just don't have Anybody that, like, wants to do it, like, number three sang it, she really liked it, but, like, you could tell she wasn't, like, into it. Like, she didn't want to perfect it. You know what I mean? Like, I want someone that's like, yeah, I see what you got here, and I'm your one. Let's perfect this. Like, this is the one that's gonna put me viral on Tick Tock and get me a deal, you know, get. [00:57:37] Speaker B: Me on a beach. That's what this is all about. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Mm. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So that's. That's where I'm at. I. For. As slow as this process is, I'm still able to identify, like, well, here's one thing I can do to further this along. So going with the passion. What about. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Okay, so with leaving stuff behind, I feel like that's one of the reasons I write, you know, I mean, like, that's one of the reasons I write in my journals, because I want to leave a piece of me behind for. For. For those that come behind me. However, what I'm referring to, Dr. King and kind of what sparked this thought is I was laying in bed again, kind of like going through, you know, what to expect when getting hit by a truck. And I was like, when. What. Yeah, What would. What. What would I love to just do? Like, what is my passion? You know? And I was sitting there and I was talking about Snowball. He's going to see his mom in Philadelphia over Christmas. I was like, oh, dude, I got a cool overcoat. I don't ever wear it. Like, I just don't. Just sits in my closet. Like, you should come try it on. Take it with you first. It started off with me loaning him, like, my Ben Davis jacket. I was like, I'll take that to, you know, up there with you to your. To Philadelphia. And then I was like, he. He wanted to get a nice jacket. So I went through and I was like, here's some jacket or some sweaters you can wear like this. And I was telling her, and I'm like, dude, I would love to take guys and, like, dress them, you know, like, not so much, like, in a gay way, but in a way of like, hey, dude, like, stretch mark show used to show up in, like, wrinkled shirts, you know, neck all stretched out, you know, some. Some black shorts and. And some Vans. And I'm like, you're just in all black. And I'm just like, dude, like, I get it. You know, this is where you're at. Cool. But, like, you're also Wanting to find a date. So how about like, you maybe come with a nice black. You go wear all black. Just a nice black shirt though, like something not wrinkled, you know, I mean, and then, then he just kind of had a spark of like, hey, what's an outfit that I could wear that would be versatile? I could wear like, you know, buy six pieces and interchange them and make so many different outfits. I was like, okay, so we start working with that and then I just like kind of mentoring young men, especially with work or with leadership. And so I was like, dude, like, I would love to just do that, like mentor young guys, teach them like what's really wise in the sense of like these two guys at work yesterday were gonna fight and I'm like, let's think about this. You both have things you need to provide for families, rent, whatever. And you're gonna fight and possibly mess that up. Like, that's how dumb it is. Like I. You only get me to fight if it's for my children or to protect someone. But for the most part, I will fend somebody off before I just go hog wild and fight at a bar or, you know, do something stupid where I'm provoking someone to fight me. Like, I'm not. That's stupid to me. Me. So like, but here you guys are, one my age, the other one 19. I'm like, Dude, I took the 19 year old. I was like, just keep doing you. You are a hard worker. Don't let this like emotionally engage you. Don't let this like rile you up and you have a chip on your shoulder, like, come in, respect him, do your job. Yeah, I mean, like, so I don't know, man, I would love to do that. Like a mentor, but like all the way around. What does it mean to love yourself? What does it mean? Like, what does pornography do that like actually matters and forms a man into some, into what he wants to be character wise and scenes. [01:01:55] Speaker B: Hear me out. This would make a really good YouTube channel. And it's basically like Queer Eye but for like straight Christian guys. [01:02:09] Speaker A: Dude. [01:02:10] Speaker B: And it's like, but it's, but it's like, it's like a lifestyle thing. It's not like one aspect. It's not like you're just going to talk about clothes. You're going to talk about like the wisdom of like why you would want to present yourself to the world in a formal, you know, in like a nice way. Yeah, you know. [01:02:25] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, dude, exactly. No, it's like, it's like modern wisdom. [01:02:30] Speaker B: But like Actually, it's implicable. That's the thing. It's not just, like, theory stuff, like podcasts where, like, the manosphere or whatever, where they'll just talk about. No, it's like, if. If Charlie and, like, take. Take someone under his wing and, like, really go all aspects of, like, well, this is why I dress nice. This is why we go to church. This is what, you know. [01:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. For real, though, like. And so my pen pal from prison wrote that to me and was like, hey, like, it sounds like you should mentor. And if you can't do that in your community right now or with your time, you could do that on a YouTube channel where you. Same thing you said, cover different aspects of. And I was like, that's not a bad idea. That is a lot of time and I think so. This is one thing I was talking to stretch marks about. I said, hey, look, like, honestly, if I didn't have my daughters, my life would look way different. Like, I don't know if I would have a need to have anything that I could literally work and travel the whole world if I wanted to, you know, talk to people about whatever. Like, honestly find, like, you know, just there's companies to send you all over the US to do jobs and just do that and share Jesus with people and just kind of, like, live humbly, but save up and. And bless other people or whatever. But now I can't. I got a nut I got to make every month. I got a family to provide for, you know? Like, I can't just go work for the local church and accept their wage. It's great. I would love to do it, but the fear in me is that I'm not going to make enough to live comfortably. That's the thing. Not going to make enough to live comfort comfortably. Oh, but check this out. We were doing tonight originally the origins of holidays, right? And one of the. I. Dude, I did. I started. I've read. I read a lot on this. It's. It's a lot. It's really interesting. But anyhow, this one was referring to one of the. The. The holidays, and I think it was Thanksgiving. And it's talking about, like, how George Washington was the first to, like, celebrate Thanksgiving the way we celebrate it now. [01:04:58] Speaker B: Yeah, he, like, called for it to be, like, a national holiday. [01:05:02] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It was one of the first holidays with the other, like, famous for. But this was Memorial Day, right? And it goes through all these, like, why we. You know, what, it's for the fallen or whatever. And then it goes to Washington's birthday. Washington lived by something. It says, when George Washington was a young man, he copied the following, which was translated from a European language. He may be the most respected American public servant of all time. And it seems that he followed the advice set for forth in the following rules. And there's over a hundred, but I read the first, like five. Very interesting. So every action done in company or with company around ought to be with some sign of respect to those who are present. Every action done. Okay. I was like, okay, that's cool. When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered. Kind of weird, but I'm thinking privates, you know? [01:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:13] Speaker A: Don't make it weird. Show nothing to your friend that may affright him. [01:06:20] Speaker B: Okay. So no anger. [01:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Passion in the presence of others. Sing not to yourself with a humming noise, nor drum with your fingers or feet. [01:06:32] Speaker B: Oof. That's tough for me. [01:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah. But a lot of these things are showing. It's like reading the. It's almost like a study of the body language of what you put off. [01:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:45] Speaker A: You know, I will say in. [01:06:47] Speaker B: In my head, I'm Buddha on quaaludes, dude. I don't have a care in the world. I'm chill, but outside I'm shaking. I'm drumming. I'm shaking my leg. I am a nervous wreck on the outside, dude. I don't know where all the energy comes from. [01:07:05] Speaker A: Number five, if you cough, sneeze, sigh, or yawn, do it not loud, but privately. And speak not in your yawning, but put your. Put your handkerchief or hand before your face and turn aside. These are things that are common, except maybe to Asian people, but these are things that are common things you just like. I thought they're. They're logical, but I'm seeing that there's a lot of younger generation, maybe the Z's, this last one or whatever, they don't know some of this. Yeah. At all. Basic. [01:07:48] Speaker B: I. I heard someone lamenting. What was it? Oh, it was Pierce Morgan. Pierce, you know Pierce Morgan, Right. British guy. He lamented that men don't stand up when a woman walks in the room anymore. And it's like, on one hand, I get you. On the other hand, we've culturally moved past that to the point where you're being weird. If you do, like, if you really did that to that. [01:08:15] Speaker A: At my age, it's attractive. Yeah. Oh, dude, I don't let her open the car door. [01:08:24] Speaker B: Okay, that's. That one makes sense. That, that has the trash, dude. [01:08:28] Speaker A: The other day I was, she was in the dressing room and I was sitting at Windsor. We were at Windsor. She's in the dressing room and like the dressing room was kind of packed and there was a lady that came up totally after me. Her friend went in the dressing room. She's standing there. I was like, got up. I was like, here, have my seat. Oh, women are like, oh my God. That's the thing. Nobody else is doing it. [01:08:54] Speaker B: Sure. But that's not, that's not what he was talking about. He's like, if you're at a table and a woman enters the room, stand up and then sit back down. When she sits back down, like, that doesn't, that doesn't do anything. Like pulling her chair out except for. [01:09:12] Speaker A: Her turns her on. When you're amongst others and you're doing that and you are confident in yourself to where you don't care if you look stupid, she is like, wow. Telling you, bro. Wow. Now hear me out. This is number seven. This is number six. I'm sorry. Sleep. Sleep. Not when others speak. Sit. Not when others stand. Speak not when you should hold your peace. Walk. Not when others stop. Sit. Not when others stand. When someone walks into the room, a woman, she's standing, she's walking in. You stand. [01:09:56] Speaker B: But why? Because still I get all the other women. [01:10:01] Speaker A: It's, it's a sign of respect. It's a, it's a sign of respect. It seems when a judge walks in. [01:10:07] Speaker B: The courtroom, oh, yeah, that's gay. That's gay. [01:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the same thing. Why? However, it's a, it's a, it's a really high sign of respect. So you're showing that woman that like, don't get me wrong, some sloth rock walks in, you know, some, some crib, you know, if, if she's rolling in, You know. But if some foopa walks in, dude, I'm not going to be like, hey, I want her to know. Not interested. [01:10:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:37] Speaker A: You know, not a doctor. Yeah. [01:10:41] Speaker B: Well, it, I think these would pair really well with Jonathan Edwards resolution. [01:10:50] Speaker A: As. [01:10:50] Speaker B: Like, this is the more practical side. And his was like theological and spiritual living. And it makes sense that all of this is so attractive to women. You look it up. Number 13, forced cream pie. Call back, ladies and gentlemen. I've done it. No. Yeah, but that, that's some of the stuff, dude. That's some of the stuff you could take these guys through. I'm seeing it as like a two day vlog where you like sit down, go over goals, address, appearance, address behavior, manners, all that stuff. And then go out and, like, go to the store with them, pick out some clothes, like on camera, you know, go to, you know, like, have, like, a mock lunch or something if they're trying to practice, like, not drumming on the table. And, like. Like, just film all these things. Like, just do, like, dry runs of. [01:11:53] Speaker A: All this stuff, and that's really good. [01:11:56] Speaker B: Their car is dirty as. Take it to the car wash. You know, it's just stuff like that. Just analyze reels, though. [01:12:02] Speaker A: For reals. Like, that's what. That's what I love doing to. I do that to stretch marks. Because I'm with him every day. [01:12:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:09] Speaker A: And I'm like, no, we don't do that. You know, like, somebody got their finger hacked at work where, like, it went to the bone. And he was like, oh, looks like he won't be, like. He says something. Looks like he won't be, like, you know, doing, like, fingering his girl anytime soon. And like, damn. I was. I. And I looked at him, I said, hey, jokes are later. Right now, in the midst of it just happening, like, that is too soon out here, because they could turn around and say, our friend really got hurt. He provides for his family now. We're like, you made light of it. They don't respect you. Whatever. I don't know if there's legal ramifications, but, like, this is not the time right now. You handle everything. You get everything in line. Then when they make the joke first let loose. Who gives a shit? They got to do it first. It was their friend. [01:12:55] Speaker B: You know, I do respect the movement. I do respect that he went so soon. I'll say this. I'll say this is something important that I learned is that jokes that land and jokes that don't land are both coming from the same place. It's a. It's an honest desire to make people laugh and have a good time. If it doesn't land, it doesn't change the heart that it was coming out of. You know what I mean? So there. There came a point where even. Even when the joke didn't land, I had to be like, son of a. Tried, you know, make sure. Hurt my feelings. But you know what? I appreciate what he's trying to do. [01:13:39] Speaker A: Hurt my feelings, but I appreciate. All right, Jay, I'll let you go now. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, it makes. Makes good. But, yeah, I. I would love to do that, but my fear is one, I'm not gonna have the time to commit to it. That's why you're saying, is that what you're saying today, like just go at it for a weekend and then just break it up into different segments? [01:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, maybe it needs to be longer, I don't know. [01:14:15] Speaker A: But like I'm, I'm saying like once a week, do something. [01:14:20] Speaker B: Hey, either we're talking about if we put some product. Well, see, you could do those in between. That would be really helpful if you did like something lower production, like just you talking, but then like once a month do like a vlog. Like the camera's with me, we're going out, we're doing things. This is the person. Here's how, you know, here's a full bodied image of how he's dressed. We're gonna sit at this table, we're gonna talk about. [01:14:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:47] Speaker B: Etiquette. [01:14:47] Speaker A: I'm confident who I am, but I don't give off, I don't give that off in a wrong, negative way can be received wrong. That's one thing I have to state because like, I don't like being like, yeah, this is what we're doing. But I also have to have, I do have that confidence. I just don't let other people, because they, they reviewed it, they look at it as cocky and that's what you're not. [01:15:06] Speaker B: Think it's unwarranted. I don't think it's unwarranted. I think if someone came to you and said like, you know, if we had like, oh, a submission process for like if you want to get your together and like learn from a professional guy who's like very polite, you know, like all, all this stuff, I don't know how we pitch it, but like, if they're coming to you for your expertise in this field, I don't think it's crazy. [01:15:35] Speaker A: Learning to be a man. That's it. Learning to be a man. But I mean like things that we. [01:15:40] Speaker B: I mean like you're, you're a 46. 46 year old, right? 46, 45. [01:15:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Next month, professional, like successful professional father. You know, I mean like, like the resume is like pretty good. If you step back and actually consider. [01:16:00] Speaker A: It, you know, that wouldn't be bad either. Like showing a dace. Sit with my kids. I'd blur their faces, but, you know, sit with my kids, you know, doing homework or cooking dinner, reading, reading a. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Story, having, having a heart to heart with number three at the table. Even filming work probably isn't doable because of your job, but like showing how you conduct yourself with your team, like all that stuff. [01:16:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Taking like little bits out. Would it be like a vlog or would it be like almost a, a, like a tick tock or Instagram real account where it's just like, where there's times where, yeah, I come out and I say, this just happened at work and this is how we're gonna handle, why we're gonna handle it. [01:16:47] Speaker B: You know, I think you could do those, but I think there should be like a vlog where you've got like. Did you ever watch what not to wear on, on MTV2? [01:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:16:58] Speaker B: Okay. It'd be like that, It'd be like that. You like pick the person and you work with them for a day or two and you have like a whole episode about that and then kind of cut them loose and then maybe, oh, follow ups, dude. Every year we do follow up episodes to see where these people. [01:17:15] Speaker A: It would be cool to start an Instagram reel and say, hey, like this is coming out with. We're rolling out with this. You know, we'll, we'll, we'll take, you know, we're taking submissions and then like it's not paid or anything, but I mean, there's, they got to come to me, you know what I mean? Like, we have to, we have to. How do we start the first one without like having somebody, you know, maybe I guess sit down and talk about some of the things we talk about, man. The idea of the show and then real first episode about mannerisms and, and why. [01:17:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, dude, I'll be subject number one. [01:18:00] Speaker A: But how. Okay, so let's say you are. How do we, how, how do we go about doing what we got to do? How do you see what, how do I, how am I, how am I gonna record what we're doing? Is it. Oh, we're just. [01:18:18] Speaker B: Well, that's a little above my pay grade, but. [01:18:24] Speaker A: But let's say you're somebody else that says, I want to do it. I'm not big enough to where I'm like, I'm gonna fly out to your house for two weeks. We're gonna do this. Or. [01:18:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd go out there. [01:18:32] Speaker A: You know, I'd go out there. How many, how long? [01:18:36] Speaker B: A couple days. [01:18:38] Speaker A: See, I think it's almost, it's, it's, it's something that would be, have to be frequent enough to where you can see the weekend, the week and not so much the whole weekend. So you could do a Sunday Monday, you know what I mean? You could do a Sunday Monday and you can do like, you come in Saturday, Sunday, Monday, you leave Monday night or Tuesday morning. I'm talking about for anybody, not just you. Because you'll have to see both sides of the work aspect and why we handle ourselves the way we do. And the outside of life aspect is as well as with the kids aspect on Mondays. [01:19:19] Speaker B: Yes. Is it possible? [01:19:24] Speaker A: And then you got a screen so that they don't. They're not somebody that's gonna molest your kids at night. [01:19:29] Speaker B: Oh, I don't think they would stay with you. [01:19:34] Speaker A: Okay, so how. But that's what I'm saying. What's the logistic? I ain't got the money, but like I'm gonna put you up in a hotel. [01:19:39] Speaker B: Well, hold on, hold on. We do a landing page and we look for people in the Phoenix area. [01:19:46] Speaker A: That's not bad. Yeah, that's not bad. [01:19:52] Speaker B: Yeah, man. You could do a hell of an episode with jj. [01:19:58] Speaker A: Oh my gosh, dude, I should honestly, I think Stretch, why are you slouching? [01:20:03] Speaker B: Dude, if he and I could be episode one and two, like people now know what you do. [01:20:13] Speaker A: I'm down, dude. I'm down. [01:20:15] Speaker B: To make a comfortable dry run. I think with. I think with a couple of. [01:20:21] Speaker A: We have to lay it out though. [01:20:22] Speaker B: With a couple of GoPros, you could, you could really do this. Now Stretch Marks, I think could be like your camera guy, cuz he's into following you and like helping you out with stuff. So like, I think he could be like filming your interactions in the store. He could like film your interactions around the table. You know, he could trail you when you go visit the job or whatever you're gonna do. [01:20:51] Speaker A: You know, then I gotta turn around, pay somebody else a little bit of what I'm making eventually. [01:21:01] Speaker B: And we're back. We're back to a fraction of zero. [01:21:06] Speaker A: So. So, okay, so no, that's not a bad idea. And then I can record me and throughout our, our days, because we have different moments. There's nights where he comes over. Honestly, he doesn't know how to cook. So I'll sit there and start cooking in front of him like, hey, I'm making dinner tonight. Like, this is what we're having. And then just start cooking. It's like, hey, look, I don't know how to cook a lot of things. I know how to cook a lot of things different ways or I'm sorry, certain items a lot of ways. You know, I mean. So like, yeah, it looks like I cook a bunch of stuff. No, no, no, no. Comfortable chicken. I'm comfortable proteins and I'm comfortable with, like, vegetables, but if you're asking me to do, like, a souffle now, you got the wrong dude, you know? [01:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. Oh, by the way, I made the turkey this year. [01:21:56] Speaker A: Did you? How'd it go? [01:21:58] Speaker B: It rocked, dude. [01:22:02] Speaker A: Oh, we did. We did the Jews before. Before Thanksgiving. Like, two days before. Okay. Okay. [01:22:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I think we talked about it. Let me. Let me send you a picture. My mouth's watering just thinking about it. [01:22:14] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:22:14] Speaker B: I felt bad for my mom because. [01:22:19] Speaker A: Why? [01:22:20] Speaker B: Because my sister didn't even want to have a turkey because she doesn't like turkey. She wouldn't stop ranting and raving about how good this turkey was in front of my mom. It was like. So what you're saying is you've never. [01:22:39] Speaker A: Had a good one year I did the same thing. I went to fries, cooked it per the directions. [01:22:46] Speaker B: Mm. [01:22:47] Speaker A: It came out. It was moist, but nothing special. I didn't. I didn't do all this, like, injections or go to a special place. I just did the turkey I bought at the store how it said to do it. Yeah, I mean, you froze with me trying to send me a picture. [01:23:03] Speaker B: I. I went nuts on it. [01:23:05] Speaker A: I did the turkey how they said. [01:23:06] Speaker B: I did all the things. [01:23:08] Speaker A: And my sister's son was at big country's house first and had Thanksgiving there, came over ranting and raving that her turkey was the best he ever had. Then he had mine. Then he didn't. He didn't come over ranting and raving. He came over, had mine, and said, this is the best turkey I've ever had. So I didn't know he said anything about hers. She came over, like, two days later and was like, oh, yeah. Like, she was saying, oh, yeah. Roa was saying how good my turkey was, and it was the best he ever had. Like, it was a good Thanksgiving. And I was like, that's funny, because he went to your house first. Then he came to mine and said mine was the best he's ever had. And he literally had yours, like, just before, so. Mm. [01:24:01] Speaker B: So chronologically speaking, yeah, I win, dude. I. I brined it. I rubbed it with butter. I got butter up under the skin. I injected it with butter. I did a rub with smoked paprika and thyme and rosemary. I did the rub. I did more butter injections at the one hour mark after cooking, and then I basted every half hour. I cooked it uncovered so that it would get crispy on the outside. I took it out and then covered it so it would be Moist and crispy. And although a little salty, a little too salty for my taste, no one else thought so, but I did a little too time forward. There was a little too much time. Other than that, dude, best turkey I've ever had in my life, dude. [01:25:04] Speaker A: I'm not gonna lie. I'm a. I think. Oh, it's rosemary. I'm a big fan of rosemary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that stuff. You know what? I make great. And I just kind of pulled. If there's any. A recipe online, and it's got greats. I could follow a recipe. Mm. That's all I do half the time. I just follow a recipe, and then, like, the food comes out great. It's almost like people are. Maybe they're lazy. Maybe they don't know where to start. I don't know. But it's like, just look at the recipe. Follow it exactly. You know, if it's missing something or you don't have an ingredient, Google what can replace that ingredient. Or Google, like, just. You have to work around. And then the food just comes out. Good. So that's what I would love to walk young men through. You could do the turkey section. Because I. I honestly don't like doing whole turkeys like that. That to me, I'm like, no, that's a lot. Give me. Give me the grill over the stove. [01:26:07] Speaker B: I will say, the first time that I, like, picked it up after it was defrosted, and, like, the arms, like, the limbs were kind of hanging there, and it was, like, defrosted, so it was like just a dead animal in my hands. It did give me a bit of a chill or like. Like, almost like a little sick to my stomach. Like, it was almost like uncanny valley thing where it's like just this headless corpse in my hands. Like, that was a little weird. [01:26:35] Speaker A: Oh, you gloved up the whole time? [01:26:38] Speaker B: What? [01:26:39] Speaker A: Were you gloved up the whole time? [01:26:41] Speaker B: No. [01:26:43] Speaker A: Are you buttering under the skin with the barebacks? [01:26:47] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:26:47] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, dude. No. I thought you had gloves on. You're over here just getting butter all up in your cuticles and in between your nail and finger, and you're just rubbing it. Just. Wow. You were getting. [01:26:59] Speaker B: I gave it a four scre by, too. [01:27:01] Speaker A: Yeah, you were getting intimate, dude. Wow. I try and compartmentalize that stuff. I put on some gloves like, I'm a doctor, you know? No, I want to feel it. [01:27:12] Speaker B: I need to feel the skin. [01:27:15] Speaker A: I need to sing it. [01:27:18] Speaker B: I'm like. I'm like, I'm the Larry Nasser of turkeys. [01:27:24] Speaker A: Right on, man. That's good for you. Dude, is that your first turkey? Yeah. Yeah. [01:27:28] Speaker B: I've never cooked a turkey. [01:27:31] Speaker A: Here's the thing, dude. When you do it good, you do it right, and it's your first time. It's very intimidating to the rest of the crowd. You know what I mean? Everybody else at that table is like, oh, he's doing the turkey every year. Looks like Thanksgiving's at his house every year, dude. That's what's gonna happen when you guys disperse. Your house is where everybody meets up in 10 years. [01:27:56] Speaker B: I'm fine with that. But, like, the. The reason. So I wanted to do it. I wanted to challenge myself to do it. But the reason I really stepped up and volunteered was because when we were talking music, Tourette's, when we were talking about what we were gonna do, food wise, it was almost unanimous that we were not having a turkey because no one liked turkey. And so this would have been the first. And then from then on, we're just not a turkey family anymore. [01:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah, you're. You're a taco family. You end up being like a taco family. Okay, so here's the reason. Nobody wants the turkey. And it's not dry. It's not a secret, but here's. Here it is. It's dry. Big country would always make chicken and turkey and part and. Well, yeah, most proteins were overcooked. You know what I mean? Like, if we're talking steaks, I'm getting a medium steak. I'm not getting. And that's what she would do with chicken. We would get it. And the seasonings, great. But then you get into it. You're like, I could only do half a breast. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know when I've ever said that in my life, but I'm saying it now. You know what I mean? Like, I don't take half a breast. [01:29:19] Speaker B: And you said it at the cancer ward. [01:29:23] Speaker A: Number four. When I first started cooking chicken for her, she didn't want it. And then she had it. And it was because I take it off the grill at one side 160, 162, that those other three degrees are being made up on. The resting phase. Yeah. [01:29:38] Speaker B: Because it'll. It'll keep. It'll keep cooking if you cover it especially. [01:29:43] Speaker A: Yeah, well, even if you don't, as long as you don't cut it, it's still cooking. [01:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:47] Speaker A: You know, and then once you cut it, it's. It's cooked all the way through. And it's moist because it's at the very minimum that it could be cooked. You know what I mean? Like, it's not in the 180 where you just killed every bit of juice this thing might have. Yeah. [01:30:08] Speaker B: It's an art and a science. But I'm gonna do it again for Christmas, and we'll see. [01:30:13] Speaker A: Are you really? [01:30:13] Speaker B: Maybe it blows. Maybe it blows. Maybe I never do another good one. [01:30:18] Speaker A: Maybe your passion is cooking. Dude, why don't you jump into culinary? [01:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:24] Speaker A: Why? [01:30:28] Speaker B: It's just so gay. [01:30:30] Speaker A: Like, no, I'm not saying for, like, to work. I'm saying online. I want to take online culinary classes just for the simple fact. And I started buying more cookbooks just for the simple fact of I enjoy cooking for my friends and family. [01:30:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:46] Speaker A: And I want to do it well. Yeah. I mean, I want to put on. I don't necessarily want to put on a show, but you're gonna want to watch and see what I'm doing in there, you know? I mean, like, it's not like you'll want to come talk to me. It's not like I'm gonna. People. Oh, my gosh, no. But they'll be in there talking and watching you cut. You know what I mean? And, and why are you doing that? Why are you cutting them like that? Oh, you know, it's cool. [01:31:08] Speaker B: Because there is a reason, dude. I, I, I, I decided while I was out of town for a couple weeks, I wanted to learn how to make a lasagna. So I just made a lasagna every night for, like, four nights in a row until it was great. Just, like, kept trial and error, dude. Like, okay, that the, the sides were too crunchy. I gotta make sure the tomato sauce gets all the way over those noodles, you know? Like, I just did it over, over, and then whatever was left over. I ate that for lunch. And then I cooked another lasagna that night. Just kept doing it and doing it. [01:31:48] Speaker A: That's. That's good, man. [01:31:50] Speaker B: And now I can make a pretty damn good lasagna. [01:31:53] Speaker A: So were you opposed to downloading a recipe? [01:31:58] Speaker B: Like, did you say, I want to try this? [01:32:01] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [01:32:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:02] Speaker A: I. [01:32:02] Speaker B: Because I'll. I'll read a couple. And they all have kind of different ways of doing doing it. So I'll experiment with a few different ways. And then some things work. Some don't, you know, that, that whole thing. [01:32:12] Speaker A: Okay. [01:32:12] Speaker B: And then there's, like, some things I'm just not aware of. Like, in that example, like, very few of the recipes talked about, like, how to avoid getting those crispy, like, chewy, crispy edges, you know? And it's like, yeah, you learn by trial and error. You got to really soak those in the tomato juice, otherwise, you know? [01:32:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So one way is you could, as you pull each noodle, put it through a bowl of tomato, and then lay it. [01:32:39] Speaker B: Ooh, damn. There you go. That's why they pay you the big bucks. [01:32:50] Speaker A: No, I think that'd be cool, dude, I'd love to do something like that. I do want to give a quick shout out because I brought up my pen pal, and he mimicked what you said is start a. Start a YouTube page. Now, mind you, he. He wants to start the jail podcast. I'm trying to help him with that. And I don't know where we go from here, but he asked me to do an intro and outro. So I reached out to Pivot Studios in Phoenix, and I said, hey, I have a pen pal. They have a college seminary. They want to do a podcast, like, an educational, like, testimonial podcast. I don't want to pay a lot, but, like, I need intro and outro. Just make it basic, you know, I mean, like, just put the college name, say your. Say your stick, you know, say, you know, the college name, voiceover, whatever. And then at the end, just say, thank you. And then put up like, this has been a podcast of such and such. Dude, they went all out. Comes in music, you know, words are coming in, and has a professional narrator. It's like, this is a podcast of. And then at the end, he's like, thank you for listening again. This has been. And it's like, that's cool. And I said, how much do I owe you for it? And they were like, dude, we want to be a part of this. So this is. This is on the house Dam. Yeah. That's cool, dude. So Pivot Studios. Cool. Good company. Do good work. [01:34:20] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:34:21] Speaker A: They want to host our podcast, actually. But us paying for, you know, them. But I was like, no, no, no, no. We don't. We don't video. Like, we video talk, but we don't. We don't actually. But they were like, oh, well. And I said, he's in California. They're like, well, we got that tv. We get it all set up. We have the camera. So, you guys, if you ever want to do it here. It's so much an hour. And I'm like, that's a lot of money. Anyhow. [01:34:46] Speaker B: How much was it? [01:34:51] Speaker A: Part of me wants to. I think it was like 150 an hour. All right. [01:34:57] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That is too much. But, like, I. I get why they charge that. [01:35:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think they do all the editing or whatever and give you the file. So I'm. I'm assuming that's including included. I don't know. But they might be someone to get kind of advice from when doing the. The YouTube stuff. [01:35:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, that's the thing. There's definitely. [01:35:30] Speaker A: Like. Like, we're. We're. We're like, hey, we got this podcast. Boom. Then we got the YouTube. Boom. Then we can do something else. You know what I mean? We do almost anything else we want. [01:35:44] Speaker B: I just gotta say what you said is so funny because of what I was about to say. I was literally just about to say, like, there's a cheap way to do this. Like, you don't need to invest a ton of money up front. Like, we. You. You can make something that will become profitable before, you know, I was trying to give this measured, like. And then you just go, this is going to be a movement. We're going to be billionaires. [01:36:08] Speaker A: If I can get people to say, hey, I'll give you this much free. But after this, once you start making money, you start paying money, and get, like, one guy that sees the vision, that has some change, that says, I want to stand behind that. We'll buy you some cameras. You know, we'll pay for the. The. The. The. The guys to edit it. That type shit. [01:36:35] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. I mean, that dude, the guy, I don't want to call him out by name because of the nature of this podcast, but my buddy who does audiobooks, I reached out to him and I was like, hey, if I do a Kickstarter, like, how much you going to charge me for this audiobook? And he goes, free, I'll do it free. Just give me a prop, like a percentage of profits going forward. It's like, damn. All right. Wasn't expecting that. Yeah, they're out there. [01:37:04] Speaker A: Start making enough money, you could come out here and be my sidekick on. On. On the show. [01:37:11] Speaker B: Finally. Finally. [01:37:12] Speaker A: Because then this transitions into that under a different microscope where we can. We're not necessarily talking about those that we have to give identities to. Yeah. But, Dr. King, we're talking about us today, you know? Yeah, man. Talk about dreams. Whoo. [01:37:34] Speaker B: And then fires me. [01:37:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we could do. Yeah. After a while, we just move it to California. [01:37:42] Speaker B: Ah. [01:37:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:37:44] Speaker B: I mean, no more this rat race. [01:37:47] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? We're making big boy bucks. [01:37:51] Speaker B: I'm not worried about an hourly wage anymore. You know, I want to think about life in terms of chunks. Each chunk. Each chunk is about 10 grand. And I just need. I just need this many chunks to get me through this month, this many chunks to get a house. [01:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:38:10] Speaker B: And this many chunks for the rest of my life. [01:38:13] Speaker A: But that's it, honestly. Then we start living the dream of buying a neighborhood. [01:38:18] Speaker B: Yes. I think about that all the time. Ever since you brought that up, dude. [01:38:23] Speaker A: Ever since I was a kid, that's all I ever wanted. Buy a neighborhood. [01:38:27] Speaker B: You know what I actually get lost in? In the daydream more than anything. [01:38:32] Speaker A: My eyes. [01:38:33] Speaker B: This one fucking house that refuses to sell. It's just this one house in the middle of the street. They don't let us block off the road. They fucking hold out. They won't take any cash offers like these fucking assholes. [01:38:49] Speaker A: Dude. Everybody's got a price, bro. If I'm like, hey, I pay for a professional moving company. Come in, move you. Give you 500 over asking. Yeah. And you can move the next block over. Yeah. Tell me they're not gonna be like, yeah, you right. That's. There's no way. I can't. And then. Because they also want to live the same dream of maybe taking that 500 over and buying a rental property that someone can give them money on, you know? So I get. You just got it. You just got off for it, you know? And if we're making that kind of money. Cuz, like. Dude. Yeah. I don't know what kind of money can be made off of YouTube, but there's a lot of people I see they got rich off of YouTube. They're living pretty good lives. Shitty lives, you know, they're blowing them. I want to invest my money so that it starts making money for me. Yeah. You know, and have a little dictatorship in my neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? [01:39:43] Speaker B: Benevolent dictatorship. It's a beautiful life. [01:39:52] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, yeah, that's been pseudonyms. Dr. King, I appreciate you, you know, being with me tonight, man. [01:40:04] Speaker B: Absolutely, Christopher. [01:40:07] Speaker A: So am I Columbus or Reeves? [01:40:09] Speaker B: You were Columbus, but the Reeves thing was just so fucking funny. It's just one of the odds that we would happen to be talking about that on that episode. I like how we picked holidays, too. Neither of us were Santa. Neither of us were Jack Skellington or the Easter Bunny. [01:40:35] Speaker A: Well, that could be next week. Because honestly, like, I thought it was very interesting how a lot of these holidays came about. And the fact that certain people, I'm not talking about big country, but people look at these holidays and they're like, oh, they're pagan. And it's like, well, if you go back to the root, like, yes, but. [01:40:53] Speaker B: No, you know, I. I will throw out as a teaser, there is some historical evidence that Saturnalia might actually be a ripoff of Christmas, not the other way around. [01:41:12] Speaker A: Either. Or we'll talk about it then. Talk about it next week. Week. Dr. King. [01:41:17] Speaker B: Yep. All right. This has been Pseudonyms. Have a great week, everybody. Thanks for listening.