011: I'm Allergic to God's Word

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Hey, dude. Like, I love what we have, but hold on, hold on, hold on, man. Hold on. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Look, I'm expecting a butt. [00:00:19] Speaker A: All right, now, you there? [00:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. So I love what we have. There's no but to it. That's funny you say sense of but. Sounds like we're breaking up. But I was telling us, tone, a director, like, so I have a, I have a large client that I'm building for, and they, they're worldwide. And so the director of this facility invited me out for whiskey. So we're talking, right? We're just hanging out. This is earlier today, and I tell him about the podcast and I'm like, oh, yeah, tonight I gotta go because, you know, I gotta do a podcast. And he was like, you do a podcast? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, what's it about? So I'm trying to describe it to him, which I think I do a fairly, fairly good job of. And then at the end of it, I was like, it kind of sucks because I can't really talk to this guy during the week. Like, I love talking to this guy and I can't talk to him during the week. And he was like, oh, yeah. I was like, yeah, cuz like, it, like, like there's so much good stuff that we just talk about that that would ruin, like, it ruins the episode because by the time we get to the episode, like, we're kind of caught up on life. Yeah. And so, yeah, it a joyful night for me, but at the same time, it's a sorrowful six other days. [00:01:49] Speaker B: Well, the nice thing is that we didn't used to talk once a week consistently. So it's like we are talking more, but then it feels like we are but this. [00:02:00] Speaker A: But you're always an enjoyable person to talk to. [00:02:03] Speaker B: Oh, thank you. You too. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, like, for me, revelation will be homework you've already done, but you've always been ahead of that curve when it comes to, like, I don't know, thinking outside of just a centered focus Christianity. Like where you just pastor says it, that's what we believe. Like, you've, you've always been someone that's like, I want to see what's over here. Like, there's. I like that, I like that about you. And so I think when we get together, it's just a delightful time for me, man. Tell you, I, I, I, I didn't get dressed up tonight, but I was running behind schedule. [00:02:41] Speaker B: But yeah, you're actually early. [00:02:43] Speaker A: I know I am. [00:02:44] Speaker B: Fair to you. [00:02:45] Speaker A: The, the Good thing was, was it was. It was like 7:56 and I was sitting at the cigar lounge with, with the client and we were just talking. I was like, oh, you know what? Like, this is a good time to go. Like, it's 8:00. I got a podcast to get ready for out. And he was like, yeah, right on. Like, and he's kind of going through a rough time in his marriage. And so like a lot of our conversation at that time was like, hey, dude, like, fight for your marriage. Like if you, if you. And mind you, I went old school Christianity with it. I said, hey, you ever heard of the Love Dare? [00:03:22] Speaker B: What's the Love Dare? [00:03:23] Speaker A: You had? Oh, well, makes sense for you back at like Calvary, like when we were at ccrsm, like, the Love Dare was a movie that came out that was like about, like, it was like, these guys direct so much and if you've seen a, a handful of Christian movies, you've probably seen one of theirs. Like, theirs is Courage. There's one named Courage where it's like a bunch of cops and they make a pledge. But anyhow, they started with like the Love Dare and it was a guy losing his wife. Like, they're going through life and they're going like different directions. It's a rough patch, whatever it is, but he's like, but they're like on the brink of divorce. Like, they're both just like, in that, like, I don't want to talk to you. And he gets challenged with the Love Dare. And the Love Dare is like, the dude goes through every day, he does something for a month, he does something for his wife. And it starts off small and then it works on bigger and it dresses like, what if she rejects you? Or this is like, how are you feeling right now? Not like in a therapist way, how you feeling right now? But it's like, hey, like, if you feel like this, like, it makes sense, you're going to feel like that fight against that urge and like press into this. But it was real big because it came out when we were at ccr, Sam. So a lot of couples were doing it just to. Just because it was like the, the craze, you know, like when, when crazy love came out and everybody was about crazy love or even purpose driven life when it came out. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Or like War Room. [00:04:53] Speaker A: Yes. He was a director of War Room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay. [00:04:57] Speaker B: War Room was great. [00:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah. It's so it's like that. It's like a Christian. There might be like a, a C list or A B list actor in it. You know what I mean? But it's still decent enough where you're like, that's a good message. Like, yeah, I get it. You're not selling box office hits. But at the same time, like, it was decent acting. Like, it's. And there's a message behind it. Yeah, yeah. Hey, shout out. Shout out to Boston real quick. She listens to every one of us. Every one of them. [00:05:24] Speaker B: Oh, that's awesome. [00:05:25] Speaker A: She loves you. Yeah. [00:05:26] Speaker B: And she said such nice things about me. I appreciate her. [00:05:29] Speaker A: She did. I. I forgot that I spoke so freely about how she was jealous of my daughter at the time. And I said, hey, was that the same one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure. I pointed it out in that. In that episode. I brought it up, and she was. She had. She had sent me a text, and she was like, by the way, like, at that time, like, yeah, I was very, like, you know, like, I was very much. I'm not gonna read it, but I was very much, like, immature in my thought process. And, you know, she's like, but, like, you know, just understand my heart behind it was. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, we've already squashed it. Like, we've already talked about this. Like, I get it. But yeah, I forgot about that. But, yeah, And I don't have to remind her to listen to everyone. She just. She just subscribes, you know, to pseudonyms. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Dude, I can't believe it was spelled wrong. Dude, I can't believe my name was on it. [00:06:25] Speaker A: All right, so check this out. I was talking to Boston. She's asking about the podcast. Like, how do you spell pseudonyms? And I spell it, and then I jump on the link, and I'm like, oh, I've been spelling it wrong this whole time. There's an extra N after the M. I was like. And she's like, wow, you guys are gonna have to tell every one member, like, your followers how to spell the name of your podcast. And I was like, man, I've been spelling it wrong my whole life. And then my whole life. And then I Google it. And I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah. I was like, this dude spelled it wrong. Holy shit. I was like, the guy that doesn't end a sentence in an article spelled it wrong. I was a little. I was a little spelled. Especially with our technology. I was a little disappointed. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Oh, that's so freaking funny. Oh, my gosh. [00:07:25] Speaker A: I doubted myself. You actually made me doubt myself. Like, I honestly thought my whole life. [00:07:30] Speaker B: You shouldn't believe anything I say. [00:07:32] Speaker A: The system failed me. The system failed me is what I thought. It did not. You failed me. [00:07:39] Speaker B: I know that Boston is our only listener, but when you texted me that my name was on it, my blood ran cold, as if we get, like, a million downloads per episode. [00:07:52] Speaker A: I'm just trying to get. Literally trying to get ahead of it. [00:07:55] Speaker B: For one second, I was like, all right, I'm going to have to just write my wife a letter and just apologize. I'm just going to get out in front of this. I'm going to call my mom. I'm going to explain to her. I got to call. I got to call all of my black friends. [00:08:17] Speaker A: I just called my pastor. I was like, hey, look, check this out. Don't. Don't listen to this. You know, so many people ask me, like, oh, so it's a Christian podcast. Even. Even Boston said, I thought you guys were gonna, like, be diving into the Bible and kind of dissecting it, which is not a bad idea, like, to just every now and then, love to do that. Hit a book of the Bible or even a chapter. And so I was like, no. And so, like, my pen pal. I have a pen pal in prison. And he was like, oh, you keep mentioning your podcast. I thought you were listening to one. You're making one. And I was like, yeah. And he was like, oh, is it, like, a Christian one? Like, the blessings of God? I know you talked about going through hardships, but do you also talk about the blessings of God? And I was like, no. So, like, don't get it twisted. Like, we talk about stuff that men go through and things that would benefit men from our. But we share experiences. We share, like, it's not a Christian podcast. It's a podcast of two dudes who have a Christian faith. And. But there are two different spectrums of life. Like, one's newly married with a. With a toddler. I'm. And he's young, and I'm old, divorced with adult children. I was like. So it just kind of, like, addresses that from a. From our experiences and our belief system. So everybody kept thinking it was going to be. Which I think it's a good. A good suggestion that we. That we do, like, a chapter or a book. I really want to dive into Revelation. And it's killing me because I'm like, oh, it feels like a rabbit hole, bro. I'm not gonna lie. That's the feeling. That's the feeling it gives me. It gives me the rabbit hole feeling. [00:10:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Like it's almost overwhelming to start because you don't know where you're gonna go and all the different little trails you're gonna have to go down to feel like you got a comprehensive picture. Here's how that's. That's probably where you're gonna appreciate where I'm at, because I. I studied it years ago and haven't really gone back to it with depth. So, like, there's a lot of things that are, you know, gone from my head. So, I mean, there's a lot of, like, those little trails that I'm not going to remember how to go down. I've got more of a. Like an overview. [00:10:44] Speaker A: Hey, if it was in the. If it was in the Marvel or DC realm, would you equate it to, like, the multiverse? [00:10:56] Speaker B: In. In. In what sense? [00:10:59] Speaker A: In the sense that I feel like there's so many. There's so many aspects that people branch off and say, well, because of this, I take this stance. I mean, we got really four big categories on this. You got the amillennial, post millennial, pre millennial. What's the last one? [00:11:17] Speaker B: Dispensational. [00:11:18] Speaker A: Okay. So you have four stances on it, and they all kind of have, like, their own little web inside. I feel like it's the multiverse, bro. Like, at any moment, some of them overlap. [00:11:30] Speaker B: Yeah. So, like, dispensationalists will have pre trib, mid trib, post trib, and then post. I'm post millennialist. But there's kind of two different branches of post millennialist. [00:11:41] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. [00:11:42] Speaker B: Leave. You can believe that we're in the millennium, and it's just a very long time, which is kind of what the amillennialists believe. [00:11:51] Speaker A: Yeah, but we're right. [00:11:53] Speaker B: When you listen to who. Who believe that there is a literal thousand years of peace that will begin at some point. [00:12:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:01] Speaker B: And it hasn't begun yet. [00:12:02] Speaker A: And then you're on the argument, you know, thousand days is an hour. You'll have that argument from those thousand days is an hour. I mean, like, now we're. Yeah. [00:12:11] Speaker B: And there's a lot of web, and that's an example. I'm pretty much agnostic on that point. I think, like, I can make an argument that we're in the millennium, and I can make an argument that it. And it probably, on top of that, there is more peace to come. So maybe that looks a little fuller 2000 years from now or something. So, you know, but that's obviously. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Here's why I podcast yeah, I'm gonna say this, this is kind of why I'm disinterested. End times, however we're told not to be ignorant. That's the conviction aspect of it. But here's what is unintriguing about it to me. I know there's one God. I know there's going to be certain things to look out for at the end of the day. I don't care where I'm at in the millennial or the tribulation aspect of it. Yeah, I'm gonna still fall on that sword of. There is one God, his name is Jesus. Like, I'm still gonna fall on that sword. You know what I mean? Like, that's the sword I'll fall on. So for me, it's almost like I'm kind of doing homework I don't need to do. [00:13:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, let me think about that. I mean, I think ultimately, yeah, you're right. I think there, it does change your outlook on your day to day. Yeah, but I, but I think I have a different. I have a different outlook on my day to day than a dispensationalist has because. Explain those days. Explain dispensationalists. [00:13:54] Speaker A: No, explain your day. How does your day differ in thought? [00:13:59] Speaker B: Well, I should have, I should have been ready for that. [00:14:05] Speaker A: Well, I'll tell you this, but what I. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Well, what I will say is that, like, the dispensationalist believes the whole world could end tomorrow, and I believe we might have 10,000 years. So, like, my outlook on my day is like, like, hey, I'm going to take. No, no, it's, it's way better. It's like, hey, look at how far we've come. Look at, look at what Christianity has brought to the world in terms of medicine, technology, science, all these things we're living in orphanages compared to any other point in history, and we might just be beginning. So, like, when I plant a tree, that tree isn't gonna burn up tomorrow. That tree might grow to be 60ft tall, you know, So I, I do think that it gives you a slightly different outlook on your day to day when you have a different end time. But, but not that that would affect anything about what you believe about Jesus being God, you know? So you're right in that sense. [00:15:03] Speaker A: I do agree. I do agree to an extent. [00:15:06] Speaker B: You're laughing at me, though, because you're. [00:15:10] Speaker A: Like, dog, we're just beginning. Like, we got, we got 10,000 more years. I'm looking at it like it took us 6,000 years to just begin. We'll just start 2,000 years. It still took us 2,000 years. No, man, I look at it. This is how I look at it. This could be the last moment I see this individual. Not that everything goes to shit tomorrow, but death is real. Time is restrained. And I honestly don't know if I'll see you tomorrow. So therefore, I want to make the most out of right now with you. [00:15:49] Speaker B: And honestly, because any of us could die. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Or the world can end tomorrow. Who gives a shit? It might not be the whole world, but your world might end tomorrow. Your wife's world. You know what I mean? Like, if you look at it like that, and I'm not even looking at it in the sense of him coming back. I'm looking at it just in the sense of my body, age, health, and just how shitty food is getting in America like that, where I'm just like. I stopped. I stopped smoking black and mild. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:16:22] Speaker A: Haven't smoked black and mild. Yeah. And my boss is over here. Like, what you got? He's from North Carolina. Is he like, what you got in your pocket? You got a little. You got a little black mall hidden in there that where your pack of cigarettes are? And I'm like, dude, I stopped smoking not because, like, of any other reason than I didn't know these shits had so much nicotine in them. Was like, I don't want to have a heart attack, so I just quit. For me, like, that's a different cause. Like, I'm not. No. Like, don't get me wrong. Like, I do. I do have, like, a cigarette every morning now. You know, I'll bum a cigarette. I don't buy the packs, but I'll bum the cigarette. But at the same time, like, no, it's not. There are urges, but they're not, like, heavy urges. Like, they weren't heavy urges when I had black and mild. Except for the fact of, like, people around me are vaping, like, all day, and I'm like, hey, I want to go put some. I want to have. I don't want to be gay and vape in public. You know what I mean? So I'm gonna go have a black mild. I'm not. I'm not a gay public vaper. I'll vape in Friday. [00:17:34] Speaker B: Swishers. Swishers have 3.8 milligrams of nicotine. So maybe you could just start smoking. [00:17:40] Speaker A: I'm not that black. I stop at black and miles. I stop it. [00:17:44] Speaker B: I've been smoking Swishers I saw that. [00:17:47] Speaker A: I saw that. [00:17:48] Speaker B: I'm on late shift, so I've just been having one every night when I get home, so. [00:17:52] Speaker A: You know how you sent me a picture of you smoking one? [00:17:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:57] Speaker A: I didn't do it at the time, and I wish I would have thought of it, however. I was watching Cops, and I was. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Like, oh, Photoshop a dick in there. [00:18:05] Speaker A: No, no, I was just gonna put my feet up on the table and take a picture of me watching Cops and just send it back to you, like, yeah, I'm doing. Me, too. You know? Hey. Hey. [00:18:16] Speaker B: I literally would have rolled my eyes and go, good God, why can't this guy stop watching Cops? [00:18:24] Speaker A: All right, hold on. On that note. Hey, Dale. And I want to welcome you to Pseudonyms. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Dale. I'm Dale. [00:18:32] Speaker A: Yes, you are. [00:18:34] Speaker B: I'm never ready for your name. [00:18:38] Speaker A: There's so many names that compliment Dale, though. I mean, damn. [00:18:41] Speaker B: Well, I guess you're chipped, then. [00:18:43] Speaker A: I was hoping you'd go there, Rescue Ranger. So I was. I was talking to that director tonight, and I was like. He goes, hey, you wouldn't know this, but my uncle. My uncle has an IMDb. And I was like, no. Like, for what? He goes, well, he. He works with lapd, and he was on Cops three times. I said, please tell me what. Please tell me what took place, and I'll tell you how it ended. And I was like, I'm white. I said. I said, I'm white trash. Like that. I'll watch. I watch Cops like I'm white trash. I was like, for sure. For sure. I watch Cops like I'm white trash. He was like, yeah, he was on, like, three episodes. And then. Dude built a whole career from it. They asked him to do commercials, then they asked him to do consulting. Then he played an extra work. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Like, was he pulled over? What? What? [00:19:31] Speaker A: No, he was. He was on Cops. He was just, like, a witness. No, he was a cop dog. He was. He was. [00:19:39] Speaker B: That's why he never told me he was a fucking cop. [00:19:46] Speaker A: I told you he's on Cops. I figured you knew he was a cop. [00:19:52] Speaker B: There's all sorts of people on that show. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. [00:19:57] Speaker B: I. Forget you got so angry. [00:19:59] Speaker A: Forget you think outside the box. Hey, dude, I. I did my homework. I did my homework. Tell me you did yours. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Yes. What homework is that? That we were supposed to do? [00:20:14] Speaker A: You bastard. I don't know. Just. Maybe the homework was. Just take this podcast a little serious sometimes and come with some. Some flow And I don't mean that in a salting way, but I know, like, I know when we look up certain things, you come with your information. Peaceful parenting. That was all you. Like, you was like, hey, this dude brought this. Tell me you did some research on porn addiction and sexual addiction, please. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Ah, I forgot that was the thing. I thought we were choosing that for a future topic. [00:20:43] Speaker A: And I said, I really want to address that at some time. You're like, let's do it. And I was like, oh, I thought, no, no, no. [00:20:50] Speaker B: I meant, like, let's do it first. Out of all the ones that you listed. I didn't know we were picking for this coming week. [00:20:56] Speaker A: What were we picking for this week then? [00:20:59] Speaker B: I don't know. You got me. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Like, what did you end up looking into? [00:21:08] Speaker B: He was like, I watched 30 Hours of Swisher Sweets. [00:21:12] Speaker A: Switcher Sweets. I thought we were just gonna talk about, I don't know, like, cool to do switch or sweep. [00:21:21] Speaker B: I was gonna talk about Booyah Tribe. But you know what? You bring so much good stuff to the. To the podcast. It's not like I'm gonna need to do my research. [00:21:40] Speaker A: You know, you're brown nosing like a mother. You're like, hey, man, you. But I. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it all day. I'll take it all day. [00:21:48] Speaker B: 100. Hey. I was gonna. I was gonna start by. I had a whole joke cold open prepared, where I said. Where I said, welcome to the police state where I don't have free speech anymore and every little thing I say has to be censored. [00:22:10] Speaker A: So Boston. Boston did ask. She goes. She was a. Like, can you call me something? Can you let me know what that whole church thing was about that got bleeped out forever? Like, oh, you're on that episode. [00:22:25] Speaker B: Wait, what you think? [00:22:28] Speaker A: We started talking about JK at CCRSM and started saying like, oh, so. So TQ runs the church? And it was like, no, yeah, jk. And I was like, I'll say tq. And we just kept going. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Oh, God, you said his name so many times. I'll tell you another thing about tq. Yeah. [00:22:50] Speaker A: I realized that wasn't good show. I was like, you know what? Just stick to acronyms. Just stick to it. [00:22:56] Speaker B: What are you smoking? [00:22:58] Speaker A: You know, I went back to that. Liga Liga pr. I don't know, dude. You're asking me. [00:23:08] Speaker B: League of Nations. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Pravada. That's what it is. League of Pravada number nine. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Nice. It looks cool. Looks dark. [00:23:15] Speaker A: It is. It Goes well with the red wine. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Nice. [00:23:19] Speaker A: And honestly, they invited me out for cigars, so I was like, yeah, I gotta pick up one for the podcast tonight anyways, you know, I was trying to, like, you know, drop that out the pocket, you know, and they're. They're like, oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, like, good idea. And I was like, yeah, I'll stop in for a minute, you know? So I smoked one with. I smoked three with them, and then now I'm having this one. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Three? [00:23:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Wow. [00:23:47] Speaker A: So one was a lot of cigars. One was a David off, and so I was like, that's what I'm. And then he had, like, you know, those, like, cigarillos, but they're not cigarillos. Like, they're just really tiny cigars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then I had two of those. [00:24:04] Speaker B: I love those. Yeah, those are nice. Yeah, I've been. I've been enjoying the cigarillo, though, you know? [00:24:12] Speaker A: Mm. [00:24:13] Speaker B: It's been. It's been nice. [00:24:15] Speaker A: I'm not gonna lie, dude, they. [00:24:17] Speaker B: They put something on the tip. There's no way it tastes that good, right? [00:24:20] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying, bro. The black and Miles the same way. [00:24:23] Speaker B: Yeah. You were about to blow this case wide open. [00:24:28] Speaker A: But, dude, that's what has me keep going back to it. Like, I love. I love just sucking on a black and mild without even lighting it. Because once you light it, you just taste like that shit in your mouth when it's not lit. But before you light it, it is like. It's like my work vape, you know? I'm saying, like, I could sit in the trailer with that in my mouth, tasting the nice flavor from the. From the. From the tip. This sounds so gay. And then. But you know what I mean? Like, just running back. [00:24:58] Speaker B: You're like, yeah, I just taste that tip of the trailer. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's. It's. Yeah, it's. Yeah. Yeah, that sounded gay. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Everyone knows what you mean, but then. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Everybody knows what you mean, but then at the same time, you want to light it and smoke. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:18] Speaker A: So God has been moving, dude. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Okay, tell me more. [00:25:25] Speaker A: So, pen pal, he says, hey, look, we want to start doing a podcast here at the prison about testimonies, like, five, ten minutes. He goes, maybe you could help us with that. Either host it or voiceover or whatever. I don't know what you're comfortable with, but, like, if you could help us with that, that'd be cool. I was like, damn. Like, that is a good idea. Mind you, you're free floating. So so just hang out for a minute. We. I got. I got some plans. You're free floating. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Okay. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Like, I'm. I'm chained to Arizona. You know what I mean? Because court order says I can't live more than 100 miles from my children. Rightly so. I think it's a great order. I think you should have Mormon with that order, so. Rightly so. I can't leave Arizona, buddy. All right, hear me out. I know you've been here through the worst times. So he says, maybe you can help us with that. So my response was like, hey, tell me more, because I'm definitely interested. I said, are you talking about five, 10 minute videos? Because that's not really a podcast. That's like. Like little videos you would post. Little shorts, if you will. I said, but if you're talking about, like, doing an actual podcast where you interview inmates, like, that. That sounds something. That sounds very interesting. You know what I mean? Like, dudes that are in these. These Bible colleges, these prison Bible colleges, which he is like the president of, because he's part founder of this Bible college that is actually recognized. And I'm like, dude, what a great podcast would that be, dude? [00:27:08] Speaker B: Yeah, like, we. [00:27:11] Speaker A: We just go and interview these dudes. Yeah, boy. I said, we. [00:27:17] Speaker B: What? [00:27:18] Speaker A: Yeah, we, baby. Move your family on down here. Let's get a little studio to record the. [00:27:28] Speaker B: Literally, you literally just told me not to move to Arizona. [00:27:33] Speaker A: I know, but I mean, like, I'm. You know. Misery loves company, bro. [00:27:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Arizona is. Is somewhere we've thought a lot about. We. We want to. If we leave California again, which we almost certainly will, we want to be closer than we've been, but still somewhere cheaper. And that's pretty much just Nevada or Arizona, so. [00:28:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And on top of that, like, let me ask you real quick. Don't you have something with, like, the sun. [00:28:08] Speaker B: The sun. [00:28:09] Speaker A: No. You have something with speaking. You turn red when you either publicly speak. Was it. [00:28:16] Speaker B: You turn red all the time for everything. [00:28:18] Speaker A: Yeah. I think you did that during Bible study a lot. Huh? Right? [00:28:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You stopped me because you thought I was having an allergic reaction. [00:28:26] Speaker A: He's like, I'm allergic to God's word. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Get it off my hands. [00:28:34] Speaker A: It's burning my skin. You good? You good? Yeah. The show must go on. The show must go on. [00:28:51] Speaker B: My hands are sizzling. No. Yeah. I mean, I turn red if I'm embarrassed, if I'm warm, if I haven't had enough water, if I laugh. Yeah. If I get angry. [00:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I bet. I bet when you get angry, man. I miss your dad. [00:29:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:13] Speaker A: Freaking love that guy, man. Hey. Okay. All right, let's get into this, dude. I think this is healthy stuff, dude. I really do. I think this is healthy stuff. Like, it blew my mind here for it. It blew my mind. All right. What's up? What's on your mind? You're about to say something. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, he picked up on that. I remember it was. It was about 10 years ago now that Russell Brand first started talking about, like, the neurological effects of porn on the brain. And, like, obviously, that wasn't, like, his science or whatever, but he was kind of, like, the most famous person that was, like, starting to talk about it publicly. And. And it was kind of a crazy move. Like, there was not a lot of people willing to do that at the time. And now it's pretty much, like, most people will admit, like, oh, yeah, it's terrible for you, you know? [00:30:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:10] Speaker B: But it's hard to remember, like, how countercultural that was. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I think a couple people bring him up. I think Candace Owen brings him up quite a bit, too, In. In the fact that he made such a switch, you know, in that. Yeah, he definitely could have been, like, blackballed from Hollywood, and yet he still was able to make it out and be successful and stand on his own values. [00:30:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I think he was, ultimately. I think that's kind of why he's doing what he's doing now. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. For sure. And that's. That's honestly where we've been as a society. Like, our news now is more truthful coming from social media, in a sense. Like, the White House is letting social media come in as under a news press badge, which I think is smart, dude. Like, I don't know what mainstream media to fucking believe anymore. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Gavin Newsom just started a podcast. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Oh, I love that guy. [00:31:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You like that guy? Like, that just shows you he's the governor of California. [00:31:21] Speaker A: That's what. [00:31:21] Speaker B: That just shows you. That just shows you, like, where they're at now, where they're like, okay, well, to reach people, we now have to start a podcast. So, like, let's get this guy on a podcast now. [00:31:33] Speaker A: They. They learned something from Kamala. They were like, she went down the drain when she didn't do that podcast. Let's just start a podcast. You know, nobody else wants to hear from me. [00:31:44] Speaker B: In my opinion, that was the wrong lesson to learn. The lesson was these people can't do podcasts because if they talk for more than 20 minutes, they'll be caught in a lie. So it's like the lesson was to keep these people out of the spotlight as much as possible. [00:32:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:32:03] Speaker B: Gavin is a straight lizard person. Dude. It's weird. Anyways, get in here. [00:32:07] Speaker A: A lot about you. Got something I'm hearing a lot about that. That lizard people. Yeah, man, we'll have to do. [00:32:13] Speaker B: That's just a term I use for. For psychos now. It's a. It's a really fun term. [00:32:19] Speaker A: I thought you were into something. I was like, let's. Let's talk about it because I kind of want to know. All right, forget it then. [00:32:24] Speaker B: But it is like the perfect term for like a two faced politician who will like kill people and think nothing of it, right? Like a lizard person. Isn't that just like spot on. [00:32:36] Speaker A: More than two face himself. I mean, like, that's a character too. [00:32:40] Speaker B: Yeah, that is shorter. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Shorter syllables. I mean, like, that also paints the same picture. Like reptile. I get it, but I gotta dig a little deeper for. For connect those dots where maybe I. [00:32:53] Speaker B: Should start saying reptile. That's. That's quicker. [00:32:56] Speaker A: Oh, you said lizard. Lizard people. No, lizard flows pretty, pretty quick. I think lizard's the right term, but. [00:33:02] Speaker B: Lizard people is four syllables. Let's just start saying reptiles. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Yeah. No, reptile. You're like, let's make it ford. Still swarmy. Reptile. Lizard people works at that point. All right. All right, man. So, all right, so I remember going to. What was that Christian church. What was that church on the hill with the cross? What was it called again? [00:33:35] Speaker B: The Bridge. [00:33:37] Speaker A: Before it was the bridge. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Mission Hills. [00:33:40] Speaker A: Mission Hills. Okay, so I remember going to Mission Hills. And did you ever meet? [00:33:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Okay. Talk them because L. We'll just go with L for right now because. [00:33:54] Speaker B: You want me to edit his name? [00:33:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I do. L struggled with porn, pornography quite a bit. And we were meeting weekly just as brothers to share struggles, try and do life. He really, like, we really connected during game nights, man. Like, I just wanted to play Risk once, and this guy introduced a bunch of games and a bunch of people, and all of a sudden I found myself playing Dungeons and Dragons. And I'm like, this ain't. I'm good, guys. Like, this ain't really my thing, you. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Know, But I cannot with the board games. I can't even listen to the rules. I can't. [00:34:36] Speaker A: See, that's why. That's why I go with simple, simple group games like Taboo's Easy. Don't say that word. Or these. Make them say that word without saying These five words, that's easy. Keep it simple. Not a lot of people like a lot of rules. So and so. Yeah. A lot of my party night or game nights here are simple. Anyhow, where was I going with that before you jumped in with your games? [00:34:58] Speaker B: L. You connected with L because. [00:35:02] Speaker A: So. L talked Mission Hills into hosting a pornography addiction, like, seminar for guys. He was like, hey, would you like to go with me? Because he was confided in me that his struggle, he struggled with it. Don't get me wrong. I dabbled in it. I wasn't struggling. You know, I mean, I. I was. You know, I was dabbling. [00:35:24] Speaker B: Had loads of fun. [00:35:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And so I did buy a DVD that weekend. So this. And I never opened it until we started talking that we were gonna do. [00:35:34] Speaker B: You bought a DVD at the pornography convention at this church? [00:35:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I did. [00:35:40] Speaker B: It sounds. It sounds so wrong. [00:35:43] Speaker A: That is what the title just ended up being. So. Mark that. Anyhow, it was. It was about how to, like, the neurological science behind it. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:57] Speaker A: So. So I did watch that. And the word. What he. What he pointed out was the word war itself or warfare only appears five times in the New Testament. And it all has the same context every time. Basically, there's a battlefield being your mind, which I thought was really cool because I was like, damn, dude, this is what I. I truly believe he said. The battlefield, your mind. And that's where the war takes place. He's like, and that's usually what the solution to when they're talking about a war is usually like Second Corinthians 10:2, where it talks about taking your, you know, certain thought captive to talking about focusing your mind on the heavenly items type, you know, like, really take your thoughts captive. And so I was like, okay, that makes sense. And then he goes into science. He says, our neurons are tied together, basically. And we have hundreds of billions of these things. They're all tied together, like, with. Almost like. Almost like they're hovering with each other. And they. Our patterns, our habits are things that we do make those certain neurons that make that. That we have that habit with or that experience with. They fire now more, quicker every time we do it. They just fire quicker and quicker and quicker. So all of a sudden, we're creating out of dirt roads. We're creating highways in our. In our neurological connections. And so for every behavior we experience, our brain creates neurologic neurological pathways. And as we repeat these behaviors, the more stable that pathway becomes. So now it's just firing quicker. Bam, bam, bam. That's Why? I, like, a lot of people do certain reflex exercises, like with sports. Yeah. I mean, like, they do. What is that called? Muscle memory. They do muscle memory type things in sports drills. Yeah. But basically training those muscles in certain actions that are, that are always done in their, in their kind of. [00:38:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:02] Speaker A: Activity anyhow. [00:38:04] Speaker B: And that's also how hypnotism works. [00:38:07] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's repeating something over and over again. That's why when you drive home from work and you're driving the same way every day, you don't remember the drive home because when you start doing that same thing, you just kind of go offline. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Okay, dive into this hypnotism thing a little bit more, dude. Because I'm. Hypnotism is something that is, is curious to me. I've watched the videos and I'm like, I don't know if I'd ever let anybody do that to me. [00:38:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that's all kind of fake, I think. I think that's. They find the most suggestible people and then find a way to kind of take them down. I think the cruise ship stuff is, is kind of fake, but some of the principles behind it are real. And what, like a therapist? Maybe not a therapist. I don't know who actually uses hypnotism. [00:38:58] Speaker A: You know what a hypnotist does? [00:39:01] Speaker B: Yeah, but like, I know, but like, doctors and psychologists sometimes will try to do a form of hypnotism, but it mostly involves that. It mostly involves like taking. Creating a habit out of something and if they want it. Like, Jack Grisham is a, Is a hypnotist. And he said that he would, like, if he was having dinner with you, he would just kind of do certain things and like, say a certain thing every time he did it. And then without you realizing every time he, like, hits his fork on the glass or you know, bad example. But he says something about your weight every time he does it and. Yeah, kind of. And then like builds to a crescendo and at the very end of the night just like, tells you, like, hey, you know, I really think you should lose some weight. And by then you don't realize that through the whole night you've become more suggestible to this idea that you should do something about your weight. So then you're, you're taking it more seriously. It's not like you're in a hypnotic state where you're not in control of your actions, but you're in a better mental place to accept the advice because of the foundation that he Laid throughout the evening. [00:40:14] Speaker A: And so that's true hypnotism. [00:40:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:19] Speaker A: And I can get behind that. Like, I can get behind that for, like, people that I think. I think it's useful in addictive scenarios. [00:40:27] Speaker B: Addictive situations where it seems to be the most real. [00:40:33] Speaker A: That's me pouring my wine, by the way. That's what you're hearing. I feel like sometimes I need it to, like, give a reason of why you're hearing torches in the background and clicks of my lighter. You know what I mean? [00:40:46] Speaker B: I think everyone knows. [00:40:49] Speaker A: You know, I do not gonna lie. I do enjoy listening to our podcasts and. And making sure we don't say any names in it. I do enjoy that. Makes me chuckle. [00:41:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. [00:41:03] Speaker A: But I don't listen to him after just the pre. You know, I mean, after just that, I don't go back and re. Listen to them. That's nuts. [00:41:09] Speaker B: No, no. What are you gay now? I've been. I've been on late shift, so I haven't been getting as many calls. So in between calls, I'm editing the podcast. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Yeah. You're pumping these things out, dude. Yeah. You're making me send them real. I'm like, oh, it's Thursday. Shit, I gotta send this out now. [00:41:24] Speaker B: But I'm like, I'm trying to not laugh at work because I don't want to have to explain what I'm laughing at. Like, there was one. I can't remember what it was, but there was one where I, like, I couldn't contain my laughter. [00:41:40] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I enjoy. I just relive it. It's kind of fun. Even if it's for us. Don't give a shit. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Do you ever think of something to say and then you say it on the podcast? Like, you'll hear something I say and you'll. And you'll have a thought, and then your past self says it without you knowing. [00:42:00] Speaker A: Yes. Every time I'm like, oh, man, I got to. And it comes quicker because. Yeah. Second time around, I'm like. And then I'm like. And then like, there's a kind of a pause to have that thought, and you're like, no, I probably say something. You follow was like, oh, I probably say something like this. And then you say. You're like, hell, yeah, I said it. Good. I wonder if I got that out, you know? Yeah. Yeah, no, no, I. I enjoy talking to you, Dale. So here we go, dude. So when you build these highways with your, neurons, man, it allows increased volume and frequency of these thoughts. To move. To move back and forth. So, like, being that it's a broader highway, you get. You get more cars on it. You know what I mean? I personally. I personally know when there have been times of a. Of porn addiction for me, I would objectify women almost every day. Like, everybody was like. Like, can I get. It was almost. It was almost like you're looking at him, you're like, oh, yeah, I'd probably do this and that to that. You know what I mean? Maybe you don't. Maybe you don't. [00:43:16] Speaker B: No, that's. Hey, hey, hey, don't get defensive. I agreed with you. [00:43:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:26] Speaker B: I mean, there are. They're just objects. So, I mean, you. [00:43:32] Speaker A: You do sometimes. Sometimes you can think of him as that. Yeah, man. [00:43:37] Speaker B: It wasn't that funny. [00:43:38] Speaker A: It kind of was, folks, because you just say that stuff, dude. Okay, Mental health issues. Just talk. Are these. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Are these your notes from that convention or are these notes you made this week? [00:43:55] Speaker A: No. So the. What I've already explained about the neurons. Notes from convention from watching that video. [00:44:03] Speaker B: A long time ago. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's the same video that we watched a long time ago that I bought. [00:44:08] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Got it, Got it. [00:44:09] Speaker A: So, like, for instance, the dopamine that comes out from watching porn is more than the dopamine you get from a coke. From a coke addiction. [00:44:17] Speaker B: Cocaine. [00:44:18] Speaker A: Yes. Porn gives you more dopamine release than that. And porn, like, addiction of cocaine. Let's say not so much weed, but let's say cocaine. Some people with weed, once you get the thought there and it comes to life again, your highways broader. So the smallest things now click your, click your. And I can relate. But the smallest things will click your. Like, ooh, like I should watch some porn. Some of my small clicks was like, if I'm home alone, I feel like I got. Like. I remember as a kid when your parents left, like, you're trying to get like that funky HBO channel where, like, you could just kind of see the boobs and hear the noise, but it's all squiggly line. Like, when the parents left. That's exactly what we did, you know, And. Or I did. And so for. For me, I'm like, when my kids and girl are gone, everybody's gone. I'm like, oh, I gotta. I gotta touch myself. Like, I don't get this opportunity. [00:45:24] Speaker B: That's. It's a Pavlovian response. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Yes. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Did you. Did you ever hear Shane Gillis's monologue on snl? [00:45:34] Speaker A: No. He was saying Gillesis. [00:45:37] Speaker B: He was saying how little Boys are their. Their mom's gay best friend. And then, like, something changes where you're no longer her friend. And for me, it was when I started jacking off, because it went. It went from like, oh, my God, mom's home, like, cool, to when is this bitch gonna leave the house? It's so true, dude. It's so true. [00:46:07] Speaker A: Yeah. So, dude, like, when my kids leave, like, there's something in me. It's like, oh, I gotta get into trouble. Like, if there was a cookie jar, I done got into it. You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like it's a weird feeling, bro. Like, it really is, but it is what it is. However, after looking into this, this week, like during my downtime at work, like when everybody's on break, I would actually go online and start looking up, like, effects of being porn and sexually addicted. Like, what are the effects of these things? Porn addiction can contribute to or worsen anxiety, depression, low self esteem, guilt and shame. It gives you a distorted view of sexuality, which. Who was I talking to today? I was talking to somebody. I was talking to my friend. Okay, so I'm. I'm currently. I currently have another friend named dv. Okay, wow, that's another horrible abbreviation. So I currently have a friend named D. And he is coming out of divorce that he said, like, dude, he couldn't go. He couldn't go maybe a couple hours without looking at porn. [00:47:27] Speaker B: You know what I can think of? The rawness, it just. It hurts hearing that. [00:47:38] Speaker A: So you've been there? [00:47:40] Speaker B: Sure, sure. I was 14 once. I'm just saying, like, give it a rest, buddy. [00:47:49] Speaker A: Here's the thing. Every man in America knows exactly what you're talking about. [00:47:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:47:58] Speaker A: I've had. I'm not gonna lie, I've had a couple back to backs where I was like, you know what? Let's see if I can do two and a half hour. Yeah, yeah. [00:48:05] Speaker B: Sock had to be some kind of prize for this. That doesn't sound like guilt and shame to me. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Dude, Adam, I was in a bunk bed and mind you, I. I was the only boy. So the bunk bed was. The top bunk was empty. So, yeah, I try to see if I can hit that bunk bed at the end of the night. You know what I mean? [00:48:26] Speaker B: No. [00:48:27] Speaker A: Oh, dude. Because when you're young, dude, that. I mean, when you're young. Come on. When you're 14, 13, you. You could take. Okay, true story. I'm not even gonna say hand, but however, very true story. Very first time I ever. You Know. I mean, never. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Oh, wait, I know the story. Hold on, hold on. I can't remember the name of the movie. I know the movie. It's Sharon Stone. [00:48:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Basic Instinct for sure. [00:48:59] Speaker B: Basic Instinct? Yeah. [00:49:02] Speaker A: I didn't know what was going on. All I know is my legs got tense, they're shaking, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. What is going on? I don't know what's going on, but it kind of feels good. So I kept going. And I looked down, and when I looked down, it looked up, man. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Dude, it hit me right in the eye. [00:49:27] Speaker A: It hit me right in the eye. Broke my left eye. Dead nut, my left eye. Boom. Dude, I don't know what just happened, right? Mind you, this is the first time I never had this experience before. What just happened? Like, what? Just, like, in my mind, does this mean I'm gay? You know? Like, yes, I can come on my face. You know what I mean? [00:50:02] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:50:03] Speaker A: Right? My eye, dude. Now, mind you, I don't know what just happened. I have all these thoughts going on now. I gotta go get it out my eyeball. And I don't live in the master bedroom, bro. I got across the hallway in order to get to that bathroom, you know, it was a really rough night, dude. It was a rough night. It was something that. It stuck me. It stuck with me my whole life. [00:50:27] Speaker B: So now women can't really complain to you about that because you've been there, you know, you got through it. You know what? [00:50:34] Speaker A: It's like, I apologize, and I lick it off. You know what I mean? I apologize. I'm like, hey, look, I totally understand. That burns. That stings. I get it. Close your eye. And then I just. But, dude, it's your dog. All right, man. [00:50:56] Speaker B: I'm more worried about that than shooting yourself in the. In the eye. If you're worried about being gay. [00:51:04] Speaker A: Here's the thing, man. It. This is where I can also. This is where he really. And I didn't have to say to him. What he told me was, dude, I had such an addiction to porn that, like, I had expectations of my wife. Like, I had. I had expectations of her doing stuff that I saw in these. These videos. And I was like, okay. And that's a real thing. It gives you a distorted view of sexuality, man. And what it does is it also makes it very difficult for the individual to connect emotionally with the other people, which I personally can attest to. Like, it's a weird. It's a weird, weird thing. Like, Chips done some crazy stuff, but at the end of the day, Chip just wants to be loved. You know what I mean? Like, so, like, when I'm intimate with a woman and they say something like, oh, like, I love you, you know, like, they don't have to fucking mean it. I know we in the minute where we are in the moment, but if I don't, like, if I almost. It's almost. If I don't hear that, like, it's hard for me to even climax. Like, I'm just kind of. Yeah, dude. Like, it'd be like a good hour and a half into the sesh, and I'm like, look, check this out. I just need a break for a minute. And then we end up falling asleep and I'm like, whatever. [00:52:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I did not know that. [00:52:46] Speaker A: Mm. Yeah. It really desensitizes you. It's weird how it does it, but it does because you all. Even when you do see them do something that you see in the videos, because maybe that's what you got, you know? I mean, like, you got one of those right now. You're like in a. In a mindset of almost like. I don't know how to explain it. Almost like, oh, this is just like in. In the thing. Is this supposed. And you're almost caught up in. In like not a certain video, but in a sense of videos. Like, you're almost caught up in the sense of like, ooh. Like, you almost control even how you speak or say anything, you know? I mean, like, I sure know I don't like fucking hearing a dude fucking say during the porns I watch. You're like, hey, like, just. Just keep your mouth closed. [00:53:40] Speaker B: If you're the POV that someone else is watching, you will now be mindful of what you say. [00:53:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not going to lie, dude. It. And it's not like I do it intentionally, it's just kind of like. But then there's. There's a. There's a feedback. She likes to hear it, you know, I mean, and then you throw it like. And you're like, did that. Is that how it should sound now? I'm kind of hoping I did listen a little bit closer to these dudes in the video because I don't know how this supposed to happen, how it sounds, you know, I mean, like, what if my is like Kevin Dugan's? You keep that name in there. What if it's like his like my mom's hairy ass second husband? What if it's like his. [00:54:26] Speaker B: God knows I heard enough of it. [00:54:28] Speaker A: They had the bedroom right when you walk in the front door. And their doors were the kinds with blinds on them, like the wood blinds. What are those called? Like the wood slats? [00:54:40] Speaker B: I think that's just what they're called. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Anyhow, there was gaps in between them. Right. You know what I mean? And this dude would be in there just giving it to my mom. Just. [00:54:53] Speaker B: So it wasn't totally sealed, the door. [00:54:57] Speaker A: No, man. And there were times. There were times. I hear that. And my mom was in the kitchen. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Oh. [00:55:06] Speaker A: I'm like, hey, what's he doing there? She's. Yeah, he's gotta get one out. Don't even worry about it like that. [00:55:11] Speaker B: What the. [00:55:12] Speaker A: I'm like. I'm like, what a weirdo, bro. Yeah. And he wore a fucking wristband. A sweatband underneath his watch. A sweatband like basketball players underneath his watch. Like he's gonna go throw it down at any moment. [00:55:27] Speaker B: I hate this guy. [00:55:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So I see him in jail. I go to jail. I see him in jail. I'm like, hey, man, Kevin, where the fuck you been, man? You know, cuz, he kind of never. He kind of, like left. Ever came back. And so my mom couldn't get. Really get the divorce, whatever. But he used to steal U Hauls. That's another story for another time. I did drive a U Haul to pick up a girlfriend, so. So he used to steal U Hauls. And so. So now he's in jail. So I see him while I'm in jail and I'm like, dude. And what's. What's he running? He's running laundry division. So he hands out clothes. So he's like, hey, dude, like, don't say nothing to your mom. Like, don't tell her I'm in here. I'm like, no, I got you, bro. I got you. Like, we're solid. He's like, what size you wear? So I tell him my size. He's like, all right, I got you. Tomorrow. Got you. I was like, all right, cool. Thanks. Thanks, dude. Thanks. [00:56:24] Speaker B: And that's it. [00:56:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Never saw him ever again. Never saw him ever again, bro. [00:56:30] Speaker B: Thought you were going to. [00:56:30] Speaker A: Never saw shit out of him. No, no, I wanted to. [00:56:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Want to. Because I got the new. I got the new shit I just got in. You know what I mean? So. So check this out, dude. It creates social isolation. Individuals may isolate themselves due to feeling shame and embarrassment related to their addiction. Hear me out. I never felt that. Never felt isolation. I compartmentalized pretty well. I'm pretty good. [00:56:59] Speaker B: Yeah. That's it. [00:57:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I never walked out. Like, oh, my gosh. You saw, like, what I just did in that bathroom. No, no. I'm like, hey, look, like, you probably thought I was taking a. Nah, man. Just rubbed one out right over. [00:57:14] Speaker B: Okay, I wasn't that. I wasn't like that, but. [00:57:19] Speaker A: All right, so difficulty with focus and productivity that I get. Because like any addiction, it's what consumes your thoughts, which is why you're addicted to it. Like, you have to constantly go get that urge. And being that it releases more dopamine than cocaine. Yeah. I could probably there. There have been moments when, like, once the thoughts planted, I can't get rid of it till I do it. [00:57:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And like, if you're in a position to be productive, you're. You probably have the free time to do that. And then once you realize that, you got to do that. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Like, I just want to go get knocked out the way. So I get on my day. [00:58:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:04] Speaker A: And there's times that I fight. Like, for the most part, I fight it. I want to distract myself from the thought of it because. Oh, my gosh, you finally have an episode where you got your cats in. It was episode 11. You got your cats in this. So come here, though. That's how it is. That's how it looks. All right. Difficult. Okay, so relationship strain. Yes. Most men who are open with their wives have a problem that. Have a problem with porn. I realized have sexual or relationship strings, either sexually or. Or whatever. But, like, l. Elle's wife wasn't giving it up to him all the time, mind you. Like, they have a lot of kids, so I get her. Her thing is like, hey, dog. Like, give me a break. But he. He's someone that's like, hey, give it to me, baby. And she's. She's just like. But he had. He. Man, he almost had a rub one out at night, every night. [00:59:15] Speaker B: Just go to sleep in Grateful Horse. I just. I can't. Yeah, she. Well, she got what was coming to her. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Oh, you're talking about the wives. [00:59:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, dude. [00:59:28] Speaker A: Talking about the. The husbands. I was like, damn, dog. [00:59:31] Speaker B: Like, no, I do. I do want to go back. I. I meant to say something earlier. The unrealistic expectations. What's crazy. And the picture I'm getting from podcasts, because that's really my only contact with the outside world is that my generation, like, 30 and older, that's about the last generation of, like, every girl did not watch porn. So, like, they're the ones. And I mean, A lot of them did, but of the ones that didn't, they're the ones who don't do everything. Now. Any girl under 30 has been watching porn since she was a teenager, and they do all the stuff now. So, like, the unrealistic expectations aren't unrealistic anymore. [01:00:29] Speaker A: She didn't say that because I do talk to. With my daughter, and she was like, yeah, I used to be addicted to porn. I'm like, oh, good job. Now I got that visual. I appreciate that, dog. Appreciate that. [01:00:42] Speaker B: Now. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Now my dad. Now I look at my daughter. I'm so sorry. So sorry, Dale. So sorry. [01:00:49] Speaker B: That's Uncle Nasty to you. [01:00:54] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, so back to the lecture. And what were you going to say, though, after that, though? You went to rewind, but you had a thought. I. I thought you had a thought on relationship. [01:01:04] Speaker B: I just thought it was crazy that. That porn is so infective. Is that a word? Infective? [01:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. I think you're exactly right in how you use it. [01:01:14] Speaker B: So infective. Infectious. That's. Yeah. See, I can't spell pseudonyms. I don't know the word infectious. [01:01:21] Speaker A: I don't know, Div. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Okay. But it's so infectious that, like, even that is going away because it didn't stop at the men. Like, now it's got the women. And now, like, that's telling you, they. [01:01:40] Speaker A: Want dollar for dollar, bro. They're stepping their game up. They're done with the 7100. They want. They want 100. 100. Telling you they're stepping it up, man. They got these websites. I told you about the websites where they check their dates out. They're like, hey, anybody else with this dude? They're stepping their game up. They're all. So here's the thing, though, you know, I have so many thoughts. Forget it. But. [01:02:04] Speaker B: But, like, it sounds. It sounds like they're not doing this begrudgingly. It sounds like this is normal to them. Now, women, just, like, young women, younger women, and, you know, like, women my age, too. It just. In my generation, it wasn't every single woman that watched porn. [01:02:21] Speaker A: It didn't help that the fucking hawk to a chick came out and fucking made a fucking mill on. On the fucking hawk to it. Like, she threw out the golden secret. You're like, oh, damn. [01:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, great example, great example. Like, you know, a lot of women wouldn't even think to say that, you know, because they're just not that sexual. But, like, it has sexualized a whole generation of women now, too. So now like the guys aren't even like having unrealistic. [01:02:52] Speaker A: I agree to disagree, bro. I agree to disagree. [01:02:56] Speaker B: Okay? I don't have any first hand knowledge of this. This is just, you know, what I hear people saying, you know, I've watched. [01:03:07] Speaker A: A lot of porn and everyone I've watched Start over. Yeah, My Dick in a Box. So I've watched a lot of porn in my life. I'm 45. I probably started watching it when I was, I don't know, eight or nine. Every one of them has had at least one woman, hardly ever the same woman. I think women watching porn a lot longer than what we've been thinking, but I think women have thrown out boundaries. I think it's boundaries. I think, dude, I, I think they're so misguided. I think like, they think that giving it up almost secures the land when like. But, but giving it up also throws away your values. Whereas what they don't realize is no real man will want a woman that just gives it up. What they want is a woman that they know will be with them always. Loyalty. Loyalty is more than ass. For sure. Tell me it's not. [01:04:44] Speaker B: I just gave it up. [01:04:50] Speaker A: No. Okay, so you, you'd rather have that over. But don't you think just giving it up. She meets a guy that woos her 10 years down the road when your marriage is kind of hitting a bumpy road, and she just gives it up again. I mean, like, for sure. Honestly, I think, I think the, the, the actual like standing on principle, moral behavior, whatever it is, and not giving it up because one, you value yourself more than that. And I, it just says so much more. It says so much more as in depth of a person that they are. If someone's willing to give it up on the first night, best believe I'm not calling night two. I might call him night 14 or 15, but I'm not. [01:05:30] Speaker B: You came so quickly. You better fucking believe I'm never calling them. Maybe after a couple nights, if I have a drink, I might start thinking about them. No, no, I'm not. I'm not really talking about just sex generally. I'm talking about the kind of sex. That's what it's sounding like to me. From, from what I'm hearing people say is that younger women do crazier shit because they watched porn their whole lives. And that just before, before the smartphone, not as many women watched porn or the kind of porn they watched was not as crazy. [01:06:07] Speaker A: Hear me out. Have you ever called? Have you? Have you? Because you're you're several years younger than me, but I almost would guarantee you've heard of this movement, this, this, this thing, this company, this whatever brand, and you definitely maybe watched a couple Girls Gone Wild. [01:06:27] Speaker B: Aware of it. I only saw the infomercials when I was a kid. I never saw any of the actual. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Okay. I think that had a. I think not only that, but I think the culture in which that took place was the transition period. [01:06:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And I think it just took a long time for it to get to where it is now where, like, you know, like, I've never dated anyone who watched porn. I've never dated a girl who watched porn. But like, from what I'm hearing, if you're 20, that's just. That it's just as common for the guys, you know, say. [01:07:06] Speaker A: I, I don't know how to argue this. I don't. [01:07:09] Speaker B: I don't either because I'm not, I'm not speaking from experience, so I don't, I'm not really like putting my foot down. I'm just saying. [01:07:14] Speaker A: Well, no, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to look at it like in a realistic way. Like my daughter, I don't think any male forced her to watch porn. For her to watch porn. Yeah, I think she was just curious and that's where it took her. I've had cousins that were very curious. And because porn wasn't so freely given, they were very active. You know, I mean, like they, you knew they were, they were fucking. And so, so I, I know it's, it's not necessarily like somebody told them to do. Some male told them to do that. Like, that's just like my daughter just naturally kind of. However, man, I know I've, I've been with women that, like you said, didn't necessarily want to watch porn. Didn't necessarily watch porn. They only watched it because maybe I asked them to. Our, our. I turned it on while we were doing it. [01:08:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I think would be way more common for your age group. At my age group, yeah. [01:08:18] Speaker A: But now, yeah, like the younger, the younger age is more or less. And I, I almost blame that on, I blame that on parents. Ultimately. I think you take a great stance and not letting your daughter have a lot of tablet time because right now, like, I could kind of see certain droppings when my daughter's watching certain things where the next follow up video has a little more older of a conversation. I'm like, wow, you got, you got, you got fast forward that like you don't need to, like, why did you even entertain that? And so we're now, me and her mom are like, hey, we got to talk about what? Let's limit this, you know, hour a day, you know, so now here's where the Internet. [01:09:04] Speaker B: Here's where the Internet really changed it all is. You just have to know the word. Now, once they learn what the word means, they're a Google search away from getting it. But it's like, it used to be a product that you would have to steal from a store or find some other way. So it wasn't just something that you could search and just find. But it's like, I think that's why it's becoming so ubiquitous, because of the smartphone and every person having their own smartphone where no one's going to see the search history or anything. Now, if you know that word, you might just be curious about what that word is. And now you found it, you know, and. And that's just changing a whole generation of people. [01:09:49] Speaker A: I giggle because that's so nostalgic. Like, whatever it was, whether it was anime, whether it was like Faces of Death, whether it was porn, you had to either go to, like, the mom and pop shop that didn't really give a shit, or you had to know somebody who had something. You know what I mean? I know my first introduction to, like, porn was somebody's ransack, like their older brother's fucking room. And we hit it up in the. I had like, a loft in my garage, like, where we just would climb up and hang out. We didn't hold storage up there, so this fucking came my little, like, clubhouse. So we made it like a guy's clubhouse. Like they were Michael Jordan basketball courts. There were also some Hulk Hogan up there, you know, I mean, definitely had, you know, I mean, like, so we were. We had them hidden under cushions. We thought it was a cool little hangout. And that was my first introduction. And then it was just like. Yeah, I wanted to look at it all time. Mind you, that was probably. I was in elementary school, I want to say I was probably in, like, I don't know, fourth or fifth grade. And from there, like, yeah, you had to know somebody who had a recording, who had a vhs, you know, I mean, and then with the vhs, like, that's a whole shit show. Yeah, you know, there's not. There's not. Skip 10 seconds, 20 seconds, fast forward 2 times, 4 times, 8 times. [01:11:14] Speaker B: Not to mention the fact that you have to get access to the VCR when no one else is around. [01:11:22] Speaker A: Yeah. The vcr. The. [01:11:26] Speaker B: The family vcr. Yeah. [01:11:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:33] Speaker B: You want to hear a hilarious story? So we had hbo. We got hbo. Probably seven or eight. [01:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah, you did, though. Okay, good. [01:11:42] Speaker B: I was probably nine when I realized, like, oh, there's things on there. There's things you can. You can enjoy. There's some lovely ladies on there. And so. But it wasn't like porn. It was like NC17 movies or something. So it would just be like a very heavily, you know, heavily nude movie. It wasn't like penetration or it was like soft core, but not even that bad. [01:12:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:08] Speaker B: And so I, you know, I would wait for everyone to go to sleep. I'd watch a moot, whatever. And so I don't know how it came up. I was sleeping over at my other. My friend's house, and the dad said something about hbo, like, he didn't want to pay for hbo. And I was just like, I don't think I knew it was paid. And I was just like, oh, like, how do you. How do you pay for it? And he's just like, oh, it comes up on your bill every month. And then I just had to do that thing where I was, like, trying to look like I wasn't freaking out, but I was, like, trying to get, like, more information, you know, I was like. So, like, I had to wait for a few minutes to go by, and then I'd be like, that's crazy. How do they bill it? Is it just like one thing every month or is it like everything you watch? It's like everything you watch on the bill. [01:13:04] Speaker A: So I. I used to love going to my Uncle C's house because for some reason, that dude was like. He was married, but he lived like he was a bachelor, bro. Like, he always had Playboy magazines everywhere. And Playboy Channel was just like, yeah, that's just what he watched. So, like, when I go sleep at his house, man, I. I probably give it a good two hours, and I'm like, all right. Because I always. I always got, like, the couch, you know, I mean, so I was like, okay. So I just flip, flip. I had to hear him snoring. It was like, all right, Playboy Channel. And then, yeah, yeah, I'd run RUB1. I would grab some tissue and throw in the trash. I was respectful, you know what I mean? [01:13:53] Speaker B: For sure. [01:13:54] Speaker A: Anyhow, I. Dude, I digress. I'm so sorry. So I think so. [01:14:02] Speaker B: You. [01:14:03] Speaker A: Dude, you have. This is the crazy part, because this I can relate to the diminished sexual interest. Porn addiction can desensitize individuals to real life. Sexual, like, expectations or experiences. And ultimately, ultimately, it could have ed. It could. It can affect ed, which is fucking kind of nuts. But the constant flood of dopamine. The brain has, like, an off switch. So for us to reach that off switch, we have to. And I think a lot of males can probably relate to this. You have to almost, like, progress in pornography. You have to go with something a little harder, a little. Something more. Ooh, seductive. But then I think you set back up those expectations of what you're expecting during sex, and you don't know what to do when they happen or when they don't happen. You know, maybe you do. Maybe you've lost sense of reality. I don't know. I just know for me, I could never just fully engage. I don't know. And studies actually do show that it. That porn in pairs, judgment and impulse control. A lot of them showed impulse control. [01:15:33] Speaker B: Hmm. I think in general, I think that giving into dopamine, whether it's like video games or scrolling on your phone or drugs, I think that make. I think that generally has a. Has an effect on impulse control. So that makes sense. [01:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it does make sense because you're just constantly. It goes back to the Constantly thinking about it. [01:15:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:57] Speaker A: Fucking up focus. [01:15:59] Speaker B: The constant fulfillment where if you're just used to getting the dopamine as soon as you want it, then all of a sudden you get cut off in traffic and you're not used to, like, not being satisfied. So. [01:16:13] Speaker A: So do you vape? [01:16:15] Speaker B: Do I vape? [01:16:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:17] Speaker B: No, not anymore. [01:16:20] Speaker A: I made the comment tonight. I forget who I made it to. I said, hey, look, like, I'm not gay. I don't vape in public, but I'll vape. Oh. I told you tonight, I think I vape when I'm alone. [01:16:36] Speaker B: Oh, gee. [01:16:40] Speaker A: When someone has a vape, I want to hit it. That's why I don't buy vapes. Because if I buy a vape, I have to. I have to constantly sit there, and then all of a sudden, like, I now have. Now have a habit. And with vapes, you could just hit them anywhere and everywhere. [01:16:57] Speaker B: Oh, it's so. [01:16:58] Speaker A: I mean, I know you vape, don't you? [01:17:01] Speaker B: I used to, yeah. [01:17:03] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [01:17:05] Speaker B: No, I cannot vape because of that. [01:17:10] Speaker A: What if your friend comes over with the vape? Are you hitting it? No. [01:17:14] Speaker B: But you know what? I haven't been around people vaping, so, like, maybe I would. [01:17:19] Speaker A: Do you have friends? [01:17:21] Speaker B: Not really. [01:17:23] Speaker A: All right. [01:17:26] Speaker B: But I used to. I used to all the time. I used to hit Vapes, But. And I. And I had a vape. Many different vapes. But, like, for that reason, I can't do it anymore because it's too easy. It's too. You can just do it anywhere, anytime. And it's so much stronger than anything. It's stronger than cigarettes. Snus, Zen, it's all. [01:17:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:47] Speaker B: Not as strong. [01:17:48] Speaker A: So that's why I don't own one, bro. [01:17:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't. [01:17:51] Speaker A: That's. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's why I don't buy cigarettes. Like, if I'm gonna have a cigarette in the morning, I have to go work for it, bro. Like, I have to go ask somebody can. Hey, can I bum a cigarette? It's a little degrading, but you know what? Sometimes I want a cigarette with my coffee, and I want to watch people come into work and fucking get. Get, get the morning started slowly, you know? [01:18:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:12] Speaker A: Anyhow, that goes back to your whole theology right there. Right there. You know what I'm talking about? Your eschatology. See how I did that? I want to settle into the morning. [01:18:23] Speaker B: Wait, what theology? [01:18:27] Speaker A: I said eschatology. I switched it up on you. The whole, like, I think there's 10,000 more years, and we're just starting. That's how I like to start my mornings. Like, hey, hold up, hold up. Give me a half hour. Let me have a cigarette. Let me enjoy my coffee. [01:18:41] Speaker B: I think you've misunderstood my eschatology incredibly. I didn't say you're gonna be around for 10,000 years. [01:18:52] Speaker A: No, I get that. You're saying, as society, we're just getting started, or as a Christian culture, we're just getting started. Okay, well, we got 10,000 more years. Like, okay, yeah, I like to start off. [01:19:04] Speaker B: Give me a cigarette. [01:19:05] Speaker A: I mean, like. [01:19:10] Speaker B: The title of this episode should be, the Church has only been around 2000 years. Give me a cigarette. [01:19:27] Speaker A: All right, man. So this. This is kind of going back to the neurological shit. And I don't know if anybody's. I'm sure so many people have covered this, but I haven't. And so researching this, I was kind of like, I didn't realize. Like, I might dabble every week or two, you know what I mean? I might be like, you know what? Feeling a little frisky. You know what I mean? I might apply a little more body soap than I should, you know? [01:20:08] Speaker B: Someone knocks on the bathroom door, Leave me alone. Don't come in here. [01:20:16] Speaker A: Wiping my glasses because they're fogging up, you know, Just steaming up in the shower, I put it on warm so the glasses don't fog as easy, you know what I mean? Try not to keep my fucking. Get my phone wet, you know what I mean? Put my back against the water. But, man, I started looking. I started looking. I started looking into this, and, man, it was crazy. So porn impacts the prefrontal cortex. Oh, man, my eyes are watering. That's the region in the brain responsible for executive functions like decision making, impulse control, and morality. Whoo. Morality. That's crazy, dude. Regular porn use may rewire this region. Oh, my eyes are so watery. Dude, I appreciate you. [01:21:32] Speaker B: Wipe your damn eyes. What? What is the problem? [01:21:37] Speaker A: You know what I gotta do? I gotta take off my glasses, use my sweater. I mean, this is. This is a situation. I was hoping I could just blink it away. I cannot. I apologize. Anyhow. Oh. So it can basically rewire the brain to a more juvenile state, potentially impairing judgment and impulse control. Like, they keep bringing up judgment, impulse control, which. Yeah, like, I get it. Because if you relate it to any other drug that we were talking about, there's a constant thought. There's a constant, like, lack of focus, lack of productivity, because you cannot. [01:22:22] Speaker B: Because you're preoccupied. [01:22:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:24] Speaker B: And also, if you think about it, engaging in an immoral act constantly would have to desensitize your moral compass a little bit. Right. So, like, in other areas, you've already compromised. So, like, you know. [01:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:41] Speaker B: Maybe tell a lie. You know, like, I could almost see where it kind of wears away at that part of your brain that's willing to stand now. [01:22:49] Speaker A: You just compromise. Yeah, there's no. You no longer compartmentalize. You just compromise. [01:22:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Studies show that the brain. I'm sorry, the porn addiction causes unethical decision making by increasing levels of dehumanization. Like, they actually did studies on this that show that porn. And if you want the links, we could post that they show the porn addiction causes unethical decision making. Yeah, I get to humanize. [01:23:31] Speaker B: Dehumanizes what? Women. [01:23:34] Speaker A: By increasing levels of dehumanization. No, because I'm pretty sure that there are women out there that, like, you said now, that they're so open to the aspect of porn that are also dehumanizing males. For instance, Boston and this. And I think I said this before. Boston always told people I was horrible in bed. [01:23:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you totally said that. [01:24:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And as a young man, it pissed me off, you know? I mean, I was like, what are you talking about? Like, I handled it, you know? I mean, it just made Me feel smaller. [01:24:12] Speaker B: Said I was good. [01:24:14] Speaker A: It just made me feel so small in front of her roommates. I was just like, yeah, whatever. Yes. The blue eyes. You know what I mean? Like it's nothing else. You know what I mean? Yeah. I got great sense of humor. You know what I mean? I'm that dude. [01:24:29] Speaker B: The listeners can't see how your arms are folded right now while you say out with these. [01:24:50] Speaker A: Did you just. Who, me? That was golden. That was golden. All right, man. Yeah. And let me finish that fast forward. Old Spanish chick is like, oh, my gosh. He's like a porn star. And I'm like, no, no, no. If I learn one thing from Boston, it's the parallel park. However, if I learned a second thing, tell him I suck in bed. Like, don't tell him I'm a porn star in bed. Tell them I suck in bed. She was like, why? I was like, because they're all gonna want this. [01:25:30] Speaker B: They won't be able to. [01:25:31] Speaker A: They're all gonna want this. Yeah. I separated myself. I thought she was special. [01:25:43] Speaker B: Okay. That got sad. [01:25:46] Speaker A: Yes. So did I. She was 29. She wanted a kid. I was like, let's do it. [01:25:56] Speaker B: Perfect. But you would have more. [01:25:58] Speaker A: I thought. What? [01:26:00] Speaker B: You would have more. [01:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Yeah, I would. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would. You know, like, I was talking to the ex and she was, who wants to be 80 when their kid is 30? I was like, I have neighbors that have some old ass parents. They're. They look like death, but they're pretty cool. [01:26:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:26:30] Speaker A: They had them late in life. Like, that's cool though. Like, I'm still an active dude, so why wouldn't I be an active father? [01:26:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:37] Speaker A: And she's like, your kids would see. Be so pissed off. I said, yeah, I think about that all the time. I did. I was. I think about that all the time. Like, I really do. Because Spanish was like, give me. Give me a kid. I was like, give me a boy. It was the ultimate dagger. The ultimate dagger. I was like, give me a boy. We could do this. Yeah. I didn't pull that dagger. I'm so glad she's great, but she was toxic. Research shows relationship with porn addiction lead to misogyny and violence. [01:27:29] Speaker B: I mean, what's up? Do you think that's really where it came from? [01:27:38] Speaker A: I don't know. Mr. Fruit Shaker. What's up, fruit Shaker? [01:27:47] Speaker B: What is that? [01:27:52] Speaker A: Are you misogynistic? [01:27:55] Speaker B: No. I don't know. Maybe. [01:27:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:59] Speaker B: By what definition do I not trust women? Do I think that they're all evil and out for themselves only. Sure. That doesn't mean I'm a misogynist. [01:28:15] Speaker A: I love this kid, man. Dude. No, but I can see that. Can you see that? Can you just. Just put all the other, like, emotional aspects aside? The neurological effect alone makes you want to quit. [01:28:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, for sure. [01:28:41] Speaker A: What are your thoughts on it now in your own personal. Like, how are you going to apply this? Like, for me, it was really eye opening. [01:28:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I. I've heard about the neurological effects before. I. It's been a while since I've. [01:28:59] Speaker A: You're like it. [01:29:05] Speaker B: And we're all gonna die someday, right? I mean. [01:29:13] Speaker A: We'Re just getting started. [01:29:15] Speaker B: We're just getting started. You don't. That's not what that means. No, I. You know, I've heard that stuff before, but it's been a long time since I've heard the specifics of it. But, yeah, I mean, it definitely is, like, one of the main, you know, reasons that I. I don't engage with that. [01:29:38] Speaker A: Like I said, I'm about one every week or two, but, like, where do you do it? You know, Sometimes. Some. Most of the time. [01:30:01] Speaker B: I was trying to think of any reason to play this. [01:30:06] Speaker A: I know you started to walk into. Walk me into it earlier, and I was like, all right. And then you bowed out of it, and you're like, what are you doing? You're like, got you, bitch. All these guilty feet. All right. Oh. [01:30:39] Speaker B: I feel like this isn't even gonna be fun for people to listen to. We've just been laughing the whole time. [01:30:46] Speaker A: I think they'll be laughing with us. I hope so. If not, they're not our people. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're just not. [01:30:53] Speaker B: Screw it. [01:30:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Dude, it's been a fun night, though, man. [01:30:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I started early, man. I had a couple whiskeys before we started. You know, I was kicking with a client. You know, we're smoking cigars. It was fun. I did. I had. I had a couple whiskeys and then a church music. Ooh. You ever have church music? [01:31:18] Speaker B: No. What is that? [01:31:20] Speaker A: It's an ipa. Local. I don't know if how. How outside of local it is. I just know we get. It's everywhere locally here. I don't know if it expands because it's been kind of taken off. Like, they sell six packs and stuff at, like, BevMo or Total Wine and more. So I don't know how nationwide they are in that brand or if they're just local, but They're a really good IPA that, like, you know, after I only had one, you know, I was respectful. [01:31:54] Speaker B: That's kind of a lot after. After a couple whiskeys, though. [01:31:58] Speaker A: Yeah. But I kept it classy, San Diego, you know what I mean? [01:32:03] Speaker B: I could tell by the way you're slurring how classy you must have kept it. [01:32:08] Speaker A: Dude, this guy opened up, he's talking about his marriage, and I'm like, hey, fight for it. Like, hey, honestly, like, the Love Dare type thing, I'm telling him, you know, and he's talking about rolling splits. He's talking about admitting. Admitting to doing coke. It means. To doing. Having prostitutes in the last seven years. And I'm like. And he's a director. And I'm like, holy crap, dude. And he's like, yeah, they just made me sign extra paperwork. He's like. Because all of it happened, like, in. What was it? Was that Sweden? Sweden or something? What's that other one? Everybody goes to Norway. [01:32:50] Speaker B: Oh, oh, Amsterdam. Amsterdam, yeah, yeah. [01:32:56] Speaker A: He said it happened in Amsterdam. And I was like, oh. He's like, yeah. And he's like, the dude I'm sitting with, it's his boss, like, the director of all this facilities. And he's like, yeah, I should sign the extra paperwork. He's like, oh, yeah, dude. He's like, but, man, he goes, hey, poker night, Saturday night at my house. He goes, yeah, you can bring it, but I can't smoke it with you. Just let me smell it. I'm like, okay. However, I'm gonna invite my boss to this game, so I stay on my best behavior, though, man. [01:33:28] Speaker B: What. What paperwork was he referring to. [01:33:33] Speaker A: When. [01:33:34] Speaker B: You just said he had to sign extra paperwork? What. What paperwork? [01:33:38] Speaker A: Oh, he had to sign extra paperwork after, because he looked at his buddy and was like, hey, I didn't lie about this. On my. My entrance to the company, like, when they did a background search and investigate all your friends. He's like, I didn't lie about that to the company. He. And he was like, you told him all that? He's like, oh, yeah. He's like. He was just gonna sign extra paperwork. [01:34:01] Speaker B: What was he admitting to? To doing coke or was he arrested, bro? [01:34:06] Speaker A: Whoa. Yeah, to. He just admitted to everything he did in his past. You know, like when you sign for the Air Force and you're like, hey, dude, don't ever tell him you did. Like, these drugs, they can't find it. They can't trace it. Like, don't admit it to ever doing weed. Like, you haven't Done it in, like, five years. Why would you admit to it? You haven't done it Eight months. Why would you admit to it? Who gives a. With the timeline past two months, you know, you're in the clear. Just don't admit to it. And then you go in there, you're like, yeah, I smoked weed. Yeah, I did. I've done. I've done lying coke before. Yeah, and. And they can't find it on you, but you're just freely admitting to it. That's basically what he did when. When they questioned him, he just admitted to his past. And the other day was like, dude, really? He's like, yeah, I didn't. I didn't. I just. I just kind of told him, but it's his boss. Like, he's the boss. Over. The dude was like, really? You told him? Yeah. Crazy. [01:35:03] Speaker B: I've never answered those types of questions in a job interview. [01:35:11] Speaker A: You know, when you work in the line of business I work in, like, you know, they ask you, you know, you handsy with the ladies? Are you? You handsy with the ladies, my friend? And I'm like, hey, hell yeah. Their hands. [01:35:25] Speaker B: You just totally misread the moment. Am I handsy with the ladies? [01:35:39] Speaker A: You might want to name this episode I'm never going to Dance Again. [01:35:43] Speaker B: That was almost the title of a. A previous episode. [01:35:50] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I just flip it on them like, they're handsy with me, my man. You know, but look, look, I am going to dip my pen and wrap. [01:35:58] Speaker B: Of all of this. [01:36:00] Speaker A: No, man. I just let them know I don't. I don't dip my pen. & Co. Inc. You know, that's one. [01:36:06] Speaker B: Of your three things. [01:36:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I tell them, this is company, E. You know? I mean, this is business. I don't be the client, and I don't be co workers. [01:36:17] Speaker B: Nice. [01:36:18] Speaker A: I mean, unless they want to start a family or something. But, you know, but, you know, you know, it's hard to find. There's bylaws within the bylaws. [01:36:34] Speaker B: All right. No, I think. I think that's it for this episode. How are we gonna land this, Nick? [01:36:41] Speaker A: It's gonna be a whole week. It's gonna be a whole week before I talk to you again. [01:36:47] Speaker B: Do we have more to do this again next week, or are we gonna do another topic? [01:36:51] Speaker A: Nope, I'm done, bro. That was it. That was it. Like, if that don't stop you from, like, wanting to actually be a better person, just in general, after hearing all the side effects, like, for me, the only person I compete with is Myself of yesterday, you know, I want to be a better person tomorrow. If that doesn't, like, make you think, like, man, maybe I should take a serious look at this. Yeah, it's. You know, this is something to say about you, but I'm speaking to my listeners or my listener. [01:37:25] Speaker B: I should check the numbers and see if we're getting downloads. [01:37:30] Speaker A: I wonder if you could. [01:37:31] Speaker B: But I can. [01:37:33] Speaker A: Dude. Even, like, two would be exciting. Yeah. I mean, problem is, like, who did tell? Oh, who did Dale tell? You know what I mean? Who's the other person Dale told. [01:37:53] Speaker B: Here? I think pulling it up now. Listeners. [01:37:59] Speaker A: And tell me they're not all hits in India either. You know what I mean? [01:38:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the thing. You gotta. I. When I first launched my podcast, I got a ton of listens in Tennessee, and eventually I realized, like, yeah, this is the first episode. Like, no one's really listening to this. [01:38:17] Speaker A: So that happened with my blog, too. [01:38:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:23] Speaker A: I did have a blog that I talk about freely. It's self segregation. Not a lot of people were happy with it, but they couldn't really argue with it. [01:38:36] Speaker B: Self segregation, like, of races. [01:38:40] Speaker A: Mm. [01:38:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Now that's a real thing. They do it more than we do. [01:38:44] Speaker A: You. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's crazy. [01:38:50] Speaker B: Like, we've got. [01:38:52] Speaker A: And I just kind of three thoughts. [01:38:54] Speaker B: Out there in early February. We peaked in on February 4th. [01:39:01] Speaker A: But were they all different or were they all like this? Like, me, you, and Boston? [01:39:06] Speaker B: It's probably that. Yeah. We've got. We've got, like, one listener a week throughout March. Yeah, that's all right. [01:39:16] Speaker A: We're getting Shout out to Boston. Shout out to Boston. [01:39:19] Speaker B: Yep. We love you, Boston. More than a feeling. [01:39:32] Speaker A: No, I just got to have her tell her all her friends and just say, hey, listen to this guy. He's pretty funny. Because they'll never know. They'll never know. [01:39:43] Speaker B: They couldn't. I mean, how would they know?