015: What Happened to Katy Mixon?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, man. A question for you. You ever just shit inside the road, like, in the open? [00:00:08] Speaker B: I have never shit in anything but a toilet. [00:00:14] Speaker A: Okay, well. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Well, besides my pants when I was, like, young. But that's a given. [00:00:20] Speaker A: It seems to be a common theme, dude. Like, I was. I was riding up to the men's retreat with a couple guys, and sure enough, they a lot on the side of the road. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Now, did they all happen? Did this happen on the trip or were they just talking about it? [00:00:44] Speaker A: We came close, so apparently they. [00:00:48] Speaker B: We had a near miss. [00:00:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they have stomach issues, like they can't do gluten and all this stuff. But they're feeling froggy. Celiac, something like that, Dude. They were feeling froggy, though, and. And decided, you know what? I'm gonna switch up my drink and go with a. A dairy. Coffee. And so they switch up, go dairy. We're on the road. [00:01:14] Speaker B: You know what? While I'm at a confined space, trapped with other strangers. Yeah, I'm gonna try dairy. [00:01:24] Speaker A: They decide all of a sudden, we're like in the diamond lane. And we go straight from diamond lane to the exit. And he's like, squealing around corners, dude. And he's like. He's just, like, bobbing back and forth. He's like, dude, it's gonna come out. Oh, my gosh. You know, like, oh, I'm just gonna pull over the side of the road. I just gotta pull over here. And I'm like, googling like, nearest gas stations. I'm like, dude, right over this bridge. We're good, you know? And he's like, no, he's looking for a porta pot. I'm like, dude, just. Just right up here. He's like, we cross over a bridge. He's like, I'm about to go into the bridge and. And I'm like, dude, we got this, buddy. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Buddy. It feels like you, like, feels like you want to do that, man. [00:02:06] Speaker A: So we get to the other side of. We get. We get to the gas station. They get in and they're talking now they're sharing stories about how they've shit on the side of the roads. And I'm like, I don't think I've ever just done that, dude. Like. And I started to think this is the first time in my. I can't really. I can't really add to this conversation, you know? I mean, I was like, I shit in the woods when I was camping, but I don't know if I've ever, like, shit in the side of the road. [00:02:34] Speaker B: You shit in a bucket in a. [00:02:38] Speaker A: House that didn't have a toilet. [00:02:42] Speaker B: During a ghost hunt. [00:02:44] Speaker A: I'm not gonna lie. I still tell that story to this day. I'm like, yeah, we spent the night grandma died in the house. We just want to spend a night, see if there's any spirits. Watch Reno 9:1:1. And. But there's no toilet. So, you know, we lined it with a. With a six mil garbage bag. And I. It. I was like, ruined the bucket because, like, I put the. [00:03:09] Speaker B: Christ, I'm telling you, I ruined that bucket. [00:03:13] Speaker A: That bucket staying for. Forever. When I went back and we're doing repairs on the house, I found the bucket. Now, mind you, the bag had been out of it. That bucket. You wouldn't. [00:03:22] Speaker B: That's. That's not how I remember it. I remember you leaving the bag in there, tied up for a few too many days, and then when you found it again, it was a problem. [00:03:33] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, I eventually took the bag out because I need the bucket, but then the bucket was rendered useless because it stunk. [00:03:42] Speaker B: Well, do you remember what you did with the bag? [00:03:45] Speaker A: I think I put it in the big. [00:03:48] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. You brought the open bucket to my sleeping bag, and you put it down and then tied the bag up, but you let all the air out. You got it airtight. It stunk like shit all night. [00:04:08] Speaker A: Good times. [00:04:10] Speaker B: And that bitch never even showed up. That damn ghost. [00:04:14] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [00:04:16] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. But you know what? You sat on the bucket and then you screamed out, you go, why didn't I put the trash liner on the toilet? It would be so much more comfortable. [00:04:36] Speaker A: So how you been, man? [00:04:38] Speaker B: I'm all right. I'm. I'm all right. Yeah, not much, I think. Hey, little. Little foretaste for the next couple episodes when we're gonna get a little theological. I think I want to revamp my blog and start getting into theology. Because. Because, well, it's the 16th today, so yesterday was my deadline that we set for the rough draft. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Yep. [00:05:07] Speaker B: Can't. Can't meet it. I. I had a few ideas on how to, like, make the story make more sense, so I have to add a lot. And just between that and editing what was already there, I was just never going to make it. So the story is going to be better, but I'm not gonna make the deadline. So that's kind of a trade off. But I've just really not read my Bible in, like, way too long. Just had, like, a real dry period and this will probably tie into your retreat, but I decided to just not take my computer to work for a couple days and just take my Bible and read on my lunch break instead of writing. And it's been so great. Like I'm in First Kings, so it's not like the most riveting book in the Bible, but I'm just seeing so much cool shit and like, no one at work cares. I'm trying to tell people they're just ignoring me and stuff, but like, just having that 20 minutes on my lunch break has been so awesome. So I'm like, I really want to get back to blogging about theology so that I'm challenging myself to dive in on a topic and like really have a thought out thing, you know. And we're going to be doing a little bit of that on the podcast in the next couple weeks. So I figured I might, I might take some of what we talk about and make a few blog posts about it, you know. [00:06:33] Speaker A: Yes, that's a great, great way to segue, Egon. But the, the men's retreat was awesome. But here's what I like about the Old Testament. The Old Testament is like, all the names have meanings in the New Testament does too, but they're different meanings, you know, like New Testament Paul means the least and in Romans 1 he calls himself the least of the apostles. And so. But you know, in the Old Testament, you know, you have, you have times where like there's kings that run the land and God's like, hey, you gotta get rid of all the idols. And you look at like his father's name who brought the idols in and it's like, you know, something totally crazy where it's like doesn't obey God, you know, but like his name's something, something else. And then the son gets rid of everything but his mother in law. And it's so crazy because you're like, damn, mother in law's like, they've been a problem since 19, you know what I mean? 1992 BC and, and she, you know, she wants to keep the idols and then, you know, but her name translates to oppression. And it's like, oh, that's kind of crazy, you know, I can't wait till you get there. It's, it's a. I remember, I want to say it's in Kings somewhere, but. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Well, I remember doing a little there. Whatever I read today involved the mother being in charge of the idols and he cast out his mom, get rid of the idols. But that wasn't his mother in law. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Might have been mother. Was it like chapter 14 or 15 of some of her. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Literally 15, 16. Yeah, dude. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Look up their names. Look up their names. So honestly, the dad's name. Hold on. The dad's name is something like. I forget what. He goes. He like dies at the hands of physicians or something like that. But his name. I forget what it is, man. But it's. It's. You look up the names and we'll have to talk about it. [00:08:33] Speaker B: It's so coincidental that you just happen to be talking about the same chapters. And specifically the things I was interested in were the names and the idolatry. So I'm just. I'm just gonna go here with you because you couldn't have given me a better segue for that. So I'm gonna try to remember all the names now. Jeroboam is the first king of Israel after the split. So. So he's Israel, not Judah. He's the first king and his son gets sick and he sends the mom to go talk to Ahijah the prophet. His son is named Abijah with a B. So I was like, those are almost the same name. What do these mean? One of them means brother of Yahweh. One of them means Yahweh is my father. Okay, so there's already like parallels to their names. Ahijah the prophet tells her Jeroboam's entire house is going to be killed for his idolatry. Jeroboam creates idols. He creates worship places for the idols and he puts non Levites as priests over these idols. So just huge abominations. His son is named Nadab. He takes the throne after his father, Jeroboam. Nadab is the same son or is the same name as Aaron's son, who was the priest who offered unauthorized fire to the Lord. Crazy. Nadab is overthrown by a guy named Baasha. And Baasha murders Nadab's entire family. The entire house of Jeroboam. They're all killed. All the men. That. That entire family line is gone. Guess who Baisha is? [00:10:22] Speaker A: Who? [00:10:23] Speaker B: Son of Ahija, the prophet who told him that his whole house would be murdered. Is that not nuts? It's crazy. I've never paid that close attention, but I challenged myself this this year to summarize every paragraph with like a sentence or two. So I have to think about what it is and think about it simply enough to summarize it. And it's been. It's been so great for my focus and like, just picking up on things I've never picked up on before. [00:11:01] Speaker A: And honestly, that's why I love the Old Testament because it has those little nuggets in it where you're like, wow, there's a story, like, almost within a story in just the names. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. [00:11:14] Speaker A: So that's awesome, dude. That's awesome, man. I'm excited. That's what I love the Old Testament about, dude. It's so enjoyable to read. And it's the history of, of God's chosen people that if you guys don't know, I'm sure you know Egon. But if you guys don't know, the Jews were God's chosen people because they were the ones chosen to reveal God to the people, like to the world. They were the OG people that were supposed to, you know, give the revelation of God. They, they, they possessed the revelation of God, and unfortunately, they went to Hollywood with it. [00:11:58] Speaker B: Yep, yep. And look at them now. Look at them now, man. I don't, I don't know if you, if you get, you do you get into politics, you, you listen to Candace Owens when she's talking about interesting stuff. [00:12:14] Speaker A: I haven't since the whole Kamala Harris thing. Like, she started getting into like, Justin Bieber and, oh, yeah, Ryan Reynolds wife. And I was just like, you lost? [00:12:27] Speaker B: I'm not tracking any of that stuff. But Dave Smith has been doing some really interesting stuff. He debated a guy on Joe Rogan, and this debate just went totally viral. I'm just seeing it all over my feed. Basically, they were supposed to debate about Israel and Palestine, and the guy just spent the whole time telling Dave, you're a comedian, you're not an expert, so you don't really have, like, any place to talk about this. [00:12:56] Speaker A: He's like, I have an opinion. [00:12:58] Speaker B: Yeah, basically. And then he's like, no, no, no, you can have an opinion all you want. He's like, okay, but I'm not an expert. He's like, yes, we should make room for experts. He's just. He made no sense. So then he, he went on Piers Morgan to talk about that debate, and they brought on a military expert to kind of almost kind of debate Dave about it. And he just kept saying, like, you don't understand, like, the rules of war and engagement and all this stuff. And Dave's just like, I just want you to step out and just admit that war and government and all these words, these are just made up words. If I, as an individual, kill another individual, it's murder. It doesn't matter what anyone calls me. It doesn't matter if someone calls me a military or calls me a king or whatever. And the guy was just like, yeah, but you're just ignoring the, the. The policies and the rules of war. And he's just like, you don't understand. He. He said, it feels like I'm talking to an Aztec priest about child sacrifice. And he's just saying, like, well, you just don't understand what these sacrifices do. So funny. So anyways, if you're looking for a YouTube rabbit hole, that's. That's a good one. But I want to hear about your retreat. [00:14:17] Speaker A: So first of all, I do want to. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Your name is Venkman because I'm Ego. [00:14:22] Speaker A: You figured it out, dude. I'll be Peter venkman For sure. Dr. Peter Bankman. Thank you, Egon. So I did figure out why I was so bothered about my father being here. Part of that was, I gotta get. [00:14:38] Speaker B: An update on that. Tell me everything going on with that. [00:14:42] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. So, you know, he left Thursday. When I got home, he was like, hey, I'm taking off. You know, your. Your sister got me a play a place at a campsite. She sent him boxes and boxes. I mean, like, you would have thought this dude was minecrafting. Like, it came with shovels and axes. And I'm like, what do you. Like, what, like, what's. Is he going to build a. Like, you know, freaking live off the land? Like, what did. Just buy him a sleeping bag in a tent? So he gets to his spot, he starts sending all the kids different pictures. No words, just pictures. So all of a sudden, like, this, this group text of the. Of our siblings start, and they're like, do you guys feel bad? Like, don't you guys feel so bad for dad? And he's out there by himself in the middle of the desert, and I'm like, I have it muted. I'm not even engaging. And I do open it up to see and I, you know, one sister's talking about, nope, don't feel bad at all. Like, this is the life he chose. That's what happens when you do drugs and don't, you know, have savings and. And then the, you know, the older ones kind of like, well, he's sick in his brain. You guys gotta understand it. And. And then they're going back forth and it's like, off and screw you. And so all of a sudden my phone rings and they're like these. And I'm like, you know, I just try and stay out of it. So he ends up, you know, he's there, and he's like, well, I'll be back for my birthday, if that's still cool. I'm like, yeah, whatever. And so he ends up texting me, and he's like, this is like, two days ago. He's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, He goes, what are you doing? I'm bored. Oh, okay. So you're calling upon your little entertainment monkey to come and, you know, I mean, come and. And keep you company or invite you over and let's. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Symbols saying those symbols. [00:16:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So I said, I'm taking re. I'm taking. I'm taking number three. Number three. Yeah. I'm taking Ria. I'm taking her to. To her boyfriend's job work, and we're gonna do a Bible study. And he was like, oh, okay. So that ends that. Then he, you know, time. Time passes. He hits me up today, and he's like, hey, like. Or he hits me up, hits me up yesterday, and he's like, now that. The first one was Tuesday. Now we're on Wednesday. And he hits me up, and he's like, hey, how you. You know, hey, what's going on? And I'm like, not much. He's like, man, peanut butter. I'm. Peanut butter and jelly coming out my ears. And I'm like, oh, you know, cool. And he's like, hey, I was wondering, can I borrow some money? And I'm like, dude, IRS hit me today. Like, they hit me every 15th. They overdrew me. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't have money to loan you. And he's like, okay, well, you know, like, do you. Do you. Do you need me to get you your money back tomorrow? I'm like, no, I get paid tonight at midnight. He's okay. So he shoots me a text. He's like, don't tell. Please don't tell anybody I asked to borrow money. So I'm like, oh, you're putting the game on. So I was like, oh, my bad. Too late. I already. I might have already mentioned something to my sisters. [00:17:50] Speaker B: But did you. [00:17:51] Speaker A: So I get, no. [00:17:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:53] Speaker A: But I did right after that. So. So then. So then I start texting. [00:17:58] Speaker B: You really are. You really are a bastard in the greatest ways possible. [00:18:03] Speaker A: So that guy goes. I go straight to my sister, and I'm like, hey, look, this is what just happened. Dad. Dad's asking to borrow some money. He's probably gonna hit you up. Don't know why he didn't want me tell anybody, but I'm assuming that's why. So then she goes, yeah, he just texted me, asked me, you know, not to relay any information that, you know, that he tried to borrow some money from you. And she's like, are you trying to say that you need money? And I don't know. So he hit me up today. He goes, I canceled my plans. You know, I'm gonna end up going to live back with your sister for a couple months in California. My older sister, the one that you know is like, dad's sick. And I was like, oh, cool. And I was like, well, that was nice of her. And he's like, yeah, she's my angel. All caps on angel. I said, yeah, I get it. I'm mom's angel. And so. So he gives like a thumbs up to that. And so today he hits me up. He goes, you know, he was supposed to go to California and meet some chick on his birthday that he met on Tinder. And I'm like, oh, that's a good way to get your food paid for. And he was like, I got money. I was like, I was just saying, like, you know, I thought you were gonna, like, go on the date and be like, you know, it's my birthday. And so. So then he goes, yeah, you know, I canceled that. You know, I'm hanging out at the bar because he got paid. You wanna. You wanna come have a beer with me? And I'm like, I got my. I got my podcast tonight. This is this afternoon. I'm like, I got my podcast tonight. I'll catch you on the next round. But I realized why I was so bothered why he was here. And I think it was just because, one, he used the geist that he was coming to visit us. One, two, he's not an active father or grandfather. And three, my daughters were so, like, they did not want to be around him because they just don't care for him. And so, like, it was almost like the whole house didn't want this one person here. And that's what bothered me the most because I don't mind him coming over for a little bit. I don't mind going to visit him for a little bit. I don't want you around, around, you know, Like, I'm sorry, but I just don't. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It was just very disruptive to everything. [00:20:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And it wasn't even like, big disruptive in a negative way. It was just like, dude, you're sleeping all day drinking and like, get like, go, go, go. Just go, bro. However, the men's retreat men's retreat was awesome, Egon. It was awesome, man. So it sucked, but it was awesome. I'm in a good spot. God's blessed me with a great career or a great job opportunity, great client. I'm knocking it out. Works going well. I'm walking according, like, in a manner worthy of the gospel, you know? Like, I'm. I'm just meeting. I'm meeting men, and I'm just like. I don't know what it is, but they're just opening up to me, you know? Like, I asked the dude, hey, can I bomb a cigarette? I sit down with him. I'm like, hey, man, like, so you work for such and such? He's like, yeah. I'm like, cool, dude. I was like, are you Arizona native? And we're talking. I'm like, hey, you got family and kids? And all of a sudden, he's telling me about his marital issues, and I'm like, well, you know what, dude? Like, if there's a shot. If there's a shot, keep it. Like, you. You fight for that marriage. You fight for it, you know? Like, you keep going, bro. And we're talking about, like, the effects on the kids. And I'm talking about, like, God did not create families to be divided. He did not create me and my children to see each other every other week. I'm like, that's not what he intended. I was like, so if there's a shot, like, I would urge you to keep, like, trying. And it's. It's. It's like that almost once a week, I'm talking to somebody that's having some marital issues. And now I believe when you have something that can help someone else, whether it's in life or whether it's advice or, you know, material, whatever it is, I believe. And maybe not all material, but if you have enough of it, advice is. I have all of it. You know? I mean, like, I. I have an abundance of it, if you will. We all do, you know, give your opinion on whatever, but, you know, but it also depends on what kind of advice you're giving. And all I can say is like, boom. Step up to the plate, bro. Like, do the hard things. Pray over your wife in the morning. You know, like, do these hard things and fight for your marriage, you know? And so I get up to this. This men's retreat after the whole effect, and they had a golf arrangement that, you know, I don't know what you call it. Golf. Golf time. Tea time. They had a tee time. The guys I was riding up with and they're like, hey, you want to join us? I'm like, no, not really. You know, like, I plan to sit and read Revelation, and, you know, I have to catch up on. On. On, you know, a friendship. And so I called Boston. We talked for about three hours, and great conversation. I. It honestly. It honestly made me, like, one, want to write her, like, right away. Like, I just wanted to write. Sit down and write her. But two, it made me, like. As we were talking, I'm like, man, like, what I would give just to be able to, like, caress your arm right now. Just be able to, like, touch your forearm. Like, I don't know. It was just like, man, like nothing, like, sexual. It was just like, man, I missed who you are as a person, and I miss you, like, every time I tie a tie. There was a morning I woke up. I was staying in our house, and I. And I was getting ready for work. I was putting on a tie, and she came up from behind and, like, you know, finished it off and stuff. And we're looking in the mirror, and it was. It was just one of those movie moments. It was the only. Only woman that's ever done it. And I was just like, wow. Like, I. It's just one of those memories I'll never forget. So we get up to the hill, and I'm seeing guys. I haven't. You know, I see them every Saturday or every other Saturday when I. When I can attend men's group. And we have this speaker, and it was subpar. I'm not gonna lie. It was a subpar speaker. But we break out into table talk, groups of four. We go and talk, and I'm walking with this guy that I went down to Mexico with to do some mission work. And I'm like, hey, man, like, how's everything with the. With the wife? And he's like, oh, you know, it hasn't gotten any better. And he's complaining, complaining. We get in our groups, and he's like, you know. You know, my wife, you know, she just won't let me leave. It's like, she won't even trust me. She doesn't trust me. He's like, she. You know, she wouldn't give me the. The. Like, she wouldn't even give me our account info so that I could, you know, find out how much we have in our bank account. She won't even, like, let me know the amounts we have on our credit cards. And, you know, I'm just saying, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. First of all dude that you could get off your credit card. Like, you look on the back of any card, it's got a number. You call them, you give them your personal information. They give you the information you need. You're like. You're trying to say, like, you can't get. You know. And I'm like, like, sorry, dude. Like, I'm not trying to be a dick, but it just sounds like you're asking for permission to lead when you're called to lead. [00:24:53] Speaker B: He's putting himself in a passive position there. [00:24:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm like, you know, you can. You can always pray over your wife while she's sleeping. You can always pray with her at night. Like, who's gonna refuse that? Like, you know, you get with your wife. And I say, hey, can we just. Can I just pray with us? Can I lead us in prayer? She's not gonna say no. And if she does pray over in the morning or pray over after she goes to sleep, I'm like, it's gonna do a lot. It's gonna. First of all, you're praying over her, so you should expect some change. But on also, your prayer is going to affect your heart. You're going to change as well by doing this. And so we get done with our group, which, I don't know, I thought maybe would be a half hour. No, no, no. Guys are coming, walking out of, you know, groups, and groups of guys are leaving their group because they all did a half hour. We're sitting here still, you know, pussyfooting around how women are, you know, in society, masculine guys are okay to be feminine. And I was like, this is stupid, dude. So I kind of set with that for the night. Next day, we kind of have another service. You know how men's retreats go. Two services a day. One, you know, one at night, one in the morning or whatever. So next morning, we have one, and I. We get back in our same groups, and I'm like. I'm quiet. And they're like, you know, what are your thoughts? They're like, peter Venkman, what are your thoughts? And I'm like. I'm like, first of all, it's doctor. Secondly. Secondly, I don't know if you guys want to hear my thoughts. And they're like, why? I was like, because, honestly, I was like, there's dudes here I avoid because they're still stuck and they're not trying to do anything about it. I was like, they're stuck. And it seems like they just want to show up to murmur and Have a bitch sesh. They just want to sit and complain about how life isn't doing, doing them right. I said, here's the thing, man, if we were fighting against obesity and you know, we're, we're in a fight against obesity group, you know, let's get healthy. Now, mind you, we're looking to be spiritually healthy, but let's just look at it physically healthy. And we come back every week and you guys are like, hey, so how many times you go to the gym? Oh, man, I couldn't get to the gym, man. You know, I just, I just couldn't get there. All right, well, you know, like, did you do any intermittent fasting or, you know, maybe did you cut some calories somewhere? Nah, man, you know, I just, I just, you know, I didn't really want to go to the grocery store and get a whole new list of stuff, so I just kind of ate, you know, I didn't really change my diet. It's like, so you're not really fighting against obesity? Like, what do you want? You expecting osmosis? Like you, you just hear it and kind of sit with it and it's going to change you. I was like, that's what this is like, dude. You guys just come and bitch about where life's at. And I did re, I did repent, I did apologize. I said, you know, you guys could have been anywhere this weekend, but you chose to be here, you know, and, and one of the guys was like, well, some of us are here to get away from our wife, you know, like, we're not really here for spiritual growth. We're just here for a fucking vacation. [00:27:53] Speaker B: And yet that's all you want to talk about. That thing you're trying to get away. [00:27:57] Speaker A: From, it just bothered me. So it was cool. I, you know, I spent a lot of time praying over these guys in my spare time. And for a while now I've been wanting to start a Bible study inside my apartment complex with, with guys inside my apartment complex. And so I was like, you know what? I'm doing it, doing it. Put the word out. Would you guys want to meet this Tuesday, which was yesterday, six o' clock, we'll do bi weekly. We're gonna start in Romans and, and we did that. And I sat down with the guys yesterday. They were guy my age, from the men's retreat. There was a 17 year old, 25 year old, like a 20 year old, just about six guys and you know, different ages and stuff. And I was like, I just want to start off by like saying like, everything that's shared here stays here. And this group is meant to encourage, teach, challenge, you know, rebuke if nexus is necessary. Correct. I was like, but if you're going to go tell people what happens in this group, don't come back. If you're not going to challenge yourself to be a better man, this ain't your group. I'm just letting you know right now, if you're just coming here to, to get away from the, the old girlfriend or whatever, this ain't your group. This is a group for men who want to better themselves as men. And in this group, men of God. And that's where we're at. So if you guys are in, let's rock and roll. And this isn't my group, this is our group. If one of you wants to lead like a study on Romans 2, let me know. I'll work with you. I'll let you borrow my, my, my Bible laptop, you know, it has all my, my logos and stuff. You guys can, can, you know, I'll show you how to use it, create your study, you know, and, and we have two weeks. So you could throw it out, you could throw it, you know, against other guys in this group and see how, you know, how it sounds or whatnot. I was like, but this is not a, a me group. This is an us life group. Like we are going to be doing life together. And so it was really, really, really cool, dude. And I'm just thankful, dude. I'm in a really good spot. I'm, I'm walking in a manner worthy of the gospel at work. You know, I'm not, I'm not partaking in coarse jesting. I'm not, you know, talking perverted jokes and stuff. I'm like, you know, I'm praying over dudes. I'm calling dudes on my break, praying over them. My co worker came to the group. He's a 23 year old kid that, you know, we hired to kind of teach him and train him. And you know, we were talking about, you know, just Bible stuff today in the trailer, you know, and we clearly have someone that's not a believer in our trailer. And so it was just really cool, dude. And you know, my, the group is based on a desire for men to be men, you know, as a man. And, and I, I really wish you were local, bro. Really wish you were local. Like, I love what we have, but I have a desire for men to be men, lead their families, do the hard things, like just do, do the Hard things you could choose. Everything's hard. Divorce is hard. Marriage is hard. Choose your heart, you know, choose which one you want to pick. And so, you know, I want people, I want the men to take back their families. I want them to cover them in prayer. Like I want, I want men to start stepping up and saying, hey, I have a role to, to spiritually guide for my family and provide for them. And so I think so many men let their wives lead. And I don't know if it's maybe because their wife makes more. I know a couple men that I have in my circle, their wives make more. And so they're kind of like, well, you know, you know, it's like, nah, dude, no, there's no excuse for that. And some men just don't want confrontation. So they just jump in the back seat and let their wife drive. And it's like, no, there's gonna be confident. It doesn't have to be negative confrontation. But if you are both in agreement all the time, one of you is unnecessary, you know, so. And so, for instance, I have a buddy, I have a buddy who I met at the last, the week before the last men's retreat, going through a divorce, struggling, just struggling. And I was like, hey, dude, you're gonna make it through it. We got this. Like, I'm here with you. There were some hard nights. I went to go spend the night at his house, you know, and he would be like, hey, drive me by her house. I gotta, you know, I want to see if anybody's there. I'm like, ah, you shouldn't be doing this. You know, had some suicidal thoughts. He was trying to over text her, reach out to her to the point where she's like, dude, I'm gonna get a restraining order now. He's like, hey, like, God's got me in a good spot, you know, him and his wife could go to the kids events together separately, of course, but they can be co parents and it's not weird. She's not like trying to like tell him to like, give her some space. He's in a real healthy spot. That's what's supposed to happen. These other men, I'm like, dude, what are you guys doing though? So I don't know, man. I just know that right doctrine without right devotion or right discipline, it's a pitfall, you know, you can have right doctrine all day. I had right doctrine for, for fucking last 21. Well, I've been saved 19. Last 19 years, I've had right doctrine, but my devotions was horrible. You know, I had infidelities left and right. I, you know, would course jest. I mean, I worshiped the knowledge of Christ more than I worshiped Christ. And so I'm just to a point where I don't want to play church, man. I don't want to play church. And with that, welcome to Pseudonyms. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Yeah, man, that was our longest cold open yet. [00:33:44] Speaker A: Yeah. But I do plan to get into Revelation. I. I've started reading it over and over, and I haven't really got past chapter two. I'm not gonna lie. [00:33:53] Speaker B: Okay. For sure. [00:33:55] Speaker A: But yeah, I. It is something on my list. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I know we're not. We're not getting into it this week, but just some preliminary thoughts. I. I haven't. I don't think I've really read through much. Oh. Although one. One guy today at work was arguing with me about the two witnesses, so I did bust that out and we read through it, but I've been going back over my notes and stuff, just trying to get like an overview before I start diving in more. So I've. I've kind of been looking at like the 30,000 foot view a little bit today and yesterday, and I think it's gonna be fun. I think I. I think we're gonna. We're gonna disagree a lot. [00:34:47] Speaker A: Wow. Okay. I'm afraid, I'm afraid because Revelation is one of the hardest books for me to understand. It's almost like a Daniel, where you're like, whoa, like, how do we interpret this? And I think I'm just kind of psyching myself out and I just need to jump into it and read it, you know, Like, I encourage myself by, by saying, like, well, if Egon could read this, I could read this. [00:35:09] Speaker B: That's 100% true, dude. Well, when I agreed. When I agreed to, to cover it on the podcast, I literally don't think I've read it in over a year. So when I agreed to that, I was like, oh, yeah, I did like a three month long study. I've got all my notes in my Bible. Like, it'll come back to me like that, no problem. And then today I was thinking about like, okay, let me start getting my thoughts together. And I'm like, okay, I know, like this beat. That beat. And I just started going like, gosh, man. Like, I don't remember this. I. I don't remember what that is. I don't remember what this is. So I'm like, I'm googling all the questions I have and then like, Everything's like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, I remember that. But it's just like, dude, it just slips away so easily. It is. It is not an easy book. No matter what interpretation you hold, It's. It's not an easy book. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Well, that's why there's so many interpretations, because it's not easy. [00:36:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:03] Speaker A: So. Yeah. Yeah. So I am excited about it. I really am. It just seems. I don't know, every time I sit down to start reading it, I'm just. I get to like chapter two because I want to. I want to read it as a whole. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:18] Speaker A: You know, I want to just kind of sit down, take it all in as a whole and move forward with it and. And start breaking it down. But, you know, everybody's like, well, listen to this. Listen to this. Teaching on it. Listen to this. No, no, no, I don't want that yet. I don't want that. I want to be able to form my own. Form my own opinion real quick first, and then. And then go from there. So. But I do plan to get to it. We got a new listener. She's Jon Sean, episode eight or nine now. [00:36:46] Speaker B: All right. It's starting to get good around episode nine, I think. Episode nine. [00:36:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Was my favorite. [00:36:52] Speaker A: I don't know. What episode is that? The one where I was, like, working late, like, got up early, and I'm drunk at the same time. [00:36:59] Speaker B: No, that's episode 12, and it may not be an episode. We. I haven't. I haven't edited it yet, and I'm not sure we're gonna put it out. [00:37:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm okay with skipping that one, too, because I honestly don't remember that night at all. I remember, like, seeing your face and the confusion on your face, and you're like, where are you going with this? And I'm like, yeah, I'm a no man. I don't even know, you know? [00:37:28] Speaker B: I mean, that aspect of it was pretty funny. But all the important stuff. [00:37:33] Speaker A: Maybe in the future it'll be a lost episode. [00:37:34] Speaker B: Oh, that would be. That would be great. Yeah. That'll be our Christmas episode. All of the important things on the subject matter that we wanted to get to that night. We covered the next week, so it's not going to be a huge gap in the episodes if we leave that one out. But. Yeah. So. So. So far, I'll give you. Well, you know what? Yeah. You don't really want any input going into your study, so I won't. I won't put my. My. My biases on you I was. I was gonna give you a little overview, but I think it'd be better if we don't. [00:38:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I kind of want to. I kind of want to, you know, sit it down. Sit down and read it as a whole letter all by itself. Just kind of dive into it, and I just need to do it, and maybe I need to switch up my. My Bible for this one. You know, the NASB kind of goes like, each verse is its own. It's on paragraph form. You know what I mean? So each verse is. It just kind of seems like. I don't know, the flow of it. I don't know. But we're definitely gonna get into it. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Do you still have that little pocket esv? [00:38:57] Speaker A: That's what I read out of every day. [00:38:59] Speaker B: That's. That's the one to note on. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Not the esv. It's the nasb, the one Rock gave me. [00:39:05] Speaker B: No, I think you bought it while you were in school of ministry. I think I have the same one, but I'm pretty sure it was an esp. [00:39:11] Speaker A: But that's not small. It's a. Yeah, it's a ESV Big. It's the same exact size and everything. Yeah, but I also. [00:39:18] Speaker B: Not my journal. Not my journal Bible. It's a. It's a little pocket one. [00:39:24] Speaker A: No, I bought that one, and I think I ended up giving it to a neighbor who didn't have a Bible. And I was like, well, here, take this one. And I kind of regret it because I don't think he. He actually, like, used it, but he just didn't seem like he used it. Anyhow, I. I read all the one Rock gave me. That's in asb. [00:39:47] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. The. Yeah, actually, like, text arrangement is important. I. I had a verse by verse. Like, every verse is its own paragraph one. And I didn't realize, like, how disjointed that felt until I started reading, like, paragraph. So. Yeah. And if you ever use blb, there's a paragraph function you can. You can look at instead of the verse by verse. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's. That's exactly what is throwing me off right now is that, like, each verse has its own little paragraph, if you will, and it's. It kind of just breaks the flow. Like, honestly, like, it just. And so that's. That's the only reason why I kind of want to switch up back to. Not so much switch up back to esv, but I am thinking of going to ESV just for this study aspect of it. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Yeah. You ever get into this And I didn't realize. [00:40:56] Speaker A: No, dude, what am I. [00:41:00] Speaker B: Okay. [00:41:04] Speaker A: Are you. Are you reading out of this? What is the csb? [00:41:06] Speaker B: No, no, I wouldn't. What am I sucking Chode? I would never. No, CSB is awesome. It used to be the hcsb, and then they. Oh, the Holman Hole. [00:41:24] Speaker A: Holman. Yeah. [00:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So they updated it to CSB and reads better than any other Bible. I read. Like, I like how it's worded better than ESV or NASB or any of those. It. [00:41:43] Speaker A: Yeah, but I want more. I want closest to original manuscript as you get. [00:41:48] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. So, like, that's. That's where, like, NASB and ESV definitely win CSBs, like, right next to ESV. So it's definitely not as close to word for word as you're gonna get, but it's kind of like the niv, where, like, it's a really good read. [00:42:06] Speaker A: You know, much respect for William Mounts, but not the best Greek transcriber, if you will. I simply go for. I'm looking for. I'm looking for closest, because when you get the. I also want to touch on something else you brought up earlier. The NASB is. When it gives a command, it's. It's. It's closer to. To the specific. Specificity. [00:42:39] Speaker B: Specificity. [00:42:40] Speaker A: It's more spec. Yeah, it's more specific than divisive versus. Like, the. Versus where, like, the ESV is more general or more. Not more general, but, like, a little less specific, a little less direct. And that's kind of why I stick to the nasb. [00:43:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't read CSB exclusively. I like to read, like, a couple different ones if I'm gonna go over something multiple times. But one. One example. [00:43:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I do have a parallel. [00:43:18] Speaker B: Parallel what? [00:43:19] Speaker A: Bible. Parallel Bible where it has. [00:43:21] Speaker B: Oh, with the Greek on one side. [00:43:24] Speaker A: No, it's like NASB NIV message. Cool. Yeah. [00:43:29] Speaker B: Oh, that's cool. One. One cool example from CSB is John 3:16. So, like, almost every Bible words it the same way. And it's mostly for tradition, for God so loved the world. So a lot of people will take that verse and they'll be like, so this means that God loved you so much. And they'll stretch their hands out like that so much that he sent his son, his only begotten son, CSB says, and God loved the world in this way that he sent his only begotten son to. So there's some. There's some verses where CSB nails it in a way that, like, no other Bible translation Nails it. And like, some of what. It's Revelation 1. I can't remember the exact wording, but CSB words it as, these are the things signified to the apostle John. Whereas, like, other Bibles will say another word. That kind of makes it. I don't know. I can't. That was a bad example. [00:44:40] Speaker A: Yeah, so I was looking at that. That on. On Friday, because John was in a trance, and so I started. I. You know, on Logos, you just go over trance, and it kind of gives you all the other spots where trances were, you know, or where people were in trances. Transes. Yeah, trances. Anyhow, it was crazy because at the men's retreat, we do this. They do this thing. It's like a tradition where they put, like, a chair up front, they put a crown of thorns on it, a sash, and they're like, hey, like, if you want to take, like, you know, you want to take this moment and kind of kneel before this chair or go up to the chair and just kind of, you know, imagine Jesus is sitting there, and you could just say whatever you want. Well, I was in a good spot. And we have this guy that's in our group that he's a former MLB umpire, and so he still does, like, Bible studies with professional baseball players. He still, like, in his circle, if you will, is David Goggins. I don't know if you know who that is. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:49] Speaker A: And. And so he. He gives communion every year. His mom bakes the bread according to the. The. To, like, the. To the Jewish tradition. She prays over the. The dough, and. And so he brings it up and we do communion. And he. He was. He kind of sits behind the. The chair about 10, 15ft, but he'll put his hand out and kind of just pray over many. It was usually, you know, I look to see if they have a wedding ring or whatnot. And I just pray over their families. Like, very rarely does God give me a word for a man. He' me a word for you. And I was like, really? I've never really talked to this dude before, so it's like the first time I'm like, really? And he goes, yeah, he goes. The word he gave me was a teacher. And he led me in prayer over you. And he was like, you're going to be a teacher of His Word. And I was like, dude, that's encouraging. Like, that was awesome. So it ended up being. I was. I'm. You know, again, I'm really thankful for the position I'm in where I'm at. I know attacks are coming. Attacks have been coming the last couple days. I'm okay with it because I know there are attacks, you know, like distractions, attacks, whatever you want. So, yeah, it's, it's, it's been blessed. But I wanted to circle back around. Who do you think the two witnesses are? [00:47:02] Speaker B: The church. [00:47:06] Speaker A: Do you think the two witnesses. [00:47:08] Speaker B: This is exactly how I felt at work today. First of all, this umpire was not Angel Hernandez, was he? You don't have to lie. [00:47:22] Speaker A: No, no, it wasn't. No. His name's Ted. His real name is Ted. I, I. If you want his last name, I'll give it to you off. [00:47:29] Speaker B: Sure. Just notoriously terrible umpire that retired last year. Anyways, I got a thing against him if it was him, but. Yeah, yeah, man. So again, I don't want to put too much on you before you get a chance to read it, but chapter seven, chapter six, I can't remember. Oh, no, it's like 11. The, the witnesses come in in like chapter 11, and it describes them as two lampstands. Well, you've already. [00:48:01] Speaker A: The lampstands are the church. [00:48:03] Speaker B: You've already heard about lampstands. And so I had not read this passage in, like, again, over a year, and, and my buddy at work challenged me on it. I was like, well, let's read it. And then I started reading through it, and every single thing it said about them was like, well, that's another thing. That sounds like the church. There's another thing. And like, he, he was of the opinion that it was Elijah and John the Baptist or no, no, no. Elijah and. [00:48:32] Speaker A: Who'S Moses? [00:48:33] Speaker B: No, who's the other guy who ascends without dying. I think that's in Genesis. Enoch. Enoch. So, yeah, a big, A popular interpretation is that these are the two guys who never died but were lifted up to heaven. But, yeah, that's kind of some of the fun stuff we can get into when we, I mean, we might take 10 episodes on it. I don't know, man. We'll do whatever we want. [00:49:09] Speaker A: Okay. So I do, I did so on an adon on a job interview. I was meeting with someone and he, he was, he was like, hey, I saw that on your, on your, your resume. You put that you, you went to Bible school of ministry. And I'm like, yeah. You know, and he was like, I think that's so intriguing. And so we started talking, and I'm like, okay. And he was like. And honestly, like, I felt horrible because the guy was like, really feel horrible because it's been. It was at that moment. It was so long since I. Like, you know how like when for a moment you don't really. You're not in the word for a while or whatnot. And people start bringing up stuff and you're like, oh, I know this answer. But like, you throw out something that is. And you. And then you end up realizing you don't know the answer. And he's like, no, it's this. And you're like, oh, yeah, I should have known that. Like, how do I. How do I. How did I miss that? Well, he is. He was saying that he thinks the two witnesses are Gabriel and Michael. [00:50:18] Speaker B: Okay, that's interesting. [00:50:21] Speaker A: And he sent me a whole document laying out his study on why he thinks it's Gabriel and Michael. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Do they ever refer to the witnesses as messengers? Because that is synonymous with angels. [00:50:42] Speaker A: I'd have to look and see what he. What. What kind of what he was. What route he was taking. But I believe the. What is it? In the beginning of. Of Revelation, there is a. It talks about the lampstands and it talks about. What was it the seven stars is the stars. What is it now? [00:51:00] Speaker B: Seven spirits. [00:51:04] Speaker A: And the spirits are angels, right? [00:51:06] Speaker B: I think that's the Holy Spirit. [00:51:09] Speaker A: No, man, open up your Bible. You know what? I brought my. [00:51:13] Speaker B: I got it. [00:51:13] Speaker A: I got it down. [00:51:14] Speaker B: I'm pulling it up. [00:51:16] Speaker A: It's chapter what one where he. Chapter one or two where he goes over like. And the lampstands are the churches and these are the. But I don't know what these are. I keep. I'm. I'm losing it right now. [00:51:31] Speaker B: Pulling it up. Is it before he gets into the individual churches? [00:51:38] Speaker A: It's right before there. When he, when he explains what. What it is. I'm going there, bro. [00:51:49] Speaker B: I got it. Turned to see the voice speaking to me. Oh, seven golden lampstands. In the midst of the golden lampstands was one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and a golden sash, hairs of white. Two edged sword. Seven stars are the angels of the seven churches. And the seven stands. [00:52:20] Speaker A: Okay, now who's the idiot? So. [00:52:27] Speaker B: All right, that was aggressive. [00:52:32] Speaker A: God bless you, brother. [00:52:35] Speaker B: So your heart. [00:52:37] Speaker A: So I guess if they're like lampstands, man. It can't be. It can't be because if the. They would have to be stars. [00:52:45] Speaker B: For. [00:52:45] Speaker A: Them to be angels. He would. He. They would have to be referred to as stars, I guess. No. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Well, let me pull up 11 and see what that says. [00:53:02] Speaker A: 2. [00:53:03] Speaker B: I grant authority to my two witnesses and they will prophesy clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees and two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the Earth. If anyone would harm them, fire pours out. Yeah, this just kind of talks about what they do. Yeah, no, that just kind of gets into, like, what they do. Not so much what they are. The only, like, attributes it gives are olive trees and two lampstands. [00:53:39] Speaker A: All right, well, I'm gonna be looking that up, so. Yeah, it's gonna be a good study. It's gonna be a good study. I'm not afraid of it anymore. I just have realized looking at my, my, you know, on logos, I have everything, you know, I've. I don't know, like, my, my layout is, you know, six versions all next to each other, or five, I guess, nasb, esb, kjv, nkjv, and niv. And then my bottom is nothing. Yeah, right. And then the bottom is information. Information commentaries. And then I do use Holman's Bible Handbook, though. [00:54:23] Speaker B: Nice. [00:54:23] Speaker A: So it's, it's, it's kind of like it. So it's all laid out. So I'm gonna definitely look into this. But I'm seeing that, yes, niv, ESV is easier on the eyes when it comes to reading. So, yeah, I think that's the route I'm going to take just to kind of get a night. Get a, get a, get a reading in on it. And then I'll start diving in deeper into. Into it. And I might even, you know, I might even Phil. You know, Phil and Froggy jump around and do the, the amplified. Yeah, and make it like a. Make it like to turn an hour reading into a five hour reading, you know. That's always fun. [00:55:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the amplified. Yeah, it's always, it's just, it's rare. I don't do as many, like, deep dives as I do just reading straight through the way I'm doing now. But when I do. The last one I did was Hebrews, I think, and I just wanted to read it 30 times and then just like, write down my questions as I went and then kind of look for answers to those questions and just keep reading it. Keep reading it. So I tried to do as many different translations as I could. I think. I think I hit, like, most of the good ones. I'd want to hit like, NKJV and niv, nasb. All those guys. Yeah, man. [00:55:47] Speaker A: So, so, so we got a new listener. I was kind of excited about it, and she, she burned through, like, our whole stuff in like, two Days. But it's number one. [00:55:59] Speaker B: I was wondering if it was number one. [00:56:03] Speaker A: It was. So we were talking the other day and she, she was. I said, yeah, something, something. I got my podcast. So you got a podcast. How come you didn't tell me? And I was like, oh, like, you know, the idea of is to not really tell anybody but men, you know, like, or people, you know, that might benefit from it, you know. And I had to think back, like, did I say anything negative about her mom? You know what I mean? Like, before I shared this, I don't. [00:56:30] Speaker B: Think I had you talked about moving out with her. I don't think you ever got into like what didn't work out or anything. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Yeah, we were just, you know, we just weren't compatible. Yeah, that's about it. So, yeah, man, that's, that's where that's at. Egon, I wish we had a better topic tonight, but I did enjoy discussing the, the men's retreat. I think, you know, I think it's becoming. And nothing against the leadership, but there's not going to be a curriculum or a program that can change these men. Like, it has to be 1. A move of God. 2. Okay, let me ask you this. Do you believe our relationship with God is synergetic? After salvation, after, after justification. Do you think the sanctification process is synergetic? While you think about that, for those who. Of you who don't know salvation is when you place your faith in Christ, you're justified. And the easiest way to remember that is justified. Never sinned. That always reminds me of. [00:57:52] Speaker B: That. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Always reminds me of tea. And then the second part of your salvation is sanctification. That's the transition between. That's the point. After justification, it's the current state that you live in every day until you die. Where we fulfill the third part of salvation, which would be glorification. You are no longer in the presence of sin and you're in the presence of, of God. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Here is. Give me one second. Here's what I'm thinking about. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Damn, dude. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:58:39] Speaker A: You type like you're a fat chick. [00:58:42] Speaker B: One handed. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Just really loud. [00:58:47] Speaker B: Sorry. I do have a pretty heavy hand. I also have a mechanical keyboard at work with red switches on it. And it annoys people, but I like it. [00:58:59] Speaker A: What is that? What is a mechanical keyboard? [00:59:02] Speaker B: It's like clicky. Like it's really. It's got like raised, raised keys with like special switches that make noise and they, they like have a very satisfying like click when you. It's like Jurassic park like Samuel. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Are you an a. Are you an ASMR guy? [00:59:19] Speaker B: No, no. [00:59:21] Speaker A: I think that, like, I don't know if it's just the generation, but like, my 8 year old is like, every time we do something, like I was taking like a sticker off and she's like, oh, that's very satisfying. And I'm like, what's so satisfying about. Then she's like, it's just something satisfying about it. And I'm like, you must. She listens to like, asm. I. Well, normally I, you know, most things I do, I nail, you know, I'm just, I'm gifted in that way. [00:59:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:50] Speaker A: All right. So what were you thinking? [00:59:51] Speaker B: Well, I read a book by. What's his name? What's his name? He's got glasses, he's got nine kids. Kevin. His first name's Kevin. The book was called the Hole in Our Holiness. And his whole deal was that salvation and sanctification were monergistic. Kevin D. Young. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Wait, what? What? They were what? [01:00:26] Speaker B: Monergistic. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Monergistic, yeah. So, okay, so what is that? [01:00:31] Speaker B: That's what instead of synergistic? It's one. One direction, just God, one way. Yeah. [01:00:37] Speaker A: Okay. [01:00:38] Speaker B: And that holiness is like personal holiness is kind of like our part and participation in that process. And then sanctification is something he's doing. But I don't know, I feel like that's not sanctification. [01:00:55] Speaker A: Kind of the same as pursuing pursuant of holiness. [01:00:58] Speaker B: That's. Well, I don't know. I think in his view it was not that holiness is something that we strive for in action and sanctification is what God is doing in our soul as like, he's the one perfecting us. Like, that is almost what sanctification means, is kind of perfecting and purifying. [01:01:26] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, so how do you take. I mean, like, we do have a lot of. You have a brain, you have a mind that the Lord gave you. You also have like, commands and teachings and instructions that he's given us. I feel like those things are what we can control at this point. Yeah, we don't control whether we're saved or not. Like, it's not us drowning and he puts his hand in the water and pulls us out. It's us dead at the bottom of the. The pool, the ocean, however you want to see it. He's reached down and pulled us out. [01:02:03] Speaker B: See it however you want. Like the ocean. [01:02:07] Speaker A: You like that? That was good that you picked up on that. No, I wasn't even playing. Like that. So he picks. He. He reaches down and picks up a dead body and brings life to it. Now, at that point, we can utilize the mind that we. We utilized prior to reject him and pervert his word and turn, you know, and not believe, you know, now we can use that to say, okay, wow. We see your teachings. You're telling us to seek. You're telling us to knock. You're telling us to go. You're telling us to protect our thoughts. You're telling us to turn our minds towards you. That, to me, is an action that. That through. Yeah, that I'm doing. I'm not denying anything about the Holy Spirit being within us. But at the same time, I feel like when you're actively in sin and you know these truths, you've quenched the Holy Spirit's kind of. You're not as sensitive to its leading. And so as you start to press into God, that's where I kind of see for me, at least, where I'm more sensitive to the spirits leading in, where I'm going. But I don't know. I think it's energetic man. [01:03:27] Speaker B: It's just where I'm falling. That's kind of why I thought. Why I said Kevin DeYoung's things seemed kind of semantic was because, like, what is the practical difference between striving for holiness and engaging in sanctification? I'm not really sure, like, there would be any practical difference between those things. And, like, I'm probably. I'm just, like, immediately overthinking our side of that. But it is synergistic. Like, if it is synergistic, it means we're both doing something. So God is enabling us to choose him and to strive for holiness. [01:04:05] Speaker A: But you still have. [01:04:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:06] Speaker A: So, like, you still have to do the things that he's enabling you to do. [01:04:09] Speaker B: So when I first hear synergistic, that's all I'm thinking. All I'm thinking is that I'm doing things and I'm purifying myself and I'm sanctifying myself. But that goes completely against the word synergistic in general. But then if he is doing all the work and enabling me to walk in it, how synergistic is that really? Like, I don't know. You know, that's. I'm kind of not sure. [01:04:36] Speaker A: I think both your things were monogistic, man, in the sense of, like, if you're doing it, your own sanctification, monogestic. If. Yes, he's doing it monogestic. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think I, I, I'm just on the thought of. I'm on the thought that it is synergistic. There's a relationship there. [01:05:02] Speaker B: Yes. [01:05:02] Speaker A: You know, he's clearly given us instruction that we do. And yes, there is time, there's enabling by the Holy Spirit, but, you know, there are times where, and I don't want to say you have to white knuckle it at times, but, yeah, there's. There's conscious decision. I'm not going to watch pornography today. There's a conscious decision. Like, today was weird, man. I woke up with a. Now that I got number one listening, I woke up with a chub. [01:05:32] Speaker B: You know, I am wildly uncomfortable now that I know she's listening. [01:05:38] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. I started thinking about all the females I referred to. I'm like, holy crap. [01:05:45] Speaker B: The fourth episode is called Too Big for Anal. What the happened? How is she listening to this podcast? [01:05:55] Speaker A: She's sending me quotes throughout the day that we, that we're saying. So, you know, like, I woke up with a chubb, and I'm like, you know, like, well, you just got it. You know, you got to drop a beat. You know, you got to rub it out to get rid of this so you could, you know, stuff it in your pants. And I made the conscious decision not to do it. Yeah, it was just, no, there's two shall pass, you know, like, it's. I'm gonna forget about it by time I get to the truck, you know, and it's gonna, you know, work its way out. [01:06:27] Speaker B: The first time I heard that phrase. I hope this is funny. The first time I heard that phrase was. [01:06:37] Speaker A: What phrase? [01:06:37] Speaker B: This too shall pass was right after. Right after my younger cousin passed away. My girlfriend. My girlfriend's dad said that to me, and he was a great man. I don't have a single bad thing to say about that guy. His daughter's a mess. But whatever, that's his problem. I won't, you know, I, I have no ill will toward, Toward that guy at all. [01:07:01] Speaker A: Is this Bigfoot's dad? [01:07:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You met. You met him, I think. [01:07:05] Speaker A: But yeah, I still have his number. [01:07:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Great guy. [01:07:08] Speaker A: But I was thinking maybe that's how I get her number. I'm not gonna lie. That thought passed. That thought crossed my mind was like, shoot, I actually have her dad's number. Like, I could reach out to Bigfoot and, like, totally, like, see if she wants to come to Arizona. [01:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah. My mom told me that she had A baby recently, so I bet her self esteem and her body image is dirt low. Now is the time to capitalize. You can absolutely. If you neg her a little bit, Bam. If you. If you tell her, you know, like, oh, man, I didn't expect you to be looking like this fit, you know, I expected you to be like twice as fat after something. I bet. [01:07:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I bet I could, dude. [01:07:51] Speaker B: But anyways, he. He said that to me, and I just never in a million years thought that you could also use that phrase for boners. [01:08:08] Speaker A: Have you? Hey, have you ever seen Growing Pains? [01:08:11] Speaker B: The show Growing Pain? Yeah. Show me that smile. Smile. [01:08:20] Speaker A: Did you ever think. I believe they had a. It wasn't his best friend Boner. [01:08:26] Speaker B: His name was Boner. [01:08:27] Speaker A: Name Boner. [01:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah, Boner used to mean, like a mistake. Like, clumsy. Like, no. Yeah, like. Oh, yeah, that was a. That was a real boner. When I dropped that cup of coffee on the ground, you know. [01:08:44] Speaker A: So they. They kind of went biblical on it where they were using names to. To mean, wow. [01:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's one takeaway. [01:09:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I put that on for you, bro. [01:09:14] Speaker B: As long as we got each other. [01:09:19] Speaker A: As long as we got each other, we got the world sitting right in our hands, baby. [01:09:29] Speaker B: You and me, we got to be. [01:09:34] Speaker A: Hey, do you remember out of this World? [01:09:40] Speaker B: No. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Did you watch out of this World? [01:09:41] Speaker B: I don't think so. [01:09:43] Speaker A: Really? Like, I want to say it was like she was a. Like an alien daughter. Yeah, she had to be an alien daughter. [01:09:57] Speaker B: God, what channel was. [01:09:58] Speaker A: I remember her name, but. Are you kidding me? [01:10:03] Speaker B: No, that's how we used to watch tv. I'm sorry. [01:10:07] Speaker A: You know, it used to. [01:10:08] Speaker B: It used to be like TGIF and. And all that stuff. [01:10:14] Speaker A: Dude. No, this was before, like, TGIs. Like, this is. This is before. [01:10:22] Speaker B: What the did. No, it's a. It's a banger, but I don't. I don't recall that show. [01:10:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it was about a little girl that was from outer space, lived with this family and could, like, freeze time. She'd go like. She touch her index fingers together and like, stop time, and everybody would just freeze and then she'd kind of do her and then clap or some and everybody came back to. To like, time. No, you. [01:11:00] Speaker B: You do describe things. Like Kenny Powers would describe claps her hands or some. I don't know. [01:11:14] Speaker A: Guinea Powers is one of my. That show, man, like when he was like, hey, man, what I tell you about wearing my. My thongs? And he's like, you told me not to go in your drawer. And get your thongs. And he's like. He's like, I want you wear them. He's like, I go in your dirty laundry. Joke's on you, Kenny. You know, it's like, gosh, dude, I. [01:11:38] Speaker B: Hope we get in a car accident. I really do. [01:11:44] Speaker A: He said, no, I play baseball. I play real sports. I just don't see who the best is at jogging and shit or running and swimming or whatever it was. When the dude's talking about being a triathlete, who the best exercising guy is. [01:12:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's so great. My mom. My mom only knows Fat Katie Mixon. She did some sitcom. I don't know if it's still on, but there was some sitcom where she was just, like, a mom, and she's, like, twice the size. She was on Eastbound and Down. [01:12:20] Speaker A: And who's that, though, on Eastbound? Is that the girlfriend he makes? [01:12:23] Speaker B: Girl? Yeah. [01:12:26] Speaker A: Yeah, she was on some. Some. So that's crazy, because Big country would always be like, she is so pretty for a big girl. [01:12:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:34] Speaker A: And I'm like, she is. But, like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. [01:12:42] Speaker B: But my mom watched that show, and I would. I would see it and I would be like, oh, my God, what happened to her? And she'd be like, what are you talking about? She's the same size she always was. And I was like, no, no, no. I pulled out my phone. I was like, let's pull up some pics here. This is. This is not who we're dealing with. [01:13:02] Speaker A: Have you seen. Have you watched the Righteous Gemstones? [01:13:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we're caught up. [01:13:08] Speaker A: Wow. You watch that blasphemous shit? [01:13:10] Speaker B: I don't. [01:13:11] Speaker A: Like, you don't have a guilty conscience? [01:13:12] Speaker B: I don't find it blasphemous at all. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Okay. To be fair, only watched one episode, and I was like, yeah, I don't know if I could do this. [01:13:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I was actually just commenting on this to my wife while we were watching it. I was like, it blows my mind. And this is obviously by design for the show. These characters, like, preach. They're literal pastors. They're preaching on Sunday, they're leading a flock, and then when they, like, are alone, God doesn't exist. It's like, God is not a consideration in their minds for anything. It's. It's as if they do, and they've never really gotten into what they really believe. You only know by their actions what they're doing and not doing, but, like, it is as. As though this is a complete grift. They do not believe in God whatsoever. They don't think twice about stealing or cheating or. I mean, nothing. It blows my mind. [01:14:13] Speaker A: You don't. But you. You don't have. Let me ask you, you don't have any personal conviction for. About watching that. Like, there's nothing that bothers your spirit about watching the righteous gemstones? [01:14:25] Speaker B: No, because, I mean, it's just so, like, these characters are so obviously wrong and, like, corrupt that it's like. It's just making fun of, like, real corrupt, like Kenneth Copeland kind of people. To me, I never really. It. And that's what I've. That's what I mean. It's like the real God is hardly a consideration in the show whatsoever. You know, it's like if they say anything blasphemous, it's because the character is an idiot. It's not like the show is really propagating that, you know, I can see that. [01:15:00] Speaker A: Maybe I'll give it another shot based on your. Your justification of. Of. Of watching something unpleasant. I'll give it. I'll give it another shot. I'll give it another run through, you know, just. Just checking it out. But I will say I remember watching the first one. [01:15:16] Speaker B: I haven't seen the first season in like five years. So, I mean, for all I. Maybe. Maybe it was worse and maybe that's gotten a little better. But they had a great episode this year where they do a flashback with Bradley Cooper, and Bradley Cooper is like a distant ancestor of these guys. And he goes in. Spoilers, but it's a flashback, so it doesn't really matter to the storyline, but he goes and he robs a pastor at a church during the Civil War and he kills the pastor. He, like, smashes his head in and takes all the offering money. And then the Confederate army shows up and they're like, hey, you ready to report for duty? And he's like. He's pretending to be the pastor. And he's like, what is this? And he's like, oh, yeah, you're the chaplain. We've recruited you to be the chaplain. And so to get away with murder, he just hides the body and leaves with the Confederate army and just becomes a chaplain. He just fakes his way through the whole thing. And, like, it's just such an interesting story. It was a really good episode. [01:16:21] Speaker A: Sounds great. Sounds awesome. Okay, check that one out. Hold on. I got my prayer list right here. Let me write your name. [01:16:35] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I mean, like, I would say Like a show. I'm trying to think of any example, but like a show that is like, directly making fun of Christians. That bothers me. Where it's like if the punchline is like, how dumb Christianity is or something, but it's like, that's not even a consideration. It's like they are. They are so far beyond corrupt in that regard. They're not even struggling with their sin. They're not even like, oh, I know this is wrong, but like. No, it's like as soon as the parishioners are out of view, they're just cussing and raping, just doing whatever the they want. Just. [01:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah, and. Yeah, and I get it because they're. They're looks like from what I could see, they're. They're wealthy as all get from. Yeah. From. From me and these pastors. I just didn't. Didn't you brought up Kenneth Copeland. Didn't he just get convicted of something? Did he die? [01:17:39] Speaker B: I think he's. I think he's very sick. [01:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, we know that. [01:17:45] Speaker B: I better. I better get him in my celebrity death pool. [01:17:50] Speaker A: Hey, you got a celebrity death pool? [01:17:53] Speaker B: Yeah. You want to play? [01:17:54] Speaker A: Do you take. Huh. Yeah, I kind of do. That's why, like. Yeah. What are we looking at? [01:18:01] Speaker B: My dad beats everyone every year. [01:18:04] Speaker A: No. [01:18:05] Speaker B: Yes. [01:18:07] Speaker A: So what's this? [01:18:12] Speaker B: It's. It's pretty low tech, to be honest. It's just a spreadsheet that I maintain. You pick 20 people, I've got a roster of people, and then you can add your own if you want. You just tell me who you want to add, and then I calculate the points. You just have a roster of 20 people. You can make changes every Sunday and. And then there's like all sorts of, like, scoring rules. So basically the. The basic scoring is it's 200 points minus the person's age. So you get less points the older they are. But if you have them from early on, you get the original points that they were worth when you added them. And then you get five points for every month that you've had them. So you're. You're incentivized to keep them longer. And then like, the total point now. [01:19:07] Speaker A: Hold on is do you have a whole roster? Or like, do you. Like, like with fantasy football, you got to put these people in the game. Like, is your team always playing? Or is it like you have a bench and then you have someone who's active for. [01:19:20] Speaker B: No. Yeah, you've just got your 20 slots. And if any of those people die while they're on your roster, then. Then you get the points for them. [01:19:30] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. [01:19:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And then the total. The total points are half if they have a terminal illness that's known at the time, and it's three quarters if they're, like, sick with something like diabetes that might not necessarily kill them. Like, Charlie Sheen has hiv. So it's like, that takes points off, but, like, it's not necessarily going to for sure kill him. And then double points if they're murdered or if they die in a plane crash. [01:20:01] Speaker A: Well, I. Do. I. Who murdered. Double points. Murdered or died in a plane crash? [01:20:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Dude. Who's that? Who's that? Hackman. Gene Hackman. Dude, I had. I couldn't give people their points right away because we didn't know what happened there for like two weeks. Like, they're. They're, you know. Did you hear about that? [01:20:21] Speaker A: I. I don't know how he died. I know he recently died. [01:20:26] Speaker B: So he was found dead along with his wife and his dog. They were all house. So it turns out he had pretty advanced dementia and he was not really functioning. She died from hantavirus. And then he wasn't being taken care of. And he starved to death over the following days along with the dog. The saddest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. How the heck people weren't checking in on them for that long. I don't know how that's even possible. But they. They didn't rule out foul play for, like, weeks because nobody knew why everyone was dead in the house. So I. I couldn't give people their points because I didn't know if they needed to be double or not. [01:21:14] Speaker A: And what happens, like, when. Is there a payout or something? [01:21:18] Speaker B: We've talked about that. We've talked about doing like a $20 buy in, and the winner just gets the pot at the end of the year. We've never actually done it, but that's. That's still on the table. [01:21:30] Speaker A: Do you remember Mr. Belvedere? [01:21:33] Speaker B: I. I'm aware of it, but I never watched it. [01:21:36] Speaker A: Oh, there the. I want to. I wonder if he's dead. I don't know, but there was a guy that was on there. He's still alive. I want to add him to my roster. Bob Euchre. [01:21:49] Speaker B: Is that the guy who played Mr. Belvedere? [01:21:52] Speaker A: No, it was the father in the house on Mr. Belvedere. [01:21:59] Speaker B: Let's see, man. Nope. Oh. He died in January. You were close. [01:22:03] Speaker A: I was hoping to really put him on the roster before you did your Research. [01:22:07] Speaker B: No, no, no. So what, what'll happen is I'll, I'll put them in and like, put who they are, what they did and stuff and then put in their birth date. And the spreadsheet automatically calculates what their points are worth. And then I dive into like, do they have known health problems, Are they dead? You know, all that stuff. And so. [01:22:29] Speaker A: That's awesome. Yeah, count me in. Count me in on this. I think we need to make. We need to make a. We need to definitely make a. A dollar amount. Like, I'm not just playing for shits and giggles. [01:22:44] Speaker B: Like, oh, okay. [01:22:47] Speaker A: If I'm gonna research and get on rancor and stuff like that and look up, you know, celebrity death pool, I kind of want to know. Kind of want to know. You know, I kind of, I kind of want to be able to get paid out. [01:22:58] Speaker B: You know, we, we go year by year, so every year we start over with a, a new set of points and everything. So we might, we might have to wait till January to do a buy in because nobody agreed to that. This, this go around. But I've talked about it every year. I've just never done it. [01:23:17] Speaker A: Is. Does anybody got Bill Pigosby? [01:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah, let me, let me pull it up. He's. He's on there. I don't know if anyone has him chosen, but he's definitely on the roster. And you can also, like, you don't have to have unique people. Like, everyone can have whoever they want. [01:23:41] Speaker A: Oh, cool. So I do want Harvey Weinstein. I want, I definitely want Bill Cosby on there. Jimmy Swaggart, maybe him. Dick Van Dyke's gonna be low points because he's 99, but there's a good chance he's going to be, be out pretty soon as well as Robert Wagner. [01:24:04] Speaker B: Dude, it's. My dad just does nothing but research people to put on his list. I'm looking at his. I love that you would not. I mean, I hardly know who any of these people are. Just because he finds the most random people. [01:24:20] Speaker A: Mel Brooks on there. Is Mel Brooks on his list? [01:24:24] Speaker B: Let's see. No, I know he has been at some point. He's been on like most people's lists. [01:24:31] Speaker A: I'm going to throw cats on there. Like, like controversial cats that are just out there, you know, I mean, like, like Kanye's gonna be one of mine. Kanye's gonna be one. Like, there's no way the dude. Well, keeps talking. Like he's gonna talk and, and not get offed. [01:24:45] Speaker B: Well, that's, that's the Thing is that, like, the younger they are, the more points they're worth. So. [01:24:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I. I'm definitely going for some high profile, controversial people that are just go like, P. Diddy. PD's on my list. Puff Daddy's on my list. Are you. Are you putting these down right now as I'm talking to you? [01:25:08] Speaker B: Let me. [01:25:09] Speaker A: Puff Daddy, what kind of points? [01:25:13] Speaker B: F, D, A, D. [01:25:17] Speaker A: What kind of points do I get for prison? Murder? [01:25:22] Speaker B: If it's murder, it's whatever points they were worth. Doubled, double. [01:25:27] Speaker A: Nice. What if it's in prison? What about a suicide? Like, if I would have had Jeffrey Epstein on my list, what kind of points would I have got for a suicide? [01:25:37] Speaker B: Well, that would have been double because that was murder. But we didn't stipulate anything for suicide. [01:25:43] Speaker A: It hasn't really been. Has it really been proven it was murdered? [01:25:47] Speaker B: I mean, well, I mean, depending. Depending on how many coincidences you want to allow into your life. [01:25:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like. Well, what's the official record? What's the official autopsy report say? Suicide or murder? [01:26:03] Speaker B: I actually just heard something about that that was. There was something odd on the. The autopsy. Like, it. It didn't fully say suicide. It said something like asphyxiation by means of a something or other. That kind of implied like, someone else could have done it. Hold on. Jeffrey Epstein, official cause of death. That was probably just bs. Someone said. [01:26:33] Speaker A: You could definitely put Buzz Aldrin on there. He's gonna. [01:26:36] Speaker B: He's on there. Yep. Actually, did he die? I feel like he's. Feel like he might be gone. [01:26:45] Speaker A: No, I think it was the other one that died. [01:26:48] Speaker B: Neil Armstrong. [01:26:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that. That liar. [01:26:54] Speaker B: Yep. Buzz Aldrin. Currently 100. [01:27:08] Speaker A: Damn. Gene Hackman was number 37 on the celebrity death pool. Huh? [01:27:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he. I've never had someone be present on so many people's individual lists. I feel like four or five people had him. [01:27:26] Speaker A: You could also put Robert Duvall on mine. Feel like he's right around the corner. He's. He reminds me of Gene Hackman. [01:27:32] Speaker B: Let me get your thing. Let me get your thing made. [01:27:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You might as well just line this. This shit up. We're. We're going to town. Wow. James Dobson made the celebrity death pool list. James Dobson, bro. [01:27:52] Speaker B: Who's that? [01:27:53] Speaker A: Focus on the family. [01:27:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Okay, start over. Who do you want? You want Buzz Aldrin? [01:27:59] Speaker A: Give me Bill Cosby. Give me Buzz Aldrin. [01:28:03] Speaker B: Give me Harvey Weinstein. [01:28:05] Speaker A: Robert Duvall. If this is just mine, in Your eyes only, Gene Hackman. [01:28:12] Speaker B: It's not if you're willing to do me a solid G. John Wayne. Robert Duall. You wanted Harvey Weinstein. [01:28:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Roman Polansky. [01:28:33] Speaker B: Is he still alive? [01:28:35] Speaker A: Yes, he is, dude. And he's got a horrible death coming to him, dude. He was a cruel dude to. To Sharon Tate before she got murdered. [01:28:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:28:46] Speaker A: It was not a good husband, bro. [01:28:48] Speaker B: I didn't assume he was. [01:28:50] Speaker A: Douchebag. [01:28:54] Speaker B: All right, you get 15 more. [01:28:59] Speaker A: Well, I'll definitely have them for you soon here, but in the meantime, that's a good start, you know, Go ahead and throw Frankie valli on there. V8LL. [01:29:09] Speaker B: Great choice. Great choice. [01:29:13] Speaker A: I feel like Woody Allen's right around the corner from death. [01:29:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, dude. [01:29:17] Speaker A: Half the men in my men's group on Saturdays has a. Have a foot in the grave, you know what I mean? Like, it's a pretty old men's group. I tell them that all the time. They kind of. They kind of look at me like, are you serious? Yeah. And, well, I'll say it in a nice way, like, hey, I know in five years, half of you guys won't be here, which is why I don't try and get too close to you guys, because, you know, you won't be here in a little bit. Give me some Clint Eastwood on that bad boy. [01:29:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, man. [01:29:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Also take a little Warren Buffett. [01:29:51] Speaker B: Mm. Mm. Great choice, sir. [01:29:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll just throw shit out there. You know what I mean? [01:29:59] Speaker B: I've got people I wanted to incentivize myself to not root for the death. So I put a few people I really like on, like Ron Paul and Noam Chomsky and Thomas. [01:30:13] Speaker A: So give me some. Give me. Yeah, give me some Kanye West. [01:30:17] Speaker B: Kanye West. [01:30:19] Speaker A: Give me a Joe Biden and a Puff Daddy. I'll take my. Really as well. [01:30:31] Speaker B: We really all should have Joe Biden. [01:30:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Michael Caine, too. Give me Michael Kane. [01:30:36] Speaker B: Got it. Got it. [01:30:40] Speaker A: I really thought. Six, nine. What is that? That I don't know. What is. What is his name? Takashi. Six, nine. I really thought he was gonna die a lot sooner than I really thought he was gonna die soon, and he came out and kind of did not. Yeah, and I'll give you some more. Give me Alan Alda. Maybe a little William Shatner. Hey, does Pamela Anderson. Is that her name? Pamela Anderson from Baywatch? It is, right? Pamela Anderson Lee or what? Pamela Lee, Yeah. Does she have Anderson? [01:31:19] Speaker B: Are you pretending not to know her name? [01:31:24] Speaker A: It sounded familiar. [01:31:26] Speaker B: Jenna, Was it Jay Meeson? What What? Even I don't even know. [01:31:36] Speaker A: Does Pamela Anderson have a disease? [01:31:38] Speaker B: I don't have the Internet. [01:31:45] Speaker A: Cardiac. [01:31:46] Speaker B: That's. That's just her face now, but she. [01:31:50] Speaker A: Doesn'T have a, like, HIV or anything. [01:31:53] Speaker B: She used to have hep C. I don't know if that's a thing that goes away. [01:31:57] Speaker A: Not even worried about it. Put her on my list. [01:32:00] Speaker B: Okay. [01:32:03] Speaker A: How many more else I got? Let's just knock this bitch out real quick. [01:32:06] Speaker B: You've got four more. [01:32:09] Speaker A: Four more. Oh, you know what? Wendy Williams. Give me Wooden. Wendy Williams. [01:32:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, man. Lots of people. Yeah, people are picking her up. [01:32:20] Speaker A: Yep. [01:32:20] Speaker B: Oh, you know what I can do? So I've got the roster here, and I can arrange it by points. And whoever's worth the lowest are, like, the oldest, sickest people. I can just read you a few from the bottom here. [01:32:35] Speaker A: Give me Willie Nelson. [01:32:37] Speaker B: Okay. [01:32:44] Speaker A: Give me Harvey Keitel. [01:32:51] Speaker B: One more. [01:32:53] Speaker A: Only one more? [01:32:55] Speaker B: Yep. [01:32:57] Speaker A: Oh, gosh, man. [01:32:59] Speaker B: We've got Joanne Woodward, Donald Sterling. I've been waiting on that one a long time. [01:33:08] Speaker A: Get rid of Harvey Keitel, who's my oldest right now. Who's my. You know what? Yeah, get rid of Harvey Keitel. Give me. Give me a Britney Spears. And give me. If Oprah Wasn't the black. [01:33:31] Speaker B: How about. How about Bruce Willis? [01:33:34] Speaker A: No. No. Yeah. He's got. What, he's got dementia or something? Alzheimer's. [01:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:40] Speaker A: Does that count against me? [01:33:43] Speaker B: He's only worth 65 points because. [01:33:46] Speaker A: Only 65? [01:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:48] Speaker A: Oh, what about Roseanne Barr? What she'd be worth? [01:33:52] Speaker B: Let's see. I don't have her on here, I don't think, but what is she, like, 70? She'd probably worth, like, 130 points, something like that. [01:34:04] Speaker A: 130? [01:34:05] Speaker B: Yeah, she doesn't really have any, like, known health issues besides being batshit. [01:34:14] Speaker A: Give me Andrew Tate. [01:34:16] Speaker B: All right. Yeah, you want a good spread of, like, old and are definitely gonna die sometime in the next year or two. And also, like, oh, this would be crazy good points if this one happened to happen, you know? Like, I don't really think Britney Spears is gonna die, despite how she looks, but, you know, she would pay out big if she did. [01:34:40] Speaker A: Yeah, on an od, maybe. Yeah. [01:34:45] Speaker B: I don't know if she's on drugs, dude. I think she's batshit. [01:34:49] Speaker A: I. I definitely. She's batshit. But if they. If they want to offer, that's how they're gonna play it. I mean, that's how the CIA always plays it. That's true. Okay, this did. Do I have Candace Owens on mine. [01:34:59] Speaker B: No, you didn't say Candace Owens. [01:35:02] Speaker A: Get rid of Roseanne Barr. Give me some Candace Owens. [01:35:06] Speaker B: You don't have Roseanne Barr. [01:35:09] Speaker A: Who'd I go with you? [01:35:11] Speaker B: Andrew Tate and Britney Spears. [01:35:13] Speaker A: Get rid of Britney Spears. Give me some Candace Owens. Okay, well, what's the. What's the spread between Britney Spears and Candace? What do I got? What's Candace worth? And what's Britney worth? [01:35:23] Speaker B: I'd have to calculate it real quick. You want me to do that? [01:35:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I want the. I want the higher point spread on whatever has the higher points. Give me that. [01:35:32] Speaker B: Okay. Britney Spears is worth 157, and I don't have Candace, but I can get her on here real quick. [01:35:46] Speaker A: Healthy. I mean, do I get extra points? Because what you do right now. [01:35:54] Speaker B: I let the cat in. [01:35:56] Speaker A: Wow. I totally thought you did something else. [01:36:00] Speaker B: What do you think I did? [01:36:03] Speaker A: I don't know, man. I'm not even gonna say. My mind went wandering. I thought, maybe he's hitting a vape. He doesn't want me to see it. And then I was like, well, kind of looks like if you would have stayed over there longer, I would have thought you were blowing a dude. [01:36:19] Speaker B: Sure. [01:36:19] Speaker A: You have to see it from my view. Like, your head just went, like, over, you know? [01:36:26] Speaker B: I get it. I get it. [01:36:27] Speaker A: Yo, do I get extra points? Because Candace, like, what's the assassination point spread on that? [01:36:35] Speaker B: That a murder would be double. Okay, so Candace is worth 165. So she is worth about 7 points more than 8 points more than Brittany. [01:36:48] Speaker A: And I keep her on my list for as long as I want for as many years. [01:36:51] Speaker B: Yep. I've got people 20, 22 on my. [01:36:54] Speaker A: List, and it only goes up because I get them at their age now. [01:37:00] Speaker B: So their points will go down, but the points that they were at when you chose them will stay on your list. So if I choose them a year later, they're gonna be worth one less point to me because they're a year older. But you're gonna get the original points. [01:37:16] Speaker A: Give me Brittany. I'll take Brittany over Candace. [01:37:18] Speaker B: Okay. All right. [01:37:26] Speaker A: Sweet. [01:37:29] Speaker B: I did not expect you to be that into that. [01:37:33] Speaker A: I. [01:37:34] Speaker B: My dad is gonna be so stoked that you're playing. He's gonna probably want to call you and talk. [01:37:43] Speaker A: I. You know, so number one asked me if we were gonna have guest. I think your dad. Dad would be a great guest. I think your dad would be a great guest. I think number one wants to be a guest for. What did I say in eugenics quotes. [01:38:00] Speaker B: Or yeah, the segment. [01:38:03] Speaker A: But I. I think your dad. I can't wait till you get back to California and see how this podcast takes. [01:38:10] Speaker B: I've been thinking about that, dude, because, like, I can't hide it anymore. Like, once I'm in the house with everyone, like, I'm gonna have to go out to the garage or something to do my podcast. And, like, everyone's. [01:38:20] Speaker A: Yeah, he's gonna just walk on through, bro. [01:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah. But now it's. [01:38:30] Speaker A: That's awesome. [01:38:31] Speaker B: That's the problem I've gotten myself into is that I've chosen to not say anything. And now we're 15 episodes deep. And it's like, now you're finding out about a whole second life. I have. When you find out about. [01:38:45] Speaker A: And I think there's gonna be, like, we gotta have. So I have someone working on a theme song for us, and I think I'm gonna have them also work on a. Here comes dad. Here comes dad. You know what I mean? He's just gonna, like, stroll into the garage, and we're gonna make time for dad, you know what I mean? And everybody's gonna see how quirky he. Like, dude, I think he's gonna. He's gonna up the ratings, bro. Your dad's nuts. [01:39:09] Speaker B: What would be a good subject to get him on for? Just. It's just gotta be something to get him in the door. He'll talk about whatever the he wants. [01:39:17] Speaker A: But here's the thing. I don't necessarily think you have him just go raw and come in. I think it's gonna be. You guys are sitting there at breakfast, and you're just gonna have to ask him a question. You're gonna have your microphone, you're gonna ask him a question, and you'll be like, hey, dad, what are your thoughts on. And he's just gonna bop. He's just gonna blurt it out. You're gonna. [01:39:38] Speaker B: I'm gonna secretly record. Yeah, I got. I think I can tell this on the podcast. There's got to be a statute of limitations on anti Semitism, right? I had a. My. So my mom ran a home business. She. She pet sat dogs for people at the house. And she had this one customer who was Jewish. I'm not saying that has anything to do with anything, but he was Jewish, and her going rate was like $30 a day. He haggled with her down to 15. And she was going to say no, but then the wife called her, said, look, I don't know, like, he might just let this dog out of the house if we don't find her somewhere to stay while we're gone. Like, he's not gonna take care of this dog. You've got to do me the solid and you gotta. [01:40:38] Speaker A: So the wife couldn't make up the difference. [01:40:41] Speaker B: I, I don't know. I was a kid when this happened, but I remember my dad finding out when he got home, he just. I got my, my flip phone out and started recording him because he was just going off on out. He's like, look, honey, I, I don't like it any more than you do, but eventually you just have to accept that we can't take any more Jews. He's just going off about how Jews are always gonna chip you. [01:41:12] Speaker A: I mean, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. [01:41:16] Speaker B: I mean, they're a successful people. [01:41:21] Speaker A: Yeah. They're not successful because they spend their money. Well. [01:41:27] Speaker B: It was like a 10 minute thing that I recorded. It was great. I got to get something like that. [01:41:31] Speaker A: That's what I think you should do, though. I think we should start every, you know, like our Father's Day episode. Just a nice rant that you recorded of him, you know, talking about something stupid, you. But ranting. Just going off, you know? Yeah, just going in like, whatever our episode is, whatever. We're talking about that. [01:41:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't wait for ISIS to come and cut my fucking head off. [01:41:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Whatever the topic is that week. Sit with down with him the night before and be like, hey, Pops, what are you. What are your thoughts on xyz? Are your thought on the new generation? Let's just say we did the Gen X thing. What's your thought on the. The new generation? And just let him go for a minute and then boom, that's our new opening to every episode. [01:42:17] Speaker B: That would be hilarious. [01:42:20] Speaker A: His rant on whatever topic we're talking about. And he doesn't know that we're putting him on the podcast, so don't try include him on, on, on pay when we, when we get successful. No, there's no residuals for him on this. [01:42:34] Speaker B: A nice plot. That's about all he's got coming to it. [01:42:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't ask to be in this world and you didn't ask me on the podcast, so we're even. [01:42:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. But it would have to be something that I know would really rile them up, you know, and. [01:42:53] Speaker A: But it doesn't. Because if you ask him just any every day. [01:42:57] Speaker B: That's true. That's true. He'll just talk about whatever he wants to talk about. [01:43:00] Speaker A: He just get. He just goes off the wall on it. [01:43:03] Speaker B: Because I can almost guess. I can almost get. If I asked him about this generation, he would very quickly go to just how it was when he was a kid. And then like, yeah, and I was at the beach every day and I was hanging out with Sandy. And, you know, Sandy is a really interesting guy because let me tell you this Sandy, that's. I almost can predict where it's gonna go in his ADHD brain. We're gonna do. We're gonna do a solid five on Sandy. That's how it's gonna start. [01:43:35] Speaker A: Let it happen. Because then when we go to like, hey, what's your take on revelation? I. I would love to see what his, his take is on our topics. Dad, what's your thought on peaceful parenting? [01:43:49] Speaker B: He. When he would probably think that he did that. [01:43:54] Speaker A: I'm gonna go through. Gonna listen to episode 10. So we give it a title. [01:44:00] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. If you've got time, I can put it on on my way to work in the morning. [01:44:06] Speaker A: And I totally got time, dude. Like, my job is on hold for the next fucking two weeks. [01:44:12] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:44:13] Speaker A: So I go every day. But like today I had nothing to do. I was falling asleep after three hours of getting caught up. I'm like, okay, I'm all caught up. What do I do now? So I went to the bar, had a couple beers, and came back and kind of took a nap at work and decided to leave at 1. [01:44:30] Speaker B: Nice. [01:44:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, it's nice. It's nice being your own boss of your own job site. [01:44:36] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah, man. Well, we've been going for an hour 45, so I think, I think we got it. I think we got it in the can. [01:44:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I do feel tonight was a little more mel. One of our more mellow ones. [01:44:54] Speaker B: Yep. [01:44:54] Speaker A: You know, I'm glad we only have two listeners. [01:44:59] Speaker B: I, I resent the fact that number one is listening to this now. [01:45:05] Speaker A: Yeah. But I love the fact that she, she, she judges, she doesn't judge me. She's. She's non. Judgmental towards me, I guess. [01:45:15] Speaker B: I don't know if I've ever met her. [01:45:19] Speaker A: I don't know if I'd ever let you meet her. [01:45:21] Speaker B: Okay. For sure. All right. The. Was that about? [01:45:28] Speaker A: I'm not really quite sure how to respond to that. No, no. She is coming out for Easter though, so that's kind of cool. Excited about that. [01:45:36] Speaker B: I think my favorite thing you ever said. I'll tell this real quick and then we can get out of here. But this was just like a moment of pure Comedy from you I've remembered forever, and you probably don't even remember it. So my friends and I were taking our trucks out to Holy Gym Canyon, and we would just drive on the bumpy road, and we had trucks and it was fun, whatever. And I was telling you, I've never. [01:46:02] Speaker A: Been there in all my time in. In that area. Never went, Never gone to Holy Gym. [01:46:07] Speaker B: You know what? There was a big old fire out there, and I don't know if you're allowed to go back there anymore in a. In a car, but I was telling you, like, oh, dude, you should come out with us. Like, you ride. You ride with me. And, you know, we got like two trucks going out. And you were like, oh, man, could I take the Tahoe and. Or no, no. You said, can I bring my truck? And I was like, oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, bring the Tahoe. Let's do it. Like. Like, I don't know if the clearance. You know, we'll figure it out. And then we go on. We're. It's like five minutes later, and you go, hey, dude, can I ask you something? And I was like, yeah, what's up? He's like, why wouldn't you call it a truck before? You know, like, I. I said truck, and then you said. [01:47:03] Speaker A: Maybe I got something with that. Maybe I got something with that, dude. Because I still refer to it as my truck. [01:47:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I still like the truck. Yeah. I don't know. [01:47:14] Speaker A: I know it's an issue. [01:47:15] Speaker B: I know It's a tall SUV's. Trucks. I. I've always thought of trucks as with a bed, but I. Yeah, me too. Definition of a truck. I think. I think an SUV is a truck. [01:47:27] Speaker A: Well, I mean, like, box trucks are trucks, but yeah, they have a. They're U Hauls in an essence. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, though, because I'll usually just refer to it as my truck and email or text because it's easier to say truck than to be like, I don't know. My Tahoe. I don't know. It's. It's like saying car or like, if you have an Altima, hey, can I bring my Ultima? Like, it feels like I'm putting like the fucking Kia on a pedestal, you know? I mean, like, like that ultimate. Like, I drive an Ultima. No, no, no, no. [01:48:02] Speaker B: You. [01:48:02] Speaker A: You know, you. You drive a car. You know, I don't know, it just feels like by. When you say it by name, you're. You're trying to. I don't know, I guess I could have called it my suv. [01:48:12] Speaker B: I do call my truck the Tund. [01:48:20] Speaker A: Get that, though. The younger generation, they're. They're a little more feminine than the older generation, you know, I mean, so that's. I think that's a generation rational thing. It's like dicks in the mouth. It's not common in. In. In a Gen X, but it's a little more common in your. Your generation for guys to. To call their. Their trucks Tundras. Kind of like the Honda. What's the Honda truck? The Pilot? Was that Honda? Honda. [01:48:52] Speaker B: I don't know what that is. The Pilot is a little mini suv. [01:48:56] Speaker A: Oh, Honda. I forget what. I thought you would have known, though. [01:49:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I did at one point. I don't like where this is going, though. I don't think this subtle disrespect. [01:49:11] Speaker A: I'll tell you where this is going. This is going on a camping trip. We want a camping trip. [01:49:16] Speaker B: Ridgeline. The Honda Ridgeline. [01:49:20] Speaker A: Awesome. No, I'm just kidding, man. No, I just feel weird calling it a Tahoe because it's not like. It's not like a high I get if I had a Maybach, My Buck, whatever. Or a Ferrari. Hey, can I bring my Ferrari? You know what I mean? I'm kind of rubbing your face that I got a Ferrari. [01:49:39] Speaker B: I don't like that either, but like. [01:49:42] Speaker A: To say that I got a Tahoe, it's kind of like. You think the Tahoe is something special. [01:49:48] Speaker B: It is, though. [01:49:51] Speaker A: I mean, it's got some special memories in it. Not going to lie. [01:49:56] Speaker B: Your daughter's listening to this podcast now. Don't. Just don't get into details. [01:50:01] Speaker A: This is how I get her off of listening. [01:50:05] Speaker B: Well, you're about to get me off, so go ahead, tell me. [01:50:12] Speaker A: All right, guys, it's been a good night. Hey, so let's plan on next week at least touching a part of. I mean, like, I'll at least read Revelation by then, have some notes. [01:50:22] Speaker B: Okay, so let's. [01:50:23] Speaker A: Let's plan on that. [01:50:24] Speaker B: Cool. All right. This has been Pseudonyms. [01:50:28] Speaker A: I've been Egonistic, and I've been Dr. Peter Venkman. [01:50:34] Speaker B: Later, guys. [01:50:38] Speaker A: Later, man. Love you.