029: Happy Anti-Hanger Day

[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, so. Oh, I found that book from Man's Mansphere, the Unplugged Alpha. And, like, the little line tagline underneath says, no guide to winning with women in life. [00:00:16] Speaker B: Now, is there such a thing. Is there such a thing as winning. [00:00:22] Speaker A: With women in life? Yeah, that's all I do is win, win, win, win, win. [00:00:27] Speaker B: I feel like it's more. It's more like civil rights, like, for black people, where, like, it gets a little better, but, like, it never is fully. You know what I mean? [00:00:37] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah, I get that. Totes. But, yeah, I did find the book. It's by Richard Cooper. It's not by whoever you said. [00:00:49] Speaker B: That's fair. [00:00:50] Speaker A: You're not gonna repeat who you said. [00:00:53] Speaker B: I don't remember who I said. That was in my notes. It was some manosphere guy that I don't actually know. But, yeah, he's like the go to whoever I said. I remember him being, like, the go to, like, author guy. [00:01:07] Speaker A: You know what, though? This guy does quote him in the book. He does. I remember because when you brought that name up, I was like, oh, that name sounds familiar. I believe this guy actually talks about him quite a bit. One of the books he actually talks about is the Rational Male and Bible of the Red Pill. [00:01:31] Speaker B: That's. That's. That's the book that I saw in my research was the Rational Male. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Is it Rolo to Tomasi? Mm. Yeah, that's the guy who does the forward. He does the forward for this book. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Son of a bit. Dude, what a great. I'm not saying this industry in particular, but we need to find a niche. Or a niche, depending on your pronunciation. And then. And then it's like, dude, dude. We have podcasts. We write forwards in each other's books, we point people, we get an email list, and we promote each other's products. I mean, like, what a genius. Genius. It's. It's just like, all the New York comedians, dude, like, they all know each other. They all go on each other's podcasts. It's like such a crazy little world circle. [00:02:20] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, well, yeah. Welcome to Pseudonyms, everyone. We are under a new format tonight. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm very excited because it's been two weeks since we recorded. [00:02:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, it has. And. [00:02:39] Speaker B: And I've missed it. [00:02:40] Speaker A: We. We are receiving help this time going forward from our volunteer. Just so you know, I don't want anybody out there thinking we're just rolling in the dough. Number one. Number one. [00:02:55] Speaker B: Can we. Can we try to keep it sexy and just Say, we've got an intern. [00:03:01] Speaker A: You know what? I wish we would have discussed this. Yes. [00:03:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Ladies and gentlemen, somebody reached out and wanted to intern with pseudonyms. And. [00:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah, because we are climbing the charts. [00:03:15] Speaker A: And although she wanted the nickname Number One, so don't get her confused with Number One. But no, we will be calling her Number One. [00:03:29] Speaker B: She's our number one. [00:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:32] Speaker B: The show's number one. See? Oh, you know what? I didn't see the second tab that she had in the document. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Oh, that's fun. That's fun. Fun. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Oh, that's. Is that at the end? Are we gonna do that at the end? Because that's. Yeah, that looks like so much fun. [00:03:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:52] Speaker B: Oh, it's gonna be a double header, ladies and gentlemen. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:55] Speaker B: Got so much fun stuff to do. Gotta think of a name for you. Should we say what we're talking about tonight? [00:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Why? Why not? Why not? [00:04:09] Speaker B: Okay. We're gonna discuss abortion. And now here's the thing. I don't know, like, how. How, like, hardcore, we want to get right off the bat in, like, saying our positions. I think we both got pretty strong positions on this. And my tendency in life is when there's a subject such as this that I find so abhorrent, no pun intended, that I have to joke about it to lighten the tension. I'm never going to talk about the Holocaust in a super serious manner because it's just uncomfortable. You know what I mean? [00:04:49] Speaker A: Okay. [00:04:50] Speaker B: And I hope I don't cross any lines. [00:04:56] Speaker A: I don't think you do. However, I do want to say, not that it was of me, but I have had. I have lost relationships over this abortion topic. And because of. Of this, I'm gonna actually call you. Dude, I was out here. I was like. I was. I was tripping. I'm like, who. Who can I call him? You know? Like, who could I call him? And I realized it took me a minute. I'm gonna call you Jane Rowe. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Oh, man. I thought for a second we were gonna give each other the same name. [00:05:42] Speaker A: Oh, you're gonna give me Henry Wade. No. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Now you're gonna be weighed, because that just makes the most sense. But originally, I was gonna call you busy because. Because Busy Phillips did that shout your abortion thing, and she was, like, bragging and, like, talking about how glad she was that she had, like, three abortions when she was a teenager or whatever. I'm probably embellishing. Yeah. I was like. I just. What. What is the only thing I can think of on this? Like, what is a name that I associate with the subject, and I'm like, oh, that. That one bitch. That blonde I gotta hit. [00:06:17] Speaker A: I was thinking I was originally gonna go with Lorna for you. Lorna. [00:06:22] Speaker B: Lorna. What's the significance of that? [00:06:25] Speaker A: All right, so Lorna is a woman. Lorna Roxanne Green, I want to say, two or three years ago, burnt down an abortion clinic that was being built. The. The funny part about it is. Well, here's the funny part. They were trying to say that she burnt down an abortion clinic. However, the Republicans were trying to say that the people who were trying to say it wasn't an abortion clinic yet because it was under construction. The Dems were trying to say it was an abortion clinic because it was planned to be an abortion clinic. So they're trying to get it with a greater. A greater hate crime. So, like, for once, they actually argued the opposite sides. [00:07:27] Speaker B: It's. It's like the Bill Burr joke where he was like. Because he's pro choice, but he was, like, trying to see the other side of it. And he's like, if I was halfway through baking a cake and you just took it out of the oven and threw it across the room, I'd be a little upset, and I'd say, hey, you ruined my cake. And they'd be like, hey, it's not a cake yet. And I'm like, well, it would have been. [00:07:52] Speaker A: So. But. But when I said I got. When I broke up, when I. When. When. When I lost relationships over abortion, it was when Roe v. Wade got reversed. When it got reversed, hectic. Like, yeah, dude. The girl I was with was. Was just like, you know, like, she's like, what's your stance on it? And I'm like, well, I don't really have a stance. Like, it doesn't really affect. I didn't even think about it, even though it got overturned. Like, you know, I'm. I'm out here, you know, trying to meet my schedule at work. I don't have time to worry about what you women are doing. She was like, this isn't gonna work. We're done. We're done. Oh, she got back. Yeah. [00:08:33] Speaker B: That was the. The Muslim chick, right? [00:08:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Next day, she was back together with me. She was like, I'm so glad you didn't respond. I was a little crazy sometimes. And I'm like, yeah, that's cool. Go to my Christmas party. What does she do? She finds the couple dims that were there, and she comes up and they're like, she's laughing at me. She goes Cuz I called it Wade Vro. And she was like, he doesn't even know the names. She's like, cackling in my face, bro. And I'm like, whoa. And like, the dude's wife is like, well, at least he knows. Like, he. He knew the names. Like, he might not have known him in, like, the right way, but, like, he knew the names. She's trying to comfort me. And then I'm realizing. Realizing the husband. I'm like, dude, like, me and you are friends. And like, this is what you believe, you know, like, oh. So, yeah, so that was that. Was that. All right. [00:09:28] Speaker B: The per. Per. [00:09:30] Speaker A: Our document is abortion, right? [00:09:33] Speaker B: Per. Per. The document. A wonderful document. Some. Some say the best. I've seen a lot of good documents. No one knows documents. Like, I know documents. The first thing on here is to kind of state where we are at. And I'm gonna just. I think I'm speaking for both of us when I say we're pro life, but I kind of don't like the pro life, pro choice names. I kind of feel like they're both kind of polemical, you know, like, they're both kind of like, trying to rub something in the other one's face. Whereas, like, pro abortion, anti abortion is like, really what we're talking about. We're not, you know, we're not talking about, like, yeah, oh, we just don't want to murder people. Or like, oh, well, I actually want people to have health care or whatever the hell that, you know. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know, man. I do think they're kind of. They're kind of. Yeah, they're kind of, you know, like, we, again, we don't want to murder people. And the other one's like, well, I don't want to be a slave. I don't want to be dictated. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:52] Speaker A: All right, so what do you think is a. What do you think of fetus age deemed acceptable to a board? Is. [00:11:01] Speaker B: None of them, dude. I mean, just the. I think that's like the safe route to take is just none of them. [00:11:11] Speaker A: But I mean, so is that conviction or is that safe route? Is that like, I don't want to get dumped or is that like my. [00:11:21] Speaker B: My gut. My gut says don't even risk it. And then the more science I see and just in the last, like, 10 years since I've been following this issue, the amount of developments coming out in, like, the biological, you know, sciences are just confirming earlier and earlier ages all the time. Or like, the heartbeat is earlier than we Thought it was the. This is. [00:11:46] Speaker A: Well, they're saying five to six weeks for heartbeat as well as conscience, which. Which is like. Yeah, the argument on that. That tick tock I sent you where that nerd is sitting there and he's just going off and he's like, the conscience is. You know, that's five, six weeks. And it can't be life, because we're talking life, you know, that's. We kill bugs, we kill meat, and the only thing that separates us from a cow is our conscience. And the only. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. [00:12:10] Speaker B: I've heard as early as four weeks for the heartbeat, which is before some people even know they're pregnant. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Shut that cat up. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Shut the up. You're in the room now. You don't need to cry anymore. Get under the blanket. Shut up. [00:12:28] Speaker A: I was totally kidding. But we were on the same page. Have you seen that video where, like, once the sperm hits the actual egg. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Yes. It's like. [00:12:39] Speaker A: It's like a spark of light. Yeah, that's. That's a trip. [00:12:42] Speaker B: Is that. Is that real or is that like AI or something? [00:12:45] Speaker A: You know, I've wondered that myself because I don't know. You know, I've been with some pretty freaky females, and none of them. Let me put a camera in there. [00:12:58] Speaker B: Dude, I'm having such deja vu. I'm pretty sure we've had that ex. That exact conversation with that exact joke on the podcast before. [00:13:08] Speaker A: You know what? We might have. Because I was thinking about this, and I was like, we actually kind of have talked about abortion at one time. Just briefly, I want to say. It was on Manosphere. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, we definitely touched on it. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Because. [00:13:23] Speaker B: And I remember saying that's because that's the one thing that separates men and women. Women, no matter what you do, no matter how you structure society or anything. When there's a pregnancy, the man can walk away and the woman cannot. So in order. [00:13:37] Speaker A: Yeah. And I remember saying there should be harsher punishments. Harsher punishments for men who do walk away. For sure. [00:13:44] Speaker B: For sure. Yeah. Let's see. I don't think I'm stepping on any bullet points up ahead. If I ask you an uncomfortable question, have you ever been party? [00:13:59] Speaker A: Make it uncomfortable. [00:14:00] Speaker B: I don't think you have. But have you ever been party to this. This thing we're talking about tonight? [00:14:07] Speaker A: Oh, have I ever. No, I've never. [00:14:10] Speaker B: I didn't think so. [00:14:11] Speaker A: I've never, never been in a relationship where the person I was with had an abortion. I'm not gonna lie, dude. My pull out game is tight. I was, you know, I was. [00:14:21] Speaker B: Yeah, you've only got four kids. [00:14:24] Speaker A: But I mean, like, I. I wanted each one of them. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:28] Speaker A: Like, when I didn't. When we. My ex and I, Big country. I never, never used a condom. I just pulled out. And then when we said we wanted to have more, we had more. [00:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:42] Speaker A: So, like, every one of them was initially planned. Um, but as far as, like, you know, being a part of it, no. Have I thought about it for sure? You know, there's been times where, like, I thought I might have got the wrong one, you know, like, oh, shoot, what if. And there was a part of me that definitely had to struggle with that, you know, there's a part of me that was like, ooh, if she is, that's on her, you know, like, if that's what she decides, you know? You know, I definitely didn't want to, you know, have a baby with certain. Certain females, but there was that chance where she's like, oh, I. I missed my period. And I'm like, oh, man. Like, you were just. You were just there, you know, like, you weren't someone I wanted to, like, talk to. You know what I mean? Or, like, pee with. [00:15:39] Speaker B: Hey, hey. Do you want to maybe have this conversation at the time? Top of a large skyscraper. Hey, come out. Come out on this rickety bridge and let's talk about. [00:16:00] Speaker A: Yeah, so. No, I've never. Have you. [00:16:03] Speaker B: No. [00:16:04] Speaker A: No, I didn't think so. I was like, he's only been with, like, two chicks. [00:16:09] Speaker B: Hey. Three. No. Yeah. No, they're never. I mean, unless I wasn't told about it, but I assume I would have heard. But. No, I mean, I wouldn't even say there was a risk of that, if you know what I mean, so. [00:16:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little. Do you know there's a little bigfoot running around out there? [00:16:45] Speaker B: I'm sure my mom's. I think my mom's still friends with her. She'd probably let me know. [00:16:51] Speaker A: What about. Moms are weird like that, bro. Yeah, my mom. A lot of my exes. My mom's still friends with a lot of my exes, and I'm just like, why? Why? [00:17:06] Speaker B: That's odd. [00:17:07] Speaker A: That is, dude. Like, chicks I just dated for, like, I don't know, a couple months. Still friends with them. [00:17:13] Speaker B: You want to see their vacation photos? [00:17:18] Speaker A: But I'm not gonna lie. It is. It is a trip. It's a trip because, like, I'll. I'll see them and I'm like, oh, she had a, a child with, you know, like mental disabilities. Glad I didn't mix my DNA with that one. Yeah, it would have been a good looking. [00:17:45] Speaker B: What up, man? Is there anything worse than being a good looking retard? Like having everything you need to succeed in life but no way to use it and you don't even know, you don't even know that you're good looking. You're just trying to play with your Hot Wheels. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Yeah. You don't even know the power you possess. You know what I mean? [00:18:13] Speaker B: That's hilarious. [00:18:14] Speaker A: I don't, you know, there is that scenario, of course, of, you know, you have the hardship that arises at the eighth month mark or, you know, seventh month mark. I have known women to. In fact, the, the woman I'm seeing, she had her only child premature because she had hardships at her eighth month. And so she had him, you know, she had a C section and had him, you know, he had, of course, some breathing difficulties and stuff like that, but healthy kid. Now that's, you know, in the, the, the Navy. So. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Okay, so he's like an adult. [00:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, now he is. Yeah. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Okay. Because I've, I've heard like in the last 10, 20 years, eight months is not crazy. Like you can, that, that's got a pretty high survivability rate now, but like 20, 30 years ago, that was, that was kind of a, that was a tough. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Well, let's talk about that scenario though. Like, they say the mom's either gonna die or we got to abort the baby. What are we doing? [00:19:19] Speaker B: Well, a lot of doctors will say that that's not really a thing. Like, there are very few scenarios where that's really like a choice you have to make, you know, and some doctors say, like, I've never seen anything like that happen, you know, So I, I think like, generally the goal should be to save both patients. And if that's completely impossible, then, you know, I still don't even know if an abortion is necessary in that situation. I think you still do everything you can for the mother. And if the baby lives, it lives. You know, like a car accident or something like that. [00:20:01] Speaker A: You know, it would suck to be, you know, let's say you guys are on the way to the hospital and she's kind of popping off at the lip and you're just like, you know, like, you just get into it, like, get in a little argument, a little spat, and then doctor comes out, he's like, there's difficulties, you know, like, we gotta see the Child or the. Or your wife? I mean, I know where my vote's going, but what would you do in that situation? [00:20:27] Speaker B: Would you actually save her in that exact situation? My vote is with the future, and children are our future. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Sing it, Whitney. [00:20:42] Speaker B: No, that. That would be a tough one. Like, if you really were, like, in a bad place, like, not just that day, but, like, for years, and you were in that situation, there would be part of you that'd be like, I can do the right thing and solve every problem I have right now. [00:21:01] Speaker A: I'm not gonna lie, dude, I would probably be driving to the hospital. God, you are good. You love me, Lord. Like, you know what I mean? Like, well, we'd already be at the hospital, and he says, you know, difficulties. I'd probably. I'd probably be in the waiting room, like, thank you, Jesus. You know, little Wink, you know, like, you got my back on this one. I see. You know, you knew I was right. You knew I was right. That's how I'd probably be sitting. High, high, high on the horse. [00:21:28] Speaker B: You work in mysterious ways, Wink. [00:21:31] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [00:21:33] Speaker B: I don't know this guy right here. [00:21:36] Speaker A: I don'. Know if I want to be reminded of her. I really don't care. If you save either one of them. [00:21:44] Speaker B: You know what it's going to have? The half this DNA. I'm not even sure. I mean, like, is there any way we could just save on the bill here? Just sa. With both of them? How much does it cost to save neither of them? [00:22:06] Speaker A: It's pretty messed up. [00:22:07] Speaker B: No. So anyway, that's just what I've heard is that, like, people bring up these crazy situations where, like, we have to do this abortion or the. The woman's not going to survive. I don't know, man. I've. Apparently that's so rare, it's not even worth mentioning. But in that scenario, then, yeah, I guess. I guess a choice has to be made. But I've. I've met a lot of people who were given that kind of choice. Or, like, not that exact situation, but, like, this baby's got, you know, a terrible genetic disease, and it's not going to live past two. And then they just roll the dice, flush it. It's totally fine. Totally fine. 19 years old now, totally fine. [00:22:47] Speaker A: I wouldn't be able to. I honestly, I joke, but I wouldn't be able to say, like, get rid of it while your wife's in the room. What would you choose? Save the baby or save. Save your wife. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Wade wants to know his name Is Wade tonight? Wade wants to know if there was a situation where it. Save you or save the baby when you're pregnant. What are you gonna choose? Into the microphone, please. [00:23:17] Speaker A: Well, if the baby's viable without me, then the baby. [00:23:22] Speaker B: But I don't think so. She says, if the baby's viable, then. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Yeah, we heard. She had a mic in her face. We heard. [00:23:29] Speaker B: Okay, well, you heard on my headphones. [00:23:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I did. Yeah, I heard on your headphones. I'm sure she spoke into the mic, though. [00:23:37] Speaker B: But if the baby's viable, then the baby's life isn't really in danger, right? So. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Well, I want to know what you would pick, and I prefer you to, you know, just say, if it was up to me, I would save. [00:23:56] Speaker B: Oh, up to me. I mean, yeah, I'd kind of have to go. I'd have to go with the wife. We can. We can make another. Yeah, I mean, what, to go with. [00:24:12] Speaker A: The wife when she's not in there? You're like children of the future, but now you're like, we can make more future. [00:24:18] Speaker B: No, no, no. Don't change the. Don't change the past. You said, if we were in a horrible situation, marriage wise, and we were unhappy for years, I said, well, I guess under that exact situation, I'd probably choose the baby. And I wasn't being 100% serious either. [00:24:43] Speaker A: All right, all right. So what do you think about women's rights to their bodies? Okay, because this is not. This is where. [00:24:49] Speaker B: Totally not in favor of it. What does that even mean? Women's rights? So. [00:24:58] Speaker A: So this is. This is where, like. Because this is honestly the argument that the Muslim girl got into me. She's like, you know, I was. I was. I was out with a friend, and I had an abortion because we went out partying and I passed out, and he took advantage of me and got me pregnant, and I had an abortion because I was in college. And I'm like, okay, I get that. That's where for me, there's only two reasons that you would have an abortion. Rape or incest. And I would only say that because. Do I think the baby from a rape offense could be a blessing? I sure do. But I'm also not the one that has to look at that baby every day and see the dude's face that raped me. So if you're like, hey, I got raped, and I don't want to have a baby with this. This guy who raped me, you know, I could see that being a reason. Incest, it's. If. If it's not rape. I imagine you were doing it willingly. And if that's the case, then, yeah, you should have that little inbreed, you know? [00:26:08] Speaker B: Yeah, the rape one is tough because I definitely. I definitely understand it. I definitely sympathize. But I mean, like, ultimately, the baby's done nothing wrong, so it's like as much as it's. I mean, look, people. People are forced to do things they don't want to do all the time. And I know this is, like, probably the worst version of that possible, but, like, I know such a piece of shit saying I have to go to. [00:26:43] Speaker A: Work every day and that I don't want to do, but I'm not going to kill the kid over it. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Well, I mean, like, I don't know, your dad could be. Well, not your dad, because you wouldn't care, but your dad could be murdered. But like, you. You are now forced to live with that every single day. You're forced to live with the fact that your dad was murdered. And maybe. Oh, I got an idea. It's your neighbor who killed your dad. And even though he went away, you've got to see his wife and kids every day. So now every day, you see the wife and kids of this guy who killed your dad, and you have to be reminded of your dad's murder. It's like, yeah, okay, but we're not going to kill that whole family because of what you emotionally have to go through. Right? [00:27:27] Speaker A: I Still different, bro. I mean, like, you're. I get what you said. [00:27:30] Speaker B: I know it's different. [00:27:31] Speaker A: You have the choice. [00:27:31] Speaker B: I'm doing the best I can with the analogies. I know it's different. [00:27:35] Speaker A: You have the choice to move away with that one on the rape one. The older the kid gets, the more he looks like the dude that raped you. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Okay, but moving away is sort of like adoption in this scenario. You also don't have to raise this kid. [00:27:51] Speaker A: You're right. You're right. That's a. That's a. That's a. That's a viable option. [00:27:55] Speaker B: What? I would. [00:27:59] Speaker A: Well, ladies and gentlemen, your honor, I. [00:28:01] Speaker B: Hold myself in contempt of the courts. [00:28:07] Speaker A: And that's tonight's episode. [00:28:08] Speaker B: And that's all the time we have for tonight. So. So what? Yeah, so, I mean, like, I'm totally sympathetic to that. At the same time, like, a very good friend of mine is the. The product of a rape mom. Her mom chose. [00:28:27] Speaker A: I was not gonna bring her up because I didn't know how to say her name. I was gonna say share bear. [00:28:33] Speaker B: That's That's a good, that's a good nickname for her. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, like, I can't calculate, you know, she's a bit of a. But I can't calculate the blessing that she's brought to my and everyone I know's life, you know, so it's like to imagine that void just being there like she never existed is like. Yeah, I would never want that, you know, no matter how hard it was. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Sure you thought about it. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she threatened to murder me one time. Like, credibly, of course, have considered. [00:29:12] Speaker A: I used to have a. I used to have a guy I, I, I worked with, and he, he would, when I would go into his office on his birthday, I'd say, hey, happy Birthday. And he'd be like, oh, you mean Happy anti hanger day. What does that mean? He was. He. His mom gave him up for adoption instead of aborting him, so he considered his birthday anti hanger day. [00:29:38] Speaker B: It's kind of a pleasant way to look at it in such an unpleasant situation. My. [00:29:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a little dark, for sure. [00:29:49] Speaker B: My buddy was given up for adoption and that the family had another baby like, a year and a half later that they kept. They have, like, a whole family. [00:30:03] Speaker A: Okay. I totally thought, like, the adopting family took him in and then had a child of their own. They're like, well, don't need you no more. [00:30:12] Speaker B: No, no. Yeah. No. The, the birth family went on to have a whole, like, three or four more kids, and one of them was just like a year later, and they were like, well, we're ready now. [00:30:27] Speaker A: You know, sometimes you're in a bad spot, you know. [00:30:30] Speaker B: Yeah. David Cross told this story on a podcast that haunts me. It was so his wife, the actress Amber Tamblyn, I think is her name. Amber Tamblyn, I'm pretty sure. Babe. Is that her name? [00:30:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:48] Speaker B: She was on house. They're married. They got pregnant. She decided she didn't want to have the baby yet, like, for career reasons. And they had an abortion. And he tells the story. Like, I was, I didn't really want to do that. Like, I wanted the kid, but it's ultimately, you know, he was still, like, very leftist about it. He was still like, oh, you know, it's her choice. And so I just supported her whatever. Like a, Again, like a year, year and a half later, I think it was two years later, she decides she's ready now. And then they had their baby. And he was just talking like, it is, we, you Know, because he can't say it's wrong because in his worldview it's not really wrong. But he, he, you could tell he thought it was kind of wrong. And he was just like, yeah, you know, so I've got a three year old now and I sometimes I think, like, what would it be like to have a five year old and a three year old and stuff? And it was just so weird to hear this guy like, still not be able to say, like, it was wrong, you know? [00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:31:51] Speaker B: But it's like, oh, yeah, so you killed one and then just two years later you're just arbitrarily ready now. Like, that's great for you. [00:31:59] Speaker A: I mean, you know, house came to an end, contract wasn't renewed. You know, maybe what do you do? You know, you're just like, well it. Now we're having kids, got to find another purpose in life at that point, you know. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:16] Speaker A: What are your thoughts on the state or federal? [00:32:20] Speaker B: Oh, well, for me it would just sort of be whatever gets us closest to the right thing. And I feel like the federal thing was to legalize abortion. So like whenever a state steps up and says, we're just not gonna allow that, my sympathy is with the state's rights. But I mean, I would like to see it federally illegal. [00:32:54] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, so like, because I'm more in the boat of like less, less, less chefs in the kitchen, less votes. So remove it from the states and just make it illegal federally. Yeah, but I get the fact that if federal, he's not doing it. Not making to what I believe is the right decision. We're about to lose probably half our fan base on this one. If I deem it not, I deem it. But if the, if the Fed deems it illegal, I would like to see the Fed. It'd be under the Fed, but of course that's gonna be fucking hell to raise with Karen's and Subaru drivers worldwide. [00:33:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And like, you know, because I'm not principled on like the structure of government, I don't really believe in that. So like, I wouldn't say like, well, this arbitrarily drawn chunk of land should make the decisions and not this much larger land. I mean, that's closer to what I believe because I think ultimately we need the most localized governance possible. But like, for me it's more about like the principles of life and liberty. So yeah, whoever is not in favor of murder and war and rape and all this stuff, that, that's the argument I'm going to Side with. So I don't really care who's. Wait a minute. I thought, I thought we could rape in this scenario. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Let's look at that, though, because you're saying you want it more localized, like, that's your view, right? The more local, the better. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:34:42] Speaker A: Let's say you're traveling, and let's just say you're going from, I don't know, Oklahoma to California. You drive through a little armpit of the west coast that we like to call Albuquerque. And let's say you're, You're. You're in there on the west. And you get in there and, and you're like, oh, like, I, I didn't know your guys's rules were X, Y and Z. And I'm not going to go to the extreme of rape, but let's just say it's fucking pissing outside on a bush or smoking a cigarette or vaping or whatever the hell you like to do. Maybe he's in. The guy sees you, papa's in, he's like, whoa, that's, that's, that's not accepted around here because we are big on health, you know, just. Just help in general. Don't you think that's kind of confusing? [00:35:34] Speaker B: Yes, but I would say the, the most localized governance possible would be you making choices for yourself. So I would say it's rights are preferable to federal counties, preferable to states, cities, preferable to counties, all that stuff. [00:35:58] Speaker A: All right, well, you, Your, Your kids. Ball goes in your neighbor's backyard. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Mm. [00:36:04] Speaker A: You don't know that your neighbor runs a certain way of. Maybe he likes to rape and pillage and that's how he runs his. And there is no federal law, there's no state law. There's just you, you, your law on your land. That's your law. Ball goes in the backyard. I mean, kid gets raped. Let's just say I'm going to the extremes now. [00:36:29] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. [00:36:29] Speaker A: I mean, who's. Now, now. Where do we go now, now, now what happens? You. You try and lure them into your. Your state, your backyard. Hey, come over here. Because in my backyard, we could shoot. We can shoot rapists and pedophiles. I mean, like, you know. [00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, the point of having more freedom and life and liberty is for those principles, right? I probably didn't say that. Well, the purpose of not having an oppressive government that murders people is because murder is wrong. So there do have to be principles by which we govern ourselves. And obviously, the moment you start infringing on someone else's Life and liberty that becomes an issue where. [00:37:22] Speaker A: So do you not see laws biblical, like just government law? [00:37:30] Speaker B: I think it can be. I don't. Ultimately, yeah, I think it's a good thing to have a rule in place where you're not allowed to kill people. Ultimately, the people who govern that are mass murderers 100 of the time. So. What? Conversation. Really? [00:37:54] Speaker A: Well, no, but you. You're like. Because now we're. We're focused not so much on the law, but we're focused on the people enforcing the law. [00:38:01] Speaker B: Yes. [00:38:02] Speaker A: So it's not the law that's bad. It's the people enforcing the law that you're like, you have the issue with. It's not so much the law because I'm big. I like the blanket. I like the blanket of no killing all states. No, there's. [00:38:14] Speaker B: In, in, in an anarchist world, there's still rules, which is hard to wrap your head around because we think of it as like, no rules. The idea is that there's no rulers, there's no kings. There's no kings being put in place to oppress people and, and, you know, enforce their arbitrary rule on people. Obviously you can't go into an anarchist society and just set up a government that's against the rules. You know what I mean? So, like. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:47] Speaker B: There still have to be principles by which we structure a society where we. We don't have that kind of government. [00:38:54] Speaker A: So are they judged by their people if they do? Because I get what you're saying. There's a law of the land, but without a lawmaker or a law enforcer, if you will. A law enforcer. So what happens when someone breaks the law of the land in that. In that society? [00:39:12] Speaker B: Whatever. [00:39:12] Speaker A: Judge by their peers. [00:39:14] Speaker B: There, there. There's a million different ways we could structure that. So ultimately, you know, pick someone. Kamala Harris is in no position to be the one enforcing those rules. You know what I mean? [00:39:31] Speaker A: I'm really not trying to be, like, facetious or. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, no, no. [00:39:34] Speaker A: I honestly asking, like, if we're in a. If we're in a. What's. What's that. What's that damn show Walking Dead. And we're setting up a new. A new area. We, we got all, all our land blocked off or fortified, you know, and some. And we have a law of the land. There is no murder. But then someone goes and kills his wife. How do we decide his punishment? Because I kind of feel like if we're not doing it by the people or a voting system or some sort of like, hey, again, I feel like there has to be an enforcer, because if it's like the law of the land is just generally, don't kill. And if you do, here's the punishment, whether it's death or whatever, spending time in a solitary confinement, whatever it is. I mean, who enforces that? Because technically, wouldn't they then become the government unless it's way of people? I don't know. [00:40:39] Speaker B: Yes. And I. I think what you're touching on is that there are always elites that kind of rise to the top and become leaders. Most people need leaders. Is. Is kind of the issue. [00:40:54] Speaker A: And. [00:40:55] Speaker B: But. But in that, I mean, yeah, you could set up a court system, and if you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this guy killed his wife, then whatever your society deems as the punishment for that, assuming you find that to be problematic, then, yeah, you've got a death penalty set up, or, you know, I think prison is immoral for other reasons, but I certainly don't care if murderers go to prisons. But I think it's a problem for society at large for other reasons. But, yeah, I mean, I think if you can prove the guilt, then, you know, the court or the people who got to, you know, Rick and Negan and these leaders who get together to make these rules, then they take the enforcement into their hands, I guess. But, you know, the second that it becomes like, a dictatorship, where you're not allowed to leave this society and go down, you know, three states over where you like the system better, then that kind of becomes, you know, another issue in freedom and life and liberty and stuff. You know, the interesting thing about that show, in particular is that all the leaders become dictators. You know, like, Rick and Negan are almost just as bad as each other, you know, because, like, Negan comes in and says, give me half your shit or I'll kill you. Literally. That's a line. Okay, so he's the US Government because he's taking half of our shit in taxation and threatening to kill us if we don't give it to him. But how did Rick get wrapped up in this whole thing? Rick said, oh, these people are a threat who haven't done anything to us yet, but they could be a threat, so let's go kill them all. So he goes and kills, like, 40 people for no reason and then gets in trouble with the leader. You know, so it's like, okay, so, like, Negan is Afghanistan and Rick is America, and Rick went in there and. [00:42:53] Speaker A: Just killed where Rick. Rick messed up. Rick should have gave them, like, a reservation. Rick should have been like, hey, these houses are yours. The rest is under my law. You can gamble in those houses if you want. You can do whatever you want. [00:43:09] Speaker B: You could drink yourself silly. [00:43:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Just give up your weapons. [00:43:17] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I mean, ultimately, probably the best way of structuring that is like, a voluntary system of rules primarily. Don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. And then, you know, localized enforcement of those rules, whether they be private security, court systems, arbiters, you know, there's a million different ways to kind of set that up. But, yeah, that would be assuming we all kind of agree that if it's not hurting someone or taking their stuff, it shouldn't be a rule. So, like, yeah, I can go. Yeah, maybe not. [00:44:02] Speaker A: All right, so looking at the US Abortion rights by state, there's a good portion of them that are full ban, but then there's also a good portion that are legal before viability. [00:44:17] Speaker B: Okay, so you. Our states, it looks like, are legal before viability. [00:44:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, our states are. Yeah. [00:44:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:26] Speaker A: But again, I mean, like, I feel like viability is a crapshoot. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:33] Speaker A: You know, like how I kill a pregnant woman, how many months or weeks pregnant does she have to be for me to catch a double homicide? [00:44:44] Speaker B: I don't even know if there is a limit on that. I mean, I think if she's four weeks pregnant, it's probably considered a homicide, right? [00:44:53] Speaker A: A double homicide. [00:44:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:56] Speaker A: I mean, I would imagine so. I don't know, Jane. [00:45:00] Speaker B: Let's. Let's see. I'm gonna ask Chatgpt and try to make it sound like I'm not planning to kill a pregnant woman. [00:45:11] Speaker A: If my wife was pregnant. [00:45:16] Speaker B: Hey, chatgpt. Let's say my wife was three weeks pregnant. If I kill her right now, how far along does a woman's pregnancy have to be for her murder to be considered double homicide? I will not respect ChatGPT if the first thing it says is not. Before you do anything, call this number. That depends a lot on the jurisdiction in US Law, whether the killing of a pregnant woman can also count as the killing of her fetus, sometimes called feticide. Feticide needs to be a metal band. Federal law defines an unborn child as a member of the species homeo sapiens at any stage of development who is carried in the womb. That means under federal law, harming or killing a fetus at any stage in pregnancy can be treated as a separate offense. So it could be prosecuted as a double homicide from conception onward. That's crazy to have that rule and then allow abortion. [00:46:43] Speaker A: Yes, and allow abortion. Exactly. [00:46:46] Speaker B: State laws differ. Some states follow the federal model and count a fetus as a potential homicide figure. So I could be in the right state and not get in trouble, even though it's federally illegal or federally a homicide. Some others dates set a threshold of viability around 22 to 24 weeks. [00:47:13] Speaker A: That is crazy, though, that they define that like that, and yet they have the stance of like, oh, you. You could kill it, though, if it's yours. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Yeah, a few states have specific fetal homicide statutes that only apply after a certain gestational age, often in the third trimester. [00:47:36] Speaker A: How many trimesters are there? Well, three, I guess. Try. [00:47:42] Speaker B: I thought. I thought you were joking. I thought you were joking at first. [00:47:46] Speaker A: No, I was like, how many are there? And I was like, try mess. 3. Oh, that's the final one. [00:47:55] Speaker B: That's hilarious, dude. [00:47:58] Speaker A: Some have. No. So that's for the homicide aspect. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Yeah. So California is one of those states where it has to be of a particular age around 12 weeks. That's actually pretty early. Let me see. What's Arizona? [00:48:23] Speaker A: It don't matter. We're not having it anymore. We're not even together anymore. What? I said, you don't have to look it up or. We're not having anymore. We're not even together anymore. [00:48:41] Speaker B: Oh, I. I know you kind of got lost in the fantasy, but I'm doing research for the show. I was like, arizona. Sorry. Go ahead. [00:48:53] Speaker A: I was like, we're going to Disney World in two weeks. What if. [00:48:59] Speaker B: Buddy? Actually, that's kind of a fun what if. Can we go with that for a second? What if? What if, all right, first of all, is coming in 2026. [00:49:11] Speaker A: There is no what if, all right? I'm happily in a relationship with the nurse. [00:49:16] Speaker B: Of course. Of course. This is. This is a completely hypothetical. [00:49:23] Speaker A: What if. Oh, dude, that would be. Dude, how nuts would that be, bro? [00:49:31] Speaker B: Now, I'm assuming it's over with the nurse, even if you and big country are not together, because you're gonna have to, you know, help with a. An infant, and I'm assuming she's just not on board for that. [00:49:47] Speaker A: You're assuming correct. You're assuming correct. She was. She was very matter of fact of it. [00:49:56] Speaker B: You talked about that scenario specifically? [00:49:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:50:02] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Yeah, dude, it. It blows my mind. Dave Grohl. I don't know if Dave Grohl is divorced now, but do you remember what happened with him a year or two ago? [00:50:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Didn't he, like, sleep with. Didn't he sleep with someone like his? [00:50:21] Speaker B: Yeah, he had a baby. He had a baby with his, you know, whatever, some chick outside of his marriage. I think she was like a hairdresser or something, but had a baby with her. And then like, I think his wife and him are still together. And I just have a million questions about how that works. Like, did you, did you leave your wife at home to like, go to the hospital when your baby was born? Like, what a crazy fucking situation. That's nuts. Do you, do you want, like, do you and your wife, like, take a shift with the baby? [00:51:02] Speaker A: Is he with his. Well, he's with his wife, but I. [00:51:06] Speaker B: I think they're still together. Yeah. Boy, talk about a dog house, man. I know he's rich, so that doghouse is a lot bigger than a lot of other people's dog houses. But dude. [00:51:21] Speaker A: A dog house is still a dog. [00:51:23] Speaker B: You don't complain about dinner for years after that. Shit, baby, how's it going with the nurse? [00:51:36] Speaker A: Did you. Did you do some dinner different for, for. With, with chicken tonight? I'm gonna go put the baby down. [00:51:47] Speaker B: No. That's so brutal. [00:51:51] Speaker A: I'm just saying, it's really delicious. Whatever you did. Dude's going great. It is going great. Dude, she is awesome. She's awesome. Number four loves her. Number four was bored on. On Monday. She's kind of moping around the house and I'm like, number four loves pugs. And the nurse has three of them. And so I was like, do you want to go play with some dogs? So, yeah, so we go over to, you know, Nurse Jackie's house and she just. They just had a great time, played with the dogs, had a great time. We were there tonight until about 8:30. I stayed up Tuesday night till about 1 in the morning, just talking to her on the phone from like 9 o', clock, 9:30. And she's cute. She has this thing where she thinks she can actually take me down, like, right. That's kind of what I do. And. But she's serious, dude. She's like, I could get you if I want. Now mind you, she's maybe 5 foot. We even argue about that. We always forget to measure each other. But she's maybe 5 foot. She's like a buck. A buck. Like, yeah, in the bedroom, not a problem. You know, I'm throwing, I'm throwing her around. I'm like, you really think you got me, huh? I wake up in a chokehold and. [00:53:39] Speaker B: She'S like, oh, my God. [00:53:40] Speaker A: Yeah, like a full triangle. It's like, you didn't think I could get you, huh? And I'm like, oh, that's. [00:53:47] Speaker B: That's buddy. Dude, I'm worried. I'm not saying that she's stronger than you or anything. I'm just saying this bitch is crazy and she's gonna get the drop on you at some point. [00:53:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, you got me. I go back to sleep, you know, you got me. Like, you want to keep it? Keep it. I'm going back to sleep. I'm so tired, dude. I tell her, I'm like, that's the only way you're gonna get me is when I'm asleep. And she's like, no, it's gonna happen. I'm like, dude, if you have, if you try and take me down, you're having to do it like the elf putting on a star on the tree. You're having to run down the hallway, hit that couch, and just hit me as hard as you can. I was like, that's about it, you know, but honestly, it's just like that. [00:54:34] Speaker B: Episode of Cheers where Carla said that she could take Norm down if she wanted to. And he just jumps her and she jumps up behind him onto his back, puts him in a chokehold, and he just goes with. It's like such a physical comedy thing. It's not really something that could be described, but he just walks away with this five foot woman on his back. [00:54:56] Speaker A: I gotta find that bit. I gotta find that because I'm gonna send. [00:55:00] Speaker B: I'll find it for you. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Because she is honest, dude. She is. She's so adamant. Like, she's got such big heart. And then like Tuesday, she, she said she was going to Dave's Hot Chicken. And I'm like, oh, Dave's Hot Chicken, so good. She's like, what do you want? And I'm like, no, I'm good. She's like, send me your order of your. Of. Of you and the kids and I'll drop it off. And I'm like, no, that's cool. Like, I don't. I don't feel right about that. Like, you're not going to be eating with us, you're just gonna drop off food and leave? I'm like, it's weird. So. Why is it weird? I'm like, it's just weird. It feels weird. And so that. But that's what she did. She picked up food, stopped by, dropped it off. I introduced her to number three. Number three was like, hi. You know, they. She. You Know was like, hey, you know, I'm all right. Well, here's your food. I'm gonna take off. And I'm like, you don't want to stay? She's like, no, I'm good. You know, like. Like, it's. I'm good. And so, yeah, it was. It was. We have a lot of similar things, you know, like, that we. Like the way we joke with each other. She jokes very similar. She'll say some pretty. Like, we were talking. She's in her office. She's like, you know, she's one. She's the head nurse at a surgery center. And so she sit in her office and I said something. I kept saying, like, something about, like, her hard. You know, she likes hearing that. And. And she. She, like, she's sitting there and she goes, oh, yeah, you know, we're talking about the weekend. She was, yeah, and what are you going to do? Just fuck me hard? And, like, real loud. And I was like, whoa, dude, dude, you're in your office. Calm down. But yeah, she's a. She's a. She's a riot. I just. Just love being with her. [00:56:41] Speaker B: Just so hilarious. Because you're usually the person who jokes so loud that you make people uncomfortable. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And then here she is. I mean, honestly, dude, I can't get enough of her. Like, she's just. She makes me happy, man. [00:56:57] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:56:59] Speaker A: So we did talk about eloping to kind of get past the whole sex before marriage thing. But we realized there will probably be a day where we have to tell her where our kids will find out and they might be hurt by it. And so I'm trying to talk her into not telling our kids. [00:57:22] Speaker B: Take the kids. Boom. Solved it. Let's do it. [00:57:26] Speaker A: Number three doesn't care to meet my girlfriends. Like, she's like, I don't want to meet my mom's boyfriends or my dad's girlfriends. Don't really care. So. [00:57:35] Speaker B: But. [00:57:38] Speaker A: Like, we're legitimately. We're seriously talking about getting married. Like, let me. [00:57:43] Speaker B: Let me talk to her. Let me talk to her. Be like, look, she's a very special lady in ways that you can't understand. And Uncle Nasty is telling you, you gotta be okay with this one. Okay? This is serious. This is a serious relationship. Okay? [00:58:04] Speaker A: Yeah. So we were over. [00:58:05] Speaker B: She's like, 22 years old. I'd be like, sometimes when men and women like each other a lot, there's passion. [00:58:15] Speaker A: We were over her house tonight, and she's talking to number four real quiet. I'm like, what are you guys talking about? And next thing you know, like, a bunch of Dairy Queen arrives to the door, and we're just sitting there eating Dairy Queen. It was great. It was great. [00:58:30] Speaker B: Okay, so impulse control problems. All right, you know what? That is a really fun trait, to be fair. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Dude, she doesn't really have impulse control. She has a sweet tooth. Like, I do, and I love that. You know, like, and what I really enjoy about her, too, is, like, because we've had these conversations, and she's like, look, like, in my marriage, I was real controlling, and, you know, how are you gonna deal with that? I said, well, I'm gonna lead and you're gonna follow. Like, not to be like a dictator, but, like, I want you to be my partner, but you have to trust me that I can lead, and I will trust you to put. Give me input to help me lead, you know, but ultimately, I'm going to be the covering over. Over our relationship. And, you know, we're listening to Attachment Theory right now. There's a podcast out, a great episode on Attachment Theory. I forget the lady's name. And so we listened to it, and he was talking about, this is how a healthy relationship is. Like, the man is the CEO and the woman's, the coo. And so they're both. Both executives that are running this company, but the CEO is worried about the overall company, the competition, making sure everybody's, you know, functioning inside the company, but the COO is the one dealing with all the relationships, and she's giving input to the CEO so that he can make the proper decisions and know what's going on. And I was like, oh, that's a great analogy as far as business goes, because. Not that a relationship is a business, but, yeah, you know, like, it is. You guys are both executives of. Of a company, if you will, Of a family. You both leads of a family, and your. Your interest has to be aligned. And, you know, you can't just dictate and control your wife because, I mean, you can, but, you know, eventually they want to run you through the ringer and go to another company. And so sometimes it's. It's the company you use your sister company, but. But, you know, it's. It's. It was a great analogy. And we. We actually. We've had those conversations, you know, like, hey, are you going to be like this? Hey, are you going to do this? [01:00:53] Speaker B: Hey. [01:00:53] Speaker A: Or, you know, like, how did. How did. How have you dealt with what you've done in the past? You know, are you gonna Repeat that. And for her to also set her expectations. I will not be lied to. I will not be cheated on. I will not be fit. And, you know, it's funny because she sent me this text, and she goes, you know, I just want you to know, because we were talking about Disney World again. She goes, I just want you to know I will never be in a relationship again where I'm lied to or cheated on, not even once. And she's like, I'm not so worried about, like, the physical aspect of it, because I could take you down. So just so you know, those other two things I won't put up with. And I'm like, look, you know, that's funny. You don't worry about the other two things. But I also think it's funny that you said that. And she was like, yeah, because I could take you down. Like, it's. She's really bent on this takedown thing. And I told her. I was like. I told her. I said, you're. You're like. You're like an adorable, like, kid that, like, you. You have such a big game and, like, you're just adorable. Like, I think it's so cute. Like, you know, so when she said she could take me down, like, you sure can, baby. You sure can. You do anything. You do anything you put your mind to, sweetheart. Anybody tell you, yes, you can. [01:02:17] Speaker B: Oh, man, she sounds. If you do go to, like, Vegas or something, just let me come. Let me be there. Come on. You said. You said. You know what? You know what? I'm gonna play this card. You said that if you did a vow renewal, I'd be your best man. Now, that didn't happen. But. But you still have an opportunity to make right. [01:02:42] Speaker A: You still have an opportunity to make right. Deal? Deal. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Okay, But I will say you don't want to do that. I'm not going to be a good best man. It would be the worst job for me. [01:02:57] Speaker A: You're there, bro. You're there. [01:02:59] Speaker B: All right. I guess we'll shoot machine guns or something in Vegas we don't want to do. [01:03:04] Speaker A: Just you being there would be enough. Now, let me ask you this, man. This is the hard question of the day. Do you think you or David. Who's that? David? What guy? The comedian on fucking. That stupid ass show that you like so much. [01:03:22] Speaker B: Oh, Dave's wife? [01:03:23] Speaker A: No, his wife had an abortion a year later. [01:03:26] Speaker B: She's David Cross. [01:03:28] Speaker A: David Cross. Do you think men should have a say whether their partner has an abortion or not? [01:03:37] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's a tough thing for me because, like, obviously I don't believe in abortion to begin with. So, like, obviously. Yeah, I, I think the man has, has a say in it and he should be saying, don't do this. Actually saw a heartbreaking video from Apologia from Jeff Durbin's ministry where they were talking to this guy and out front of an abortion clinic and his girlfriend was inside and they, like, talked to him and like, convinced him of, like, what this really is. And he had a total change of heart and they, like, sent him in there to get her and he, like, kept coming back and he's like, they're not letting me back there. Like, I don't know what to do. And they're like, buddy, they can't keep you from your girlfriend. Like, go run in the back. Like, just go. Like, don't, don't worry about the legal consequences. Like, it's worth it. And like, he just kept going in and coming back and it was just so sad to, to watch. But yeah, man, I, I think that. [01:04:49] Speaker A: All right, so let's look at the flip side. Let's look at the flip side. He wants to have the abortion, she doesn't. [01:04:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, again, it's not a tough one for me because I just don't think you should do that at all. [01:05:01] Speaker A: But, but put on that hat. Put on that hat of, yeah, abortion is legal in some states. And he's like, hey, babe, you should have an abortion. And she's like, no, I don't want to. Of course, where we're sitting, we're like, she's right. And vice versa. If he's like, don't have the abortion and she wants to, we say he's right. But men don't have that right. [01:05:20] Speaker B: No, no. Like, culturally, we've kind of come to a point where it's com. It's completely up to the woman. And a man, you know, should be able to talk, but not really have the ultimate decision making power. Which sucks because, you know, I mean, a relationship of any sort should be some kind of a partnership, you know, so it's to think that, like, this huge decision, which, like, even pro abortion advocates will kind of call it a huge decision, which is funny because if abortion is what you say it is, it's not really a huge decision. It's kind of like getting a cyst removed or something. [01:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:06] Speaker B: So it's, it's just funny that they still talk like that. But like. Yeah, it just sucks that we've, like, taken that away from the Relationship where, like, there's this unequality now where, you know, and it's all about the framing of it. It's framed as the woman's body and the woman's right to choose and all this stuff. But, you know, it's not really about her body. It's about whether this is a living person. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Here's the thing, man. You. You made the decision to have sex, you know, and at the end of the day, you made that decision. You get pretty pregnant. You got to live with that consequence, you know, make the best of it. [01:06:49] Speaker B: What happen about the. The violin player? [01:06:55] Speaker A: No. And I love violins. I wish, I wish I would have known. [01:06:58] Speaker B: It's. It's a, it's a. I can't remember who said it. It was. I want to say it was like Richard Dawkins or, or some, some big name like that, but it was an analogy. Like, you wake up one morning and someone has surgically connected a world famous violin player to you. And they are gonna live off of your organs and your, you know, life force. And if you disconnect them, they're gonna die. And you've got this choice now whether you're gonna let this person be connected to you medically. And then the argument obviously is like, well, yeah, you didn't consent to having this person put on you in your sleep. So, like, obviously, you know, you've got the right to choose whatever you want to do. You're not, you're not on the hook for this person's well being because you didn't choose this. And it's like, okay, whatever. It's kind of a stupid analogy because what if you were constantly engaging in an activity that could result in a violin player being connected to you medically? I mean, like, that's what you leave out of the analogy. It's like, there's no risk of this happening to you unless you're constantly engaging in some kind of activity that leads to that. [01:08:16] Speaker A: Remove violin player and insert cowbell player. I mean, I got a fever, so. But what do you think the consequence should be for men like that? Put women in that situation because they don't want to stick around. She's like, hey, miss my period, I'm pregnant. Took, you know, 20. Birth control, hard birth control, birth fucking test. And yeah, I'm pregnant. And he's like, I'm fucking out of town. What kind of consequences would be suitable for men that do that? [01:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think that men should be legally on the hook for all of their children to support them and I think there's historical precedent for that. So yeah, I mean I would just consider it no different than, you know, if he had a six year old that he just bailed on, you know. [01:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so I think I know where, I think I know where we stand. I think this was a great topic tonight and I'm kind of excited about this next, this next segment. [01:09:43] Speaker B: The religious view. [01:09:45] Speaker A: No, man, I'm not. No religious. We already know religious people don't like abortion. I'm more excited. The list of key words. [01:09:57] Speaker B: Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were at the end of the document. [01:10:01] Speaker A: Well, I mean, do you have anything else you want to touch on? I don't know what else to really touch on with when it comes to abortion. I mean like, you know, what else, what else do you have to add? I don't know what else to add. I mean as far as the religious aspect, like. [01:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you know where we stand with that. I, yeah, I, I mean I, I would say, let me, let me play devil's advocate for the other side and let me just say if some scientific evidence came out that said like a six week embryo and this has already been disproven so this isn't going to happen. But like if a six week embryo is scientifically proven to not be a human being, then like I would consider changing my view up to that six week window. [01:10:58] Speaker A: What's your take on DNA? [01:11:01] Speaker B: What do you mean? [01:11:03] Speaker A: Well, at conception unique DNA is formed. [01:11:08] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. And that's the thing is that I've only been following this issue since maybe 2013, 2012 maybe. And in that time so much has come. I made like even the, the anti abortion advocates have like have, have conceded that like even now there's like more that we didn't have before in terms of like embryonic science and DNA and all this stuff that's just constantly heading in the other direction of what I was saying, which is that we are just confirming the, the scientific definition of a human closer and closer to conception. And I would argue at this point it is conception. I think embryonically speaking it is, it is a human at conception or at least science would consider it that because it is a complete, completely unique DNA. A completely unique entity in that embryo. Immediately. [01:12:11] Speaker A: Okay, so I want to, I want to argue that the case of that, that nerd that was on the tick tock. If it's just life we're worried about, why aren't you a vegetarian? Why do you kill bugs? [01:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And that kind of gets into the religious view is that. Yeah, I mean, like, if I was an evolutionist or, you know, an atheist or a secularist or whatever you want to call it, then like, I really shouldn't have any hang up about killing a person for specific reasons which I don't actually, you know, Death penalty. Yeah, I, There are situations in which I believe in killing a person. People are created in the image of God, distinct from all other animals and all other creatures in nature. [01:13:08] Speaker A: And what makes us distinct? Conscience. Because that was his argument. What makes us distinct? Because he didn't use God's image. He just said what makes us different from animals and bugs is that we have a conscience or. Yeah. [01:13:32] Speaker B: I mean, ultimately, like biblically speaking, our position in creation is that we are ambassadors of God to steward his creation. As far as what gives us that it's really God's said so, which is not an argument that atheists like. But that's, you know, a pretty good argument. Even if you are an atheist, you know, it could be a conscience, it could be soul, it could be your moral comp. I mean, like, there are so many things that set us apart from the animal kingdom that it's, it's kind of funny to even have like highly evolved human beings talking into microphones and then like asking the question of like, what sets us apart from the animals? You know what I mean? [01:14:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Honestly, the animals all follow suit. The birds fly south for the winter. You know, the, the bears hibernate. This is not something where they sit up and they're like, I'm not gonna do it this year. No, no, no, no. Yeah. [01:14:36] Speaker B: Like deterministic instinct is. [01:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah, they just do it. That's just, that's just, you know. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm tracking. [01:14:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So I mean, like I said, the science is going the opposite direction, but if something came out that could conclusively prove that, you know, that a eight week embryo is not a human being or doesn't, you know, you're not gonna blame the big definition. I probably wouldn't. [01:15:11] Speaker A: But you wouldn't because of your. [01:15:14] Speaker B: That's why I said conclusively. [01:15:16] Speaker A: But your religious views. [01:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but I, I am not principally opposed to a medical procedure that I don't like, which is kind of how people characterize anti abortion advocates. [01:15:44] Speaker A: Bring that down to the layman's. What. What did you just say? [01:15:47] Speaker B: It's not that I just don't like this surgery. It's not that. It just makes me feel yucky. It's not that it, like, I don't like the idea of, like a potential life, you know, not being a life anymore. It's not that, like, no matter what evidence is possibly given to me, I'm. I'm not gonna, you know, side with this. It's that all the evidence given to me proves that this is murder. You know what I mean? It's, it's not really about, like, I've kind of chosen my position and I'm just gonna, you know, no matter what anyone says, ultimately, you know, I'm not worried about that. It's kind of an empty gesture to even say that because I believe the Bible over any quote, unquote science I'm gonna see. But it helps that the science has failed to disprove what the Bible says about children in the womb. [01:16:48] Speaker A: Okay, I get that. I get that. And I mean, that's. I mean, it's hard to argue with, like you were saying, atheists and so forth, secularist, when it's like, well, God formed you, like he knew you before he formed you in the womb. And they're like, yeah, that's only because the Bible says that. But that's honestly kind of where. Where for me, it's like, okay, this is where I would take personally. This is where I'm going to take the turn and now prove the authenticity of the Bible, you know, because again, trust in something is only as good and reliable as the thing you're trusting in. [01:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:39] Speaker A: You know, so, you know, my faith, or I should say that better, my faith in something is only as good as I can trust it to be reliable. [01:17:47] Speaker B: Yes. [01:17:48] Speaker A: And so for that, then I'm not really going to be arguing abortion at that point. I'm going to be arguing the reliability and trustworthiness of the Bible because that to me is where the core of all of it would start is. Well, you know, again, I didn't come to be a believer because my parents were believers. I was trying to disprove the Bible and through that became a believer because it couldn't be disproven. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:18:22] Speaker A: Awesome, awesome. [01:18:23] Speaker B: I think on. On that note, we're on a very fun segment on the show that I've been looking forward to for a long time. [01:18:34] Speaker A: You didn't know it existed until tonight, though. [01:18:37] Speaker B: No, she mentioned this months ago and I thought she should actually come on the show and do it live with us. But you're right. [01:18:46] Speaker A: You remember that. Good for you. [01:18:49] Speaker B: All right. Okay. [01:18:51] Speaker A: Well, I mean, like, because I do remember we had that conversation all Right? Yeah. All right. [01:18:56] Speaker B: All right, so I don't. I don't think we can. I don't think we can get through all 29 of these, but we should do as many as we can. [01:19:05] Speaker A: Where are we at on our time? [01:19:07] Speaker B: We're at 1 an hour 24, so I'd say, you know, maybe 15 minutes, 20. [01:19:14] Speaker A: We'll see how it rolls. All right, what if it's good? [01:19:19] Speaker B: It's. It's gonna be great. [01:19:21] Speaker A: All right. [01:19:23] Speaker B: Okay, so I think we'll just go with each term, and then we'll guess what this means, and then we'll find the answer. [01:19:31] Speaker A: All right, so that's exactly what it is. It's a list of Gen Z words, everyone. And we are going to take turns reading the word and giving an educated guess as to what the word or term means. And then we'll read the actual definition. We cannot see the definition right now. It is in white colored font on a white page. [01:19:51] Speaker B: All right, be honest. Don't you fucking lie to me. Did you look at the answers? [01:19:58] Speaker A: No, no, no, I did not. I did not. I only. I saw these. I didn't even read her. Her. Her thing at the bottom because she has like, the thing on page two. I didn't. I saw that, but I didn't. I looked at him at first and I was like, oh, like, okay, we're supposed to write in the answers. I thought it was like a test, but I more or less just focus on the abortion stuff. All right, you want to take bet, or do you want me to take bet? [01:20:29] Speaker B: Do you know bet? Okay, I'm gonna guess. [01:20:33] Speaker A: I've been known to use it because. [01:20:35] Speaker B: I feel like I know number two. So let. [01:20:39] Speaker A: Oh, number two is easy. Number two is easy. [01:20:43] Speaker B: I might be wrong, though. [01:20:45] Speaker A: I don't really know. I know contextually. Now, mind you, I have daughters that range from 8 to 26, so I. Some of these I'm gonna know you FOMO. [01:20:58] Speaker B: You've got a Gen X daughter. You've got a couple millennials. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's see. All your kids, except for number one, are Gen Z, right? [01:21:10] Speaker A: Bet. [01:21:12] Speaker B: Okay, hold on. Bet. I. I mean, I guess the most obvious interpretation of me is that it means. What are you doing? I see you typing. [01:21:28] Speaker A: I'm trying to highlight it while you answer to see what it is. It's not allowing me. [01:21:35] Speaker B: I think it means, like, I'm telling the truth and you can, like, you can bet on that. Like, Like I. I'm telling the truth. And the. I don't know yeah, no, I would. [01:21:53] Speaker A: I would agree with you, because most times when I'm like, you know, like, hey, let's do this. Like, guys are usually like, oh, bet like, this what you're gonna do. All bet. Yeah, I hear it a lot on the job site with the younger guys. However, I cannot. There is no highlighting it. Can you highlight it on your end? [01:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I can. I can highlight it. [01:22:12] Speaker A: Not the word, because it says terms with their meanings. Lettering and white switch to black when revealing the answer. [01:22:20] Speaker B: Yes. So let me see if I just. Yeah, okay. I can highlight it. Expresses agreement. Okay, so I was wrong. [01:22:30] Speaker A: Really? I felt like you were right. [01:22:33] Speaker B: No, what I. What I was trying to say is, like, you can trust what I'm saying, not, like, I'm agreeing with you. [01:22:41] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah. [01:22:43] Speaker B: Okay. [01:22:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And I actually was using it like, I agree with, like, hey, this what you're gonna do. And they're like, bet. Okay. [01:22:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:49] Speaker A: All right. Cap. No, cap. Easy. Lie. No lie. [01:22:54] Speaker B: True. Cap is a lie. [01:22:56] Speaker A: Cap is lie. No cap. [01:22:57] Speaker B: Okay, let me see. Cap. Cap means lie. No, cat means truth. Okay, very easy. Yeah. God, she is so good at what she does, man. This is awesome. All right, fam. [01:23:14] Speaker A: That's my people. [01:23:15] Speaker B: I mean, it's. It's short for family, but, like, I've heard it. I think it's, like, kind of just addressing the people, if you want to kind of say it that way. Because, like, I'll see memes that are like, fam, I got this problem. And it's like, well, if you're posting a meme with that language, you just mean like, hey, whoever. I'm talking to the group. The collective group. [01:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but I feel like it's my group. [01:23:40] Speaker B: I am so old. Fuck, dude. I never felt so old in my life. I'm trying to explain this. This is such a great idea. [01:23:51] Speaker A: Oh, boy. [01:23:53] Speaker B: Okay, do we want the. The definition on this one? [01:23:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I. I don't. I say my people. [01:23:59] Speaker B: Okay. [01:24:01] Speaker A: Number three, I don't know how you're highlighting. I still can't. [01:24:06] Speaker B: Refers to close friends or a group one feels connected to. Okay. Yeah. So you. You nailed it. It's more what you were saying than what I was saying. Like, like, if I was a town crier and I was, like, down trying to. I was at city hall trying to give people the news, I would have said, fam, but it's more like your. Your inner circle is more like what you were saying. [01:24:37] Speaker A: Fire. I believe fire is fire. I mean, like, like, that's. That's awesome. That's hot. That's awesome. Like, that's cool. [01:24:47] Speaker B: I don't know this one, but in my day, we would have said lit. [01:24:52] Speaker A: Okay, that might. That's even. That's number 10. Wow. Oh, okay. [01:24:56] Speaker B: Okay. All right. [01:24:58] Speaker A: So what's fire? [01:24:59] Speaker B: I think we just. Cool. Just fire. This is. It's such a funny definition. Describe something excellent or cool. Such a dictionary definition. Something excellent. I'd get my ass beat for saying excellent. Flex. [01:25:26] Speaker A: I. I think I know flex. What do you think it is? [01:25:29] Speaker B: Flex is like. Like when you're flexing. So, like, when you're showing something off. [01:25:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's how I view it. Like, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I want to say flex. Like I'm flexing on them. Like, I'm. I'm showing off. You know, I'm showing off my. You know, showing up. I got something nice. [01:25:51] Speaker B: Yep. That's the definition. To show off. [01:25:55] Speaker A: Awesome. [01:25:56] Speaker B: But it can also be a noun. It can also be a noun. It. You can flex, but then you can also have something that is a flex. Like. [01:26:06] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, Flex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. For sure. Fomo. Fear of missing out. [01:26:13] Speaker B: That's not a Gen Z term. I had that. We had FOMO and goat. We had the goat. [01:26:21] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I am the goat. I. Yeah, I. Dude, I just said it the other day. I was like, when you're the goat to my lady, she was like, you don't think I can beat you well than you are? Yeah. I was like, dude, I go in, she goes, I'm gonna beat you in games. I said, that's been my. That's been my whole life. My daughters always want to beat me. She's like, are you serious? I'm like, yeah, when you're the goat, everybody's coming for you, you know? I mean. [01:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah, this next. [01:26:48] Speaker A: Make sure it is. Well, make sure it is the race of all time. [01:26:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:53] Speaker A: I'd hate to be wrong. [01:26:54] Speaker B: What if they pulled a fast one on us and it. Yeah, no, it's the greatest of all time. Yeah. [01:26:59] Speaker A: Like, get off. [01:26:59] Speaker B: Just make a different acronym. [01:27:02] Speaker A: Mm. [01:27:05] Speaker B: Get off that Texas. [01:27:13] Speaker A: I'm just saying. I don't know. [01:27:14] Speaker B: Next one. This next one is only contextual for me. Gucci. [01:27:18] Speaker A: Oh, that's Gucci. [01:27:19] Speaker B: But I mean, I gotta assume it means, like, extravagant. Like, awesome. [01:27:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Cool. It's another cool. [01:27:28] Speaker B: Fancy. [01:27:30] Speaker A: Yeah, That's Gucci, man. [01:27:36] Speaker B: Something. Yep. Makes. Means something is good or excellent. [01:27:40] Speaker A: Dude, I'm telling you right now. We're hip. [01:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah. I Don't feel hip. I. When I was trying to explain fam, I did not feel. [01:27:53] Speaker A: But you knew it was referring to people, you know. [01:27:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it's short for family. I didn't. [01:27:59] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. Low key. High key. Dude, I feel like I've never used high key, so that one throws me off. But low key, yeah, I'm like, low key. That's cool. Like, hey, keep that. Like, don't tell nobody. Keep that on the download. Like, that was the download for us. [01:28:16] Speaker B: Here's where I think I'm gonna get tricked, because that's what it would have meant to me 25 years ago. I don't know if that's how they're using it. Hi. [01:28:27] Speaker A: I don't either. [01:28:28] Speaker B: To me, feels like it would be the opposite of that. That you would be like, hey, I'm proclaiming something. This is not like a secret. I want everyone to know. High key. [01:28:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Stupid. [01:28:42] Speaker B: I know. [01:28:43] Speaker A: Imagine if I came to you was like, hey, high key. You know, I mean, like, just saying high key sounds fucking Asian. [01:28:51] Speaker B: Have you met my friend from Hawaii Haiki? He's Samoan. Okay. Low key is subtle. High key is overt. [01:29:03] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [01:29:04] Speaker B: All right. I'm still in the game. I'm still in the game. [01:29:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:08] Speaker B: Dude, lit. We already talked about these Gen Z dorks. Think that that's their word. [01:29:17] Speaker A: You know what I don't like? I hear it all the time from. From number three and her boyfriend. That's op. It's not on the lit on the list. And I don't know what it means. [01:29:29] Speaker B: Op. [01:29:31] Speaker A: Yeah, like they'll say like, oh, dude, like, cuz they're playing Fortnite and they're like, oh, that gun. Like, like that gun is opie. [01:29:44] Speaker B: I'm Googling it. This can't be what it means. Original poster. So like on Reddit, if you posted a thread on Reddit, people would refer to you as the op? [01:30:04] Speaker A: No, they said they. They almost. They use it interchangeably with op. No, because ops is like, that ain't right. That ain't right. [01:30:16] Speaker B: See, I made the mistake of typing this into the abortion chat GPT that I was using earlier. And it's probably thinking I mean something else because OP is. [01:30:27] Speaker A: Is like enemy. [01:30:29] Speaker B: Got it. Overpowered. Really comes from. It comes from gaming. Like when a weapon, character, or ability is way too strong, people now use it more broadly. Like that outfit is op. Or her vocals are op. Really good. Unbeatable, top tier. [01:30:49] Speaker A: Okay, okay. All right. [01:30:52] Speaker B: Well, lit means describe something exciting. So yeah, that's That's. Yeah, just mid tier. Just. All right. [01:31:03] Speaker A: Been with a couple of those. [01:31:04] Speaker B: Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney's mid. [01:31:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I consider her mid. [01:31:14] Speaker B: Now, is this a typo? [01:31:16] Speaker A: I don't know if period T. Or period. I don't know if it's a typo. I was wondering the same thing, but period. [01:31:24] Speaker B: Oh, and the def. The definition of mid was mediocre. [01:31:28] Speaker A: Okay. And I think period is like. Like, the stamp on it. Like, it's like period. Like, I feel like the same way my parents used it. Like. Like, we're done. Period. [01:31:42] Speaker B: Lock, stock, and barrel. Period, dot. [01:31:47] Speaker A: There you go. [01:31:51] Speaker B: Let's see. An emphatic way to end a statement. Okay. [01:31:57] Speaker A: Period. Yeah, yeah. Some of these are. Some of these carry from us. [01:32:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. These are definitely. Not all just. [01:32:07] Speaker A: Slay's easy. Slay is. Is fucking. [01:32:10] Speaker B: It's like. [01:32:11] Speaker A: That's. It's like to be kills. Yeah. That's killer, you know, that's brutal. [01:32:19] Speaker B: To succeed or perform exceptionally well. Okay. [01:32:25] Speaker A: Oh, she slayed it. Yeah. Okay. Stan, I feel like that's like an obsessed fan. [01:32:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's from the Eminem song. Right. See, I always thought that the. The Youngins were using it differently because they couldn't possibly know that song, but. [01:32:48] Speaker A: Well, then he's got a documentary out right now called Stand. [01:32:53] Speaker B: Okay. [01:32:55] Speaker A: And. And I want. [01:32:56] Speaker B: They. They might not know where it comes from. They might just use it. [01:33:00] Speaker A: Yeah, makes sense. [01:33:03] Speaker B: All right, let's see. A very dedicated fan. Okay. [01:33:07] Speaker A: Yep. [01:33:08] Speaker B: See, if I wasn't thinking Eminem, I would have just thought, oh, that's like the new Leonard. Like, you're just a dork. [01:33:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Like Karen. It's like the male Karen. [01:33:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:33:21] Speaker A: Leonard. [01:33:27] Speaker B: Or herb. That's what. Herb. That's what it was on the Herbs coast. Yeah. [01:33:31] Speaker A: Herb. Really? Wow. [01:33:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Sus. Sus is short for suspicious, Right, Yes. [01:33:41] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah, I get that a lot from. From number four. You're sus. [01:33:46] Speaker B: Bitch. I paid the fucking bills. Don't call me. [01:33:52] Speaker A: Feel like I say that a lot lately, man. [01:33:57] Speaker B: Suspicious or questionable? Yeah. Okay. The T. I know the T, and I know where it comes from. [01:34:06] Speaker A: That's right. That's gossip. [01:34:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you know the origin of tea spill? [01:34:13] Speaker A: The tea? Yeah, I don't. [01:34:16] Speaker B: It's that meme. [01:34:17] Speaker A: Oh, wait, wait, wait. Wa. The English. The English. [01:34:23] Speaker B: Huh? [01:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah, T. The English man. [01:34:27] Speaker B: Telling you that's where it comes from. Yeah. [01:34:30] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Boston tea. Part Boston. [01:34:33] Speaker B: It's shout out Boston. Who definitely stopped listening to us after this episode. It comes from that Meme of Kermit drinking the tea. And he would always say something kind of shitty when he's drinking. Like, it. It was always, like, blank, but that's none of my business. It would be like, your president obviously has dementia, but that's none of my business or something. And he's like, drinking a cup of tea while he says it. So I think that kind of became, like, interchangeable with gossip and, like, you know. [01:35:15] Speaker A: I could picture it coming from women's tea time. [01:35:19] Speaker B: Ah, you might be right. [01:35:21] Speaker A: Because there's no men there. [01:35:23] Speaker B: Let me. Let me google there's. [01:35:24] Speaker A: Yeah, because there's never been there. And that's the time where they get to kind of like, tell their about Wendy down the street. [01:35:31] Speaker B: Mm. Man, it would be so hilarious if I thought that's what it was. Spill the tea. Oh, no. RuPaul's Drag Race. [01:35:59] Speaker A: Great show. [01:36:01] Speaker B: I've heard. So in the drag culture in the 90s, T. Oh, are you serious? T stood for truth. In particular, African American queer communities. T could mean truth and testosterone. Saying spill the tea meant tell the truth in the 90s drag scene, yada, yada. [01:36:33] Speaker A: Wow. [01:36:34] Speaker B: It did in drag. Slain the slang. The tea became synonymous with juicy gossip. Spill the tea. Tell me the truth. Tell me the drama. Fuck. It had nothing to do with Kermit. [01:36:46] Speaker A: Women, be sure had nothing to fucking do with women. [01:36:49] Speaker B: It was men. Dude, we did it again. High five. We fucking dominate everything. [01:36:57] Speaker A: And T was not tea A. It was T, the letter standing for truth. And then I had no idea evolved into the pun T. The origin is more recent than older, less related theories involving tea parties. And the origin is in the drag culture. [01:37:17] Speaker B: Okay, so I didn't completely make it up. That's good. A lot of people thought think the word T comes from the Kermit meme, which usually ends in but that's none of my business. Okay, so I nailed it, even though I was wrong. The Kermit meme started in 2014 as a way of saying, I'm just pointing something out. Gossiping, but staying out of it is sort of the what it meant. Because the visual joke involved tea. People linked it directly with the laying tea. Damn. [01:37:51] Speaker A: Okay, but the. The word T T, E A was cemented by talk show host Wendy Williams, known for sipping tea while discussing gossip and viral Kermit the Frog meme that featured him sipping tea with the caption, but that's none of my business. [01:38:11] Speaker B: Well, I should really fact check before I say stuff now. [01:38:17] Speaker A: Wl. I'm. I'm assuming is Win, loss. [01:38:20] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't even think of that. I have no idea. So, like, win or lose, I'm gonna. I think this. Or like, what would he. [01:38:35] Speaker A: Well, how would you. Let's. Let's use it in a sentence. Because I don't think I'd be like. Like, I'm not playing baseball. Like, what's your W? I'd almost be like, wl. I can imagine somebody be like, wl. Like, almost like, wtf? Like, what the fuck? [01:38:52] Speaker B: Win or lose? I'm drinking six beers tonight. I'm only a third of the way there. I don't know. Do we want to see what that one means? [01:39:07] Speaker A: I do. I do. Because I'm. I'm out. [01:39:11] Speaker B: W is a win. L is a loss. That doesn't really tell me what context to use it in. [01:39:18] Speaker A: Oh, so it's kind of like what she did up top. Low key, high key, slash in between two words. So it's like, hey, that's a W. Take the L. Okay. This one gets me. Cuz I see it on trucks out here. Yeet. [01:39:35] Speaker B: I have no idea. [01:39:38] Speaker A: And they're always lifted. Trucks. I honestly thought it was a country, like. Like young word, like country guys use from a song. [01:39:51] Speaker B: It sounds like something a ghetto person would say in celebration, like, yeet. [01:40:00] Speaker A: But that's where I think it's also kind of white trash. Less ghetto, more white trash. [01:40:06] Speaker B: It's some kind of exclamation. [01:40:14] Speaker A: What's that shit that makes bread rise yeast? Never mind. I was like, I dated a girl with a yeet infection once. [01:40:23] Speaker B: Oh, nope. We were. Wait, wait, wait. Did you say a yeet infection? I blew past that one entirely. What does it mean to throw with force or an exclamation of excitement? So I yeeted my. My phone right across the room. [01:40:50] Speaker A: Serious? [01:40:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:51] Speaker A: I would never say that. It's more syllables than throwing. I threw. I threw my. My phone. Why would I go yeet? Why would yeeted Or. Well, is there a past tense? Like yet? You know, like I yet my phone across the room. [01:41:09] Speaker B: I think it would have to be yeeted. I'm gonna eat this. I'm gonna yeet this burrito in your face if you don't get the. Out of my parking spot. [01:41:20] Speaker A: This burrito, dude, the picture you painted in my mind, I'm walking up to a car. I'm. I just got my burrito from the drive thru. I want to park and eat it, but somebody took my spot. Now I'm getting on my car and I'm like, I'm going to yeet this burrito in your face. Don't get on my parking spot. [01:41:42] Speaker B: I did have an incident in a parking lot recently, and I don't want to get into the details, but my dad witnessed it, and I apologized to him. That's. That's how bad it was. We. We got home, I parked the car, and I looked at my dad in the passenger seat and I said, sorry about that. [01:42:13] Speaker A: We're gonna get in the details in the next episode. I gotta hear about that. All right, all right. We're almost done. What's. Oh, I. I thought we were. I feel like, yikes. Yikes. I feel like that's something that. What's that guy's name on Scooby Doo? Nevermind. Yeah, yeah. Yikes. I mean, it's scared, right? Yikes. [01:42:41] Speaker B: Like, that's creepy or that's weird. Yikes. [01:42:45] Speaker A: Scared me. Scared me. [01:42:47] Speaker B: I feel like that's from the office. I feel like Michael one time said something, like, really enthusiastically, and then Jim was like, yikes. [01:42:58] Speaker A: All right, what's it. What is it? [01:43:01] Speaker B: See? An exclamation of surprise or dismay. [01:43:07] Speaker A: We nailed it. I felt like we did, at least. No, ghosting's easy. [01:43:12] Speaker B: Maybe the dismay. Maybe dismay. But, like, I kind of thought it meant, like. Yeah, you're creeping me out. Yikes. Ghosting, it's where you ignore someone, right? [01:43:26] Speaker A: Yeah. You stop replying to their text. [01:43:28] Speaker B: Ending communication abruptly. Yeah. Oh, this next section is relationship specific terms. That's why. It's how you know that in the answer section, she wrote that. [01:43:44] Speaker A: Oh, ick. [01:43:51] Speaker B: Just means, like, your personality is like, grow repulsive. [01:43:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:43:59] Speaker B: Like, ick is if you got frosted tips. [01:44:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, Yeah. [01:44:05] Speaker B: I think. Let's see. [01:44:07] Speaker A: I'm picking up on what you're throwing down. [01:44:10] Speaker B: Sudden disgust towards someone previously attractive. Okay. So if you. If it was someone that you already were kind of into, then they could give. [01:44:19] Speaker A: He showed up with tips. [01:44:22] Speaker B: Yeah, frosted tips. Or. Or in the middle of your first date, he, like, talks about how much he loves Trump or something, and then you get the ick. [01:44:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Or like, you guys get done eating dinner, he's like, hey, give me a few minutes. I gotta go drop. I gotta go drop the kids off at the pool. Yeah, yeah. [01:44:42] Speaker B: Or like, hey, I'm. I'm so excited for tonight. I rubbed one out right before I got here. [01:44:49] Speaker A: Do you like anal? [01:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I get it. Do you like anal? Hey, hypothetically, now, Riz. I know. Do you know Riz? [01:45:01] Speaker A: I don't know. Riz. I think. [01:45:04] Speaker B: Guess. [01:45:05] Speaker A: Oh, Riz. Dude. Like, if someone. Huh? I'm gonna feel like an idiot if someone was like, man, that's Riz. I'm thinking, like, that's sweet. [01:45:23] Speaker B: You're not sweet. You're. You're not far off. I haven't actually highlighted the definition, so I don't know for sure. I think Riz is like your way with the ladies. Like, you got a lot of Riz. Like you're. You're really good at talking to chicks and, and picking up on chicks. [01:45:41] Speaker A: Let's. [01:45:42] Speaker B: Let's see. [01:45:42] Speaker A: Nice. I'm gonna throw that out there. When someone says something, I'm like, that's the Riz. [01:45:47] Speaker B: Watch you not use it. Right. Charisma or ability to attract someone. Okay. [01:45:55] Speaker A: I do have the riz. Nice. All right. Situationship. I mean, that's just this relationship of the situation. [01:46:06] Speaker B: I. I feel like it's like a complicated relationship. Like you don't. [01:46:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like you're not. You're. You're not exactly. That's exactly it. You can't define it because you're not technically dating, but you guys have an interest in one another. You guys hang out all the time, but you can't consider yourself an item. [01:46:27] Speaker B: I feel like you're probably right, but it almost feels like you might be at like the end of your relationship and like things aren't going well and you might expect to be broken up soon. [01:46:40] Speaker A: I feel like that's when you're 40 and you're married and you're like. Yeah. The situationship is like, you know, he's. [01:46:47] Speaker B: Moving out next week, so it is closer to what you said. [01:46:53] Speaker A: It's a not. [01:46:55] Speaker B: It's a non committal romantic relationship. So it's not that it hasn't been defined. It's that. [01:47:03] Speaker A: It's that you are fucking. It's the fwb. [01:47:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. [01:47:09] Speaker A: Just for you. That don't know what that means out there. It's friends with benefits. [01:47:13] Speaker B: Yeah. For you. Gen Z's. [01:47:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Simp. I feel like someone that just kind of like sucks life. Like. Like they're just a. Like they're pathetic. Like you're a sin. Like you're pathetic. [01:47:32] Speaker B: Contextually, I feel like this is specific to guys in relation to women. Like if you like you'll take a lot of. From a woman. Like you're subservient to a woman. [01:47:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh yeah, I can see that. I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. Like that guy's a pussy. [01:47:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Like he'll like henpecked. Or whatever. [01:48:00] Speaker A: Yeah, he'd be a fag in our generation. [01:48:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Someone overly submissive to a crush. Okay, so it's not even like a relationship. It's just a crush. [01:48:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I get it. I get it. I can see that working like that for sure. Yeah. [01:48:17] Speaker B: Who's not when you're trying to seal the deal? [01:48:22] Speaker A: Yeah. You fucking let it all fly. [01:48:24] Speaker B: It's just words. [01:48:27] Speaker A: You don't have to believe it. I don't know. I don't know what eight means. [01:48:32] Speaker B: I mean. [01:48:34] Speaker A: I mean, I know I. I know. [01:48:37] Speaker B: I know what I ate. [01:48:38] Speaker A: I know when I use the word, I'm usually wiping off my mustache and beard, saying, I'm usually like, I ate that shit, you know? [01:48:49] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay, okay. So let's go with that. And let's say this is, like, this is like a very pleased chick because she's eight. [01:49:02] Speaker A: I like it like. [01:49:03] Speaker B: Like, this is a woman in charge of the relationship. She's eight. [01:49:07] Speaker A: Now, on the job site, we would say, like, in construction, on a job site, she's an eight, but in the real world, she's a four. [01:49:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Work wife can be an eight, even if she's a four. All right, let's see. Let's see. Coming up. Hot. Nope. Doing something exceptionally well. Oh, okay, this is a new section. Again, this is terms originating from black culture. And aave the is a v. E. African American vernacular English. Ebonics is what she meant. [01:49:58] Speaker A: I don't know how I knew. I didn't know that. You know. [01:50:03] Speaker B: Doing something 8. Doing something exceptionally well. [01:50:06] Speaker A: I know. I think I know the rest of them. Yeah. I don't know. 8. I. I've never heard 8, but I've heard busing. Clap back. Drip woke. [01:50:15] Speaker B: Okay, so busing is, like, cool, right? [01:50:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm busting, bro. Like, I feel like it's short for busting. Like. [01:50:27] Speaker B: Okay. Something very good. Often food. Clap back. I don't know. [01:50:34] Speaker A: Clap back, dude. That's like, you say something to me and I don't clap back. Like, you put me down and I'm not gonna clap back on you. You know? I mean, like, so it's like a. I feel like it's retaliation. [01:50:50] Speaker B: Retaliation. Okay. Yeah. Put this in white people language for me. Thanks. A sharp retort. Yeah. So come back. [01:51:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. All right. [01:51:05] Speaker B: Drip is like. [01:51:06] Speaker A: That's your jewelry, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So is it jewelry or clothing or both? Like, I feel like it's your outfit. [01:51:15] Speaker B: Outfit style. [01:51:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I say outfit style. Yeah. [01:51:20] Speaker B: Stylish clothing. [01:51:21] Speaker A: Yep, yep. [01:51:23] Speaker B: Last one. Now here's the thing. I think this is different because I know woke originated in the African American community and I think it meant something a little different than how we use it now. So I'm gonna say, I mean, it's the same definition because you're like awake to the reality you're red pilled is basically what it means. You're awake to the reality of how things really are. But I think specifically, specifically in this context, it's about white people oppressing black people. [01:52:00] Speaker A: Ooh. See, it's like I'm going to argue. [01:52:03] Speaker B: The fact that it's a white supremacist culture. [01:52:06] Speaker A: Okay. So I first heard it from black people more or less. And this is probably not even the right way they're using it either. I'm now kind of rethinking they were using it in the sense of like. So the context was like Apple users are not woke because they don't understand the. You like what you can do with a Samsung. And they. There was all these videos on like you're woke when you use a Samsung. So much so that I use that on a black girl when she saw my Samsung at a bar and she laughed her ass off because she knew exactly what I was talking about when I referred to. I heard I was woke because I had this. And she was like, that's true, that's true. I know. And she just started laughing. So, so like hip. I feel like it is, yeah, like, you know, the red pill. Exactly. I just don't think it's race related. I think it's like, you know, the, you know, the, the truth about something else. [01:53:09] Speaker B: Yeah. So the, the first way that I heard it before it became synonymous, political pussy. You're. You're a pussy. The first way that I heard it was you're like, you believe in conspiracy theories. You're like awake to what's really going on. But it was, but it was specifically black culture. It was always black people saying it like you are awake to 911 being an inside job. That kind of thing. [01:53:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I. So I'd say aware, maybe for short. [01:53:45] Speaker B: Aware of social and political issues. Okay. So essentially like what we use it as now. But yeah, it's all that. Yeah. Damn. That was. [01:53:59] Speaker A: I can't wait to see what next week, next week has for us. [01:54:02] Speaker B: She better fucking top that. I don't know. [01:54:05] Speaker A: She better come with it. I, I appreciate the tab, to use. [01:54:10] Speaker B: A Gen X term. [01:54:14] Speaker A: I like, I like that she used the tabs on this. Very well laid out. Yeah. Guys. That's pseudonyms. I was gonna say synonymous. That's pseudonyms. With Jane Rowe and Henry Wade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:54:32] Speaker B: That's the end. All right, we're done. [01:54:34] Speaker A: I think that's the end. I ain't got nothing else, man. [01:54:36] Speaker B: We're going on two hour mark at this, right? At the two hour mark. Perfect. [01:54:41] Speaker A: All right, brother. [01:54:44] Speaker B: Next week. All right. Bye. [01:54:45] Speaker A: Bye. Late.