016: So You Believe Hitler Was Saved?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: So, yeah, man. It's pretty crazy that. What you said. We have 13. 13 plays on Spotify. Yeah, we're doing it, man. [00:00:10] Speaker B: Yeah, man. And that's, like, a believable number. If we had, like, a hundred, I'd be like, okay, there's bots, but 13's pretty believable. [00:00:19] Speaker A: I'd still take it. [00:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Yeah. So I was staying at us, first of all. What. What's today's date? The 23rd. It's April 23rd. Okay. People have been wondering when these time frames are. They're like, you guys don't say dates. You don't say nothing. We're kind of lost. So. April 23rd. So I was at work yesterday, and I'm looking up, I'm watching, I'm watching. Like, we. We have to escort guys in certain areas and stuff. So you're just babysitting. You're watching. And my co worker comes up to me and he's like, dude, this is hilarious, because I don't know what you're talking about at this point. And I'm like, what are you listening to? He's like, your podcast. Are you serious? He's like, yeah, I'm listening to your podcast. And he found it because it was playing in my car, and he jumped in my car and it was playing because I was. I was trying to figure out a name for episode 10. And so. And so, yeah, it was pretty funny, dude. It was. It was good. I have a. I have a desire to go evangelize, man. I really have a strong desire to just go witness again. [00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, those were, like. Those were kind of the glory days. I don't know if we topped, like, the evangelism class in the youth group, you know, that was a good crew. It was fun. And none of us were old and tired yet. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I want to start it back up, dude. Like, I honestly have all the stuff. The only thing I need to do is, like, drive to California because I hate ordering them online. Living Waters website. Sucks to order. Like, they hear that. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Oscar, we're coming for you. Oh. Oh, you're the. You're the number 21 top Christian podcast. Well, off. We're coming. You hear me? Hell's coming with me. Hell's coming with me. [00:02:30] Speaker A: Yes, I'm Hell tonight. [00:02:35] Speaker B: No, I was thinking about calling you Beast. Maybe not Beast. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Okay, I'll call you Robin. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Okay. Wait, I don't think I get it. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Teen Titans. Teen Titans. [00:02:53] Speaker B: Teen Titans. Never watched Teen Titans. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Beast Boy. Robin. Raven. I'll call you Raven. [00:03:00] Speaker B: You have to call me Nighthawk. No, I like Raven. Raven. That really scratches a goth itch for me. [00:03:11] Speaker A: You know, I wanted to start a clothing line called Crow's Foot. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:17] Speaker B: And. And what's the hook? [00:03:22] Speaker A: The. Well, it would be construction clothing, because crow's foot is what you mark your tape measure with. Like, if you mark the ground or mark something where your tape is, you usually do a crow's foot, which is just a V. Yeah, but we. Yeah, not a triangle, just a V. It's sort of. [00:03:41] Speaker B: I don't know if it was. If it was that out of pocket. What I said, by the way, I felt really cool. One time, I was at work, I was cutting some wood for some reason, I don't even remember why, but Tony Romero was helping me, and I. I got the ruler out, I made those marks going across, and he's like, oh, you've done some carpentry. Like, you really know what you're doing. Like, I could tell by those marks. I was just like, yeah. I mean, Beast showed me. That's really all I ever did. [00:04:15] Speaker A: That's a crow's foot. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Didn't know they were called crow's feet until this minute. [00:04:23] Speaker A: Just. Just. Just singular, not plural. [00:04:27] Speaker B: If I. If I. If I refer to more than one of them, I think what I said is not that crazy. Hey, you know what? I. I don't know why you're taking this out on me when it's Oscar who we're mad at. Okay, so you're gonna go to California and get some stuff from Living Waters, you said. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I just have. I just have a. I was watching the old videos from Utah, and I was just kind of like, man, like, man, I missed those days of just being out there and, like, witnessing and just, like, sharing. Sharing the gospel, if you will. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was good. We tried to revamp it, or you did. You tried to revamp it at rbc, and it just didn't really take off. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Felt like we was better because, I mean, like, if it's going to be failure. Like, in pastoral class, they're like, if it's failure or sin, it's we. Okay, well, if it's good stuff, it's you. [00:05:30] Speaker B: How about this? [00:05:30] Speaker A: You're like, we were going to. Well, not we. You tried to revamp it, and it failed. [00:05:34] Speaker B: How about this? How about if I had said we? If I had committed to that, you would have said, actually, me and T were leading the class. You were just sort of hanging out, doing nothing. You didn't even Read the book we gave you. I can hear it now in my head. [00:05:52] Speaker A: Funny thing is, I never knew you didn't read the book. Yeah, but thanks for telling me. [00:05:56] Speaker B: I don't think we got there. I think we only got, like, three weeks in, and then it kind of. I don't know what happened. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Lack the fruit, I guess. How's your week been, man? [00:06:11] Speaker B: It's been all right. I took today off. Spent some time. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Me too. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Nice. We're so in sync that way. We didn't even know. Wow. I was supposed to go to my cousin's wedding in a couple of days, and I had some vacation day or paid time off saved up, so I. When I decided not to go, I just had three days ready, and I haven't taken a day off in a long time, so. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Hey, so PTO and vacation time, I mean, what's the real difference? [00:06:51] Speaker B: There's no practical difference in, like, how you use it. But for me, and it's probably different at every company, but for me, PTO accrues weekly, and vacation is given to me all at the beginning of the year. And it's not. It's like, use it or lose it. So if I. When I leave my job in a few weeks, when I. When I move to California, if I had any vacation time, if I didn't take it, I just wouldn't get it. They'll cut me a check for whatever PTO I still have because I. That's, like, part of my earned wages. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I get that. [00:07:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:32] Speaker A: Right on. So you took the day off? [00:07:34] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. Went on a walk through the neighborhood at, like, 10:30. It was crazy how, like, quiet everything was. Everyone's gone, you know? Like, I haven't really been here on a weekday in a long time, so. Yeah, it was cool. Got some sun. [00:07:51] Speaker A: I took the day off because while my dad was in town. Gosh, it's a gift he keeps giving while he was in town. I know he likes fish, so I set out a bunch of fish from the. From the freezer. Thought it out in the fridge. Well, I put it in a drawer, and I was like, hey, there's fish in the drawer if you want to cook it while you're here. Well, he didn't. And mind you, he's been gone for about a week. And I looked in there, and I was like, ooh, those juices aren't really clear anymore. Better cook this stuff. So I opened it. Yeah, that face is kind of exactly the face I made when I smelled it. And I was Like, I mean, all fish kind of smells like this. So I just said, you know what? I'm gonna try it out. [00:08:32] Speaker B: Oh, no, this is not a story of your activity on your day off. This is a story about you getting food poisoning, isn't it? [00:08:41] Speaker A: This is a story about me leading up to my day off. Yeah, so I had it yesterday. I cooked it and I was like, yeah, I got it, I got it. So I ate it. I should have known when, like, everybody walks in the house, like hours after you ate it, and they're like, oh, I hate that smell. And I woke up this morning, I just wasn't feeling right. And, yeah, it's about five in the morning. I was like, I'm not gonna make it in today. So I just texted them and I was like, look, I'm not making it in. I don't know what I ate. I know what I ate. I know exactly what I ate. But. And my. My. The owner of my company was like, hey, you doing okay today? And I was like, yeah, I had some bad fish. And in my defense, it smelled better after I cooked it than before. But I don't like to waste money, so, yep, that's where it's at. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Last time I had food poisoning, I didn't puke. I'm really good at not puking, but I had just the squirts. All night. I was up and down, out of bed, to the toilet, back and forth all night long. And I made it into work the next day because it was all over, but I was not feeling good and my abs were sore. It felt like I did 100 crunches because just the. The tension from just shitting violently for hours on end just hurt my stomach. [00:10:09] Speaker A: Is it. Is it fair to say that in your current condition, it probably would have felt the same as if you did 10 sit ups? [00:10:24] Speaker B: It would be fair to say no, you know what? I'm gonna stand by that number because Recently I've done 30 or 40 and felt okay. So I feel like. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Must not have been that recent. If you're guessing on the number. I. [00:10:40] Speaker B: Well, I think I did a set of 25 and then a set of 10, so. 35. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Very nice. Okay, 30, 40. When you were saying all night and then you followed it with all night long, I was wishing this time I would have brought my radio. You know what I mean? [00:10:57] Speaker B: All night. [00:10:59] Speaker A: Oh, all night long, dude. Yeah, I was really hoping. I was like, man, that'd be perfect. [00:11:06] Speaker B: When I was editing episode 13, you referred to it as Me music Tourette's which I didn't hear you say when we actually did the. The podcast, but it's like, that is exactly what it is. You have music Tourette's. When you hear a song, you have to sing it. [00:11:26] Speaker A: Ah. All right, so this week's homework man. First of all, welcome to Pseudonyms. I'm your host, Beast, and with my co host, Raven the harlot. This week's homework, this week's homework was. Was something else. You know, I don't think I've ever read through. I've studied the book of Revelation. I don't think I've ever read through it, like, sat down and read through it all all at once. And so like, when you're studying, it's different because you come back week to week to week to week, you know, in a church setting. And you could kind of see, okay, this is a progression. If you will not even see. You kind of just assume it's a progression. Would you drink it on just a water. Oh, water. But as I read it, I'm starting to think. I'm starting to think it's like parallel views of the same event. That's which is what I think Ben Weir says. And his, His. His view is not really received well. But I think that's also the amillennial view. [00:12:38] Speaker B: It's a pretty popular view. Yeah, I think it would. It would be more on the amillennial side than the post millennial. But yeah, there, there are. What's his name, Sam Storms. He had a good book called Kingdom Come, specifically about amillennialism, where he charts out the seven parallel narratives to Revelation and shows. [00:13:07] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:13:07] Speaker B: Yeah, shows how it's like basically the same stuff happening over and over. [00:13:14] Speaker A: It makes sense because once you get to like chapter, I don't know, 9, 10, 11, 12, somewhere in there, it starts to repeat. Instead of just seals, it's bowls, or instead of bowls, it's trumpets. And you're kind of looking. I'm like, man, like, how many. How many things are gonna happen? But then like in the dead center of the book, you have the birth of a son who, as I read it, it's Christ. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Mm. Yeah, I think that would be fair to say. I. I re. Listened to my podcast on Revelation that you were talking about a few weeks ago. [00:13:57] Speaker A: Yeah, the one where you recap part one for like 15 minutes of the 35 minutes. [00:14:02] Speaker B: So here's the crazy thing. It's a one parter. I don't know what you're talking about. I was expecting a two Parter. [00:14:10] Speaker A: No. [00:14:10] Speaker B: And when I got on, it was just one episode. What's he talking about? [00:14:14] Speaker A: Nope, no, that's. I'm gonna send it to you tonight. You got a two parter on there. You got a two parter. So I listen to them and first one's like, maybe 20, 25 minutes. Second one is like 30 minutes. But the first 10, 15 minutes of it is you recapping part one as if, like, as if, like someone's just gonna drop in, like, pre game, like. Okay. Hey, thanks for joining us. The Bills and Raiders game just ended and you're now joining us. This is what's happened. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, dude. Like, like, I watched episode one before I watched episode two. I'm caught up. You know what I mean? Like, and you don't have a skip intro button like Netflix. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Okay, well, damn, you will have to send me that because I couldn't find a two parter on Revelation. But I could be wrong. The one I found was just. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's early on. It's early on in your. In your podcast. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Yeah. I wonder if I did do that. [00:15:09] Speaker A: Yeah, that is b. [00:15:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Not could be. It is B, bro. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Well, that. Maybe I should have listened to that list. I listened to the 20 minute one and I was reminded of this view that the. I used the. Which I stole the analogy of a telescope. So, like the seals. The. Is it the bowls that are next? The bowls are last. So the trumpets are. It's the seals, trumpets, bowls. So in the seventh seal is all seven trumpets. In the seventh trumpet is all seven bowls. So it's like a telescope. How it. Like each one is contained in. [00:15:56] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah, I didn't think about it like that. Who gave you that idea? [00:16:01] Speaker B: Probably specifically Douglas Wilson. But I think it was in most of the books that I read. I read like four or five books, added like one chapter at a time while I was studying through. So it gets a little murky where it all came from. [00:16:16] Speaker A: Well, chapter seven talks about the 144,000 and then again in chapter 14, which again, made me think it was repeating itself. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Let me, let me see. I don't know if this mic situation is going to work for me, but I'm going to try to make this work. [00:16:35] Speaker A: I hear you all the same, but I know I'm hearing you through your headset. [00:16:39] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I just. I'm putting it on the desk to utilize my Bible, but. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Yeah, you're on camera. I can see that. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, you see? You see what I did was I put it on the desk. It's up here. See, normally I hold it, but I put it up here so I can go hands free. You see, I got my Bible. I'm going to try to hold it. Okay. Yeah. So. So how do you want to do this? Do you want to, like, jump into stuff you. You've gleamed, or do you want me to give you, like, a basic pitch of, like, what I think and then you can kind of give me your thoughts? Or do you want to, like, go chapter by ch. Like, we could do 13 episodes on this if. If you want. [00:17:31] Speaker A: I. I don't want to do 13 episodes on this. I think we're gonna lose a lot of listeners on this one. [00:17:35] Speaker B: I feel like we're never gonna. We're never gonna beat Living Waters if we don't give this book it's due. [00:17:45] Speaker A: Well, I was kind of tripping on the four views, so there's ominous. Yep. Amillennialism, post millennialism, dispensational premonition, millennialism, and historical premillennialism. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think pre mill would. Would pretty safely just be the historical view, and then dispensational would be the wacky one. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not really big on the dispensational. I believe that's the one that has. That would follow what the. That. What was that book series Left Behind. Everybody left Behind. That's the. That's the dispensational. Right. Yes. Yeah. So miss me with that. [00:18:30] Speaker B: So that didn't come about until the 1800s. That was a very recent. Yeah, crazy thing. That's where you get the raptor, the. [00:18:40] Speaker A: One that things get better. Like the whole world gets saved. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Post millennialism, But I would dispute that phrasing. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Well, it's like most of the world gets saved through, like, acts, and everybody becomes kind of like, Christian, if you will. [00:19:01] Speaker B: One third of the world is Christian? [00:19:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:03] Speaker B: I mean, it's not. It's not that crazy. [00:19:05] Speaker A: Well, it says ex says post millennial. Are you post male? [00:19:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, 100%. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Okay. That's where you're like, calm down. [00:19:17] Speaker B: I mean, hey, let's hear them out. Let's. Actually, actually. Can I blow your mind real quick? I think that the. [00:19:27] Speaker A: You could do more than blow my mind. [00:19:30] Speaker B: I think. I think the majority of humanity has already been saved. And I think you might believe that too, depending on what you think happens to dead babies. Because most. Most people who have ever, ever been born are dead babies. [00:19:56] Speaker A: Okay, so this is how I view it. I view that. So when. Because I've had this question, what happens to people that commit suicide? What happens to dead babies? And I always say at this point you have to rely on the character of God. If God is good, righteous and just, God will. God has it under control. Look at the character of God for that answer. But post middle expects that eventually the vast majority of people will be saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith, righteousness, peace and prosperity will prevail in the affairs of men and of nations. So you believe. Okay, wow. [00:20:44] Speaker B: Okay, okay, here, here comes the straw man. Hit me with the straw man. Go ahead. So you believe that the, that Hitler was saved? [00:20:55] Speaker A: No. No, isn't. Now is that, is that, is that pre meal where like the, that is post mill where like the world eventually gets better. And you believe that the tribulation is the wars and stuff like that that are currently going on? [00:21:13] Speaker B: No, the tribulation, I think was happening to Jerusalem in the first century. And I can prove that with a verse I'd like to draw. Your honor. I'd like to draw your attention to. [00:21:30] Speaker A: See. [00:21:32] Speaker B: Revelation 1:9. I John, your brother and partner in the tribulation. So whatever the Tribulation was, John was there for it and he was part of it. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I did, I did read that. It did kind of take me not off guard, but it made me glance a second time at it for sure. [00:21:58] Speaker B: And I will say, I will say, I don't know if you can see this. This is not as helpful as it looks. That's very difficult. [00:22:14] Speaker A: I do my Bible the same way, but I put. I'll build it into sermons so that if I ever preach it, I can reference back to it. Yeah, I definitely have to read it a couple times over before I take the stand. [00:22:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I don't know why when I'm writing over the text, why I think that's not going to be a problem to read later, but it always is. [00:22:37] Speaker A: So post and are very similar. Post would be covenant list or covenant kind of like. Wouldn't that be replacement theology though? No. [00:22:51] Speaker B: In covenant theology, Jesus fulfilled Israel by being the perfect Israelite and doing everything Adam was supposed to do in the garden. And then we're in co heirs and partakers in Christ. So like we are Israel in a sense, but it's not like we replaced Israel or that we fulfilled Israel or anything. We're just united to Christ who is Israel. [00:23:25] Speaker A: Okay. All right. If I wasn't lost, I'm Lost dirt. I'm lost. [00:23:29] Speaker B: Okay. What are you lost about. [00:23:33] Speaker A: Dude? I'm lost about the whole thing, bro. I feel like all millennial, I feel like. I don't know, man. [00:23:46] Speaker B: I feel like it's a mill and post mill are both kind of post mill. So like Amill kind of also. Well, actually they. They used to be the same thing. There used to just be pre mill and post mill until about the 1800s. And then Amil split off from post mill and dispensationalism split off from historic pre mill. So Amil also kind of believes that. [00:24:12] Speaker A: I'm definitely not premill. [00:24:14] Speaker B: You're not? [00:24:17] Speaker A: No. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Okay, okay, so we'll have some common ground there. Technically, Amil believes like, this is the millennial kingdom. So Jesus returns after the millennial kingdom. Post mills can kind of go both ways on that. They can either believe this is it and it's just a really long time. It's not literally a thousand years. [00:24:40] Speaker A: This is it. Make no mistake where you are. Hey, was that a song about. [00:24:52] Speaker B: It's okay. You know, I'm just glad he gets to get out sometimes. You know, he's. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Dude, these. You say stuff and it just triggers songs in my head and I'm like, if I only had like a ready to go playlist of just songs where I could just. And like, like just. Just bang it out real quick, I would be so great. [00:25:19] Speaker B: And then a Spotify ad comes on. Fuck. Hold on, hold on. It's gonna be. No, I know. [00:25:26] Speaker A: I'm on my daughter's account, bro. I'm on Spotify Pro. [00:25:29] Speaker B: Yeah, okay, so. So you still have some accusations of heresy, so go ahead. [00:25:40] Speaker A: No, I actually thought you were gonna be because. Would you consider your. Your Calvinist, Right? [00:25:47] Speaker B: Yeah, whatever that means. [00:25:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember that John Calvin was an Amillennialist. [00:25:55] Speaker B: I think he was post mill. Because I don't know if Amil really existed yet in the way that it exists now. Like, it's. It's branched out to this more like idealist view where like, like the seven parallel narratives has a lot to do with that. Where it's like, maybe revelation is just like telling the whole redemptive story over and over again. And maybe it's just kind of a figurative telling of like good versus evil and Christ's victory over death and sin and stuff like that. Whereas, like, the post mills and the pre mills believe it's very literal stuff happening, just told in a kind of apocalyptic way. [00:26:39] Speaker A: So let me ask you, where did you get your telescope view? [00:26:48] Speaker B: I probably. Douglas Wilson. But I think David Chilton who was. So I went off. One of the books I used when I studied this a couple years ago was the Four Views of Revelation, the Steve Gregg book with the four parallel commentaries. And David Chilton is primarily the preterist source for that book. He was like the post mill source that they used. So a lot of that and a lot of. Douglas Wilson, who more recently, I think his book came out in like 2020. He rehashed a lot of the same ground that David Chilton did. [00:27:31] Speaker A: Okay. And as you read that, do you see that in your, in the book of Revelation? Because I don't see how in the seventh trumpet you get the seven seals. I don't see, I don't see where I, where I, if reading just Revelation alone how I'm making that connection. Nor the seven bowls out of the seven of the seventh seal when the lamb. [00:27:58] Speaker B: Okay, so Revelation 8 and I, you know, I'm. I'm off the, on the fly right now, so I'm not sure if this is going to go well for me. When, when the lamb opened the seventh seal, there was a silence in heaven for about half an hour. Then I saw the seven angels who stand before God and seven trumpets were given to them. And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer. And he was given much incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Can I stop you for a second? Are you gonna read this? Are you gonna read this whole thing? [00:28:33] Speaker B: No, go ahead. God. [00:28:36] Speaker A: Dude, I'm just asking. I spent the last couple days reading it. I don't want. [00:28:45] Speaker B: Okay, well, our listeners might not have read it. God, it's not just about us for a reason. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Okay, go on. [00:28:54] Speaker B: It appears from that alone that like the seventh seal opens and then the seven trumpets start. [00:29:04] Speaker A: I get you, I get you. There is a pause and then. Yeah, it's kind of weird that they operated in the half hour since like that threw me off. Yeah, that word, reading it in the Bible, you know what I mean? Like if, if, if what is it? A thousand years is an hour or a day or whatever. I mean, that's quite the math. [00:29:28] Speaker B: Yeah, but that would be from John's perspective having the vision. So he, he probably had some sense of time. [00:29:40] Speaker A: Yeah, probably did. [00:29:44] Speaker B: All right, another, another fun way to see where you're going with this, I think. Yeah, like the overall, like the overview for the whole book would be that this is a court case against Jerusalem and this is the end of the old covenant that God had with Jerusalem and the new covenant is being ratified and is officially coming to be, and he is divorcing Israel. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Throw pre. Throw pre meal out the door. What's the difference between amillennial and post millennial? [00:30:27] Speaker B: Post because millennial. [00:30:28] Speaker A: It's tricky because all millennial awe is not. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's kind of a bad way to name it because, like, they do believe it is the millennium. They. They think this right now is the millennium. [00:30:41] Speaker A: They think that millennial just being a long time. [00:30:44] Speaker B: Yeah, like a thousand years is figurative for like the whole space of. Between the first and second coming. And some post millennials believe that too, because Amill was just a spin off from Post Mill. The difference would be that, like, we have a more literal interpretation of revelation, whereas, like, they've got a more idealized, like, kind of figurative version of it where, like I said before, like, it's. It's maybe the redemptive history playing out over and over again. Or it's just like an idealized story of God defeating the devil and these kind of things, and they don't have, like, concrete things in reality. Whereas, like the post Mills definitely believe this is all about Jerusalem being destroyed in the first century. And this is like literally a court case where God is calling witnesses. The two witnesses in chapter 11, he's comparing Jerusalem to Egypt and Sodom and Gomorrah and Babylon. Like all it gets compared to all those cities. And he then calls Jerusalem a harlot, you know, so that he's. He's making his case for, like, why the old covenant has been done away with and there is a new covenant in Jesus Christ now. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Okay, I'm not against that. I really am not. And then of course, not for the free mill. [00:32:09] Speaker B: The optimism is. Is a big difference between Postmill and Ah Mill. Ah Mills don't really necessarily have any optimism about the future necessarily. Some of them do, but it's not really inherent to the view. That's quite a face. Okay, what's that face about? [00:32:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. I flash back to. What was it? Episode 11. Just a little flashback. I forget that you. Your whole day is based on the fact that this world is going to get better. I forgot all about that. Yeah, that's what gets you up in the morning. [00:32:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I never said that. [00:32:50] Speaker A: That's what gives you a chubby. [00:32:54] Speaker B: You know what really gets my dick hard? Just knowing that this world is gonna keep on spinning. [00:33:04] Speaker A: What's that from? You know, it really gets my dick hard was that Jerry Maguire. [00:33:08] Speaker B: No, that is. That's. That's Derek in Stepbrothers. You know what really gets my dick hard? Helping my friends. So freaking funny. Yeah. So. [00:33:28] Speaker A: All right, I can see that. I'm totally down for that. I don't. I'm not big on the whole world's gonna get better thing, though. [00:33:36] Speaker B: I think it's already gotten so much better. It's kind of hard to deny at this point. But that's. That's part of what I was. Depends. On what? [00:33:49] Speaker A: What history book you read. [00:33:52] Speaker B: All right, look, we're both. [00:33:55] Speaker A: The whites aren't in power no more. Sound like you're getting better. [00:34:02] Speaker B: I'll. I'll counter that, and I'll say that whites were not in charge for most of history and recently have been pretty in charge for the last thousand years, so it might be getting way better. No, but, like, what I was. [00:34:18] Speaker A: That came to an abrupt end. [00:34:20] Speaker B: I don't know about that, man. What. What color is the president? [00:34:23] Speaker A: Louis CK dude, you take a time machine anywhere back in time, worse, we're solid. You take a time machine anytime in the future, there's a chance we're fucked up. [00:34:34] Speaker B: There's a chance. But, I mean, I don't really care. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Not in your view. [00:34:40] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know, that's the thing. Like, post mill does not preclude the possibility that America ceases to exist. And to be honest with you, it's incredibly possible that if America was wiped off the map, there would be world peace. Because you can't name a conflict across the world that we're not somehow involved in or funding or do, you know? [00:35:07] Speaker A: So it's like, well, dude, we live. [00:35:10] Speaker B: We live in America. So we want to think that we're the epicenter of history and the church and all this stuff, but it's like, no, we're actually, like, bombing countries that have, like, thriving churches, you know? Like, have you seen those videos? [00:35:23] Speaker A: Swinging dick, bro. [00:35:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's not working out, as it turns out. [00:35:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Daniel Tosh was right, man. If we stopped saying we were number one and just was like, hey, we're top 10 people, people would not want to come after us so much. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:40] Speaker A: If we were just like, hey, like, yeah, we're in the top 10. No, we're out here, like, touting that we're number one. You're asking for trouble. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Well, think about Rome. I mean, Rome was the world empire, just like we are now. And they still exist, but they're not a big deal, you know? And I'm sure people there are Much happier living just a not a big deal existence, as opposed to 2,000 years. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Ago, when post millennial. Maybe post millennial guys are just in Rome like, yeah, this is cool. But as all millennials. Nah, man. No, no. All millennials in Rome are probably like, fuck this shit, dude. BE number one. [00:36:25] Speaker B: Is so funny that there's a. A make. A Make Rome Great Again campaign going on. We used to own this. Let's do this. And let's be honest. They talk like this. What's happening? I go, you know, so. God, Italians are the worst. But. But the point that I was making that they're my favorite. Nah, nah. [00:36:49] Speaker A: They're European Mexicans. Yeah, they're my European Mexicans. [00:36:54] Speaker B: I think. I think you found a more racist way to say what I've been trying to say for years, which is that they should be exterminated. [00:37:04] Speaker A: I say it in a positive way because I love Mexican women, and I think Italians are just right behind them. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Look, I'm married to an Italian woman. My. My daughter Jelly. My daughter is a quarter Italian. I prefer to call them Mexican. I do not advertise the fact that they're Italian. They're trash. [00:37:27] Speaker A: Do not advertise the fact that they're Italian. [00:37:34] Speaker B: All right, but the point that I was trying to make, that you purposely misunderstood and then made fun of me for the whole episode in episode 11, was that, like, if we're at the end of history, then you'd look around and you'd say, like, yeah, we blew it. Like, this whole thing, it just didn't really work. You know? Like, everyone hates God, and, you know, the world's falling apart and there's all these wars and all this crazy stuff, but if we're. If the world is going to spin for another 10, 20,000 years, you would look at now and be like, whoa, look what they did. In just 1/10 of the time, like, the church took over everything. Dude, what year is it? That's. That's the Louis CK bit. You want to. Have you heard that Louis CK bit? [00:38:22] Speaker A: No, I haven't. [00:38:23] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like, the Christians won. You know how I know that? What year is it? It's 2017. 2017. Since what? [00:38:32] Speaker A: Since. But, no, I give it to you. I. I see where you're going with that. I think. I think you're right in the sense that as much as, like, there's denial of God everywhere, there is definitely. There's definitely a. I don't know. I. I think it really depends on what side you're on, because like when I'm in the world, it's easy to meet a shit ton of people and not have any revelation of God in, in a sense of people, not in the sense of, you know, creation, creator. But when you're running around in, in Christian groups or, you know, your tick tock feed knows that you like Christian videos, you see a lot more and you're like, okay, I think it. I don't know, man. I don't know. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, one third of the world claims to be Christian and I don't think that that. [00:39:32] Speaker A: Yeah, but that includes Mormonism. That includes Catholicism. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Does it include Mormonism? [00:39:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. It does. That's the shitty part. It does. I'm positive. The fact that they, they consider themselves Christian. And if you look at. What's that, what's that group that goes around and does a bunch of polls and surveys? Pew Research, Barna Group. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Barna. Pew. Both those. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Pew Research, they have, they have Mormons as Christians because they're the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Christ in the name makes them Christian, which is bs. [00:40:13] Speaker B: Hold on, I'm fact checking. [00:40:16] Speaker A: They should be Smithsonians. [00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:21] Speaker A: That'S a perfect name. Yeah, coin that. [00:40:28] Speaker B: But what I was gonna say is that I don't believe that all those are legitimate. Like, I don't believe like one third of the world is legitimately saved or like legitimately Christian. But I mean, the fact that one third would call themselves Christian is kind of interesting in and of itself. Is it like. It's definitely not like a persecuted, you know, religion. It's definitely like the top religion. The answer depends on how the data is categorized. Broad global religious surveys like Pew Research, which do include Mormons, under the umbrella of Christianity. These surveys often group everyone who self identifies as Christian into one big category, including Catholics. Even Yuck. Talk about Italians, right? Protestants, Orthodox Christians, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. Damn. Sometimes included, sometimes not, sometimes not, depending on the survey. [00:41:33] Speaker A: Sometimes. So what are we looking at now? What, an eighth? [00:41:38] Speaker B: I don't know about that. Not all Christian denominations consider Mormon. Okay, let's find out how much of the world is Protestant. Protestant. And I won't count Catholics. [00:41:53] Speaker A: Because they're just dirty. [00:41:57] Speaker B: Well, you know, dude, like, I work with two Catholics that are in the cubes right next to me and they definitely believe in Jesus. [00:42:08] Speaker A: They did not get excited over 1st Kings 13. And I just feel if you're not gonna get a sight over 1st Kings 13, you shouldn't consider yourself Christian. [00:42:18] Speaker B: You make a very good point. I Will give it to them. They weren't there when I was sharing that I was sharing with a Baptist whose catty corner from me. And he had the gall to say, is this your first time reading through first Kings? And I was like, no, it's like my eighth time. I just never really was paying attention to this stuff. Like, why are you being a dick? Okay, about 13% of the world's population is Protestant. So if you throw in, a small percentage of Catholics are legitimately saved too. [00:42:52] Speaker A: Wow. What did I say? What did I say? 1 8. What did I say? 1 8th. [00:42:57] Speaker B: That's not 13%, but. Yeah. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Well, if a quarter is 25, half of a quarter is an eighth. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you were actually really close. 12.5 would have been an eighth. Damn, you were really close. I'm gonna say you got it, because it actually, it actually says 12 to 13%, and I just rounded up to 13 to make my argument better. [00:43:22] Speaker A: Nailed it. Nailed it. [00:43:25] Speaker B: Like, but it does, it does include Pentecostals. So, you know, China is where the church is growing fastest. [00:43:38] Speaker A: China, China. [00:43:41] Speaker B: And I've heard Iran. I've heard Iran. South China. I've gotta have my China. Have you seen that video? [00:43:52] Speaker A: They're killing it, man. They're killing it. I, I mean, there's so many videos out. I mean, you know what? I really like that little Asian dude. Solid. [00:44:00] Speaker B: It's three, six solid minutes of Trump just saying China. And it has, like, a rhythm, so it goes like, china, China, China, China. I've gotta have my China. People say, I don't like China. I love China. [00:44:16] Speaker A: Hey, let me ask you, man. So I, I, I'm not in disagreement with you on the Post and Millennial. I, I consider that the safer space to be. The, the right space to be. Are you a young Earth or an old Earther? [00:44:36] Speaker B: Undecided. [00:44:37] Speaker A: And did you know Adam didn't have a belly button? [00:44:42] Speaker B: I don't think that we know that for sure. It makes perfect. It makes sense that he wouldn't. [00:44:51] Speaker A: All right, sorry. So are you a young Earther or old Earther? [00:44:57] Speaker B: Undecided. [00:44:58] Speaker A: Speaking of what? [00:45:00] Speaker B: Oh, I was gonna say speaking. [00:45:01] Speaker A: No belly buttons. Are you gonna bring up Superman or something? [00:45:04] Speaker B: Speaking of Adam, Give me a damn second. You know that story about when Elisha is going through the wilderness and the 42 bears come out and kill all the boys who are making fun of him or the two bears? Sorry, it's 42 boys. It's two bears. They're. They're saying, go up, you old bald head. Go up, you old bald head. And then he calls the, the bears just kill all the kids. So we were joking about that at work the other day. Just like, you know, just bizarre things that are in the Bible with like, little context. I read it was in my Bible plan today. I read it over just like a day or two after we were talking about it, and I found like a little bit more contextually to make more sense of it. He, there's this water that's bitter or rotten or something's wrong with the water, and he makes it sweet again by putting salt in it. So he's like showing this like, dominion over creation the way that Adam was supposed to have. And then the very next paragraph is the bears. So it's like he's, he's like making the water sweet again and then he's got dominion over the animals and the animals come and, and defend him. [00:46:29] Speaker A: Oh, it's crazy. [00:46:30] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's like, it's not quite so out of context now. [00:46:35] Speaker A: When you said 42 bears, my first thought was like, damn, I've never seen bears roll so deep. Like in all the bear videos I've seen on TikTok and stuff, I've only seen them run like squads of maybe 4 to 5 or 42. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Like, that is a motley crew of 42 bears. [00:46:59] Speaker A: So are you an old Earth or a young Earther Man? [00:47:01] Speaker B: Undecided. I, I always was young Earth just because I didn't see any reason not to be. Now I'm just not. [00:47:11] Speaker A: 6,000 years. [00:47:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm, I'm just kind of agnostic on it because I'm pretty sure neither side has any idea how old the Earth is. I think that, you know, they've, to the young Earth to their credit, like they have found World War II planes that are under like a million years worth of ice and stuff like that. So it's like, clearly the old Earth dating protocols don't work quite as well. But then on the biblical side, it's like, I don't know if the Bible ever claimed to be, you know, that the world was 6,000 years. So I, you know, there's in genealogies sometimes if you compare two genealogies, they'll skip like four generations and they'll just say like, this dude begot this dude, but he was really like his great, great grandfather or something. So it's like if we're using genealogies to date things, like we might be missing four generations every other line, you know, and like, that would throw off our dating by by quite a lot when people were living to be a thousand years old. [00:48:19] Speaker A: On both, this is why. On both, this is why. When Adam was created, do you think he was created as a baby or a full grown. Let's say in your mind, is he 33? Like, let's say 26, like grown, right. [00:48:35] Speaker B: I think, I think he was like 16. Because I really like Blue Lagoon. [00:48:43] Speaker A: I did too. That was like the first movie with like Brook Shields. Now mind you, I can't watch it now cuz I feel like it's. It borderlines pedophilia. But like. [00:48:53] Speaker B: No, no, no, it's not that it's full, dude. [00:48:58] Speaker A: I feel like it is. [00:48:59] Speaker B: But you know what I just heard? [00:49:01] Speaker A: She was older than me. [00:49:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes, me too. So I feel like I should be grandfathered in and all right. And any picture, any picture that was sent to me by a minor when I was a minor, I think I should be allowed to keep. [00:49:23] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. I cannot believe. Wow. How many pictures. I'm not. We're fast forwarding. But Blue Lagoon. Yes. So you're fully developed man though, right? [00:49:39] Speaker B: Sorry, you cut out. [00:49:40] Speaker A: I said we're fast forwarding. Yeah, we're fast forwarding. Fully, fully developed young man, though, right? [00:49:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd say. [00:49:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you chop them open, parts are fully developed, Right. Organs, all that. [00:49:53] Speaker B: I don't have any reason. [00:49:55] Speaker A: So I'm an old Earth and young Earth, I believe God created the Earth. Fully developed plants, fully grown. Like, Adam wasn't roaming around for trees to grow. In fact, he was frolicking through the trees with God in the first two chapters of Genesis. And so I feel like God created things fully grown. Now, mind you, if you reverse engineer, time is speeding up. Right. Like, Interstellar is a great movie because the further you go away from Earth. Yes. The slower time is, and the closer you are to Earth, the faster time is. And so that's why they have to reset our gps. Like, you ever notice your watch, you have to like. I don't know if you have an analog watch like I do, but I have to reset it every couple of months because it loses minutes, it loses seconds. Like It's. It's still 60 seconds to a minute, but it's not lined up with my cell phone every day it loses time. And that's simply because we're speeding up in time. Like our days are getting shorter. However, they're still 24 hours. There's still 60 seconds in a minute, there's still, you know, 60 minutes in an hour. [00:51:09] Speaker B: There's because those times are relative. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Exactly. Now, with that being said, if you reverse engineer and you go backwards, the first day on Earth was equivalent to like a million, possibly a billion years according to scientists. [00:51:28] Speaker B: Really? [00:51:28] Speaker A: Like the first day reverse engineer, yes. Reversions Engineer and I, we had a scientist come into our class at School of Ministry that he was. He was a part of the gps, like the GPS system, if you will. Like, he told us, like, hey, every so often we have to recalculate every day, or every so often we have to recalculate the systems up in space because of time. Like, because time's slower up there, so we have to re. What is it when. Calibrate with the rec. Calibrate those. Those systems. But he said if you reverse engineer, this is how young and Old Earth work together. He goes, I fully believe the earth is 6,000 years old. However, people like, do you remember if I said tt? Would that make sense to you if his last name was. [00:52:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:52:24] Speaker A: Okay. So was a rocket scientist and he was Old Earth. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. [00:52:35] Speaker B: I saw him at Christmas, by the way. [00:52:38] Speaker A: Oh, right on. He is a scientist and he's Old Earth. And he's like. Because I feel the evidence, if the evidence is there to show Old Earth. Well, this is how I believe Old Earth and Young Earth work together. The Bible and people who think science proves Old Earth is that Adam was developed as a fully grown man. Therefore, I think things like stars being put in place because, you know, takes millions of years for light to travel to Earth from the stars, but yet we see them and they're supposed to be whatever. I think everything was developed fully in system for us to habitate. Therefore, it was fully grown trees. Trees were created, fully fully developed. And, you know, and yeah, the seeds and all that recreated younger trees, but still the original trees were fully developed, plants fully developed, animals fully developed. And so I think Young Earth and Old Earth work together. And according to the scientists, the first day was equivalent to like 16 billion years. [00:53:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:44] Speaker A: Although still 24 hours. [00:53:46] Speaker B: But. But I quibble even with that, because what is a day before the sun was created? Like a day is this the world rotating once in relation to the sun. So, like without the sun, which I think was like day three, like, there's no way to keep time for those two days. And. And it's not a linear. [00:54:11] Speaker A: My God did it. [00:54:14] Speaker B: Sure. I'm not saying God didn't do that. I'm saying time is very relative in that sense. [00:54:20] Speaker A: He labeled it Day one, day two, day Three, in fact. You said the sun was created on day three, meaning my God knew that there was two days prior to that. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Okay, sure. I'm just saying, what is a day? I don't know why you're acting like this, but then also, it's not linear, because in. So, Genesis 1 and 2 both kind of do the days of creation, and they tell it in different orders. And in one account, plants are invented before water, and in the other account, water is invented before the plants. I believe. Fact check me on that. [00:54:57] Speaker A: What chapters are you getting this from, bro? [00:54:58] Speaker B: Genesis 1 and 2. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Okay, well, I might be wrong. And 2 are, like, lineal, though. I believe 1 and 2 are very lineal in the sense of. [00:55:07] Speaker B: I think they're told slightly different orders. [00:55:12] Speaker A: In what different chapters, though? I mean, if you're reading this, chapters one and two, it goes through the seven days. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Did you. Do you remember that this was supposed to be a podcast about revelation? Another thing, another thing. And I've always said this. I so like aging and death and all that stuff that comes with the fall. I think it's very possible that the fall had an effect on creation that made things look much older or, you know, like it gave the trees more rings than they had because it aged them. Like, it was just bad for the earth, you know? [00:55:52] Speaker A: Well, I mean, that's to say that the first trees had rings. I mean, the first trees possibly maybe didn't have. [00:55:56] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. [00:55:57] Speaker A: Maybe they were. But again, I feel like with Adam, if you would have chopped him open, everything would have been fully developed, showing he aged 16 years without age in 16 years. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:11] Speaker A: Do you believe that, going back to Revelation, that your view on end times dictates how you live today? Because I remember. I remember being at a new beginning, and the new beginning was a debt consolidation company. The owner of the company got saved. Just wanted to go witness, just wanted to spread the gospel, just wanted to pray. We went 24 hours. We were open 24 hours at that point, with prayer teams, like in the office, evangelism teams going out daily. It was an awesome time. And, dude, it was such an awesome time. But one of the guys taught there because we had every. I think it was like every Wednesday at noon, we had a church service. And so we would all have to put our phones on hold, go sit down, church service, and listen to somebody preach a sermon. And one of the guys there was really big on, like, wanting to be a teacher. And so he sat down, he was like, hey, like, how you view end times dictates how you live today and you might not even know it. And I was like, in my mind, I was like, bs because no matter what I believe on the end times, I'm still living today for Christ, or I'm still living my life for Christ. So do you believe that, though, how you believe on how you. I mean, apparently you do because you wake up with a heart on every day that the world's getting better. Do you believe that it dictates your day, though? [00:57:48] Speaker B: I think it should. I don't know if it does, but I. I mean, it definitely affects how I see the news because, I mean, like, I think that America is flirting with a nuclear war with Russia, and that would probably be the end of the human race if that happened. So I don't really believe that's gonna happen. And maybe that's foolish. Maybe it would the world and then a small number of people would keep it going. I don't know. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:29] Speaker B: But it does make me cast out that anything that crazy would happen. [00:58:35] Speaker A: Those In Time preppers are gonna be the only ones left. And they're weird. [00:58:40] Speaker B: We can agree on that. It's like, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, like a small number of people, maybe 10,000 people will just be left and we'll keep the world going and we'll eventually, you know, repopulate and there will be Christians among them and the gospel will spread again. But if we're talking about most the earth dying, I do kind of doubt that's gonna happen. Just because. [00:59:07] Speaker A: Let me ask you this. Let's say you're post trib and you live how you live. How would it change if you were pre millennial daily? How would your daily life change if you were pre millennial? Would you just be bummed out? [00:59:21] Speaker B: See, they're not. [00:59:23] Speaker A: You wake up and you're like, fuck, I'm still here. [00:59:25] Speaker B: I think some dispensationalists do feel that way, to be honest. Yeah. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Because, like, every moment that passes them and they're like, I think I'm still here. [00:59:38] Speaker B: Maybe not. [00:59:38] Speaker A: I'm still here. [00:59:39] Speaker B: Like, when something bad happens, they're like, man, I just. I hope Jesus comes back right now. And it's like, well, he's. He's not. So how is that going to change your outlook here? You know, like, you might. You might. You know, First Corinthians 15 sums up what everyone's eschatological position should be, which is, Jesus says he's going to be at the right hand of the Father until all of his enemies are made a Footstool. So how. How he can be returning tomorrow when not all of his enemies are conquered? I don't. I don't know. [01:00:20] Speaker A: I guess. I guess you kind of wake up. You. For one, you wouldn't have a chubby. For two, you could have a Chubby. [01:00:27] Speaker B: You could have a Chubby out. Like, it would be a real bleak chubby. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you might wake up with the chubby on accident, but it'd go away real quick when you realize there's still enemies out there. [01:00:40] Speaker B: Yep. And maybe that would get you going again. Yeah. Israel for sure. It's just like, hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Is that a dead Palestinian kid? Oh, yeah, boy. [01:00:56] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, dude, you get. [01:00:58] Speaker B: Honestly, I'm only paraphrasing a little bit, dude. I hear people every day on the news call Palestinians animals and say that they should all be eradicated. And then on my feed, I see Easter morning services where Palestinians are worshiping Jesus and, you know, praying about the fact that their entire country has been leveled the course of a year. You know, it kind of makes me sick. [01:01:24] Speaker A: Hey, did you hear what happened over Easter weekend? No. That was the day after Easter. That was the day after Easter. I don't know. I went to church and some. I would consider him atheist was like, hey, did you hear what happened over Easter? Actually, the Christian dude said, hey, did you hear what happened over Easter? And he looked at the aces. Tell them what happened. And the atheist was like, yeah, a bunch of beheadings happened in the Middle east on Easter weekend. Like thousands. [01:01:53] Speaker B: I didn't hear about that. I'm gonna pull it up. [01:01:57] Speaker A: How'd that work in your little post millennial plan? [01:02:01] Speaker B: Actually, really well, because you know what happens in the Book of Acts every single time there's a high profile Martyr, there's like 3,000 people. No. [01:02:18] Speaker A: That only happened with Stephen the Levite. My bad. [01:02:21] Speaker B: Sorry. Sorry, I wasn't listening. No, no. Every time there's, like a big, you know, something bad happens to the church, a bunch of people get saved. It's always under persecution that the church thrives. That's why the. The biggest growing church is in China and Iran. So even that kind of level of persecution still works. It's still. It still totally works in my thing. Let's see. Easter beheaded. [01:02:47] Speaker A: According to my calculations, about 12,000 people got saved. [01:02:51] Speaker B: Ought to be any second now. [01:02:55] Speaker A: We just bumped up to 14%. [01:03:01] Speaker B: Nope, that's 1916. Are you sure they weren't messing with you? Oh, is it Nigeria. [01:03:13] Speaker A: Maybe? I don't know. They said somewhere Over. I. Look, if it's not in. In, like, my little state, I might go as far as, like, the U.S. i don't really listen when people ask me, what do you think about what's going on in Israel? I say. Because I get these texts. I get them from my Muslim friends. What do you. What do you think about what's going on with Israel? And I say, tell you the truth, I don't know what's going on with Israel. [01:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:46] Speaker A: So if it. If it doesn't. If it doesn't happen in my neighborhood, I don't know nothing about it. [01:03:51] Speaker B: That's how it should be. Honestly, we're not really supposed to know what's happening on the other side of the globe. It's too stressful. [01:04:00] Speaker A: It really is, dude. Like, the news used to be, what's going on in your city? And now the news is like, check this out. And then now I'm like, I don't know if I could believe you. [01:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Sincerely. [01:04:16] Speaker A: I'm like, check this out. Give me the basketball scores. [01:04:21] Speaker B: Well, we've got American politicians signing bombs before Israel launches them into a decrepit little country. [01:04:29] Speaker A: So they're. They're, like, autographing the bombs themselves. [01:04:34] Speaker B: Nikki Haley went and wrote, like, yay for Israel or something on a bomb before they launched it over to kill a bunch of kids in Palestine. That's not even. I mean, I don't know kids, but. [01:04:50] Speaker A: I've never seen a bomb blow up. But there's two parts of this one, that's a wasted autograph. Okay, two, if you were to be in that area after the bomb blew up and you found that piece of metal, what do you think the price would go for? [01:05:09] Speaker B: Hmm? I mean, I would pay nothing for it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think you could. I think it would all explode, so I think it's more symbolic. [01:05:21] Speaker A: Never mind. [01:05:22] Speaker B: Which makes it even sicker to try to go dig in through the rubble. [01:05:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:33] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, this was your house. Okay, we're gonna be one minute, I swear. We just. We're looking for. We're looking for Marco Rubio's signature. [01:05:48] Speaker A: Thing. It. Nope. That's a dead dog. Never mind. Keep moving. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Oh, this was your dead dog. Oh, I'm sorry. Happy Easter. We got to be moving on. [01:06:01] Speaker A: You haven't seen anything that look like. Like, look, this is. Look at my phone. That's Mark Rubio's signature. Have you seen anything that looks like that? [01:06:09] Speaker B: Oh, oh, you're blinded by chemical attacks. I'm sorry. You haven't seen anything whatsoever. [01:06:15] Speaker A: You're fucking. You're fucking useless. [01:06:18] Speaker B: You're fucking useless. God. Why would you even waste my time like that? This person doesn't speak English. [01:06:27] Speaker A: No, I haven't seen your fucking family. I'm looking for Marco Rubio's signature. What do you think? [01:06:33] Speaker B: Check the hospital before it's bombed? That's probably where they are. They're probably worried sick about you. [01:06:41] Speaker A: They're probably worried sick about you. Now look at my phone again. Have you seen this signature? [01:06:50] Speaker B: I'm trying to find Anthony Blinken's signature on this. Damn. [01:06:56] Speaker A: I only got a weak pto, bro. I gotta make some. Judy. I gotta get back. [01:07:04] Speaker B: You know how much fucking money it costs to fly here on Spirit Airlines? Now we would definitely fly United Emirates, right? With those. [01:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, for sure. [01:07:18] Speaker B: With those stewardesses. With those lovely ladies. [01:07:23] Speaker A: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you know about Emirates that I don't? I was thinking first class beds, which does work with the stewardess. [01:07:34] Speaker B: Right? Wait, I got a yes. And this. [01:07:39] Speaker A: I mean, I was thinking the beds. You were thinking stewardess? I think those two go hand in hand. [01:07:44] Speaker B: I wasn't going that far. [01:07:45] Speaker A: What? [01:07:46] Speaker B: You're about to say United Emirates, I believe, exclusively hires gorgeous Arab women, be stewardesses. They. They have, like, weight requirements. [01:07:56] Speaker A: How do you not think that far. [01:07:58] Speaker B: Requirements? I mean, isn't that. [01:08:00] Speaker A: How do you not think that far? You're like. No, I was just thinking, like, they'd be good eye candy. You're that guy. You're that guy that goes to the strip club just to watch them dance. I'm the guy that goes to the strip club to leave with one. [01:08:12] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:13] Speaker A: You're the guy that just wants to watch him dance for a little bit. [01:08:15] Speaker B: Okay, let me get this straight. So in this scenario where we're dumpster diving in Palestine for signatures from bombs that couldn't have possible survived, you're mad at me that I won't fuck a stewardess on the way? You know what? You're right. As I say it out loud, I realize this is fantasy. [01:08:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:08:34] Speaker B: We should do whatever we want. [01:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. As you said out loud, I was like, how do you not view this as, like, the ultimate weekend? [01:08:45] Speaker B: It takes a weekend to fly out there. [01:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I was simply talking about the flight. [01:08:54] Speaker B: We. We went to Palestine for lunch. It was great. It was great. I don't know what they're bitching. Yeah. [01:09:02] Speaker A: I got Mark Rubio's signature. [01:09:06] Speaker B: Signature. I'm trying to think of some other swamp creature. What's a funny name? [01:09:17] Speaker A: Who was that guy that was running for president? That was. Was Mormon. [01:09:22] Speaker B: Oh, Mitt Romney. That's a great one. I bet Mitt Romney has been signing those bombs too. [01:09:29] Speaker A: Man. Do you know what? So this is what I don't get about us, dude, is we have, like, presidents in place for no more than two terms, eight years. But then we got people like, what's her name? Rbg? Who is that? [01:09:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:45] Speaker A: Yeah, we have her in place for her whole fucking life, dude. Yeah. Like, how does that happen? [01:09:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. People blamed her for holding on too long and allowing Donald Trump to choose three Supreme Court justices in his first term, which is, I think, a record. [01:10:07] Speaker A: What is that a doy? A Doyle. You know what a Doyle is? No, it was like paper. [01:10:15] Speaker B: Oh, a doily. [01:10:16] Speaker A: Posters. [01:10:16] Speaker B: Yeah, doily. [01:10:18] Speaker A: A doily. Why did she wear a fucking doily around her neck? [01:10:21] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know anything about her other than the fact that she loved killing babies. That was her whole. [01:10:31] Speaker A: I knew nothing about her except for she wore a fucking doily around her neck. And all my liberal friends were like, while she died. And they were like, really? When my liberal friends get upset, I'm like, yeah, I should probably be happy. [01:10:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I. I wrote a blog when she died, basically about how, like, it was a good thing she died. Like, there were so many Christians who were like, posting nice things about her after she died. And I was like, hey, like, abortion was her whole thing for like 40 years or however long she was a Supreme Court justice. Like, it's a better world now. Like, post mill baby, she's dead. Like, come on. Oh, it's insane. Like, the Christian culture of venerating our government is nuts. [01:11:27] Speaker A: Christian culture in general is nuts, dude. Like, again, being at that party with the two gay fathers and like, that Christian dude sitting across me was like, I don't understand why people think homosexuality is wrong. And I'm like, because it's in the Bible and you can't get a baby from Adam and Steve. You know what I mean? Like, come on, dude. [01:11:48] Speaker B: Like, so basic. It's not. I don't get why. It's kind of like the abortion thing where, like, nobody is arguing that this is not a baby anymore. That about 15 years ago they stopped arguing whether or not this was a baby because we all know it's a baby. So now the whole arguments about, like, whether we have the right to kill this baby and it's the same. It should Be the same thing with homosexuality. Like, everyone's pretending to not know why it's wrong when, like, the Bible says it. Like, it should just be, hey, we know it's in the Bible, but. But, like, we've got this argument or that argument for why we shouldn't follow that anymore. Like, isn't that the more logical argument? If you wanted to sign. Two things. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Two things. A man kills a pregnant woman, how many murder convictions does he get? [01:12:37] Speaker B: Dose. [01:12:39] Speaker A: Dose, Dose. Why? When a woman kills a baby, how many murder convictions does she get? [01:12:46] Speaker B: Zero. [01:12:46] Speaker A: Unless the baby's out of her womb. [01:12:48] Speaker B: She gets three days off. [01:12:58] Speaker A: It's nuts, bro. It's nuts. [01:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:02] Speaker A: Have you seen what a fetus. When. When sperm hits an actual egg, what happens? [01:13:08] Speaker B: The light. [01:13:09] Speaker A: It's the light. Is that not nuts? [01:13:12] Speaker B: It's pretty nuts. [01:13:14] Speaker A: Oh, I saw that, and I was like, that is nuts. That's crazy, dude. That's life right there. [01:13:21] Speaker B: Yep. [01:13:22] Speaker A: Right at that moment, it's life. [01:13:24] Speaker B: It's crazy that we can even have that, that we can even see that. And I wonder, like, how, like, is that enhanced? Like, do. Do they do something to that? Like, can we even see that with a microscope? Like. [01:13:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, like, do they have, like, a camera up in that thing while they're doing it? [01:13:43] Speaker B: Oh, it's got to be. It's got to be outside the womb. It's got to be like a test tube baby. [01:13:49] Speaker A: Oh, I mean, like, that's kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right. [01:13:55] Speaker B: But, like, you see these. [01:13:56] Speaker A: I've had a camera in there once, but it was way different. [01:14:01] Speaker B: The. The definition was not as high quality. [01:14:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that go. I don't care what they say about GoPros. The quality on it was shit. There was no light. There was no light. [01:14:16] Speaker B: It ruined my trip to Palestine, I'll tell you what. [01:14:22] Speaker A: So last time I fly United Emirates. [01:14:27] Speaker B: But, like, you'll see a crazy picture of space or something, like a planet or something, and then you find out, like, oh, we had to color it because, like, color doesn't work the same out in space. So we just made it red. Like, it's not really red. Like, red doesn't exist outside of, like, our context for color, you know? So, like, go ahead. [01:14:50] Speaker A: I. Have you. Have you seen a picture of a star? [01:14:56] Speaker B: Yes. [01:14:59] Speaker A: They're saying now this is. And I believe this, that because of the firmament, that's why stars cannot be clearly seen. Like, clear. They're always somewhat blurry because you're looking through water at something far away that I just. I agree with that. Mind you. I was had. They're setting up over this huge event at my job site. And again, our. We serve the client I'm working for. Their clients are NASA, CIA, dod, in all military branches. And we're standing there and they're building this, this capsule that, that we just purchased from Italy, of all people, because we've been renting from Russia for our whole time and space. And so now we have one that we own that Italy built. And you know, the Italians, they make it. They make quality shit. And so agree to disagree. I saw that. I knew you were gonna do that. Yeah. Might as well say hencho in Mexico. So. [01:16:06] Speaker B: Hey, they're really, really good at rape and murder. Okay, I'll give that to them. Okay. They're really good. [01:16:15] Speaker A: They have this monitor where like these. It shows like, it's like there's a doorway and instead of like in this doorway, they have a monitor to show how astronauts would come through. You know, so it looks like when you're looking at this mock up that these astronauts are coming through the door area. I'm standing there with the client. I'm like, damn, dude. Like, they really hid the wires well on this one. And like, he looks at me and he's like, what are you talking about? I'm like. [01:16:44] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [01:16:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Those astronauts are floating like they're, they have no wires attached to them. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't believe, I don't believe any of that, dude. And I tell them every day I see them, you guys are really. The fact that you guys have this facility and many over the, the whole world, you guys are really trying to sell this. We landed on the, the moon thing, man. Like, you guys are really committed to this sale and I, I appreciate that. [01:17:15] Speaker B: I'm more and more convinced that the, the moon landing was fake. I'm not on board with the flat Earth stuff. But I do have to ask myself why? Because, like, if all of the space stuff is fake, then like, flat Earth is on the table, right? I mean, like, it's, It'd have to be. [01:17:35] Speaker A: It is because all of our, all of our images of Earth are from NASA. And if you look throughout the generations, not including the years, our Earth. How come the US is always straight up NASA images of the Earth? We always see the U.S. as we. [01:17:56] Speaker B: Know the U.S. because we recognize the. [01:17:57] Speaker A: Shape we Never see it upside fucking down. Yeah, but you never see it upside down. Well, they probably see it over here. [01:18:04] Speaker B: Flip the picture upside down just so we see it in the right shape. Okay. You can't just shake your head. Okay. All right. We've got a. What's. What's the word? We got a fucking. A robot here who believes what tells. No, but, like, I think, like, I don't have any question about, like, the shape of the Earth or anything, because we've got satellite images. And, like, I know satellites are real because that's how GPS works. The. [01:18:35] Speaker A: Yeah, but satellites are within our firmament. They're not. They're not. [01:18:39] Speaker B: But they're. They're far enough out to get a picture of the Earth. [01:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah, far enough to get a circle. But even a flat Earth is still circle. [01:18:49] Speaker B: Yeah, but you could see the curvature. [01:18:54] Speaker A: Okay. [01:18:59] Speaker B: Okay. Whatever. Okay, sure. I bet you love Israel, too, faggot. [01:19:11] Speaker A: Okay, so how do you feel about Israel? That's a good point, though. How do you feel about Israel? [01:19:15] Speaker B: Kind of on topic. [01:19:15] Speaker A: I don't know how to feel about Israel. [01:19:18] Speaker B: Look, man, the more you look into it, the. The. You cannot deny they are. They are carrying out a genocide against people that they've been enslaving for decades. And for some reason. And I've got a theory about this, for some reason, the US Just wants to let them off the hook for that. But they wouldn't be letting Russia off the hook. If Russia was in the same position, they would not be funding it. [01:19:47] Speaker A: Look, I'm not gonna lie. The whole pager thing. The whole pager bomb thing, that was genius. [01:19:54] Speaker B: That was kind of cool. That's what I hate about it. It was. It was. It was kind of cool, but, like, some kids died in that thing, too, you know? So it's just like they just. [01:20:07] Speaker A: Yeah, but at the same time, I'm like, who in the. Is still using pagers? [01:20:11] Speaker B: Well, that was the. I think they said. I think they said that these pagers were, like, 10 years old. Like, they planted these, like, a long. [01:20:19] Speaker A: They were. [01:20:22] Speaker B: It's nuts. [01:20:23] Speaker A: I don't know about all that, but the fact that these guys are still using them. [01:20:26] Speaker B: Well, yeah, because they're, like, off the grid. They're terrorists. So it's like. Yeah, they got to use, like, fax machines stuff, but. Yeah. It's my theory is this. So don't lose. Don't. Don't tune out when I say Jeffrey Epstein. Okay? [01:20:48] Speaker A: I'm not. [01:20:49] Speaker B: Jeffrey Epstein gets popped. [01:20:51] Speaker A: I know the man. [01:20:51] Speaker B: Well, he's A good guy. He. The financier. I don't know if you know, he. He's a very. [01:20:58] Speaker A: He treated me well. [01:21:00] Speaker B: I had a great weekend with him. And I can't. I can't talk about it, but it was a pretty good time. [01:21:09] Speaker A: All I say, All I can say is, pepsi commercial. Wouldn't have had it without him. [01:21:21] Speaker B: That new can is great. I can't remember the line. I can't remember the line. What's the line? [01:21:29] Speaker A: Yeah, is that a great new Pepsi? Oh, yeah, dude, I can't give away the line because then people will go back and research. [01:21:34] Speaker B: I've never, I never said you were in the commercial. I'll cut this out. I'll cut all this out. [01:21:40] Speaker A: Yeah, me neither. [01:21:41] Speaker B: Jeffrey Epstein gets popped for trafficking underage girls or having sex with something in Florida. And the sheriff or the prosecutor, whoever it was in, in the documentary, he claims, I was told to go easy on him because he's in the intelligence community, which means he's CIA or something like that. That's just what the cop said. Far be it for me to believe what a cop says, but in this context, I don't know why this guy would make that up. [01:22:16] Speaker A: Yeah, you pick and choose. Go on. [01:22:17] Speaker B: So, you know, context by context. Yeah, Situation by situation. There's, you know, I, I'm not seeing, I'm not seeing his angle on this. Do you know that? [01:22:29] Speaker A: Unless he's on Cops, which is also a documentary. [01:22:39] Speaker B: I'm talking to an expert here. Galain Ghisain. Maxwell's dad was a member of MO, which is like Israel's version of the CIA. And CIA, Mossad and MI6, which is like the British intelligence, they all work very closely. [01:23:00] Speaker A: Now, that person you just named, that's the female that was helping him, right? [01:23:04] Speaker B: Her dad was a member of Mossad. [01:23:06] Speaker A: Okay? [01:23:07] Speaker B: And that's not a conspiracy. If you pull it up on Wikipedia or any source, they're. They're not making any bones about that. That's. That's a fact. So now you take Jeffrey Epstein, who has some relation to the intelligence agencies, and his girlfriend's dad was in Mossad, and now you've got him taking pictures of us politicians having sex with underage girls, blackmailing them. Clearly that that was happening. You've got the US Doing anything Israel wants, no matter how unpopular it is, how. No matter how bad it is for America, no matter how unpopular, you know? [01:23:50] Speaker A: Well, they follow that Martin Binyahu or guy, whatever he says with terrorists, they follow. [01:23:55] Speaker B: Exactly. He's been telling us that Iran is five years away from a nuclear weapon. For the last 40 years they've never been working on nuclear weapons. So there's just all these things that it's just like, why, why when it's so unpopular? Why, when it's, when we don't have the money to fund this. Like why, when it's so obviously, like, I mean, it's been classified as war crimes. It's been classified as like, I mean Netanyahu is like wanted by like some international agency for war crimes. So it's like, why do we keep going along? Why do we. Why does Donald Trump say everything he says about Ukraine and then none of that applies to Palestine? Like why, why is this? Well, it would make sense if Mossad had blackmail on every major US politician fucking an underage child. Yeah. If that's what was going on for 40 years when Jeffrey Epstein was running things, then, yeah, it would make sense why nobody wants to go against Israel, you know? [01:25:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And that guy hates America. [01:25:05] Speaker B: Netanyahu. [01:25:07] Speaker A: Yeah, hates. [01:25:07] Speaker B: Dude, dude, he. So after. I'm gonna forget what it was called. It was the Something Accords. It was not the Abraham Accords. It was, it was the one that Bill Clinton did. They, they basically reached some kind of agreement about a two state solution with Palestine. And he's on tape after Bill Clinton leaves. He's on tape bragging about how he got Bill Clinton to agree to this bogus deal. He's like, yeah, I got him to agree that like we, we would make a new state for Palestine, but it doesn't apply to terrorists. So we can just call Palestine terrorists and then we don't have to. You know, he just like, I think he said the word poison pill. He said, I put so many poison pills in this deal that it's never gonna go. And just, he's on and he shows. [01:25:55] Speaker A: Up with a fucking coke and a smile and he's like. And we're like, yeah, you're awesome, dude. [01:25:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then, and then goes before Congress in 2002 and, and tells Congress that we, we have to invade Iraq because Iran will get nuclear weapons if we don't and democracy will sweep the region. And so that was 23 years ago. Where's all the democracy in. In Iraq? What's even going on in Iraq? Do you even know? Like, I don't have any idea what's happening in Iraq right now. Are we even there anymore? [01:26:27] Speaker A: I heard a couple, maybe a couple months ago, maybe last year, I think it was last year that the women were taking off their Hijabs. Hijabs. That's about all I know about Iraq. [01:26:40] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I mean, it's just certain. [01:26:43] Speaker A: And rightly so, because some of those women are. Some of those women are beautiful. Now, mind you, most of them should probably stick to the hijabs. [01:26:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:56] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [01:26:58] Speaker B: It's true. Have you seen those pictures of, like, I think it's Iraq in the 70s where, like, it's just normal chicks, like, wearing bell bottom jeans and, like, riding bikes through the downtown area. And so they're like, just riding bikes through Baghdad, you know, and it's like, well, what happened all of a sudden? Well, we funded Islamic terrorist groups to take over the government. And then. And then everything went to. It's like. It's not. [01:27:24] Speaker A: Well, here's the thing, dude. Like, I'm not against. I'm not against. Iraq's hard on for. For us in England because it was. Who was that one dude that they. They make movies about, you know, English guy. He was the. He's the reason why he went over. He went over and basically monopolized the gas in. In. In. In Iraq and was like, hey, you know, we're your only buyers. You sell to us. Gosh, they make. They make movies about this guy, dude, he's like the right hand to Queen Elizabeth for a while before he died. But anyhow, that's kind of where all this started. And it. I read it in a book called the Shaman, like the Last Shamans or some like that. But yeah, he went over there and was like, hey, like, he cut a deal with them now, mind you, their dumb asses agreed to it. But, yeah, they were kind of pissed that, you know, he monopolized their gas and, you know, used it. Good. Kudos for him, though, dude, that he knew gas was going to be that fucking. You know what I mean? Like, oh, shit. Like, jumped on the. Jumped on the bandwagon was like, you know what? I'm going to capitalize on this. There are some people who move mountains, you know, they see ahead. They see ahead of the curve, you know? I mean. Mm. It's like Axelrod Axle. I don't know. Axle. Something from billions. Like, when 9, 11 happened and stock prices in planes plummeted, he went and invested in them. [01:29:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:09] Speaker A: Because they were bound to come back. That's from Billions, by the way, on hbo. Good show. [01:29:15] Speaker B: I wanted to watch it because I'm a huge fan of Dan Soder, but my wife just wasn't into it and I don't really watch stuff on my own, so just never watched. [01:29:32] Speaker A: Is very intriguing. It's very good. I can see from a barista aspect of not wanting to really get into it, but from a professor aspect, I. [01:29:43] Speaker B: Don'T see that in the first episode when he's getting peed on by that dominatrix. She pretty much checked out at that point. [01:29:52] Speaker A: Yeah, he does have a weird fetish that does die. That does die out. It's not, like, as big, but it is something that comes back and, like, while he's running for certain positions in the government, they bring it up and he just. He just kind of, like, tackles it head on. Like, hey, look, like some of us have fetishes. Okay. [01:30:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:13] Speaker A: And, yeah, you know, I go. And this is what happens. But, like. But really good show. Really good show. [01:30:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:22] Speaker A: Has a lot of good actors. Some of the same actors from. What's that American one that the flag's upside down. House of Cards. Some of the same actors from House of Cards. [01:30:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And the main guy was on Homeland, right? [01:30:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I think he was. [01:30:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that was a pretty good show. [01:30:42] Speaker A: I haven't seen that one. [01:30:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I only watched the first season, but it was. It was interesting. [01:30:49] Speaker A: He. [01:30:49] Speaker B: He was, like, in a pow. Who was, like, unaccounted for, and they thought he was dead. And then he ends up getting found and coming back to America, and then they're like. They're thinking that he's a mole, and then it turns out, like, he's Muslim now and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So there. [01:31:11] Speaker A: I. I think that's a plot twist. [01:31:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. That was, like, how the first episode ended. Like, he goes out to the garage, and they're, like, surveilling him, and they're like, what's he doing out there? And he's, like, always behind, like, a cabinet, so they don't see what he's doing. But then it shows. At the end of the episode, he gets the rug out and he, like, kneels down on the rug and stuff. And it's like, now, for. [01:31:33] Speaker A: For our viewers who don't know who we're talking about. Supplachos. Because he's a ginger. [01:31:38] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, that's worth. That's worth noting. Yeah. Wasn't the ISIS guy that British ISIS guy? Wasn't he a redhead? [01:31:51] Speaker A: Is that the guy that was a. Like a rapper or a singer or something, or a celebrity of some sort of. [01:31:58] Speaker B: I don't think so. [01:32:01] Speaker A: Often there's a documentary on some guy. I want to say there was, like, some musician that was down. Oh, No, I was way off. Samsonite. I was way off. [01:32:18] Speaker B: What were you talking about, dude? [01:32:21] Speaker A: I was talking about some guy that was, like, down for isis. He was a musician put in, like, musician something with ISIS put in. You know, you wordsmith that thing, and they ended up, like, killing him. [01:32:43] Speaker B: See, the problem is there's a. There's a rock band called isis. [01:32:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm. I'm horrible with certain celebrities, but I want to say it was like, it wasn't McLemore. It was some. I don't know. I want to say it was something like that. There's a documentary now, but a British. [01:33:04] Speaker B: Rapper named Barry. [01:33:07] Speaker A: Possibly. Yeah. Down with isis. And then did he die as he did? [01:33:13] Speaker B: Yes, he died in 2023. [01:33:16] Speaker A: Good for him. Yeah, yeah. So apparently, yeah, he was, like, promoting ISIS and then they ended up killing him. So. Yeah, have your cake. Eat it too. [01:33:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I read the other day that there was this, like, leftist journalist, like this communist guy who flew to Cambodia to do a piece on Paul Pot because he wanted to, like, promote the communism over there. Oh, and Paul Potter. Yeah. [01:33:48] Speaker A: Who's. Dude, I'm thinking. Okay, maybe I'm thinking wrong. Paul Pot. Maybe I'm thinking of Paul Potts. Operatic singer. Yeah. Operatic singer. [01:33:58] Speaker B: No. Paul Pot was the leader of Cambodia. [01:34:03] Speaker A: My bad. [01:34:05] Speaker B: You know what? Highest body count of any dictator in history. He killed like 60 million people. Like, Stalin killed like 20 million. Hitler killed like 10. [01:34:18] Speaker A: So he made. He made the killer hall of fame. [01:34:21] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. And, like, it's crazy. He is not talked about more than, like, some of those other guys. [01:34:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's another good comedy bit, I want to say. Tosh point. No, Maybe. Is it Tosh Pointer that has the killer hall of Fame? No, it's got to be Bill Burr. I think it's Bilber. It's Bilberry. Bill Burr. Yeah. [01:34:42] Speaker B: What? What was that? [01:34:44] Speaker A: Oh, look it up. Bill Burr is killer hall of Fame. Oh, it's hilarious, dude. He talks about, like, if there was a Hall of. Like, if there was a Hall of fame of. Of killers. He's like, we always talk about Hitler. [01:35:00] Speaker B: I don't think Hitler would, like, go back to the top 10, dude. [01:35:05] Speaker A: No, no, that's what he. That's basically what he's saying is we talk about. [01:35:09] Speaker B: It's almost like he wasn't that bad, you know? It's like he had some good ideas. [01:35:15] Speaker A: Don't. Don't turn fighter on me. Don't turn UFC fighter on me, dude. [01:35:21] Speaker B: No, I just think it's so hilarious. That like, as soon as you start to say something like, Joseph Stalin objectively killed twice the people that Hitler did and they were his people. Hitler killed like people he saw as, as others. Joseph Stalin killed his own people. But as soon as you start to say, as soon as you start people, people are like, oh, so you're making excuses for Hitler now? [01:35:48] Speaker A: I get Hitler's view because there's sometimes where I'm like, why do we have certain people in the. Like, why do we let certain people live on? And I'm not just talking about the retards. I'm talking about like certain people. Like you let them. [01:36:05] Speaker B: Like certain pointy nosed people with the little head. [01:36:12] Speaker A: There are certain, the little f in the little curly hairs. No, dude, I'm talking about like, there are certain people where I'm like, man, how'd you make it this far in life? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, Karen's. Karen's a good example of like, you're just not doing any good for the world. How many. How. What's the percentage of Karen's in the world there, bro? It's got to be more than an eighth. [01:36:41] Speaker B: I. I don't know. It's not 1/10 of all people screaming at a black man in Starbucks, right? I mean, it's got to be lower than that. [01:36:53] Speaker A: I don't know, man. I follow some dedicated pages to making sure Karen's get what they deserve, you know, Seems to be a lot of them. [01:37:02] Speaker B: So you're saying like, you get eugenics? [01:37:06] Speaker A: Oh, man, you put it like that. Okay, hear me out, hear me out. For the longest time. For the longest time, I didn't know what song you were singing until you did the. Whoa. [01:37:27] Speaker B: No, that's. [01:37:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it is, it is, but I know what song you're singing still. [01:37:35] Speaker B: Get your skag hooker wife and get the out of here. For the longest. [01:37:44] Speaker A: What movie was that from, dude? [01:37:46] Speaker B: Step brother. [01:37:47] Speaker A: Is that from step brothers? [01:37:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's always step brothers. Look, we only do 80s, Joel. Now get your skate cooker wife and get the out of here. [01:38:07] Speaker A: I thought, for the longest time, I thought euthanasia was referring to the youth in Asia. Yeah, I was like, what's the big deal about the youth in Asia? No, I'm not, I'm not for genocide, but eugenics at the same time. That sounds like a workout. What is eugenics? [01:38:36] Speaker B: That's, that's like sterilizing undesirables and like what Hitler did. [01:38:47] Speaker A: You know? Oh, man, this is such a wrestle with my conscience because like, I see People take. [01:38:55] Speaker B: Why, why is this wrestling with your conscience? It shouldn't be. [01:39:04] Speaker A: No, no, it's not, it's not. I don't know. No, I was kidding, man. I was kidding. I see the good that they do for the caretakers, you know, like when I see caretakers take care of them, like Ernie Johnson from inside the NBA, he's. He's adopted kids with actual like defects and that need special, special care. And I just see a guy like that, I'm like, dang, dude, like you're a special person. Like you're, There's a special soul and heart about you. But then at the same time I'm like, there's a part of me, it's like, what's that dude ever gonna do? You know what I mean? Like, like I have uncles where I'm like, now I ain't going to their funeral. They were not a positive on society. What did they ever give back into society that made a difference? So why in the hell would I go to their funeral? You know what I mean? Like they were a burden on everybody they engaged with, with and more so those with special needs. I mean, like, however, I, I don't. This is the conscience wrestle. Like, I don't know man, I, I don't want to say cuz I feel like I'm going to go to hell, you know what I mean? [01:40:18] Speaker B: Like. [01:40:20] Speaker A: But I just know God didn't give me a special, a child with special needs. Because like, I don't. I think it would definitely guarantee my ticket to hell cuz I'd just be like, fuck this guy, dude. Like, dude, you know what I mean? Like, hey, dribble chin, I'm going to the store. [01:40:38] Speaker B: Do you need anything? [01:40:44] Speaker A: I had neighbors. I had neighbors who had like a 14 year old son who like still wore diapers. Had to go everywhere in a wheelchair. Like, couldn't do like, didn't. Couldn't speak a word, just cried, scream, yelled. And we were at the pool and they were like, ah, this retard. And I was like, holy. I was taken back because I was like, wow. I was totally thinking that, like, are you a mind reader? And they were like, I was like, you call him retard? They're like, yeah, he's. [01:41:20] Speaker B: And I'm like, I mean look at him. [01:41:25] Speaker A: But in my mind I'm like, dude, that's so not PC. How do you get away with that? And they're like, it's. It's not cheating when it's your dog. You know what I mean? It was like, it's. It's. It's fair game when it's your kid. And I'm like, ah, dude, I don't know if I could ever do that. Would you? Popping in and sand, maybe. Wow. [01:41:49] Speaker B: I. Yeah, it. It's just a word, man. And, like, it just means slow. It's like, I get that it became an insult, but, you know. You know what I mean? [01:42:04] Speaker A: Like, I throw it out flippantly, dude. I try and make people uneasy when I say it, dude. Yeah, like, when I say that's, I say with some gusto, you know? I mean, I'm like, that's retarded. And I. I only had one chick in a bar say, you shouldn't say that. And the bar was, like, kind of upscale. I was by myself. I was talking to a female next to me, you know? You know, my ammo. And she. She said something. I said, that's retarded. She goes, you shouldn't say that. And then I was bent on saying it because I was like, it's like, ah, but that's not really the right word. That's not a nice word to say. It was just like, now I don't like you like that chub you gave me. Gone, gone, gone, gone. Like you're being retarded. You know what I mean? Like, it just. It just. It's. It's. I hate how people get so stuck on certain words. I will say number four today. Oh, she's amazing. [01:43:06] Speaker B: She beat up a return. First of all, it was awesome. [01:43:11] Speaker A: She. She stayed home with me. I kept her home today so we could play some Mario Kart. And I hook her up to the hotspot, and she goes, it says weak security. What does that mean? I said, well, it means the security is weak. And she was like, yeah, I read that. What's it mean? And I was like, oh, I like the fact. I like this. This fire back. And I was like, that means the security on the device is weak. Like, it's not real secure, because the password is, like, very easy to figure out. But we were playing Mario Kart, and she goes, can I. Can I please say it? And I'm like, what? She was. Can I just. Can I just tell Bowser. Can I just say something to Bowser? And I'm like, sure. She's like, you're a fucking bitch, Bowser. She's like, sorry, I just had to get it out. I was like, no, no, no, you're good. You're good. Keep rolling, Keep rolling. [01:44:10] Speaker B: Can I please say it? Okay, cool. You're a. She, like, prepares herself. So she tells me, thank you, sweet. I'm gonna say it. [01:44:22] Speaker A: She tells me your cuss words. She tells me her secret cuss words. So she's like, hey, dad, I figured out how to say the B word without saying it. And I'm like, what? She goes, I call people a dish. And I'm like, what? She was, yeah. Like, instead of saying, you're a bitch, I'll say, you're a dish. And I'm like, oh. So we're sitting with, like, my number three and her boyfriend, and we're playing video games and we're playing Mario Party at this time. And it was last night. She goes, she looks over and he. He stole something from her. She goes, oh, you're such a dish. And I'm like, oh. Like, in my mind, I was like, I know exactly what you called him. But they didn't catch on to it. They were like, they just kept rolling like it was nothing. And I was like, oh, dude, she just called you A. Like, in my mind, I'm like, she just called you a. [01:45:12] Speaker B: That's hilarious. [01:45:12] Speaker A: She flips people off. Instead of flipping them off with her middle finger, she does her pinky. So when she shows, it's like she's being polite. Yeah, she's. She's funny, dude. [01:45:24] Speaker B: A co worker of mine that I used to work with had a son with down syndrome. And bless his heart, yeah, he's. You know, he was cool. I met him once or twice. He was high functioning in. In that world. I will say I've. I've seen some that are. Yeah, he. He went to normal school and everything, but little behind, but cool guy. And we got on the subject of the word retarded once, and she just goes like, I just hate that word. I can't stand to hear it. It just breaks my heart, all this stuff. And I'm just like, yeah, I mean, but it was like the medical term at one point, you know, she was like, yeah, I know. And that was wrong. I was like, it wasn't wrong when it was the medical term. Like, it. It became an insult because it was the medical term and now it's an insult. But, like, nobody calls retarded people retarded. Like, they call them mentally challenged or something. Like, the only thing they say retarded about is like, you tripped on your shoelaces or so, you know, they. They only use it for people who aren't retarded. So, like, really, you're the only one calling your son retarded? Right now. [01:46:46] Speaker A: Honestly, that's. That's the truth. Like, I don't call. I'll never call a. Yeah. Like, I might say it when they're gone. I might be like, I'm glad that left the room. But I'll never say it to their face because they usually have, like, crazy strength as well. Like, it don't just come with, like. You know what I mean? [01:47:06] Speaker B: That was a great. [01:47:07] Speaker A: I remember Kevin Green at school, like, he had. They don't call it retard strength because it's not strength. They call it retard strength because, like, it is supernatural. [01:47:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:20] Speaker A: It's like what they lack in brain, they make up in muscle. [01:47:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Literally. That's a great deal. [01:47:27] Speaker A: Kevin would go apeshit crazy, and I. I hate saying that because he was. He was a black. Definitely go crazy on us. [01:47:40] Speaker B: A Daniel Tosh joke that great. He said, retarded people are said to have the strength of 10 men, and a monkey is said to have the strength of 10 men as well. So a retarded monkey would be like a borderline superhero. [01:48:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that would be true. [01:48:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:11] Speaker A: All right. [01:48:11] Speaker B: I think that's about it for Revelation. Let's see. Revelation. Revelation. We talked about. We talked about banging stewardesses. We talked about. I think we got everything on Revelation. [01:48:25] Speaker A: Yep. And I think at the end of the night, whether I'm post or awe, I'm going to hell. [01:48:33] Speaker B: No, that's. That's not true. [01:48:34] Speaker A: Thanks, man. I was hoping for some reassurance. Yeah. Based on your word. [01:48:39] Speaker B: Yeah. That's not the reason you're going to hell. There's a lot of other reasons. The eugenics, I think. No, that's. [01:48:52] Speaker A: Speaking of which, I gotta get. I gotta get my. My eugenics and my cardio in tomorrow. That was Spanish and. And European. Yeah. And you're probably going to hell just because you consider your wife Mexican. You prefer. You prefer your wife Mexican. That's the crazier part. [01:49:16] Speaker B: Yes, That's. That's. Yeah. [01:49:19] Speaker A: Yes. [01:49:22] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, it's just the hardest thing about having a daughter that's one quarter Italian is just knowing that I could only be 3/4 proud of her at any given time. [01:49:36] Speaker A: I was about to ask, are you, like, do you ever look at her and you're like, oh, you just feel, like, a little disappointed? [01:49:43] Speaker B: No. You know, she really presents white, and. And so does my wife. I mean, a lot of people might not even know she's Mexican looking at her. My daughter doesn't look ethnic at all, so it's like it's not. Even if there was part of me that didn't like that, I feel like it wouldn't be a struggle. [01:50:07] Speaker A: I feel like the Italians make great coffee, though. [01:50:12] Speaker B: Not this one. [01:50:16] Speaker A: I was about to say, are you double disappointed because you're like, you're Italian, a barista, and you still refuse to make me coffee. [01:50:28] Speaker B: Barista is Italian for coffee. And you still can't. [01:50:38] Speaker A: So let me ask you, is your wife thinking about going back to work? When. When she. After the baby's. At a certain age. [01:50:45] Speaker B: Not at this point. Maybe when she gets older. But we want to have another one. It's just not a great time to do so, So. I don't know, dude. [01:50:55] Speaker A: Now's better than ever, dude. [01:50:57] Speaker B: House prices, dude. [01:50:59] Speaker A: House prices and everything else is only going up, dude. You. If you're not prepared now, you're not going to be prepared. Prepared in the future. [01:51:04] Speaker B: That's. That's how I've always felt. But it's mostly moving in with my parents. That's the thing. It's like, if we were struggling but had our own place, that would be different. But yeah, I'm kind of of that mindset. I told her on our walk today. I was like, you know what, we should just pump out two more like rapid fire. Let's get more in. Like right now. They're all. They're all teenagers by the time we're 50. [01:51:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Irish twins wouldn't. [01:51:33] Speaker B: That'd be great. [01:51:34] Speaker A: And honestly, by time they're teenagers, your parents, they already got one foot in the grave. They're going to leave you a house or two. You know what I mean? The house would be paid off, be left to you. [01:51:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, you know, that's. That's something. But, you know, my dad was like, always talking about my grandma dying and, like, talking about getting her money and stuff. It's like, I don't even want to go down the road of, like, thinking about their stuff. There's probably gonna be nothing left. [01:52:07] Speaker A: Probably not. Hey, how's. I don't know where you're at with this. How's your dad with. How's your dad with. With his habits? [01:52:20] Speaker B: I, you know, I'm not aware of anything from the last six, seven years. [01:52:27] Speaker A: Good. Good man. Good. Then you're okay? [01:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah, his contacts were on his route and. Yeah, since he was. [01:52:34] Speaker A: I didn't know if you knew that. I didn't know if you knew that. Good. [01:52:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:52:37] Speaker A: For you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:52:39] Speaker B: I definitely don't know everything, but, you know, there was this I guess I can tell this story. I don't see why not. This is anonymous. [01:52:52] Speaker A: Nobody knows who you are. You took your name. [01:52:54] Speaker B: We were. Right. We were. We were at this restaurant that used to be on my dad's route, and I think this was before he retired. And he knew the waitress, and my mom knew the waitress too. Like, they both knew her just from being around and. [01:53:13] Speaker A: No. No threesomes. [01:53:16] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. So there was this moment where she said something. Something about like, oh, yeah, that one time you were over at my house. And then she. Like, it. It just came up in conversation, and. And, you know, she left the table, and my mom just gave my dad this look, like, oh, over at her house. Really? Huh. And so I clocked that and, oh. For years, just assumed my dad, this chick, and, like, my mom. And to. To sum it up. To sum up my mom's position on this, her dad was a philanderer, and she's just not very sensitive to that. She. [01:53:53] Speaker A: Whoa. [01:53:53] Speaker B: Her. [01:53:54] Speaker A: What the fuck is a philanderer? [01:53:57] Speaker B: He fucked everything that moved. He cheated on her mom. Yeah. He was chief of police. [01:54:02] Speaker A: I'm a philanthropist. [01:54:03] Speaker B: Fucking everything. And her. Her friend's dad was, like, a serial cheater as well, and she referred to him as a bit of a rascal. So, like, she. She just doesn't have strong feelings about. About that kind of thing. So I just always thought, like, he. This chick, and she didn't care. She was a little miffed by it, but, like, whatever. And I was like, well, that was crazy. That was crazy to see that interaction. Well, my mom was here, like, a year ago, maybe two years ago, and she's like, oh, do you know so and so. And I was like, no. And she's like, yeah, she was that waitress at Don Jose's. You met her once. And I was like, oh, yeah, I remember her. Like, yeah, her son died, and her son and her friend both died of a drug overdose from, like, bad coke that she got. And I was like, whoa. Like, I. I didn't know anything about that. And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I. I think she's one of the ones that your dad used to buy coke from, because, like, one time he. She mentioned that he was over at her house one time, and I'm pretty sure he was buying drugs. And I was like, oh, that's what that interaction was about. [01:55:19] Speaker A: I thought he was a little rascal. [01:55:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So I told her. I told her everything. I just told you. I was like, I saw that interaction, and I literally Thought that he cheated on you. And she's like, oh, no, no, no, no. [01:55:33] Speaker A: So dad's not a philanthropist. [01:55:37] Speaker B: Dude. So that friend. That. Her friend's dad, he died. Her. Both of her parents died in 2020. So her mom had some kind of health problems. She had to have a leg amputated. She was in the hospital. She got an infection. [01:55:53] Speaker A: What a mess. [01:55:53] Speaker B: She. It sucked. But they were old. They were like in their 80s. So she died. But a couple days before she died in the hospital, her husband died, and they found him in a hotel. And so I was just asking, like, what the fuck was this guy doing in a hotel? And that's the origin of that phrase was she was saying, like, well, you know, he was a bit of a rascal. He was probably. He was probably with a prostitute, and he had a heart attack while he was with the prostitute, and the prostitute just left him. Similar to BS and that's why he was found. [01:56:35] Speaker A: Yeah, similar to BS Found him in a hotel with a prostitute and his girlfriend. [01:56:43] Speaker B: Was that ever substantiated? Was that substantiated? [01:56:47] Speaker A: I substantiated it. I knocked on the door. There was clearly a female in there. He was in there. [01:56:53] Speaker B: You saw her run out, right? I thought you said you saw her run out the back door or something. [01:56:58] Speaker A: Yes, that's right. Yeah. She went out the side door because we were knocking on the patio door. She ran out the front door. Yeah. [01:57:07] Speaker B: Oh, that's what it was. Was that the nights in there was the nights in. [01:57:12] Speaker A: Good for you, dude. [01:57:13] Speaker B: Hilarious, dude. Okay, so around that time, somehow I assumed that you told t something that happened because m started asking me about it, and he. He knew it was a hotel and he knew the town, so he was asking me, like, what I knew, and I was kind of pleading the fifth, but I was like, just. I'm just curious, like, what this place looked like. So, like, we started looking on Google Maps and there were only two hotels in that town, and it was like a Motel 6 and the nights Inn, and we were reading Google reviews from the Nights inner and it was like, there was blood on my sheets. There was, like, all this, like, crazy reviews. And we were like, he was at the Knights in for sure. So like, was at the night years now. For years now, that has been, like, our colloquialism for, like, a shitty motel, like a drug den or something. [01:58:15] Speaker A: For sure. [01:58:16] Speaker B: He's going to the nights in. [01:58:18] Speaker A: It was the night's end, dude. Found the car, went to the. The office, said I was like, his son looking for my father. They gave me his room. He wouldn't answer the front door, so I went to the sliding glass door. They had sliding glass doors the nights in. And she went out. She went. But they also had gates, so you couldn't get to the door. Like, the hallways were gated off, so you couldn't get to the front door. And so that's why we went to the side, the patio. And then she went out the front. And then, yeah, he came out acting like, what's going on, dude? Like, dude, I was just trying to get away. Like, yeah, that's what every cokehead says, buddy. All right, man. It's been a swell night. I gotta get up in the morning. I love you. This has been pseudonyms with Beast and Raven. It's been a pleasure. [01:59:11] Speaker B: Talk to you guys next week.