027: Big Time Negger

[00:00:00] Speaker A: So we took the baby to meet her great grandparents, and I guess I just forgot or just assumed that this was handled at some point. I found out the night before we went that they didn't know we had a kid. [00:00:23] Speaker B: How did they not know? [00:00:27] Speaker A: She just didn't tell them. She hasn't really been talking to them, but. But then when we got there, they. They already had gifts and stuff for her, so I guess her brother had sent them pictures and told them, but. Wild move. Wild move. [00:00:45] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:00:46] Speaker A: I didn't know what to make of that. That's all I got. That's the whole story. I just. I had to tell you that. I couldn't not tell you that on the podcast. [00:00:56] Speaker B: Did they know you married okay? [00:01:01] Speaker A: Yeah, we. We went to visit them on Christmas four years ago, and we were already married then. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:01:12] Speaker A: Damn, that's a lot of pills, dude. [00:01:14] Speaker B: There's 12 of them, bro. [00:01:18] Speaker A: They're all the same thing. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Oh, they turned me into water inside, bro. Speaking of pills, tonight we're talking about red pills. But before we get that. Spoke to doing. Well, he just gave up the cell phone. [00:01:40] Speaker A: Gave it up? [00:01:43] Speaker B: Why? I don't know. But anyhow, he did. [00:01:47] Speaker A: So he's got a landline. [00:01:49] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I've been calling is what we've been talking on. [00:01:53] Speaker A: All right. [00:01:54] Speaker B: Oh, by the way, I think episode 21 is good to go. I listened to about 50 minutes of it. Someone's name's still in it at like, the six minute mark. Guy at the mustache, like yours does poetry. [00:02:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I. I didn't. We didn't say anything bad about him. [00:02:19] Speaker B: So I. Oh, okay. [00:02:20] Speaker A: I left that in, but I'll. I'll take it out. [00:02:22] Speaker B: It don't matter to me. He ain't really my friend. [00:02:28] Speaker A: Damn. I'll let him know. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Yeah. So we're talking. Oh, you got. You got stories. [00:02:36] Speaker B: I got colonoscopy this week, dude. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Ooh, yeah, fun. Is that what the pills are for? [00:02:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Taking the day off, going to get the procedure done. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Everybody keeps asking me, first time. [00:02:52] Speaker B: You know, it's my first time professionally. [00:02:59] Speaker A: I've. I've been known to get a few things snaked up there, but number three's. [00:03:05] Speaker B: Boyfriend was like, so is this voluntary? I was like, when Aren't they. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Prison? [00:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:18] Speaker A: There was a Shane Moss bit where he talked about trying to have anal sex, and it just, like, he couldn't figure it out. It was just so difficult. And he just stops at one point and he goes, well, gee, Willikers. How do the gentlemen in the prisons do this? I couldn't do it with a willing participant. I can't imagine having to hold someone down. [00:03:47] Speaker B: I made a deal with my ex wife. I said, look, I'll let you go in there once, but if I let you do it once, I get it forever. Anytime. [00:04:00] Speaker A: She grab, she said, okay, cool, I'll never do that. [00:04:03] Speaker B: She grabbed her masterpiece out. It wasn't big, you know, average size. I couldn't even get the eye of it in. I mean, like, she must have just kissed it. And I was like, never mind. I don't ever want to do it. I don't ever need it. [00:04:24] Speaker A: You win. You win. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Uncle. Uncle. I was like, how. How deep are you going in? She's like, I'm not even in yet. I was like, oh, really? Yeah, I'm good. I don't need it. So it's cooked up to be anyway. [00:04:39] Speaker A: Oh, that's hilarious. Okay, so what prompted this? Is it just time for it or is there something going on? [00:04:46] Speaker B: Annual physical. And the lady was like, when did you get. Whenever you had a colonoscopy. And I was like, ah, they did it through my blood last time. And she was like, I don't think that's a colonoscopy. I think that's like something else with the colon. It's a prostate exam. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's what they did. So, yeah, I gotta go get a colonoscopy. [00:05:14] Speaker A: How was the prostate exam? [00:05:17] Speaker B: There's blood. Blood drawn. [00:05:20] Speaker A: Oh, they don't. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah, they didn't. [00:05:23] Speaker A: They don't do that anymore, dude. [00:05:24] Speaker B: All through. Do it all through blood now until you're like, I don't know, 50 or something. [00:05:30] Speaker A: How pissed are you if you're the last guy who got the fingers? [00:05:36] Speaker B: I'm pissed I didn't get the finger. [00:05:41] Speaker A: No, no, I don't know what you mean. I don't know what you mean. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Could at least worked up a good date through it, you know what I mean? But yeah, so I'm taking these 12 pills, and tonight on pseudonyms, we're talking about the red pill here, Neo. [00:05:59] Speaker A: The manosphere. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:03] Speaker A: Did you call me Neo? [00:06:06] Speaker B: Oh, I sure did. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Then you've got to be. What's his name? Morbius. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Oh, it is Morbius. I was wondering. I was just gonna go. Lawrence Fishburne. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Lawrence is a great name too. Or I could just call you Fishburne. Now we'll go with Morbius. Even though I'm notorious for just calling you by your Real name and bleeping it out anyway. [00:06:33] Speaker B: All right, so here's the thing. Here's the thing, Neil. I didn't really know there was a movement. I'm not gonna lie. Didn't had no clue about this movement until you said you wanted to do it. I looked it up, and I know in a couple episodes ago, I had brought up some about Manosphere or something like that, and I kind of understood what it meant from the word. But yeah, it's about the manosphere. It's. It's a movement. I didn't know it was a movement. I mean, how shitty are we that our movements, like, don't make it all the way. Like, me too movement. Heard all about it. Red pill movement. Nothing. Heard nothing, dude. [00:07:19] Speaker A: Now this is actually kind of a manosphere take. Would. Would be that we have such a feminized culture that the. The women movements, you hear all about them. And then the. The men's movements, you don't. [00:07:38] Speaker B: That or by the way, you're real. You're sometimes in and out. You're real rasterized, digitized. [00:07:47] Speaker A: Let me do this real quick. [00:07:50] Speaker B: I just figured we had better shit to do. [00:07:56] Speaker A: We're building America. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Right? Not worried about our tampons floating around the pool. I'm gonna kind of give a brief overview of what this red pill movement is. It's primarily found within the manosphere. Yes, It's a collection of online communities and ideologies centered around the belief that society is structured in a way that disadvantages men. Due to the influence of feminism. Adherents who identify as red pilled view feminine. I'm sorry, feminism, as promoting misandry, which is hatred of men, and view themselves as having awakened to this perceived truth, a concept borrowed from the movie the Matrix. And the movement generally believes that men are unfairly disadvantaged in society due to feminism. I think people in general are disadvantaged for certain movements. I think women, if there's a man and a woman going for a position, I think the woman is generally looked at dependent on how many women are an executive or in that sort of position within their company. But I also think the same when it comes to race. If there's a certain race that's lacking in the company, well, they're gonna promote that race, whether that's white at a dominantly black company or black at a predominantly white company or whatever. But I just think that's. That's the case. And so I do believe when it comes to females in the workplace, it's easier for them to call sexual harassment than men. But that's all I got. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that's an interesting point that, like, whoever kind of has the upper hand is quickly kind of the game is kind of fixed against them because they want to overcompensate for people who have the upper hand already. So you're constantly kind of seeing that. I mean, like, they. There's just this huge. Maybe not huge, but I heard about a lawsuit against Harvard because Asian people are getting denied because there's so many Asian people applying. They have the highest grades, so so many of them are, like, qualified to go to that school. So many Asians are getting into the school that they're now, like, having to deny Asians because they have to say yes to more people, more Hispanics, more, you know. So, like, there's. There's lawsuits going on now from Asian people who, like, you know, that's that. [00:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah, rightly so. I mean, if I worked my ass off and had to come home and not play with my friends because my parents had such a strict school homework be done first type thing. Yeah. I would expect, if I applied to Harvard and I had all the qualifications that I should get in. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. [00:11:13] Speaker B: E. Harvard. [00:11:16] Speaker A: Is that a real thing? [00:11:17] Speaker B: Let them go online? No, man, but let them do, like, what's that? Phoenix? Remember getting those advertisements for, like, Phoenix University of Phoenix? Let them do that one, you know? [00:11:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I mean, like, I don't know. It's. It's. It's just one of these things where, like, not everyone or. Or no one is entitled to things in that space, you know? So, like, when. When things seemed, you know, stacked against you when it comes to a job or something. Well, it's like, it's not your job. You're not entitled to have that job. It's the person hiring who gives out that job, you know, so it's just there. There's all that kind of touches on a lot of, you know, minorities or perceived prejudices or whatever in. In society. But how do you. How do you feel about the. The summary you gave of the manosphere? How do you feel generally about their perspective? Do you find some truth in it? Some. [00:12:22] Speaker B: I think they seem like a couple cool guys. [00:12:26] Speaker A: I'll say. The only people that I'm really aware of are, like, people who aren't really in the manosphere but are kind of called manosphere, like Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson and people like that. It wasn't until I started researching this that I became aware of, like, the real, like, I'll see clips or something of Like a cool black guy who just got, like, four sluts to come on his podcast and embarrass themselves, and he just sits there and calls them stupid and argues with them and debates them and stuff. I see clips like that, so I know that it's a thing, but I don't know who these people are. You know, they're not, like, as popular as people who are, like, called manosphere as an insult. You know what I mean? Like Joe Rogan, who I would not put in that category at all. [00:13:17] Speaker B: No, he's a realist dude. Like, when he brought up the fact that. And this was years, I want to say, like, good 10 years before they gave Trump all the female Secret Service people, Joe Rogan was like, dude, you give me a cold. And I could still be. Have the worst cold I've ever had, still go home, beat up my wife and any other female in my household. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:44] Speaker B: He's like, you take someone like Shaq knocking on the front door of the White House, you think a female has a fighting chance, or two or three females have a fighting chance against him. Not without their weapon, you know, and you see it all the time. Like, when you have those little petite female cops that, you know, you see, like, the news report, like, she got her. Her. She got wrecked, you know, because this guy didn't want to fucking surrender, and he beat the crap out of her. Like, yeah, good for her for, like, wanting to be a cop, but, like, if you're five, two and a buck 20, you might want to think this through. [00:14:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Tell me if this was out of pocket. My wife has these family friends. She was their nanny for a long time, from, like, birth until about 8 years old. And they're. They're almost 13 now. And we were hanging out with them. They're twins, boy and a girl. And the girl was saying how she could beat up the boy anytime she wanted. I. I was just like, hey, I'm just. I'm going to lay it out for you in a way that no one else is going to, okay? I'm going to tell you the truth here. Any drop you get on him, you know, you pin him, you know, you. You know, you give him a punch or in the arm or something, anything like that. It's because he let you, okay? He would never come at you with his full force, and that's why you can beat him up. If he did come at you with his full force, like, he actually wanted to hurt you, he would hurt you badly. So, like, be nice to him. Don't don't go around talking about how you can beat him up. It's. It's embarrassing. It's belittling, you know, like, don't. Don't be like that. You know, and my wife thought I was being funny or mean or something, but I meant. [00:15:42] Speaker B: I think it's truth. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:44] Speaker B: Yeah. I think it's. [00:15:45] Speaker A: Don't talk. [00:15:47] Speaker B: You're. Again, like, since you reconnected, you. You. You've been rasterized for sure, and you're in and out. But I get what you're saying. I get the gist of what you're saying. [00:15:58] Speaker A: All right, I'm sorry. [00:15:59] Speaker B: When your brother is not going full force on you. [00:16:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:16:04] Speaker B: And I guarantee you she's probably going 90%. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. [00:16:10] Speaker B: She's using everything she has to pin him down. Yeah. [00:16:14] Speaker A: And. And not. They're not punching each other. That's another thing is like, they're not really fighting for their lives. You know what I mean? [00:16:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:24] Speaker A: See, when I turn off the WI fi, the service is so bad that I have LTE. I don't even have 5G. And then when I turn the WI fi back on, the WI fi is so slow. [00:16:38] Speaker B: You. You gotta talk to your parents about this. You know, you gotta sit them down, have that tough conversation of, look, mom, dad, we live in a pretty good county. From what I heard, it's one of the richest in the world. You're gonna have to step it up. [00:16:57] Speaker A: I'm trying. [00:16:58] Speaker B: It's fine. [00:16:59] Speaker A: I'm trying to start a successful podcast, and you guys are not supporting that successful endeavor by having this cheap ass Internet. [00:17:14] Speaker B: So how are you adapting? We'll get back to man, red pill. But how are you adapting? [00:17:20] Speaker A: Pretty good. Pretty good. You know, I'm just applying to jobs every day. I'm doing real estate school online, taking care of the baby. You know, it's. Is what it is. It's. I wish I could get a job and stop just being around all day, but it's cool for now. It won't last long. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Right on, right on. Good. Good for you. It's good, good, good progress. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:53] Speaker B: What about. Where are you looking for work? [00:17:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been applying to the same job I had in Oklahoma and similar jobs. My neighbor told me he'd pass my resume on to someone who, I don't know. It's some kind of design thing and they need people to, like, put together, like, printed items that the designers make and stuff. So he. You know, there's. There's a few things like that before I left. I used to work for an unnamed chain of craft stores, we'll say. And before I left, on the advice of my friend in the office, I looked up the district manager for this area and I took his email and phone number down and he told me, if you want a job, if you want to get a job at the store, just send this guy an email with your resume and explain what you used to do for the company. And he'll probably hook you up with a job in your area. So I've got that in my back pocket if I really want to do that. They do start with like pretty good pay considering the kind of job it is. So if I, if I did need to just get any kind of job, I could, I could do that probably. [00:19:25] Speaker B: Right on, man. Let me ask you about this red pill real quick. It does say that there is like some radicalization, violence to women. I feel like I would have heard about some violence to women stuff. [00:19:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, isn't there always. What are we, you know? [00:19:50] Speaker B: But they make it sound like it's like out in the open. Public violence. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know of an example of that directly tied to this community. Couldn't. Couldn't tell you. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I see that. More of the white trash kind of zone. Yeah, the white trash. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Yeah. It's probably just a lot of overlap with a lot of other movements. You know, I got a list of like, not specific quotes, but like the common beliefs in the red pilled manosphere. And I thought we could go through these and talk about the good and the bad and the truth and the falsehoods. And I'll try not to just hilariously agree with all of it. Just to be a dick. Hyper women are hypergamous. Is that the word you use? [00:20:53] Speaker B: What is that? [00:20:55] Speaker A: I don't know. Let me see. It didn't tell me what the word. [00:21:00] Speaker B: I never used the word Gammas. I thought of Incredible Hulk immediately. [00:21:04] Speaker A: The act or practice of marrying or dating someone of a higher social class or status. Okay, so here's the claim. Women are biologically wired to always seek a higher status. Man. [00:21:20] Speaker B: I don't know. I mean, I. I think that's common. I don't necessarily think it's. It's a rule. [00:21:29] Speaker A: No, no, I wouldn't say any of this is a rule. But I mean, yeah, if you've got like. [00:21:35] Speaker B: I think it's common. I've. I've definitely seen more relationships where women. Where women are in a relationship with men that have Higher paying positions, if you will. [00:21:50] Speaker A: All things being equal, who is gonna go with the guy who makes 30 grand a year over the guy who makes 200? [00:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's kind of what I see. [00:22:04] Speaker A: I think it kind of depends on a lot of other factors of like how you're treated and, you know, I don't know, here's the misogynistic twist that it gives me. Women are disloyal and will leave a man the moment a better option appears. Did you just weigh yourself? [00:22:28] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Let's see how much weight I'm losing while I'm taking a crap every five seconds. [00:22:34] Speaker A: How much was. [00:22:37] Speaker B: Was 194. No, I think that that's how much you lost. No, one pound. No, I think a woman will leave a man over treatment before leaving a man over position. [00:22:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:22:57] Speaker B: And when I say a woman, I'm talking about a real woman. I'm not talking about these little like young women that. Oh, reminds me of a story. I got a story for you. Not these young women that are trying to get like a sugar daddy. [00:23:12] Speaker A: Yeah, give me the story. [00:23:16] Speaker B: All right, so man, what are you. Are you moving or something? That was my knee loading boxes. [00:23:24] Speaker A: That was my knee hitting my desk as hard as I possibly could. [00:23:31] Speaker B: All right, so my dad, since he last left, now mind you, he's retired. He makes about 3,000amonth. Okay. He sent a girl who's 22, 500amonth. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Yeah, you told me about this last week. [00:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And within her nudes. And so she reaches out to the local family and she's like, hey, I release these nudes on the Internet. Holy. If you guys don't pay me, we're like, we. We ain't paying you. [00:24:06] Speaker A: I don't give a. [00:24:09] Speaker B: So, yeah, did you see them Pittsburgh for this other. No, I did not see them, nor did I want to. [00:24:15] Speaker A: But did she send them to you? [00:24:16] Speaker B: Pittsburgh? She called my mom. Okay, so he moves to Pittsburgh for this 22 year old, right, that, you know, supposedly bought a house with fifteen hundred dollars he sent her. So I'm talking to my mom about all this and she's like, yeah, you know, and he's moving back now because she's not there. He's borrowed too much money from his friends out there, so they're not gonna like help him out anymore shows. And then I found out that he's gone to the AirPoint airport three separate times thinking a woman is going to arrive, that he sent money to to buy a plane ticket to see him. Like this guy Dude. Oh my gosh. But yeah, she's like, he just wants to find a 20 year old chick that he's attracted to. I'm like, does he look in the mirror? Does he see that from a stroke, he has no teeth, he's overweight, he can't hardly talk. That, I mean, he could talk, but it's just, it's frustrating sometimes because he slurs a lot because of the fact that he's fucking had a stroke. Like, this guy is. He's. She's like his hair. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Two questions. Do you think this behavior is because of the stroke? And how do you lose your teeth because of a stroke? [00:25:42] Speaker B: First time he lost his teeth from biting down on a wooden spoon. So he didn't swallow his tongue. [00:25:48] Speaker A: Oh, so like a seizure? [00:25:51] Speaker B: Yeah, the first one was a seizure and so he like lost some teeth in that second one I think is just losing your teeth. I don't know. But he doesn't have all his teeth. And then do I. So I asked my mom that. I said, hey, does he sound normal when he talks to you? She said, yeah, he sounds totally normal. She's like, he just thinks he's gonna. Because I was like, this is erratic behavior. This is crazy talk. And she's like, nah, he thinks, he thinks he still has it. You know, she's like, he thinks because he has a full head of luscious hair and his brothers don't, that, you know, he's good looking, man. Dude's never been good looking. And if anybody is a great specimen for good looking bald dudes. Mom. Come on, come on, come on, come on, ma. [00:26:46] Speaker A: It's your baby boy right here. [00:26:54] Speaker B: All right, so what's another statement they got? [00:26:58] Speaker A: Well, see, that's the thing. These are so hard to argue with because they're not rules. They're, you know, I'd say like majority true. But women are not logical, only emotional. The claim is that women can't make rational decisions and are ruled by their feelings. And it's used to justify why men should dominate decision making or avoid serious relationships. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Okay, so there's, there's the first. I do have a book that talks about the alpha male now. Okay, you know what, man? This, this goes down, but it's not about. It's. Its title says alpha male, but in the intro he says it's for any relationship that has an alpha and a beta. It's not necessarily for an alpha male. I did have a neighbor, though. Dude was jacked up as far as, like, muscles. Like, dude was probably like six Six built like a brick house. I mean, the dude just was built. And he. I remember him handing me a book talking about the alpha. And I still have it somewhere, I don't know where. But he was like, he was all about like, you know, these women are dumb. Like, you got to read this book to get, you know, you, you'll understand once you read this book. Like, like it's about being an alpha male. And I was like, okay. And I read like maybe the intro. And I was like, yes, ain't my book. [00:28:23] Speaker A: Was it the Rational Male? [00:28:28] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:28:29] Speaker A: By Rallo Tomasi? Because they say that he. This is like a foundational red pill text. [00:28:38] Speaker B: You know what? No, I want to say it had the word alpha in it. [00:28:42] Speaker A: Okay. [00:28:43] Speaker B: It's on the living room. [00:28:46] Speaker A: But on the coffee table. [00:28:48] Speaker B: I think. Yeah, I think the males that they're talking about are alluding are the females I should should say that they're alluding to. I can see a lot of females on social media. Tick tock. Those interviews that the guys calling them sluts, those females do sound stupid. And I would say those are most likely like when you talk and you, you say the statements that you're reading off those are the females I'm thinking of. I'm like, okay, I could see that being, I could see that being being like one of those females because yeah, some of those females are morbidly obese. Gross as hell. Like I know you've seen that one where she's like, you know, I want a Mexican man. I want him to be, you know, this and that, I want to do this. And he's like. And it's almost just like, who do you think you are with the demand you have when you look like that? And she looks like Jabba the Hut. Is that the right person? Like, she don't have a round face. It just goes straight from like top of head and just keeps getting wider as it goes down. Like neck and everything is, is, is at an angle and so. But she's like a Mexican chick. She's got like a gap between her teeth and she's just like. And she doesn't have a good rack on her either. So it's not like, okay, like she. No, no. Built like a 13 year old boy. Just talking about what she demands out of a man. And. And then there's those interviews where they ask girls, they say, do you think a man's less of a man because he doesn't know how to change a tire? And they're like, oh, yeah, definitely. And they're like, well, do you think a woman's a less a woman because she doesn't know how to cook a home cooked meal? And they're just like, no, no. And it's like, I mean, those are the females I think of when you read these statements. I don't think of the businesswoman. I'm not thinking of the single moms. I'm not thinking of my children. Like, I don't think of number one being like that. I don't think of number two. I don't really know number two that well anymore, so. But I don't think number two or three are like that either. I mean, you know, they. I don't know. I don't know. But I also think maybe it's a household you're raised in. I mean, we go back to the missing parent in the household for, for the females that I feel like you're describing, you know, those that like, have these expectations of men that are, you know, not meetable. And now you got a group of men that are just like these. [00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely like a hoe culture kind of thing. That and that. And they purposely get those idiots on the podcast to berate them and make fun of them, you know, So I mean, like, that's part of the reason why this is so closely aligned. [00:31:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And honestly, those are the females I think of. I don't think of again, the single moms trying to, you know, work in a 9 to 5 to, to provide for their children. I'm thinking of like these girls that think that because they're good looking or those women that think because they're a woman, they, they can have these high expectations of men that are a little ridiculous. If you. Yeah, if you don't mind me saying. [00:32:20] Speaker A: How about a woman's value is based on her youth and beauty claim after 30 women are used up leftovers, quote unquote dehumanizing belief that reduces women to their sexual desirability, encourages grooming or dating much younger women. Now I completely agree with that. I think it's more like 35. [00:32:45] Speaker B: Okay. I'm not gonna lie. I felt the same way. I was like, okay, well this actually might be a cool group to join. I kind of think the same way. And not, but not consciously. Like, I don't consciously think that way. But like when you're like, hey, we're going to go, I want to hook you up with a friend. And she's 42, I'm already thinking she's not aged well. And There is a good chance that, you know, she probably had been around the block a couple times, you know, since. Since her youth. I don't know that those are the initial thoughts that pop into my mind, though. I don't want somebody that's older than my ex wife. I'm sorry. You know, there's. There's a little dig in that. You know, there's a little dig where she's gonna go to a family event and she's gonna see some 29 year old standing there that's just like, you know, hey, how are you? You know, not even intimidated by her. [00:33:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. My. I found out that my wife's grandfather met her grandmother when he was 25 and she was 15 and they got married. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Ashton Kutcher there, huh? [00:34:13] Speaker A: And they got married before Diddy. And her parents had to like sign paperwork and stuff for them to get married. And so she was telling my parents about it after we got home. And I was just doing my thing, my joking thing where I'm just like, hell yeah. I like gave her a high five. I was like, that's so cool. And she looks at me with all seriousness and she goes, oh, it's cool to marry teenagers. And I was like, no, what? I'm doing my thing. Of course not. It's. It's not funny if I have to explain it. No. Yeah, it's not cool to marry 50. I don't know, maybe back then it was the 50s. [00:34:57] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah, it was a different time. Yeah. See a part of the Mormon church. [00:35:03] Speaker A: No, no, they're Catholic. [00:35:06] Speaker B: No, he's just a pedo. All right. [00:35:12] Speaker A: Still a womanizer to this day. Dude, he. He's a real estate agent and he had to. He's. He's in a wheelchair and stuff. But he's 87 and he's still selling houses. But he had to get a partner to like handle the legwork and stuff for him. No pun intended. And, and he showed me the flyer and. And he's like, oh, yeah, you know, she's. She's great at what she does. And, you know, she's not bad looking either. Just like, yeah, man, sure. All right. [00:35:45] Speaker B: That'S cool. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. He's always. [00:35:47] Speaker B: I was listening to. I was listening to. I don't know, man, I forget. Forget the name of. It's a weird name. It's like Bach and Rochelle or some. Anyhow, it's a Texas radio station and like, some girl, it was like, you know, will you go on a second date with me? And we'll pay for it. If you go on a second date with this guy or this girl that calls in and she was like, she doesn't. They don't know. The other party's listening on the phone. Oh. And they're like, hey, we got an email. You know, sounds like it was a pretty cool date. Like, would you want to go on a second date with this person? And. And. And they're like, you know, tell us your side of the story. And this one girl was just like, no, I'm cool. Like, I don't want to do this. I don't want to air it out. And they're like, come on, come on, come on. So she finally tells it, and she's like, yeah, he took me to his family apple farm, and everything was great. She's like, as soon as he left the room, his grandpa sat next to me and was like, hey, if he can't get the job done, I know I can, you know? And, like, she goes, he puts his hand on my. On my. On my thigh and starts talking to me, saying, like, you know, these apples still work, if you know what I mean? You know? And she was like, I just. I can't. I can't go on another day with him. So he's like, are you. All of a sudden, he pipes in, are you serious? And she's like, who is this? And he's like, oh, yeah, we got so and so on the line. He's been listening. She's like, dude, it was just weird. And he's like, that's Paw Paw. Come on. Like, papa's just messing around. She's like, nah. Made me feel uncomfortable. And he's like, oh, come on. It's just pop. That's what Paw Paw does. And you know. And she's like, nah, dude, this is just weird. And she's like, what if I see him in a family funk? She's like, that's Pawpaw. Dude, it was. It was so weird. Like, he was just justifying grandpa's peto. Peto ways. Yeah. Good thing your wife stands up for it, though, you know? [00:37:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And she's. I mean, I've done similar things. I mean, it was nothing like that. Crazy. I don't even remember what it was, but I've done similar things justifying my uncle, you know, I'll just be like, that's just how he. What do you mean he. He gave you a back rub? I mean, he did you a favor. [00:37:58] Speaker B: What do you mean? [00:38:00] Speaker A: It's just how he is. It's Always been. I don't know. He's got a heart of gold, that guy. [00:38:12] Speaker B: I thought you were going to say your daddy. You said your uncle. [00:38:15] Speaker A: No, no, no. My uncle's very touchy with people he doesn't know. But it's never weird. He's never like putting his hand on your leg or something. He'll just like come up behind you and give you a shoulder rub, which you know, in front of 20 people. I don't know, it just hits differently. It's just not a creepy secret thing to me. I don't know. [00:38:35] Speaker B: I feel like I'm bothered but not bothered. Like how come you never introduced me to your uncle? [00:38:48] Speaker A: I'm trying to think, man. There's a decent chance you have met him. [00:38:52] Speaker B: No, dude, I actually haven't met really any of your family. You guys always did like the Palm Spring thing. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Alright, so what's another statement they have? [00:39:10] Speaker A: Women are only real quick. [00:39:12] Speaker B: I almost do agree with them still. Like I really, that really almost sold me on the movement. That 30 year old. [00:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean like there's truth to it. It's like it's not like there's not value in youth and beauty, you know, so like. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Yeah, and I think in today's time and age there's a good chance you meet a 30 year old. She's already got a 10 year old. Yeah, she's already had her experience in the field, if you will, as well as him. But you know, I'm not the one with the luggage. You know what I mean? [00:40:00] Speaker A: Yeah, they, they, I think they get into that later on too about like the double standard of promiscuity. But the next one up we've got women are only good for sex, reproduction or domestic roles. Often said outright or implied in high value woman checklists such as virginity, obedience and beauty. Career women are often mocked as unhappy, masculinized. Masculinized or delusional. [00:40:36] Speaker B: I feel like this is kind of where the tide shifts. Mm, that's a really high bar. Like the high value. They have it nailed. Like that's high value for sure. It's almost, it's almost like you might as well just get a slave at that point, bro. [00:40:58] Speaker A: I think that's kind of like. Yeah, that's not far off from what they want from what I'm hearing. [00:41:07] Speaker B: That's what it sounds like, man. I mean, obedient again, virginity that got lost in the. When they were in their teens. Yeah, you know, I don't know. Church girls in their teens that haven't really messed around even. [00:41:25] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that's like something I literally haven't thought about since I was like 13 as like something I wanted in a woman. Just because it's been off the table since that, like, it's just, I don't remember the last time I even met someone who was a virgin still, you. [00:41:48] Speaker B: Know, like, yeah, I met more virgin dudes than I have virgin girls. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it's way easier. Yeah, way easier to keep that substitute. [00:42:02] Speaker B: All right, what else you got? [00:42:05] Speaker A: This one. I'm gonna try not to be hilarious with this. Consent is a game or an obstacle. It's the belief that women say no when they mean yes. Encourages emotional manipulation, negging, and persistent persistence until submission. Undermines the importance of clear affirmative consent. So essentially, you do have to get consent, and it's very important that you do so. But all women want it, and it's your job to kind of manipulate and neg them into submitting to what you want. [00:42:49] Speaker B: All right, I'm just getting some water. I'm not pissing. I already know where your jokes are going. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Well, if you thought I was, I was gonna say I'm a, I'm a big neger, then you're absolutely right. [00:43:12] Speaker B: I, I, I, I somewhat kind of agree. And here's why. Talking to a 31 year old woman who does already have a kid who's like 10 or 11, and you know, she doesn't want to do anything. I made my, but I made my position very clear. I want a Christian woman who values her relationship with the Lord, who understands my relationship with the Lord and goes to church. And I said that basically on the first night of us kind of like reuniting. And since then she's like, yeah, no, I totally get it. And she's made comments like, oh, I want to be a good church girl, but like, she'll come over, we'll go in the pool, and then she's just like, I want to hug you with my legs. I'm like, oh, hug away. And you know, we start hugging and, you know, touching and stuff. And then she's like, no, I don't want to kiss you. I don't want to go any further. And I'm like, what, what is, like, what is going on? Like, honestly, because it's, it is, it is misguiding, you know, but then like a week ago, we won't talk for a couple days. And then, you know, a week later she's like, hey, you know, I want to hang out. I'm, you know, I've had a couple drinks and, you know, and I'm like, it's just. But she's also not a hoe. Like, I've known her for three years. I've only known her to sleep with one guy in those three years, and he was the guy that moved in with her and, you know, like, played dad to her kid, if you will. [00:45:02] Speaker A: Sorry, am I just about. Are we gonna pretend this isn't happening? [00:45:06] Speaker B: This is my second trip, dude. I thought you might have heard the water splashing, dude. It's just. It's just straight liquid coming out, man. [00:45:16] Speaker A: You know what? [00:45:17] Speaker B: I might as well just do my podcast from here. You know, I'm sitting in that chair rocking, because my stomach is like. This hurts. [00:45:25] Speaker A: I. I can ignore. I can ignore where you're sitting, but the facial expressions would. You start to have to push. It's like, what really gets me. The struggle on your face that comes and goes. [00:45:41] Speaker B: Because it's like, have you ever tried to separate water from solid? This is just water. And yet it feels like it should be a solid. And it's just. It's killing me, bro. Like, this is literally the eighth time today. Like, I got home, my daughter's like, let's go to the pool. I'm like, how about we don't. And no, I went. I went. I went down to the pool. And then she's like, get in. I'm like, nah, I'm good. And then I told her, and hour later, I was like, hey, I gotta go. Let's get out of the pool. Let's go. Like, 10 minutes ago. Because, yeah, this is. This is not one of those. This is not one of those you mess around with. [00:46:17] Speaker A: You know, we're gonna be dealing with a trailing type situation here. A mutual friend of ours had a colonoscopy, and let's call him Edward. And after you're done with your colonoscopy, because they shoot you up with this gas that, like, makes you expand. So then afterwards, you're just farting out all this gas, and this nurse came in and was, like, doing something while he was just farting out all this gas, and he just hears, oh, my gosh, Edward. Oh, my gosh. We went to high school together. I had the biggest crush on you. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Let's just hope that works, dude. Because honestly, she could be in there for the fart. We get married. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah. The only thing is, I don't think it smells because you're just shot up with this gas. So there's nothing behind it. [00:47:16] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the pun on words. Shitty part about it, because, like, what fun is a fart if it doesn't smell? [00:47:26] Speaker A: I think I could have some fun. [00:47:28] Speaker B: Stretch marks is picking me up. Like, he begged to pick me up. [00:47:32] Speaker A: That's weird. And, oh, can I go with you to get your asshole gaped? [00:47:39] Speaker B: Well, I think he's excited because he knows I'm gonna be coming off of whatever gas they're gonna knock me. Right. [00:47:46] Speaker A: He thinks you're gonna be suggesting. Vulnerable, easily manipulated. [00:47:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm kind of excited. So I'm shaving tonight. No, I'm shaving tomorrow morning. [00:48:02] Speaker A: Who are we kidding? I'm gonna narrat. [00:48:06] Speaker B: I thought about it because I was looking at it today, this morning after I got out of the shower, and it's like, it's naturally stained brown. And I'm like, that's gonna be. That's not cool. I thought about going to get it bleached today. [00:48:20] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:48:24] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I don't know who's gonna be in there. I want to make sure that they're like, I like that. You know, I like. I want her to look at him, be like, I'd like that. [00:48:34] Speaker A: You know, I don't know. If you want someone who's super into your. You know, it's. [00:48:40] Speaker B: Let's set our priority what kind of games I'm into. [00:48:43] Speaker A: I'm getting to know them. I'm getting to know them, and I don't like it. I don't like it at all. [00:48:53] Speaker B: Okay, so back to the thing, I think. Okay, so I'm very clear. When I go on dates, I'm not gonna try and make a move on you. There's been too many me too movements going on to where I do that. You back away. I think you want it. When you're saying no. Next thing you know, I end up with a case. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Mm. [00:49:13] Speaker B: So I won't say that off. Off the top, but, like, if I go in to kiss her and she. And because I'm feeling like that's the mood and she backs away, then. Yeah, that's the next statement. Now the ball's in your court. You know, I'm into you, and. And that's kind of where I left it with the 31 year old was, you know, I'm into you, so just know I'm not making a move anymore. I'm not gonna, you know, you want to do your little leg hug. Cool. We hug. I'm not trying to, like, touch you or caress you or tickle you or anything that's all you now. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah, now that's wise. Yeah. And I don't. I don't know. I'm just. I'm not at all interested in having to manipulate someone into going along with me, you know? [00:50:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:12] Speaker A: Although some people like that. I don't know. It's a weird thing. Like, some people like the. The hunt. [00:50:19] Speaker B: I like the hunt, but I want. [00:50:21] Speaker A: To throw a grenade in the water and just kill all those fish and just scoop them up. I don't care about the hunt. [00:50:30] Speaker B: I like the hunt. But the hunt for me is getting into the relationship, if you will. It's not trying to get into her pants. It's like, can I have her be crazy over me as I feel I might be at this moment about her? Yeah, yeah, I get that sleeping part is easy. [00:50:55] Speaker A: For neggers. [00:51:01] Speaker B: Why do you keep saying that? What? What? Tell me what that is earlier. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Negging is when you. You're, like, mean to a chick to get her to like you, and it 100% works. Big time negger over here. [00:51:22] Speaker B: And I naked a time or two. [00:51:23] Speaker A: I am voting for that to be the title of this episode. Big time. Okay. Feminism destroyed society. Claim feminism ruined marriage, the family unit, and family behavior. Quote, women don't want good men anymore or we need to roll back women's rights. I think we totally agree with that. Moving on. [00:51:52] Speaker B: So I do somewhat agree with Feminism has room society to an extent. Some of the surveys show that, you know, women in America. This survey was only done in America. But women in the corporate world would forfeit, if you will, like, having children. They were like, no, because it's going to set back my career. It's going to. Xyz. Usually had to do with their professional career. Had nothing to do with them not wanting children. Had everything to do with them saying, like, hey, it's gonna, like, no, I don't have time for that. I'm in a high, high position or an executive position where, you know, like, kids are just not something I'm. I'm thinking about. You know, I don't think that has to do with feminism, but I definitely. I can't say that I think it has a. Has a. A distant backbone of feminism of wanting to, like, kind of, you know, be a female in their position. And then at that cost, there's no. There's no family unit. [00:53:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I would agree. [00:53:09] Speaker B: And I'm not against that. The only reason I'd be against is because of the, you know, other countries. You know, take Mexico, Mexico and take your little wife you know Italians, they're not stopping. They're like, five, six, seven, eight. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You know what I mean? They're just like, let's make these gorditas and. And keep rolling. [00:53:36] Speaker A: It's a great slur for Mexican kids. Gorditas. Oh, hey. So we were trying to list our childhood crushes last week. I remembered a big one, and I'm interested. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Oh. [00:53:55] Speaker A: To see how you feel about this one. Because it's a bit of an odd one. [00:54:02] Speaker B: All right. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Kirsty Allen. [00:54:11] Speaker B: Kirsty Alley on Cheers. Yes. Kirsty Alley in the Weight Watchers commercials. Not so much. Yeah, not so much. It was like after look who's Talking to Kind of like came and gone. She went, like, downhill. For sure. [00:54:29] Speaker A: For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I was. I was a big Cheers guy when I was a kid. I watched Nick at night religiously. So all those shows, that's a perfect lead into number seven. Wi. Modern women are. I love that quote. Crude, crude generalization aimed at any woman who dates, dresses how she wants, or uses dating apps. Promotes slut shaming and double standards, such as praising men for sexual conquest. Shaming women for the same. [00:55:09] Speaker B: I don't know if I agree with the last part. What was that last part? Praising men who. [00:55:15] Speaker A: For sexual conquest. [00:55:17] Speaker B: But shaming women. Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that. As far as the slut part of it. Outside of this. This. This girl will call her. Call her kidney. Outside of kidney. Most women I meet. Yeah, they're. They're down. They're down to. To get it on right away. There is no, like, let's run a background report or anything. That's just like, let's do it. And there's been some good times. You know, I like the whole spitting in my mouth and I spit back in your thing, but, you know, the. The next day when you find out their belief system and they're atheists and they really don't. It's kind of. It's kind of hard to be like, yeah, I can see life with you. [00:56:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I think there's been a general shift to. I think that's kind of what's behind a lot of modern feminism is making men and women totally equal. And I think that's why birth control and abortion is such a huge part of that debate, is because it's the one thing that you cannot get around, is that men are not physiologically on the hook for that kid at all. They can leave town. They can not take your call. You know, you are pregnant. Like, there's no getting around that, you know? And I think that's why controlling that in their bodies is such a huge part of modern feminism. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I could see that. I could definitely see that. But again, I don't think two wrongs make a right. So I'm not, I, I don't think like, oh, well, because he's not sticking around, therefore abortion should be good. I think we should have harsher penalties on men that, that, that aren't sticking around. [00:57:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's almost like the, the argument became like, well, if they're not sticking around, then I don't want to have to stick around either, so to speak. And it's like, well, why is that the conversation we're having? Like, why, why are we not just talking, you know? [00:57:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Instead of like, hey, let's get stricter laws, let's get fast, faster acting laws. You know, he bails town. Well, you know, you, you tie some onto his social where he can't get a job ever. Yeah, you know, something, but not the whole, let's into life. [00:57:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fucked up. [00:57:58] Speaker B: I kill a pregnant woman, I get double homicide. [00:58:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Number eight. Women lie about rape or abuse for attention or leverage. A deeply harmful myth that dismisses real victims. Promotes fear based beliefs about false accusations being common when they are, in fact statistically rare. [00:58:30] Speaker B: I agree and disagree. I've met women that have done that. I don't think it's a common thing. [00:58:35] Speaker A: No. [00:58:36] Speaker B: But then again, I don't know, because I've met a lot of women who have had some sexual abuse in their life, and I'm not one to say that that wasn't true. I mean, how do you do that? They're opening up with you and you're like, I call bs. Your uncle never did that. You know, I mean, like, how do you. They're sitting there being vulnerable and you're like, nah, I don't believe you. [00:58:58] Speaker A: What, because he wanted to give you a shoulder rub? Come on. No. Yeah. They used to say that 6% of rape allegations were false, which is so low that, like, anyone who tells you that happened. I mean, statistically, yes, it happened, but I gotta think that that number is a bit higher now in light of the MeToo movement, because we just saw so many high profile cases of women completely making. I mean, like, there's no hard evidence that Brett Kavanaugh ever met the woman that was accusing him of rape. And it was national news. [00:59:47] Speaker B: Yeah, but there's also no evidence saying that he Hasn't. [00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah, but you've got to prove guilt. It's not about proving innocence. You know, like, that's not how the justice system works. So. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how it works. What? [01:00:05] Speaker B: That's not how it's supposed to work, but that's how it works. [01:00:07] Speaker A: Sure. Yeah. [01:00:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:08] Speaker A: I'm not. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying, like, yeah, it is on this. I mean, it's been 50 years, first of all, so I don't know why, you know, this is even coming out, you know, in. In 2018 or whenever that was. But I am not gonna lie. [01:00:24] Speaker B: I don't know who Brett Kavanaugh is. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Oh, he's a Supreme Court justice. And right before. Right after Trump. [01:00:31] Speaker B: Guilty. [01:00:31] Speaker A: Yep. Right after Trump appointed him, this woman from his college came out and had this whole story about how he, like, locked her in a room during a party and, like, barricaded the door and wouldn't let her leave. And I think that was the whole thing. But, like, this dude, he's pretty old. [01:00:53] Speaker B: I would take it. [01:00:54] Speaker A: No, I mean, I think he was. I think they were in their 50s maybe. [01:01:01] Speaker B: So, like, how old is he now? [01:01:04] Speaker A: I don't know. Let's see. I'm talking out of my ass. [01:01:07] Speaker B: I mean, times are different back then. People were marrying 15 year olds. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Let's see, he is now 60, so he would have been about 54 back when this was going on. 53. So we're talking about the 80s. We're talking about college in the 80s. But I mean, he had. [01:01:31] Speaker B: Yeah, in the 70s, he had. [01:01:33] Speaker A: He had calendars from college that showed where he was on certain days, who he was with all this. I mean, that was more than you would ever expect someone to have in the way of evidence. This woman couldn't substantiate that they were ever in the same place at the same time. You know what I mean? And 40 years later, unless. [01:01:55] Speaker B: Unless he knew where he was going and this might bite him in the ass later, and he was like, you know what? I'm gonna make up some calendars and I'm gonna keep them for 50 years. Who keeps calendars for 50 years? Guilty. You're right. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Give this guy the chair. This guy is a fucking maniac. I would say that is a level of diabolical ness, if that's a word that would, like, really concern me. If he did something wrong and he had the foresight to make fake calendars and hold on to them for 40 years. Wildest move. I've ever. [01:02:35] Speaker B: Diabolicals. No, I know nothing about the case. I just know that it's hard to tell outside of like when they're taking you to court and you're just sitting there with them on the patio the morning after and they're like, yeah, you know, I don't believe in God because, you know, my uncle was at the, you know, always told us we had to go to church and, you know, the stuff he used to do to me. And you're like, I mean, how do you look at me? You're like, yeah, I call, no, I got to meet your uncle. I gotta get his side. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm really gonna have to get both sides of this before I weigh in. Yeah, that's a totally different thing. All I was saying was that in light of some very high profile cases where things were probably lied about, I. I would have to assume the statistics are a little bit higher for false accusations than they used to be, but only a little bit. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Yeah, but there's motive behind all those too. The motive behind all most of those is. Is finance. [01:03:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:39] Speaker B: So I mean, like, they look at me and they're like, this guy ain't got. You know. But then again, again, like, could they honestly be misconstruing things or saying, sure. Could they also honestly be 100 true? Sure. I don't know. But I do know, like, I don't know. I don't know if it's very common, but it sounds like it's a very common thing that most women you meet, somebody in their family did something to them. [01:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. Men should lead. Women should submit. Sometimes rooted in religious or traditional rhetoric, but taken to extremes. Women shouldn't speak in relationships. Obedience is expected. Questioning a man is seen as disrespect. Becomes misogynistic when used to justify domination and control. [01:04:39] Speaker B: These guys should start a dating app because I would probably be on it. I'd be like, that sounds perfect. She only she don't get a talk. But she can, right? Like she can talk. If I wanted her, like, if, if I said it was okay, she gave an intelligent conversation. [01:04:58] Speaker A: It's gonna hurt when you rip the duct tape off. But yes, she can theoretically use it wisely. [01:05:08] Speaker B: Use it wisely. No, I don't necessarily agree with that. I do see it more in Christian households though. [01:05:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:19] Speaker B: Sometimes out of fear because they are playing the role and not really like living in their freedom. Other times it is based on tradition. It's it. And it's not like a. I have to do this because of tradition, it's more or less a mutual respect of, like, he's with his buddies or, you know, like, I'm safeguarding our marriage. So therefore, I don't really talk when, when, when there's not females around, you know? And I don't know, man. I don't know. I, I, But I do. Like, I think you take your parents, for example. If your mom was like that, that'd be pretty boring conversation. I think your mom's a great person to converse with. [01:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:12] Speaker B: You know, I do think there's things to offer. I just think that it just depends, you know, I, I think when, when women are quiet, ah, it's a slippery slope because when I'm sometimes around women that are beautiful and they are quiet, and you could tell that it's a, It's a, It's a, A fist that's ruling the house and not a love that's ruling the house. I put on my cape and I become Captain Save a Hoe real quick. I'm just like, hey, girl, I could treat you so much better. You know what I mean? Like, and I don't say that. They just see it, because I go into the house and I'm like, oh, no, I got it. Don't worry about it, man. Don't worry about it, Miss. I got this. Yeah, I take out your trash. Ain't no worries. Yeah. Oh, you like being dumb. However, you have to have a dominant. You have to have an Alpha in the bedroom. You both cannot be Alphas in the bedroom. That's just not gonna work. [01:07:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I, it's gonna sound like I'm making this up just to Virtue Signal, but this is, this is who the. [01:07:19] Speaker B: What the is Virtue Signal. [01:07:21] Speaker A: Oh, that's where, like, you know when everyone posted a black square on Instagram for Black Lives Matter. [01:07:32] Speaker B: I did not, but go on. [01:07:34] Speaker A: Okay, so, like, during the 2020 riots. [01:07:37] Speaker B: I don't follow those people. [01:07:38] Speaker A: Every. Everyone posted a black square on Instagram to support Black Lives Matter. And that was widely viewed as a virtue signal because it's essentially nothing. It means nothing. You don't necessarily even believe in this, but everyone did it to kind of follow the group and to basically, like, signal to, like, hey, I believe the right things. You know, I'm. I'm one of you guys. Like, I'm a good guy, you know, that kind of thing. [01:08:08] Speaker B: Don't forget about me, Aurora. Yeah. [01:08:14] Speaker A: So I, I was gonna say, since I got married, this instinct has all but vanished because I just don't give A. Anymore. But when I was single, I was a lot like that too, where it's just like, anytime a guy kind of said something off kilter to his wife, I would just. I'd challenge him, like, in front of her, you know, just to like, you know, just put my foot in the door a little bit. Just let him know, you know, there's. [01:08:43] Speaker B: I don't think, like, he does, babe. [01:08:44] Speaker A: There'S life outside of this hell you're living in. [01:08:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's. It's honestly, like, it's a horrible card for a man to play, like, oh, I rule my household. Cool. I'm gonna go in and care for your household and watch who your lady's with. You might not even know she's with me later on. Yeah, been there. But what was I gonna say when you were talking about Black Lives Matter? I forget. Oh, was it you that told me George Floyd is like five years sober? [01:09:25] Speaker A: No, but I saw a lot of posts about that. Congratulations to that guy. Beautiful. [01:09:37] Speaker B: All right, what else you got? [01:09:39] Speaker A: Last one. Alpha males deserve many women. Women should remain loyal to one man. It's a double standard that glorifies male promiscuity while demanding female chastity promotes polygamy. Light thinking, such as a high value man should have options. [01:10:02] Speaker B: All right, so do I agree with it? No. Here's the situation. We could definitely joke about it, but the situation is when you love someone and you let a third party in, damage is going to be done. Now, me and big country did this at the end of our marriage. We were like, hey, invite a female in. Well, I had to hear about that. You spent too much time with her. You, you know, you, you know, like, you guys had your moment. And I'm like, she was peeking, you know, like, what am I supposed to do? Just be like, oh, gotta go handle this over here? No, dude, like, she was. You could tell she was, you know, there, you know, and then it was, you know, well, you had your turn, My turn. And that was just a total turn. I couldn't even. I couldn't even. Couldn't even be aroused by it, bro. So much so I left the party and went and sat in a chair. I was like, this, this isn't for me, guys. Sorry. This is. I. I can't get behind this movement. Like, nope, I gotta move you to a charger. But so. And I've. I've had. Since being single, I've had couples talk to me, you know, Man. One lady talked to me. Beautiful woman, just beautiful. And she was like, hey, you know, like, you know, talk to him about possibly doing, you know, a threesome and, you know, like, having a. A third party involved. And I'm like, honestly, my advice to her was the same. If you love him, you're not gonna do that. You're just not. Like, that's the worst thing you could do. That spirit woman that was like, oh, you're. You're. You're. I. I don't really. I believe in, like, energy that I went on a hike with a couple months ago or weeks ago. It's months now. She was talking about how she goes and spends the night at her kid's friend's house when their kid has a sleepover and she hooks up with the parents, you know, of a certain friend of her daughters. And I was like, yeah, I don't do that. Just so you know. I don't do threesomes. Like, I just don't. It's not. It's not appealing to me. It doesn't sound appealing to me. Just not something I'm into. If I'm into that person, I'm into that person. [01:12:28] Speaker A: Now, are you not into that? [01:12:30] Speaker B: Because I don't necessarily agree with that. [01:12:32] Speaker A: And you had a bad experience. [01:12:36] Speaker B: No, I just think if I love my partner and whether she sees me and she loves me back, I'm assuming, and we have that love and she sees me with someone else, there's. It's natural to be, like, jealous over that. Yeah. And vice versa. If I see her with someone else, it's natural for us to be. Be jealous over that. And not to mention when you got a lot of wives. You ever seen Sister Wives? No, Tell me, tell me. There's no. No jealousy there. You know, you're. You're basically. You're basically rewarding. This goes back to healthy parenting. You're basically rewarding or punishing through your love and time. Oh, you're mistreating me. I'm gonna go kick it with Linda. Oh, Linda's being a. I'm gonna go kick it with Dorothy. We could throw in some black names. Oh, you're Dorothy. You're mistreating me? Then I'm gonna go kick it with Shaniqua. Whatever the case may be, like, you're punishing them by taking away your quality time in love. There's nothing forcing you until later, after you go spend time with your other wife or your other girl that you come back and address it. It. [01:13:52] Speaker A: I never considered that you could just ignore the ones being shitty. I might be coming around on this system. Now, hold on. Let me think this through. No. Yeah, I've. I've never been into that. I don't. I don't know, maybe. Maybe part of me, like, knows what a shit show it would be emotionally, and so I don't even, like, go there mentally, but, like. Nah, it just never appealed to me. Not that it's ever been an option. [01:14:32] Speaker B: You. Well, what does it say about you that it was an option? One year for me. I'm not gonna lie. I was dating one sister. The other one really liked me, and they came up with an agreement where one would date me Sunday through Wednesday. The other one Thursday, Friday, Saturday. That was good for a little bit, but didn't work out once, you know, Saturday was over and the other one realized she didn't get the fun me, she got the. The weekday me. So that ended pretty abruptly. Now, but that being said, what does it say about you as a man? Because, again, you have these opportunities to run from your. Your issues. And this thought came about because, what if these women unionize that you're seeing, and all four, all five, all three of them are like, let's all leave at the same time. Like this, dude. Now you're sitting there, your whole world's crashed, and you don't know how to be alone. You don't. That's kind of what my dad's going through. He doesn't know how to be alone. He's not content with being alone. He's got to either go to a bar and be around people or he's got to do something. But he hates being alone. And he's openly admitted that I don't like being alone. What does that say about you if you don't like being alone? What makes you think I like being around you? If you don't like being around you, why would I like being around you? [01:16:04] Speaker A: I get an apartment complex, and they all have their own apartments. No mingling, no talking. [01:16:14] Speaker B: But again, what if they unionize and they're like, we're all out. [01:16:18] Speaker A: I will write into the prenuptial agreement that there's no collective bargaining. Yeah. [01:16:28] Speaker B: Keep them separated. You know what I mean? Like. [01:16:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it. It's. I don't know, man. I love being alone. Is that a strength? [01:16:43] Speaker B: That's where I'm at. I didn't always like being alone. I had to be around people. Now I enjoy it. [01:16:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:49] Speaker B: Now I can watch tv. I could read, I could study, I could paint, I could journal. I could do whatever I want. And I don't have to share My time. I don't have to go make her sleep in the child's room just because I want to spend some alone time on a podcast. [01:17:05] Speaker A: Right. What kind of cuck do you think that your dad, like, found identity in his relationships and that's why he hates being alone so much? [01:17:20] Speaker B: I think he enjoys the attention. [01:17:22] Speaker A: Okay. [01:17:23] Speaker B: And I only say that because, like, he tends to go. You know, we worked on the road once together, and we were drinking every night and smoking weed every night and just watching shows, comedies, and it wasn't something I wanted to do every night, but for him, it was like. It was like the time, you know? I mean, it was like. It was like it would. I can imagine him being like, oh, you remember that time we xyz, you know? Like, it was almost like, oh, those were the good old days, you know? He just. Yeah, I don't know, man. He's just. He's just like that. That guy, you know, like, when he's around people and he's drinking, he thinks he's hilarious and he wants a .5 every two seconds. And you're like, dude, you're annoying, bro. Like, if I have to raise my arm again, I'm gonna smack you instead of your hand. Like, this is just annoying. But that's who he is. And if you're not gonna high five him, he's gonna, like, punch you in your arm and be like, that was funny, right? Or hit you on the back, you know, and like, pat you on the back type thing. It's. It's just. But he thinks it's the best of times. I get it now. It was the best of times. It was the worst times. I get it. I get it now. Yeah, it totally makes sense to me. [01:18:50] Speaker A: Maybe some people don't like being alone because certain thoughts. Maybe. Maybe being alone is like a way of self confrontation, and a lot of people don't like that. [01:19:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, probably so. Yeah, definitely. You got to confront the man that you're sitting with, and he, quite frankly, isn't that cool. I enjoy my alone time. Like, it's re. Energizing. Yeah. [01:19:30] Speaker A: I used to think of you more as an extrovert, but I think you're an introvert. [01:19:37] Speaker B: Every test I take says I'm an introvert, which is weird because I've had to take several tests for work, for. For job positions, and they're like, what do you want to do? And I'm like, oh, I think I'd be great in, like, sales or customer relationships or, like, building relationships to get More business. And they're like, yeah, but your test scores show that you're introverted. And I'm like, no, you don't know me. Then. [01:20:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:04] Speaker B: And they're like, well, we're just reading what you've, what you answered on your test, on your test scores. And a lot of them have, It's a weird, I forget the test. But a lot of them have me on the very right side of this bar that goes down. And I have a couple, I have three out of four on the left, but like, the one on the right is way right. And they're like, you, it's showing you're more introverted. Like, I love talking to people, but not forever. Like, yeah, introduce me to new people every day and I'm good. And keep me going back to the same person for months. I tend to start getting annoyed by certain things they do and don't catch me on a bad day. Like, if you put me around one of those annoying people on a bad day, I'm, I'm definitely gonna, like, you know, I'm, I'm definitely gonna express it. I have fun with it now. You know, there's a guy in every meeting and his converse, his answers are usually about, in, in real life, his answers are usually about six to seven minutes long. Oh, you know, he's not going to call it a door. He's going to call it by its, its, its catalog name, its item number, whatever. It's never just a wall. It's. He goes through all the building material that's in the wall and why the wall is that way. And, and I'm like, so now I just have fun with it, you know? And I'm like, hey, does anybody have any questions before I close out the meeting? And he'll say, you know, I, I, I got one. Of course you do. Of course you do. I'm gonna put a time limit on you because we ain't got all that. I gotta get to another meeting in 10 minutes. You know what I mean? Like, sweet old man, but like on a bad day. And he talks. I, I'm, I'm like, I'm very to the point, you know, I'm like, we got the wall and we got the door. Let's just call it wall door right now. Where are we at? What are we doing? You know what I mean? Like, and there's, there's no, like, like, there's no, you could tell the, the sense I'm in when I say it like that versus other times. I could definitely, if I Got myself in a hole. Played off as. I was kidding. [01:22:19] Speaker A: Yeah, when you were. When you were listing all the caveats for your relationships with people or your. Your introvertedness. I was just saying I am no good before 11:00am. [01:22:41] Speaker B: That'S the thing, dude. I, like, I. I'm definitely a night owl. When I'm by myself, I like to stay up late. I can definitely stay up late. I might be tired in the afternoon, but, like, once nighttime hits, I'm cool with watching movie after movie if we. If we do. Until I'm like dead ass tired and fall asleep during a movie. But I also love getting up early, having that alone time, making breakfast, having a cup of coffee. You know, I enjoy that time too. To myself. I don't know. I often think, what is a female gonna do to my moments? You know, she gonna rob me of my mornings and. And steal my nights. [01:23:19] Speaker A: Rape your moments. That's what she's gonna do. [01:23:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:23:27] Speaker A: He's. Damn whores. So anyways, this has been the manosphere. We should. We should just start doing that. Let's just start inviting stupid sluts on and argue with them about everything. [01:23:43] Speaker B: I do think we should possibly have guests, but I want guess that have some good input and are not looking, I don't know, like, not looking to kind of have a spin off because they think they're so. I want, like, guests. I don't want guys that think like so highly of themselves that they want to be a guest and then say, oh, you know what? I could do this. Yeah, dude, you could totally do it. I. The goal of ours was to bring light to certain things, help men move in and pivot, help them kind of become better, stronger men, understand themselves more, be more comfortable, whatever it may be. But, like, you know, my buddy that watched once, I mean, he was just like, we got in the car, I couldn't, like, all the way to Alberto's, he was just like, oh, yeah, he's talking to his wife. He's like, we should start one. Like, man, we have so many stories. He just wanted to talk. [01:24:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:48] Speaker B: And have people listen. He didn't really have anything behind it where he's like, oh, I kind of want to, like, educate people on life experiences or something like that. He was like, I just want to talk and be heard. You should have me on your show. Once you say, I should have you on my show. First of all, I don't know if our two listeners would really care. Secondly, you know, secondly, who are you that we should have you on our show? You know, like, what, what are you gonna bring to the audience that would make them leave and say, dang, like, I can do that. I can be a better person. I can like, whatever it is. Yeah. I have a question for you. Okay. And I'd like this to maybe be a topic. It's gonna sound Christian, like. But it's, it's, it's, it could be applied everywhere. You constantly do something you don't want to keep doing. You feel bad for it. Whether for the Christian, let's just say Christian male pornography, every time you watch it, you hate jerk enough. You know what I mean? Or for me, it's like, it's not so much pornography. It's. If I'm around a woman and she wants a hookup, I'm like, let's go. I'm doing better at it now. But still, still hard. If I like you and you want to be intimate, I'm totally open to that. And then afterwards I feel shitty because I'm like, I know I should be married now for someone that's not Christian, that's like, well, I don't want to tune into that one. There has to be things that you continually repeat in your life that you're like, I don't want to keep doing that. I want to walk down that avenue of, how do you stop doing those things? [01:26:46] Speaker A: I've got a great example that's a little more general. I can't wake up before 11am oh, you were serious? [01:26:56] Speaker B: You're no good before 11. [01:26:59] Speaker A: Yeah, seriously. It's like, I'm looking for a job. I'm doing my classes online. I'm doing all that stuff. But like, I'm just on such a weird schedule because I don't have anywhere to be that I'd like. I want to get up early and like, help with the baby and like, you know, be productive. And then like the alarm goes off and I'm like, well, I got nowhere to be. Snooze that. Another hour, let's. I'm waking up. [01:27:25] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, you know what? [01:27:27] Speaker A: 9 is a bit early. Why don't we do 10? [01:27:32] Speaker B: Give yourself some grace, because where you're coming from, it is earlier. You know, in Oklahoma, it's later. Two. Two hours. Yeah, but it's yet later. So like. But you waking up at 11. Holy, dude, you're waking up. [01:27:51] Speaker A: So I'm waking up at 1:00 o', clock, Oklahoma time. Being a man rules, dude. Wouldn't trade it for anything. [01:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I would like to discuss, to look at that. I would like, to look at that. I have some opinions and some thoughts, but some people say I'm a little too harsh. [01:28:18] Speaker A: Nah, not with me, because I. I probably already think more harshly than you do. But why? [01:28:26] Speaker B: We have a. [01:28:26] Speaker A: We could break something like that. [01:28:30] Speaker B: Go ahead, finish. I'm sorry. [01:28:32] Speaker A: We could, you know, break something like that down into, you know, here's the first step. You know, you've got one step you can do right now to improve the situation. Make it a little better each day. You know, that was just one example I thought of that wasn't, like, super Christian. [01:28:53] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I just have guys that are like, hey. I keep repeating this, and I'm like, quit doing. Quit. Quit going around it. Quit putting yourself in those situations. And then when I'm talking about those situations with other men in the group, they're like, it's not a contest. And I'm like, I'm not saying it's a damn contest. Like, I, I'm. I'm. I struggle in other areas, but if I really want to stop it, I don't put myself around it. And so I think they think I'm a little. They being stretch marks, thinks I might be a little harsh or, you know, his comment of it. Maybe he doesn't look at it like it's a contest. Like it's not a contest. It's life. It's. It's what's gonna be, you know, so. Yeah, I don't know. Think about that. [01:29:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that'd be a good topic. [01:29:52] Speaker B: All right, man. Well, you're getting really rasterized, and you're cutting out way worse than before. I think. I think we've. We've talked about the red pill movement now, and I'm a little more educated and a little more sensitive to being around guys that are like that. I think I know a couple red pill list. Don't know if they consider themselves red pillist, but definitely. They definitely act like it. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. [01:30:26] Speaker A: I think I'm gonna go ahead and just give a thumbs down to the, to the red pill manosphere. I think there's. There's decent elements, but I think it's mostly pimp, and I don't care for it. [01:30:41] Speaker B: Let me ask you this before we go. I am Morbius. You are Neo. I'm holding the red and blue pill. Which one you take in? [01:30:55] Speaker A: I think I'm taking the red pill on every issue. You know, it's an issue that. It's a analogy that's been used for a lot of things now. I think, I think the first people to use it in this space were like libertarians who are like waking up to the reality of the government and stuff. And then I think that got co opted by like the manosphere and like, you know, a bunch of other movements. But yeah, I think I'm always on the side of truth. Dude, I don't want to live in the simulation. [01:31:26] Speaker B: Okay, do you think you pick that? Because when truth hits in the simulation, you're going to be unprepared. [01:31:39] Speaker A: Possibly, possibly. I just don't like, I don't like the simulation. Doesn't matter. You know, it's not. [01:31:54] Speaker B: I think it's all perspective. I think it's all perspective because I was gonna be a blue pill guy until you said that you always be on the side of truth. And I was like, yeah, he's got a good point. However, being a blue pillar and just more my life, the only thing that really matters to me and those that I care about, I kind of like the ignorance. I feel like I'm a blue pillar now. You know, like some people want to talk about. Did you hear? And I'm like, I don't watch the news. I heard, I've heard nothing. Heard nothing. That Russia had. Yeah. You know, I've heard nothing. That there's tsunamis hitting everywhere. I only heard that tonight because people brought it up. Did you hear? [01:32:32] Speaker A: Dude, I'm so glad that you mentioned that. Do you want to hear the, you want to hear the craziest shit? [01:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I do. [01:32:45] Speaker A: On what was the night before last? Monday night. [01:32:48] Speaker B: I'm good. I don't want to hear nothing. I'm a blue pill guy. [01:32:54] Speaker A: I will say, I will say that I, I totally agree with your sentiments. I think like in the political space where that analogy is used more blue, like it's used both sides for people who are active in like political commentary and like the blue pillars are the ones who are in the simulation and they are arguing for its truth. And they are, you know, they are just as engaged as the red pillars just on the side of non truth. [01:33:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:28] Speaker A: But when it comes to. Would you rather just be a conscientious objector to the whole thing? Absolutely, I'd rather be a blue pillar. I'd rather not know what's going on for sure, but I don't want to be a CNN reporter. [01:33:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:43] Speaker A: Whose job is to basically like keep the simulation going. You know what I mean? Monday night I had a dream that you and I were in a house and I opened a bedroom door and out the window was a beachfront view. And I see this massive tidal wave coming toward the house. And I close the door and it crashes through the window of the house. And I open the door, door. And I just see like water sloshing all over the carpet in this bedroom. And that was the end of the dream, that Tuesday tsunami warning. [01:34:32] Speaker B: Okay, so let me ask you, was that Monday night or Sunday night? Monday morning. [01:34:39] Speaker A: Monday night. Monday night going into Tuesday. And then Tuesday was the day of the earthquake and when the tsunami warning came out. [01:34:47] Speaker B: That is crazy. I also had a dream. [01:34:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:50] Speaker B: And again, you know, my dreaming, I don't necessarily dream. I went to bed. I woke up at. I woke up at. It was like 11. Yeah, it was like 11 at night. I was dead ass tired and I was like, if I don't write this dream down, I'm gonna forget it. So I had to go write it down. I was at a Halloween party. It was the second one in the same dream. So like I. It was almost like. Okay, so I was starting at it. I was at a Halloween party I had. It was me. And. And I could always see her, but I was like with the adults. And there were like. There were like tons of people there, like athletes, celebrities and you know, but there was also like old neighborhood friends. Some of the athletes were like. I remember seeing Travis Kelsey for some reason. And then I remember seeing an athlete that I'm like, oh, you get in trouble with the law a lot. And so it was, it was, it was like a house party. And the party was going to end and then there was like another party at someone else's house. But nobody was dressed up. I just remember being Halloween, but no one was like dressed up. I think maybe. I can't say that. I think maybe a couple people were. Anyhow, I knew where my daughter was at all times. And I overhear like, there's a group of people about to take a picture and my daughter was in the area of them. And like one of the. They were, they were like olden, like guys from the old neighborhood. So they were like essays. And you know, like, they were just. They were Mexican people, but they were dressed like essays, like gang bangers. And I remember one of them putting his arm around my daughter and I overhear him like inviting her to take a picture. And he tells my daughter, oh, you can be my wife. Like, this is to my eight year old. He puts his arm around her. Whether it was for like, hey, like, I'm gonna put my arm around you. Like, you're my wife or what the ever. And I grab her and I'm like, nah, dude. Like that. I make a scene like, you're a pedophile. Like, don't you ever touch my daughter. And I walk away, right away with her. Now, one of, like, the females in that group, she. She, like, goes off on me. She's following me. She's yelling at me throughout the party. I turn around and I don't know what knowledge I have, but I know she doesn't have her kid. Like, she lost her kid to either the husband or the state. And I remember turn around and told her, like, she do the same if she had her kid with her. Like, if she was able to have her kid. And I got in her face. All people see is me getting in her face. And as she walks away, she's crying. And I made a comment. Oh, you, like, it was a comma. I wrote down, oh, wait, no, you wouldn't do the same because you don't have your child with you. And then I end up leaving, going to the other party instead. And everyone seems to have an issue with me, but no one's saying anything. I could just sense this, like, this feeling. And then I find out she went around telling people I hit her. I remember like. Like people, like, kind of like looking at me, talking from a distance. And then at the second party, I talked with a couple celebrities, explaining the situation they understand. And then one of the guys and some of the chicks show up to the second party, and they're waiting on the other half of the party to join them, the other half of the group. And one of the guys, I put. So I'm walking with someone and see the first car load. One of the guys says he wants to talk to me. So the one of the guys, not the guy I called a pedophile, gets out and he's like, hey, let me talk to you for a minute. And he explains. He's like, hey, we were going to wait a while, like a couple months to catch you. And. And when we did, we were just gonna beat the shit out of you. With 40s. Like with. With. And he has a 40 in his hand. He's like, with 40s. And he shows me one. His hand. And I explained to him what happened. You know, I explained to him, hey, this is the situation. I thanked him, but I also had this strong sense that they were going to do it that night. And he was warning me to leave. And then I also had the sense that he was telling me what he was about. To do to me when I turn around on him, like, as I'm like, hey, thanks, gonna turn around and he's gonna be the first one to crack the bottle and, like, just start whipping my ass. Like, hit me with the 40 and just go to town. I knew I had. I had to get. And I knew I had to leave. However, I didn't know how to do that safely because I didn't want to turn my back to this guy. And then I wake up. Dude, dude, dude. I. I like, woke up. I go sit down on the toilet, go and pee. I'm writing this down as, like, I'm trying. I'm half awake. So, like, my eyes aren't even fully open. I don't want my glasses so I can't really see. And I'm like writing this down and I'm like, what, what was like. What was like, oh, I'm getting a lot of back feet. A lot of back feet. [01:40:46] Speaker A: Sorry, my headphones turned off for some reason. [01:40:49] Speaker B: No worries. I. I was just. Remember sitting there thinking, still getting it. What was. What was the message of this dream? Usually when I have a dream, I know what it was, what it was trying to tell me, what it was trying to tell me. Couldn't figure this one out. Couldn't figure this one out. [01:41:08] Speaker A: Well, the. The two parts where everyone's looking at you and talking about you and then the end where you're like, in imminent danger and don't know how to get out of it. Like, those are two feelings that you just, like, know so well. And that, like, no matter what the dream was, it just conveys that so well, you know? And it's. It's just such a feeling. It's not an event as much as just a feeling that's so uncomfortable. And you just have to sit in it for eight hours while you're having this dream. It's just so real, you know? [01:41:47] Speaker B: Yeah, the weird thing, I went to bed, like, at 8:30, 9 o', clock, and I woke up like, dude, I like, I was like, I have to wake up. And wasn't so much I had to wake up, but it was almost like at that time I realized this is a dream. And I woke up and I looked at the clock and it was like 11 o'. Clock. And I was like, dude, it's not even like the last dream I'm having tonight, you know? Like, it was like, that's my first dream, you know, it was. It was, it was shitty. All right, man. Well, that's been pseudonyms. We'll talk during the week about what we want to talk about. I. I'm assuming right now it's going to be how to stop struggling with shit. And this has been the We Are Huge Naggers episode. [01:42:38] Speaker A: I've been Neo. [01:42:40] Speaker B: No, I'm Neo, you're Morbius. You were just in the sense of me asking you what pill you wanted. [01:42:48] Speaker A: Right. I am. I've been Morbius. This has been Pseudonyms. Thanks, everyone. [01:42:53] Speaker B: Oh, you have been Neo. I've been Morbius. [01:42:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't want to shame you. All right, goodbye, everyone. [01:43:06] Speaker B: Love you.