049: You Should Be Locked Up

Episode 49 June 15, 2026 02:04:22
049: You Should Be Locked Up
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049: You Should Be Locked Up

Jun 15 2026 | 02:04:22

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Kim and Kourtney talk about people they look up to, and how they can be more like them

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, man. How's it going? [00:00:03] Speaker B: It's going good. How you doing, man? [00:00:07] Speaker A: Good, good. [00:00:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:11] Speaker A: So you're watching Cops as always. I interrupted Cops. [00:00:18] Speaker B: No, I haven't watched them in a while, man. I put them on tonight while I was building the cab. [00:00:25] Speaker A: Cabinet for your. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:28] Speaker A: For your place. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just a little bathroom, little standing cabinet. I got some shower steamers and I want them right next to the shower, you know, so. [00:00:39] Speaker A: Nice. [00:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Have you ever used those? [00:00:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:00:44] Speaker A: Are they good? They actually do what they're supposed to do. [00:00:47] Speaker B: The ones I just got suck, like, they were gone. It was gone within like two minutes. I was like, that's shitty. But. [00:00:56] Speaker A: So you put it on the ground so it gets wet? [00:01:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Just kind of. Okay, kind of. Just. What is it? What is that? Aerates. Aromatic. You know, I mean, it just kind of. [00:01:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:09] Speaker B: Comes up. [00:01:09] Speaker A: Is it. Is it like essential oils or is it like chemicals? [00:01:19] Speaker B: They're essential oils. These ones are okay. [00:01:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Those probably rule then. [00:01:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:26] Speaker A: That's probably why they don't last long because they're like, good, well made. Like things with. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Well, there were like, other ones. They suck last the whole shower. Mm. [00:01:39] Speaker A: If you're a Marine. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Yeah. This one didn't do much, so. How you doing, man? [00:01:49] Speaker C: Good. [00:01:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Any luck on work? The work front? [00:01:55] Speaker A: Not yet, no. [00:01:57] Speaker B: No. [00:01:58] Speaker A: I'm just doing the stay at home dad thing. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Nice. [00:02:05] Speaker A: God, I wish I had somewhere to go. [00:02:08] Speaker B: I get it. [00:02:09] Speaker A: I wish I had somewhere to go every day and just be a contributing member of society. [00:02:15] Speaker B: I get it, man. Cuz that's kind of like. We haven't had a project in like five, six weeks. And although I'm doing stuff and, you know, maybe every other. [00:02:25] Speaker A: Every. [00:02:26] Speaker B: Every other two days or every other day I'll go somewhere. It kind of sucks not having anywhere to go sometimes. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah. But every week we're here. [00:02:43] Speaker B: That's right. [00:02:43] Speaker A: Doing what we do best. More important than any job, higher earnings. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Hey, I want to. I want to jump back on something because after I listen to that, the one on therapy, realize like, sometimes I went on little tangents and went off and didn't make the point. When I was talking about therapy and you were like, well, not everybody's open, you know, so it's kind of like the open person. And, you know, and I was saying, well, therapy is kind of like, here's the rules to it. This is what you do. You just kind of regurgitate that on each person. I was simply saying, like, yeah, you don't have to be open. The therapist should be the creative one to open you up. [00:03:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:37] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. I wasn't sure if I was clear. [00:03:39] Speaker A: That's what I. I think we got to that in a roundabout way, because I was talking about how, like, I was told I don't share enough, and you kind of backed me up saying, like, yeah, you got to figure out, like, how to get you to share. [00:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah, the therapist should, for sure. Yeah. [00:04:06] Speaker A: I mean, that's got to be a huge portion of their job to figure out how to talk to people and get information from people, you know, like. [00:04:17] Speaker C: But then again, it comes back around [00:04:18] Speaker A: to, like, the people who are more open thrive more in therapy. I don't mean to say exclusively, but, like, they definitely do better because they're already open and sharing everything for sure. [00:04:35] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe they have a little head start, you know, they're already open where the other one has to get open. [00:04:43] Speaker A: But. [00:04:43] Speaker B: All right, that's. That's enough on that. Yeah. So it's been a good week. [00:04:48] Speaker A: I'm very excited for tonight's topic. Oh, sorry, you're gonna talk about your week? [00:04:54] Speaker C: No, that made me sound like such an. You're like, well, let me tell you about my week. Well, I'm very excited for the topic tonight. [00:05:02] Speaker B: No, I was. [00:05:03] Speaker C: I don't mean to cut you off right there, but I really want to get to the next thing I was [00:05:09] Speaker B: just gonna ask you. Like, I was just gonna say. So, like, you know, your week has been pretty. Just. Just chilling at home, huh? [00:05:18] Speaker A: Yeah. It's one of those things where when you do the same thing every single day, you. You just don't know what day it is, and the whole week is a blur. And also with kids, I think, at least in, like, my current situation, you're always just waiting for a certain time. It's like, okay, we're up. Now I'm waiting for 12 so we can have lunch. And now I'm waiting for one so we can go to the play place. And now I'm waiting for three when your mom gets home. And now we're waiting for five for dinner, and then six is bath seven's bed. And it's just like, when you're waiting for a certain time all day long, it just flies by. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:06] Speaker A: You know, it's brutal. I understand now a lot about the problems my wife and I had when she was stay at home and I was working all day because I would get home and if I had, like, one, two chores to do, you know, I want to, like, Scoop the cat boxes and do the dishes. She'd get furious with me. And it's like, bro, I've been at work all day. I just want to get these chores done and then we can chill and do whatever. But, like, now that I'm in this position, this comes home every day and takes a nap or like, goes out [00:06:45] Speaker C: shopping or like, the things that have to happen. [00:06:48] Speaker A: Sure. [00:06:49] Speaker C: And I'm just like, dude, I've been [00:06:51] Speaker A: with the kid all day. [00:06:52] Speaker C: Take this kid away from me right now. [00:06:56] Speaker A: And it's not that bad. I'm joking mostly. But like, I get it now. Like, the resentment when someone comes home and doesn't relieve you. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dan, you've been stuck with a kid all day and you're gonna learn really quick that, well, you have. You have other family that's home during the day, right? Like your mom? [00:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, so you have. You have adult. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Keeps her entertained. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, most of our conversation revolves around the baby, but. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's better than having just a conversation with kids all day. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Sure. [00:07:35] Speaker B: So. [00:07:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:38] Speaker B: Oh, so I'm excited about tonight, dude, I'm drinking coffee. [00:07:45] Speaker A: Hey, I'm. I'm gonna need you to pick up the energy. [00:07:49] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I was like. It hit me and I was like, dude, we gotta start this sooner than later. [00:07:57] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:08:00] Speaker B: I'm excited about tonight's topic, which is emulation. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's. It's admiration. It's emulation. It's. You know what I didn't think about was writing down some people that you don't want to emulate. So what we're talking about tonight, we're doing a stoic practice, which is observing people that you look up to, identifying what is good about them, and then how to work that into your life to make you a better person. And I'm just realizing now we should have thought about some of the. The opposites of that because I think that's just as enlightening to see someone you really don't want to be like, you know? [00:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:08:59] Speaker A: perfect example. This is wild. You're gonna hate this so much. I don't think you know this person. You may have met this person once or twice, but this was like a post. Reverence friend. M and I. I'll bleep his name. And I were out to coffee with this guy once, and I love asking people this question. I love asking people, what would you do if you could do anything? Like, mostly career wise, like, if you could get up every day and do this to make Money. What would that thing be? [00:09:39] Speaker C: And this dude, this dude tells. [00:09:42] Speaker A: I honestly, I would just love it if my wife made more money and I could just retire and stay home. Well, they just sold their house in California. They're days away from moving out to Florida. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Hold up, hold up, hold up. [00:10:01] Speaker A: They may. [00:10:02] Speaker B: He kind of got his wish, right? [00:10:06] Speaker A: He got his exact wish, and I'm gonna tell you so because they made so much money selling the house here and buying a house in Florida, she's gonna keep her job and work remotely. So she's gonna make a California wage in Florida and he's gonna take care of their 6, 7 year old daughter. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Isn't he paralyzed? [00:10:29] Speaker A: So he. No, no, not just with me. When this guy told me that. Oh, and got it [00:10:41] Speaker B: was. [00:10:42] Speaker A: I mean, disgusted, maybe like ill at [00:10:48] Speaker C: what this guy said to us that day. Like, he was just. [00:10:51] Speaker A: He. We talked about it for years, let's put it that way. Like, it really. It really got to him that this guy said this. But yeah, that's what's gonna happen now because she's gonna make so much money for Florida that he doesn't really have to work. [00:11:06] Speaker C: So he's just gonna take care of the kid, not work. And so I text him like, dude, it finally happened. This guy got his wish. [00:11:16] Speaker A: Is he blind, all that? [00:11:19] Speaker C: No, no. [00:11:21] Speaker A: He is from Georgia though. [00:11:22] Speaker B: So, I mean, well, I only asked that because, you know, I was in a rap group and the. [00:11:31] Speaker C: I remember that you guys, you guys performed at our youth group. [00:11:36] Speaker B: And he had said, my partner had said, like, man, I just want to make. I want to make a million, A couple million and just be a stay at home dad. And I honestly was like, you lazy piece of. [00:11:54] Speaker A: That's. It's like, it's framing. It's like, I would love to make a couple million and create a lifestyle for myself where I could mostly be at home. Sure. But that's all like part of making the money. You know what I mean? [00:12:14] Speaker B: It's. [00:12:14] Speaker A: It's like the Dave Ramsey thing of like, live like no one today so you can live like no one tomorrow. That, that thing, you know, like, I. I would love to work my ass off to the point where I can mostly stay home and have millions of dollars. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I get it. I don't think that's what that ninja [00:12:31] Speaker A: was talking about exactly. That's what I'm saying is like, he's kind of talking about like an inheritance or a lottery or something, and then [00:12:38] Speaker C: he just stays home all day and it's like, no, I I actually think [00:12:43] Speaker A: that would bum me out to have nothing to work for anymore. [00:12:48] Speaker B: I mean, if I. If I won or if I earned and became a millionaire, I would want to travel all the time. And, in fact, that's probably what I would do. You know, I'd be home, hang out for a little bit, get a little itch, and be like, let's take a trip to Rome, you know? [00:13:08] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that. I mean, there's leisurely things like that, sure. But, like, if I had a hundred million dollars, I'm gonna buy a bunch of businesses, or, like, buy, like, 25% of a business and just be, like, a silent partner and just start raking in checks. [00:13:26] Speaker C: Like. Like, I only see that pile of [00:13:29] Speaker A: money as, like, how could I use that to make more money? [00:13:31] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [00:13:32] Speaker A: Like, I wouldn't be sedentary with it, you know, it wouldn't be there. [00:13:38] Speaker B: I'd kind of be like, man, them kids. I am living my life, bro. Y' all can make your own hundred million. [00:13:50] Speaker C: Your Honor, I'm submitting this podcast into Evidence. I believe he said, fuck them kids. [00:14:01] Speaker B: All right, so I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you options tonight. You can go for a celebrity that is known for copying others, or you can go for. Someone in literature. Okay. [00:14:32] Speaker A: And those are my only two options? [00:14:34] Speaker B: Yep. Your only two options. [00:14:36] Speaker A: Okay, so I think you were a lot more thorough than I was, because I wrote down seven people. [00:14:46] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:14:47] Speaker A: And only pick one. [00:14:48] Speaker B: Celebrity or literature guy. [00:14:51] Speaker A: I got to go with celebrity. [00:14:53] Speaker B: All right, Kim Kardashian. All right. [00:14:58] Speaker C: Oh, this is for our names. [00:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't want to say nothing. [00:15:02] Speaker C: I thought. I thought this was your list of people. [00:15:06] Speaker B: No, man, I ain't got a lot of list of people, man, but what you got, Kim? [00:15:11] Speaker A: Well, I'm going to give you a courtesy, and I'm going to call you something that could also be a man's name. So you're Courtney. [00:15:23] Speaker C: Kim and Courtney. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Yep. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Did I ever tell you one of the scariest people I ever drove when I was driving Lyft was a black man named Courtney. [00:15:35] Speaker B: You could have stopped at black man. [00:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not. It's not really relevant to the story, but somehow it is. [00:15:44] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Like the fact that his name was Courtney. [00:15:48] Speaker B: All right, Kim. So tonight we're talking about emulating others. And, you know, we can. We can talk about who we don't want to emulate, because I probably have more of those in my life than I have people. I Want to emulate? [00:16:05] Speaker A: Sure. So, yeah, let's save that for the end. [00:16:10] Speaker B: All right, well, why don't you start off with your list of seven? Because I only got maybe two people. [00:16:16] Speaker A: Okay, that's actually fine because I just wrote down a couple of attributes for each person, so mine can probably go pretty quick. I'll give you the same option you gave me before you get to pick a celebrity or someone I know personally. There's only two I know personally. [00:16:39] Speaker B: I'm going with someone I know. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Famous people. All right, let's do it. You're going to hate this, Pastor Steve. [00:16:47] Speaker B: I don't think that's bad. [00:16:48] Speaker A: You remember? Okay, good. I. [00:16:51] Speaker C: You've never said anything nice about him, so I just. [00:16:54] Speaker B: I've never said anything bad about him. Well, I'm like. The only thing I've ever probably said bad about him was that he's boring. No, I don't have. I said that. [00:17:04] Speaker A: You. You did say that. You did say that. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I don't really have anything bad. Bad about him. Like character wise, like he's always been. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Sure. No, no. [00:17:12] Speaker B: Kind hearted guy. [00:17:14] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he's great. Yeah, that's. That's one of the things I wrote down that he's super kind. You know, it's. It's rare to sit down and talk with someone and not only are they listening to you, but they like, they care. [00:17:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:33] Speaker A: You know, and I, I see that just like the way he talks to the cashier at the coffee shop. You know, obviously he's a super smart guy. He. He has degrees in like physics and quantum mechanics and stuff like that. That was kind of his background before he was a Christian and became a pastor. So, you know, I've always looked up to him, like on an intellectual level because even though we don't like theologically agree about everything, like, he's really. Well, he's thought through what. What he believes really well in a way that most people haven't. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:17] Speaker A: And you know, it's just. Dude, if you ever went into his office, it was like a claustrophobic amount of books lining the walls and he had read every single one, some of them twice. You know, it kind of sounds like I'm eulogizing him. [00:18:34] Speaker C: He's very much alive and he's fine. [00:18:36] Speaker B: I was wondering if he was. [00:18:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I saw him this year. We still get a coffee from time to time. [00:18:42] Speaker B: You look like shit or what now. [00:18:45] Speaker A: Dude, he looks same as he did 10 years ago. Like, he's. He's my dad's age. He's, like, a couple months older than my dad, so he's 74, and he looks like he did when he was 65. You know, he works outside. He's got, like, a physical job. [00:19:04] Speaker B: And what's he do? [00:19:05] Speaker A: Home Depot active? Yeah, yeah, he still works at Home Depot, but, you know, I think just staying so active, both mentally and physically, just kind of stalls you out. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Speaking of age, that chick that I sent you the Instagram on who did, like, her research on all these churches that support Israel, and a lot of the churches we went to were on there. [00:19:28] Speaker A: I only saw the one. What other one? [00:19:31] Speaker B: Rsm. Almost every Southern California cavalry was on there. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Yeah, well, sure. Any Calvary would be on that list, for sure. [00:19:41] Speaker B: Shoot. There was, like, two others that I was like, oh, crap, dude. And then just. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Was Reverence on there? [00:19:46] Speaker B: I don't remember. I want to say they were on there. [00:19:50] Speaker A: I looked for them because, like, it was. It was sort of alphabetical. [00:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like, sort of. Then all of a sudden, it just went. And you're like, oh, wait, okay. [00:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I paused on each page, and I skimmed it. We've only gone to three churches together, so. And I knew. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Well, there's a couple churches out here, too, that I'd gone to that were on there. Oh, I am. I don't know, dude. This whole 501C3 thing with churches. I don't know. You know, I think I'm just gonna go back to the old school house church. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Like, Covid definitely made me think that. Rethink that, rather. [00:20:27] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. For sure. [00:20:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I'm like, I'm all for a tax break. Like, do the grift, whatever you got to do to not pay taxes. Sure. The government. But that is really a leash that they put on you in a lot of ways. And, yeah, it's. It's not good. I think there's even more to that that we're not aware of because it's just the way it is, so no one talks about it. Yeah, but. [00:20:55] Speaker C: Oh, there. [00:20:56] Speaker A: Oh, that reminds me. There was a dude on Tucker Carlson, I got to find this episode and send it to you. But he talks all about that. He just talks about, like, the way that organizations called churches run, and he just really, like. I don't. I don't think, like, churches we've been in have ever, like, operated exactly this way, but it's kind of a light version of that. Yeah, I think any 501C3 is probably kind of operating this way. And it was. It was pretty illuminating. But. [00:21:27] Speaker B: All right, so Steve, Pastor Steve. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Yeah. And then also, you know, he's super trustworthy. Like, I, I've asked his wife before. I'd. I'd be like, oh, you know, I'm sure Steve told you, you know, this thing that I'm going through and she's just like, no, you didn't tell me. [00:21:46] Speaker C: It's just like, oh. [00:21:47] Speaker A: So when I ask you to keep a secret, like, you're not even telling your wife, like, that's cool. [00:21:51] Speaker C: You know that. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I try to emulate that as best as possible. You know, there was a situation with a church I used to go to out here and it all, you know, kind of fell apart and some people told me some things and some other people were asking me like, oh, did you hear about this? And I'd just be like, yeah, I don't know much about it, you know, I just didn't want to talk about it, you know, and, and I just realized that like at the end of that tunnel of like gossiping and sharing information and just rehashing that goes down with people, there's really nothing there, dude. There's nothing at the end of that tunnel. It's just you, you manage to piss people off a little bit more than they were before because they learned something new they didn't know. You know, that's really all it is. So, you know, and then obviously, like, he's a super spirit filled guy. He's just like, I don't know, just being around him, I've always felt like, God, this guy just like knows God personally in a way that I don't. You know, do you ever just be around someone and you have that feeling? It's probably more like a self doubt thing, like on yourself more than anything. But like, and then this, along with most of the people on this list, he's just a super chill guy. And the older I've gotten, the more I've really grown to appreciate that in people. Because I'm so, like, wiry and like anxious. Presenting. [00:23:32] Speaker B: All right, so this is about emulating. How do you emulate him? [00:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker B: Is it intentional? Like, do you have an intentional thought when you're in situations? Because the people I'm emulating, there's an intentional thought when I'm doing what I'm emulating. [00:23:54] Speaker A: Yes. The only one I can say I've already done is definitely like the posture toward gossip. Kind of like how I already said when people are asking me for information or they want to talk about a situation or anything. I do think of Steve, and I think, like, yeah, what would he do in this situation? And it's like, yeah, he wouldn't engage with this for sure. He would be above this, you know, So I. I've had that exact thought about him. And then, you know, I've. It would be unbalanced to say, like, I always try to be really good to. To service industry people, because I've picked that up from a lot of people, yourself included. So I. [00:24:39] Speaker B: It. [00:24:39] Speaker A: That's not strictly him, but, you know, that is one dude that I've noticed is always, like, super cool to waiters and cashiers and people like that. So the rest would just be going forward. I would like to emulate him in his studiousness and his kindness toward people and his walk with. With God, for sure. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Right on. Right on. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:06] Speaker B: Okay, give me a celebrity. [00:25:11] Speaker A: So you have two, I have [00:25:15] Speaker B: maybe three. There's not many people I draw on where I'm like, oh, there are people I pick things up from, but it's not like. It's more of, you know, they'll. They'll. Dude, I was thinking of one tonight too. Somebody. I forget what it is anyhow. But, like, if somebody says, oh, like, I really like it when a man does xyz, I will look at that and kind of say, okay, and then I'll incorporate it. Whether it's like, okay, you know, like, oh, I love when a man smells good. Okay, I'm gonna incorporate smelling good. I already have, but. But I'm not trying to emulate. I'm just trying to say, okay, like, I'm meeting a need that I see is possibly out there. So. All right, so. But I'll get into mine. So go into your. Your first celebrity. [00:26:21] Speaker C: Okay, [00:26:24] Speaker A: let's see. You know what? Just because this will probably be a quick one, and it's kind of piggybacking on the last one, I'm gonna say Rick Rubin. Legendary, legendary record producer Rick Rubin. Because you're so into creativity, I'm gonna suggest you go look him up on YouTube and watch some of his interviews. You might love or hate this guy, but he wrote a book on creativity that I'm reading right now for the second time. He. He's just a producer. Like, he doesn't mix. He doesn't play on records or anything, but. So I often wonder, like, is this a scam? Like, this dude gets paid millions of dollars to just go into a studio and be like, I try this, try that, and then I look at his discography. The greatest albums Some bands have ever [00:27:25] Speaker C: produced were this guy, like, Blood Sugar, [00:27:28] Speaker A: Sex Magic by Red Hot Chili Peppers, Slayer, Johnny Cash, you know, like, all the. The biggest records of the last 30 years, 40 years, have been this dude. So, like, he definitely has a gift for just, like, going in and bringing out the best in people creatively. But, yeah, I just wrote down, like, how chill he is and how he just gets how creativity works and knows how to hack it to a point where you can use it to your advantage. And he's. He's also just very calm. And I really. I really am liking that in people. And, like, I've. I've made a choice now. I am not going to grow into the, like, old crotchety man. I am going to get more chill, more hippie as I get older. [00:28:25] Speaker C: Like, that's what I'm gonna do. [00:28:26] Speaker A: Because it's just a good look, you know? It is a good look story. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Let's be. Let's. What are you putting into practice to be that man, though? Let's. Let's break this down because it's not gonna happen overnight. Yeah, there's not gonna be. You're not just gonna wake up one day and be like, yeah, okay, now I'm chill. It's not gonna happen. [00:28:47] Speaker A: Just today, I was watching an interview of him on my phone, and so I think that he inspired this. But my wife brought my daughter a smoothie from her work, and it had a big open top on it. And I said, that's a fucking nightmare. Why would you do that? But okay, whatever. You did what you did. And so, of course, almost immediately, this smoothie spills on the floor. Not just on the floor, into the holes of my Croc. [00:29:24] Speaker B: Well, hold on, hold on. [00:29:26] Speaker C: I've got. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's back up. You wear fucking Crocs in the house? [00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:33] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:29:34] Speaker A: Not outside the house. [00:29:36] Speaker B: Oh, I'm so glad. But still you wear Crocs. [00:29:40] Speaker C: I'm so glad. I'm so glad for that. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Wow. [00:29:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:47] Speaker B: You know? [00:29:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:50] Speaker B: You should try and emulate a man. [00:29:57] Speaker C: The only reason I had to tell [00:29:58] Speaker A: you that they were Crocs is because they had the holes. [00:30:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:30:02] Speaker A: So, like, this thing went all in the holes, and I just. And immediately my daughter reacted like. And she said, I broke it. I broke it. And I just went, it's okay, honey. It's not broken. Like, we're just gonna clean it up. There's a little bit left in the cup. You can still have it, you know, And I'm just like, God, I don't know if I would have reacted that way if I wasn't watching this like sage guru guy talking. [00:30:32] Speaker B: You would have been punching boxes. [00:30:35] Speaker A: Maybe. [00:30:36] Speaker C: You never know. You're never gonna let that [00:30:42] Speaker A: boxes. [00:30:43] Speaker C: It was almost a year ago, [00:30:48] Speaker A: But yeah. So anyways, I just, I appreciate that about people. I really wish I was that kind of guy. I very much am in my head. Like I'm not overly bothered by things. I, I forgive. I let things go. I'm very like calm and then on the outside I'm like frickin shaking my leg and like tapping my hands on [00:31:09] Speaker C: the table and like I'm all bug eyed. [00:31:11] Speaker A: Like I just, I present like a very anxious person, but I'm not on the inside. [00:31:17] Speaker B: You should. [00:31:17] Speaker A: I think it's just ADHD free some [00:31:20] Speaker B: limes, two of them. And then every day while you're sitting on the couch watching a show, just take them out and hold them for like 30 minutes. [00:31:32] Speaker A: What does that do? [00:31:33] Speaker B: It regulates your heart rate. So like really? Yeah. So anything cold. So if you get upset and there's like a. Never a bowl of ice around, but you have a bowl and some ice, just dip your face in it, put your hands in it, but it calms down your breathing. You ever know like notice like when you get into freezing ass water, you like initially might start breathing real fast, but it's more, it's more, it's more doable or it's more. What's the word I'm looking for? [00:32:10] Speaker A: You accurate? Acclimate. [00:32:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. But no, it's more like you can put up with it more when you start slowing down your breathing, you know, so. And it's, it's similar to the same thing. So like in, in, in conflict something. Conflict. This. I forget what it's called, but conflict behavior, whatever. Therapy. [00:32:37] Speaker A: Conflict resolution. [00:32:38] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, conflict resolution. They tell like there's a whole section on like putting your hands in on something cold or whatever. And the therapist was like, I actually free freeze limes and every day like I'll just grab them out while I'm sitting on the couch and just hold them for like 30 minutes until they get like kind of warm and then put them back in. But it just helps you like regulate your, it regulates like your pulse and your breathing. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. [00:33:07] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. [00:33:08] Speaker A: I take a cold shower from time to time. [00:33:10] Speaker B: I take one every day. [00:33:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:13] Speaker C: Oh, okay. Watch out guys. We're dealing with a badass. [00:33:18] Speaker B: So what I do is I put it on as hot as it'll go. And then I get annoyed with it because, like, heat is like claustrophobia for me. Like, it feels good, but then after a while I'm like, dude, like, I am burning up. Like, oh, I need to get out of here. And so I do that so that when I turn on the cold water, it's more received. Yeah, but I do it for vanity, you know, Tighten up the skin, close the pores, you know. [00:33:48] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I do. I do find that when you get out of a cold shower, you're just very like, yeah, so. Good tip. All right, I want to hear one of yours. [00:34:02] Speaker B: My first one was the one that came to mind when you brought up this subject is Jesus. No, [00:34:16] Speaker C: I realized that he didn't come right to your mind, but I've chosen. [00:34:21] Speaker B: I know you said, what would Steve do? However, [00:34:27] Speaker C: I assumed that that was a [00:34:29] Speaker A: given and off the table, I take [00:34:33] Speaker B: the route of what would Jesus do? No, the first one I would. I emulate probably is. His street name is Chucky, so I'll just go with that. But he was a. He was probably like 6, 2, 6 1, maybe even 6 foot. But just the way he walked, like, he just. He. He like put his. I don't know, man. But whenever I'm cautious about, like, entering a room or walking down the street or someone seeing me, like. Like I hear someone come around the corner or whatever. For the most part, whenever I'm out in public and I'm not like, I have two walks. I have the walk that he does, and then I have the I'm getting shit done today walk. And that's the walk where it's like, people just know, get the fuck out of my way. I got somewhere to go. It's just a higher pace walk. But, like, my casual walk. I always think of how he would fucking just. Just walk in. Just, you know, just really comfortable, confident. And so that's. That's why emulate. As far as. That's the first one that came to mind. All right. The, like, it. The other ones are more like generational. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:08] Speaker B: You know, they're more like, I am you. I try and emulate a gentleman as much as possible. And it was great. Oh, it was great, dude. So I have a friend at work who is. Is on a budget and he's getting married. And he's like, you know, we're gonna get wedding pictures. She wants to get wedding pictures done if you guys don't need photographers. And I'm like, dude, we could take your. I'll take your pictures. I'm Like, I got a camera. I got. I got a friend that'll help. I'll take your pictures. And he's like, really? I was like, yeah. So we went. We're taking the pictures, doing our thing, and his girl was, like, sweating. And the bride, or soon to be bride, and she's like. She looks at him and she's like, do you have a. Do you have a. Like, a handkerchief or something? Like, you know, my. I'm sweating. I want to, like. I was like, hold on. He was like, no, I don't. I was like, oh, I got one right here in my back pocket. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:11] Speaker B: I pull out the handkerchief, and it's funny because I just started carrying the handkerchief this. That week. [00:37:16] Speaker A: And you're like, please don't give it back. [00:37:18] Speaker B: Well, I let him keep it for the whole, like, shoot. And then at the end, I was like, hey, I need it back, so I go wash it. But, yeah, so I started carrying a handkerchief. But that's more of like a generational thing. Like, men used to carry handkerchiefs for situations like that. And so for me, I was like, I want to start doing that, you know? [00:37:38] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah, I used to do that. I got to bring that back. [00:37:43] Speaker B: It's nice, Dude. It's very rarely ever asked, but when it is, man, you're. You're. You're the savior. [00:37:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Have you heard Nick Offerman's song about always carry a handkerchief? [00:38:02] Speaker B: I don't know who Nick Offerman is. Is that the dude from Parks and Rec? [00:38:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:38:07] Speaker B: He. [00:38:08] Speaker A: He said his dad always told him that, so. To always carry a handkerchief. So he wrote a song about, like, all the reasons you could use it. [00:38:17] Speaker C: And I can't remember the full lyric, but he's like, and if you're forced to perform fellatio, it's a pillow for [00:38:24] Speaker A: your knees, [00:38:28] Speaker B: you know, it was funny because the very next day, mind you, I have more handkerchiefs now. But at the time, I had one. Didn't need more than one. I have a bunch of pocket squares, but they're all silk. A little different, you know. These are cotton. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:43] Speaker B: And so Miami, the very next day, need to, like, blow her nose or wipe her nose. And she was like, oh, do you have a handkerchief? I was like, no, I only. I only have one, and it's dirty right now. I was like, dang it. So I had it. I was like, dude, I gotta order more now. So. Hold on. [00:39:09] Speaker A: I wanted to send it to you now so I don't forget. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Send what? [00:39:14] Speaker A: The song. [00:39:15] Speaker B: Oh, Dude, I'm not gonna listen to it, but I appreciate that. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Ah, you [00:39:21] Speaker B: people send me songs. Like, Stretch Markers send me songs all the time. And sometimes it'll take like, two weeks before I'm like, oh, you sent me a song. I gotta listen to it. And I'll go like, I don't know, first. First couple bars in. And then I'm like, yeah, this ain't my song for sure. [00:39:38] Speaker A: All right, never mind then. [00:39:42] Speaker B: Who's your. Who's your third. Your second celebrity? Your third person? [00:39:47] Speaker A: Well, I'm gonna cut some of these out, at least one. But let's see. Go with Nick Cave. Nick Cave is an interesting dude. [00:40:00] Speaker B: Now, let me ask you real quick. Are you going with celebrities that you've, like, read their books? And then you're like, oh, you know what? I kind of like that. And that's who. Like, you know, for instance, I read Carol Dweck, or let's say I read Cal Newport's Deep Work. And I'm like, oh, like, that's a good. That's. That's some good thought right there. Like, deep Work. Like, okay, don't be distracted. Don't do two things at once. Okay? And. And I really like the book, and I try and do that at times. Are you considering that emulating someone. [00:40:41] Speaker A: No, I'm. I'm more drawn to personalities. So I'll get obsessed with, like, a certain person, like Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones, and just watch a million interviews because he's hilarious and just the coolest guy who's ever existed, you know? And you'll watch him, like, noodle on the guitar, and you're just like, damn, man. How the does he do that? You know? So I'm. I'm drawn to more, like, odd personalities. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:41:12] Speaker A: And then I find myself kind of picking out gems of. [00:41:17] Speaker B: I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a bunch of authors that you were like, well, I really liked his book. [00:41:21] Speaker A: And so I will say now. Now that I'm looking at it, I have read every single one of these people's books. All. All five of my famous people. I've read their books, but that's only because I was already interested in them as. As people. [00:41:38] Speaker B: I assume that, Kim. I assumed that. [00:41:42] Speaker A: All right, so I'll go with Nick Cave. Interesting dude. He was like a punk rock guy in the 70s and 80s. And then he went solo. And over the years, has really gone from, like, that spit in your face kind of, like, aggressive dude into, like, just this sweet old man who. He suffered a really bad tragedy in 2015 when his 15 year old son died. And since then he's become like this almost like expert on grief. Like people write in to him all the time asking him questions about grief, and he has a whole message board now where he responds to people's questions and he's, he's just really [00:42:37] Speaker C: kind of [00:42:37] Speaker A: carved out a whole segment of people that like, are asking his advice and like that. That was never really him before he like, got sober. And he's kind of a Christian now. I'm. I'm not really sure. He kind of contradicts himself here and there, but he goes to an Anglican church in England where he lives and he talks about Jesus all the time. He loves Jesus. But then he'll say something like some. Somebody wrote in and asked him like, do you think the Bible is myth or history? And, and he said, obviously it's both. And it's like, I don't know what you mean by that, but, you know, he's, he's very open about how like he considers himself a Christian and he's humbled himself to accepting, you know, a higher power and, and stuff. And, and it's just like in, in his industry, that's not something openly talked about by a lot of people. You know, there's also not a lot of people calling themselves conservative politically, you know, and I just appreciate that he doesn't give a. And that he would just be honest about himself and say those things, even though it doesn't score him any points with, with people. Yeah. And so that's kind of it. You know, once again, it's a really chill old guy who's just become like, sage. Like how old is he? And yep, he's probably close to 70. [00:44:16] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:18] Speaker A: He's. Yeah. But you know, I also just appreciate that like this terrible thing happened to him and he's used it for good, you know, like he didn't relapse and become an addict again or kill himself or, you know, like he took it and he's like funneling it into his music and using it to help people talk to other people who have had these kind of losses, you know, and that's a pretty admirable thing, I think. [00:44:54] Speaker B: Definitely. [00:44:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And then like all of these people, he's a, you know, big reader and always recommending books and I appreciate that about a person. So that's, you know, something I strive for. [00:45:10] Speaker B: Right on. Right on. Yeah. All right. We're going to, you have a lot. So we're going to your next celebrity. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Okay. I am Going to cut out RC Sprawl. Cuz it's kind of just retread of the same topics. But let's go, let's go with kind of an off the wall one. We're going to go with Lewis J. Gomez, the standup comedian. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Really? I don't think I've ever heard him. [00:45:34] Speaker A: Okay, so he's on my favorite podcast, Legion of Skanks. And he's a very. [00:45:42] Speaker B: That's the podcast your mom started, right? [00:45:48] Speaker C: It's. [00:45:50] Speaker A: There's a great story behind that name, but we don't have time for it tonight. He. So he's a standup comedian. His mother was a prostitute and a junkie and his dad was a pimp in New Jersey. And his dad is stabbed to death. Death when he's like 3 years old. And then his mother kills herself when he's a teenager. And so he's just, he's poor. Like, I mean his mom never made more than like 20 grand a year. Mostly off of welfare, you know, and he came out of that. And when he was, I think he said when he was 11, he started shoveling people's driveway when it snowed to make money. And he's just had a job ever since. Like he's just always gone to work, had a job, started multiple businesses. You know, he was selling comedy club tickets on the street and then started his own company selling comedy club tickets on the street. And he's just like always looking at like what is missing in the market, how do I provide that thing. And so I just, I love that quality about a person because I'm not really naturally a go getter like that, but I feel like I have the ideas sometimes and there's always an excuse not to do something. So I just appreciate like the, the risk taking, you know, that you like believe in yourself enough to like go for this thing and make it happen. [00:47:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:22] Speaker A: You know, he's started what is widely considered the best comedy festival that happens every year. You know, the only one that like comedians actually want to go to. He just started a coffee brand. [00:47:39] Speaker B: You can't just skip right over that. What is that? That conference or whatever it is. [00:47:44] Speaker A: It's called Skank Fest. [00:47:46] Speaker B: Okay. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Because he's on Legion of Skanks. Very unfortunate name because no one wants to go to it. [00:47:52] Speaker C: But it is just a comedy festival [00:47:54] Speaker B: and I want to go to it. [00:47:56] Speaker C: I don't discriminate [00:48:01] Speaker A: but like, you know, like a really high profile person like Louis CK Will be like, what is this thing that I have to do? And then they go once, and they're like, okay, this is the greatest comedy festival. Like, I can't wait to do this every year. [00:48:15] Speaker B: You know, where's it at? [00:48:16] Speaker A: And it used to be up in New York. They moved it to Houston during COVID Then they did, like, three years in Vegas, and now they're doing, like, three years in New Orleans. So they. They're kind of moving it all over. I get why they don't do it in New York anymore, because that's not, like, a great environment for it, I think. [00:48:44] Speaker B: I think I could see how it would go. Like, I buy tickets, we go. And then I'm like, dude, they're just telling a bunch of jokes. Where's all the skanks? [00:48:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I think there is, like, a Miss Skank Fest. So there's, like, a little bit of that. I think they had to kind of do some of that just because that's [00:49:09] Speaker C: what people are expecting when they go to Skankfest. [00:49:13] Speaker A: But, yeah, it's just an unfortunate name because I think a lot of people don't want to be associated with it for that reason, but. And I've never gone, so I don't actually know that this is an awesome festival, but that's just what everyone says, so. But yeah. And then just recently, so just again, on the entrepreneurial mindset, he was considering going on testosterone for various reasons, and his doctor basically told him that he didn't need it. And then he thought, like, what if I could create, like, a supplement for testosterone that would just give you, like, a little bit of a boost in what you needed? And so he just created an instant coffee with testosterone and, like, all these different kind of mushrooms that are good for your brain and stuff. And just within a year had this packaged up. And I hear the ads on every podcast. I listen to. [00:50:14] Speaker B: What's it called? [00:50:15] Speaker A: Body Brain Coffee. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:50:18] Speaker A: And. And so it's just like, I just. I don't know how to create that kind of magic where you just have a thought and you just speak it [00:50:29] Speaker C: into the universe, and it just ends up happening for you. [00:50:32] Speaker A: But it's like this dude started for nothing, you know, considerably less advantage than myself. And throughout his whole life, he's just been able to be like, there should be a better comedy festival. Well, now I'm doing it. There should be, you know, a freaking supplement. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Yeah, but now he's doing it. You know, a lot of his later entrepreneurial ventures are because of the money he had from when he just grinded. [00:51:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:02] Speaker B: You know what I Mean, because you could totally do that. You could take what your. Your industry that you enjoy, and you could totally do that, you know, like, yeah, you could. You could be contracted. You could just go on contract with certain companies, and, I mean, you can offer a service. I mean, I don't know what you're passionate about, but if it's like playing guitar or teaching guitar lessons, I mean, I'm sure there's little tips and tricks that you have that have helped you that maybe aren't in the mainstream, Guitar teaching that you can say, hey, look, I'm gonna release this book, or, you know, whatever it is. But. Yeah, but a lot of his later entrepreneurial stuff. You ain't starting a comedy fest without some bucks and some. Some. Some people and a reputation. [00:51:56] Speaker A: According. According to him, he didn't have hardly a dime to his name until, like, five years ago. So, I mean, I think a lot of this was done with, like, investors and, like, people he was able to sell the vision to, you know, because [00:52:11] Speaker B: always that. [00:52:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:14] Speaker B: So what do you. [00:52:16] Speaker A: That takes. That takes an entrepreneurial mindset to be able to pitch something and sell it and make someone believe it enough to invest some money, you know, And I don't have that either. [00:52:30] Speaker B: Yeah, but if you're passionate about something, you'll have it. Yeah. Because it's not so much that he is the entrepreneurial mindset in that sense. He's just an entrepreneur in the sense of maybe it's adhd. Maybe he just can't stay focused on one thing too long. He gets another good idea. [00:52:51] Speaker A: That's definitely true. [00:52:52] Speaker B: And then next thing you know, he's like, hey, this is, like, awesome. This is better than peanut butter and jelly. And that's where he's at at that point where he's just like, okay, I'm gonna go talk about this, because I love it, you know? [00:53:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:09] Speaker B: So what do you emulate about him? [00:53:13] Speaker A: Just, like, not discounting my own ideas and thoughts and just realizing that, like, everything starts out as just an idea and that maybe some ideas are worth chasing. And I don't need to, like. I don't need to discount my own thoughts as, like, not worthy of being entertained, you know, Like, I can have an idea and go with it and see if it can be something, you know, for sure. And then, probably most importantly, by everyone's account, he is a great father. [00:53:51] Speaker B: He. [00:53:51] Speaker A: He had a kid, I think, 12, 13 years ago. It didn't work out with the mother. So unfortunately, the kid was in, you know, two separate households, but everyone Says, like, despite how nuts this dude is, that he's getting into fights everywhere he goes, he's doing drugs, he's this, that, and the other. He has never let his kids see any of that. He's the greatest father I've ever seen. He's like, he's the one who introduced me to peaceful parenting. I didn't know that as a term or a philosophy until he was talking about it on one of his podcasts. So that's what kind of got me interested in the topic. And yeah. Ever. Everyone just says he's the greatest dad. And that's obviously most important. [00:54:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:40] Speaker B: All right, give me another celebrity. [00:54:46] Speaker A: I've got two more. So let's go with American hero Ron Paul. [00:54:56] Speaker B: Ron. Oh, Ron Paul. [00:54:58] Speaker C: Ron Paul, dude. [00:55:01] Speaker B: The. The politician. [00:55:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Really? [00:55:04] Speaker A: Former politician. Yeah. Here's. Here's why. Brother is 95 years old, maybe 96 at this point, still gets on his show five days a week and says, okay, here's what's going on this week. And just, like, believes so much in liberty and his philosophy that he will still. Well past the point where he needed the money or anything, still goes on his show five times a week to talk about the ideas. I don't think it's like a multi million dollar enterprise from, from all accounts, you know, his political career, you could kind of look at that as a failure in a lot of ways. You know, he obviously, he ran for president like four times and, you know, didn't get very far. He was a congressman for a long time and successfully voted no on everything, but didn't really accomplish that much. But, like, dude still believes in his principles and, you know, gets uncomfortable when people praise him. Like, he's not in this for, like, the name recognition. Like, he really believes that, like, people need to know this stuff. And let's see, that's pretty much all I wrote down for him. But. [00:56:34] Speaker B: So I just appreciate you trying to emulate the work ethic. [00:56:39] Speaker A: No, the principles. The principles, yeah. Believing in your principles so much that it's like, okay, I'm going to go do this. And any congressman can become a multimillionaire by selling out their principles and taking bribes and voting a certain way and doing things. This dude, for 30 fucking years as a congressman did everything that you're not supposed to do to be successful. He voted no on everything. He told people about the Israel Lobby. He told people like, hey, the economy seems great, but that's only because of inflation and it's all going to be crashing down. You know, he just he was always the unpopular one. And now, you know, hashtag Ron Paul was right is regularly trending on Twitter. Like, now everyone sees that this guy was right about everything, and there wasn't anything in it for him to keep going and, and to do that for so long besides the fact that he truly believed in it. [00:57:46] Speaker B: You know, I'm going to tell you right now, if I was a congressman, principles out the door, show me the money, dude. [00:57:57] Speaker A: It would be tough. [00:57:59] Speaker B: Not for me. [00:58:00] Speaker A: I don't know. No, I'm. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it would be tough to not do that. [00:58:08] Speaker B: I'd be like, could just. Bingo. [00:58:17] Speaker A: I think part of it was because he's a doctor, so, like, he probably was doing okay outside of his political career, so he was able. He's also a Christian. I think that helps a lot too, that he, you know, that kind of gave him reason enough to not fall for the shenanigans. But, yeah, you know, you could argue that. Like, okay, his principles are his brand. And so, yes, his brand was saying no to things and being the unpopular guy. But, like, it didn't make him millions of dollars. [00:58:52] Speaker B: Like, no one's buying that. [00:58:53] Speaker C: He's doing fine. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, I, I think he. He did fine for what he did, and he probably made some money off of his show and his books and stuff. Stuff. But, like, he clearly didn't become, like, a billion dollar success from what he did. [00:59:09] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [00:59:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No, I'm, I'm, I'm. That's someone I don't want to emulate. I'm, I'm. I'm doing just fine in that department. [00:59:23] Speaker C: That. [00:59:27] Speaker B: All right, for, for me, I'll go. When I go out, I try and emulate, like, the Rat Pack. And I don't mean that in the sense of, like, I'm going out in a fedora and a suit and I'm [00:59:44] Speaker A: like, you know, banging a waitress in a closet. [00:59:48] Speaker B: Well, sometimes. Sometimes. You got it. However, I will, I will. I want to make sure we're going out to have a good time, and that includes everybody. Like, I want everybody at the bar to enjoy this night. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to. I'm not the guy that wants to go and be the baddest in the bar. I want to be the guy that's like, we're all laughing and I'm not a threat. Like, I am here to have a good time. [01:00:25] Speaker A: You want your positive energy to dominate the Room. [01:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, I just want everybody to. To enjoy themselves, you know, I want to be able to go up to a table and talk to them and. And just have fun. Like, we all know each other, you know? Like, and I've always kind of thought that growing up, like, whenever we started going to bars in. In gangs, if you will, you know, whenever there was, like, five, six, seven guys of us, and we're all going out and we're just like, you know. Yeah, we. We know we can fight. That's great, guys. Cool. Let's go out and have a good time, though. Like, let's go out and, like, all those guys that think, like, we might want to fight or we might be a rowdy bunch or maybe they look rowdy. I want to go and just be like, hey, dude, like, you know, let's have a good time. You know, like, if your girl's up there singing, I'm gonna go up to you and be like, hey, dude, check this out, House. I. I dare you to grab a chair and go sit front and center of your girl, you know? Like, she would love that. You know what I mean? Like, stuff like that. Like, stuff where it's just people are enjoying themselves. And I always saw the Rat Pack as doing that, you know, like, when they went out, they were. They were there. Yeah, they were the coolest in the bar, but they were there to have a good time. They didn't care, you know? [01:01:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:48] Speaker B: So, yeah, I try and emulate them. [01:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I would. I would say the work is done, brother. [01:01:55] Speaker C: Like, I already thought that about you. [01:02:00] Speaker B: What? [01:02:01] Speaker A: I just. When you walk into a restaurant, it [01:02:06] Speaker C: is like, oh, he's here. Whether they know you or not, they realize, like, oh, we're having a good time now. You know? Like, it takes. [01:02:15] Speaker B: I appreciate that. Yeah, I try, man. I try, you know? [01:02:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:20] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Yeah. So there's. There's. There's my second per people or person I emulate outside of a generational one, of course. [01:02:31] Speaker A: Yeah. My last one. And I should not have saved this for last. I didn't. I just went in order of the list. I shouldn't have done this one last. My Aunt Cheryl. I. I appreciate her creativity and the fact that everything she does sucks, but [01:02:51] Speaker C: she keeps doing it. [01:02:53] Speaker A: But beyond that, she got sober about 20 years ago because she had a bit of a problem with the booze. The booze ended up taking out her daughter. You know, it's kind of a family issue. But she realized her problem. She got sober, had great success. 10 year anniversary of her Sobriety. You know what she did? [01:03:22] Speaker B: Queen got drunk. [01:03:24] Speaker A: Nope, nope. She just had a single shot of whiskey because she had gotten so sick of. I think she called it like the arrogance of the people in her AA group. And she didn't want the 10 year chip. She was like, that 10 year chip. I don't want it. [01:03:45] Speaker C: She took a shot of whiskey and started from the bottom. [01:03:49] Speaker A: That was it. She didn't get drunk or anything. She didn't relapse. But like, she was just like, I, I don't care about the chips. I don't care about how long you've been doing this. I don't, you know, you're not above me just because you up five years before I did. [01:04:03] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [01:04:04] Speaker A: Like, and so I appreciate that about her. That she's, she's a real ass dude in that sense. [01:04:12] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie. She sounds kind of, Kind of a bummer. [01:04:16] Speaker A: No, she's cool. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Nah, man. [01:04:19] Speaker A: Oh, she's funny. [01:04:20] Speaker B: I bet you I get her. We gotta go drinking with her. [01:04:24] Speaker A: I think you've met her. [01:04:27] Speaker B: I probably have. [01:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah. No, she, she was super fun drunk until that third to last drink. And then all of a sudden she's being an asshole to everyone and it just kind of gets sad. I do have, I do have fond memories as a kid, her being drunk. I was like 10 when she got sober, but I remember it a little. And you know, what else did I write down here? Yeah, you know, she lost her only daughter and her favorite grandkid all in the space of five years. And she hasn't let that destroy her. I mean, she's obviously affected by it, but like, she focuses on. [01:05:12] Speaker B: She hasn't let that destroy her life. I'm like, you said she wasn't drinking. [01:05:20] Speaker A: Well, you know, it, in a sense, it destroyed her life, sure. But like, she, you know, she keeps trucking. I. Honestly, dude, I think I'd kill myself if my kid died. I don't, I don't know how I'd get through that. You've got four. So like, you, you're set. Yeah, but I've only got the one. [01:05:43] Speaker B: I've thought about this many a times and yeah, I just think, I think I would go on. And that's the shitty part, dude. Yes. Having four like you said, you think like, well, you got four, you know, you got three other ones, dude. You, you're like, I can't kill myself because I got three other ones. You know, However, I think I think about this sometimes quite a bit. I think A part of me would just die. I wouldn't be the same man that. That most people knew. I think. I think a lot of the joy in my life would be gone. [01:06:27] Speaker A: Yes, I forgot this, but I found it in my journal. I guess I had. I had written this in my journal right after she said it, and I somehow forgot, but it broke my heart to read it again. She told me one night not long after her daughter died, she. [01:06:46] Speaker B: Oh, you're okay. [01:06:48] Speaker A: Yeah, she. She looked me dead in the eyes and she said, my light went out. [01:06:54] Speaker C: And it's just like, fuck, dude. [01:06:56] Speaker A: Like, yeah, you're still living, but, like, you know, it's just like, what are you living for? You know? Like, your whole plan is. I mean, your whole plan for life involves your kids, your grandkids. You know, It's. It's. But, you know, she keeps trucking, dude. That's the thing. Like, she keeps doing, you know, pottery and painting and all this stuff, and it's not a replacement by any means. Like, you can still tell that she's, like, greatly affected, but, like, I. I appreciate someone who doesn't just blow the top of their head off and keeps going, you know? Yeah, there's a great documentary called the Other F Word. The Other F Word being fatherhood. And it's a documentary all about, like, punk musicians who became dads. [01:07:48] Speaker B: Yeah. You brought this up in another podcast. [01:07:51] Speaker C: Oh, great. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies. And Dwayne Peters talks about how his oldest son passed away in a car crash really suddenly when he was, like, 17. It's heartbreaking moment in the movie, and he. He's crying and stuff, and he talks about how the second he heard the news, he started running to his gun because he just thought if he shot himself quickly enough, he could, like, find his son in the afterlife. And then he gets on his knees with the gun up to his head, and he realizes he's got two younger sons that still need him. And he just realizes, like, I can't go anywhere, you know? Like, I can't fix this now, you know? And it's like, dude, like, yeah, like, having. Having. I. I was kind of. I was joking when I mentioned, you know, that you have four daughters. Having other kids doesn't make that better. It's just. Yeah, you can see it in anyone I know who's lost a kid. Like, they're. There's. Something is gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the saddest thing. [01:09:04] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie, man. [01:09:05] Speaker A: You've. [01:09:05] Speaker B: You've brought up some things about your aunt pottery and like, I don't know, quilting or some. [01:09:20] Speaker C: I'm not gonna like where this goes. [01:09:24] Speaker B: I don't know, man. Seems like I'm not only gonna say nothing, man. [01:09:30] Speaker A: You say it sounds like she should be drinking again. [01:09:34] Speaker B: She sounds like a real. I fucking downer, bro. [01:09:37] Speaker A: I don't disagree with you, dude. I'm not like a sober dude, so, like, I. I get getting a handle on it, you know, but like, I don't know. [01:09:49] Speaker B: Did she always do pottery or was that, like her thing she picked up [01:09:54] Speaker A: that I was a little too young to remember? I think she's always kind of been a bohemian kind of chick like that, but I. That might have been like a replacement thing, like a therapy thing when she got sober. I'd have to ask her, but I know I've said some bummer things, but you gotta believe me when I say [01:10:19] Speaker C: she's a great time. [01:10:21] Speaker A: She. [01:10:22] Speaker C: She is [01:10:25] Speaker A: a bitch. Like, she will just say anything to anyone. I love it. [01:10:30] Speaker B: I. I can't appreciate that. Yeah, I. I do enjoy people that just say what is on their mind. [01:10:37] Speaker A: She reminds me of your sister a little bit. Not. Yeah, I'll cut that out. The other one, the one that we were hanging out in the garage with that one night. Yeah, Just like a cool chick who's gonna have a smoke and talk and have a good time, you know, it's kind of who she is. [01:11:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so we are going to be in California, and we're going to be there from the. 29 June to 3 July. Cool. So we'll be there the whole week. And yeah, you're welcome to bring the. The baby and the wife. [01:11:28] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. [01:11:30] Speaker B: I mean, it might be best. Dude. I know I'm not like her style, but kind of everybody's style. [01:11:39] Speaker A: That's what I'm afraid of. [01:11:40] Speaker B: I picked up the neighbor today because she was walking and I'm like, hey, you know, it's. [01:11:46] Speaker A: It's. [01:11:46] Speaker B: It's number four is friend's mom. And I'm like, hey, do you need Ryan? She's like, yeah, that'd be great. I'm just going to Circle K. I'm like, oh, come on in. Get on in. So she gets in. [01:11:57] Speaker A: You dirty dog. [01:11:59] Speaker B: Well, she gets in, she's like, oh, we'll just call her husband Frank. Frank would be so pissed if he knew I got in the car or if I was right. We would. [01:12:09] Speaker A: Hell yeah, he would. What do you think he'd think if [01:12:11] Speaker C: he gave Me, a hair job? Would that be crazy? Frank would blow his top. [01:12:18] Speaker B: Well, I was like, oh, really? Okay. And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he's. She. She started rambling on about him. And she was. Yeah. I told. I told number four, like, man, your. Your dad's pretty cute. I was like, oh, here it goes. Here it goes. You're gonna. You're gonna. You're planting seeds. Oh, I. I like you. Cool. [01:12:39] Speaker C: Get out of my car, Jezebel. [01:12:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't like you. [01:12:48] Speaker C: Everywhere you go, man. Everywhere you go, I try and tell these people, bro. [01:12:56] Speaker B: You know, the ex wife didn't. Didn't understand. She's like, how can you. How could you? I'm like, how could I not? [01:13:02] Speaker A: How could I not? [01:13:03] Speaker C: Do you know what it's like everywhere you go? Being sexualized the way I am being a piece of meat to the. These broads. Can you imagine? [01:13:12] Speaker B: You know, I get tired of kicking them off. Sometimes I just let them have their way. [01:13:19] Speaker C: You had. [01:13:20] Speaker A: You had more of a problem with it than she did, I think. [01:13:24] Speaker B: I know, dude. [01:13:25] Speaker C: I think you got hit on more than she did. [01:13:30] Speaker B: That ain't no joke, dude. And Big Black. [01:13:32] Speaker A: I'm not. [01:13:33] Speaker C: I'm not. I spent a lot of time with you guys. I've seen it. [01:13:40] Speaker A: So. [01:13:42] Speaker B: So. All right, now, Now. Now we're going to transition real quick. Who. Because I don't really emulate anybody else, and I don't mean that in a sense of, like, my own, man. There's. I. I sat and I thought about this. Like, who do I emulate? And those two, the Rat Pack and Chucky are the ones. The only ones that really came to mind right away where I was like. I know when I go out, I think Rat Pack mentality. I know when I walk at certain times, I think Chucky, you know, Like, I just. I don't really have anybody else that I necessarily, you know. This next one. Let's just say this next one's a little tricky because this man I emulate. And I also don't emulate intentionally. That's the father. So he is definitely on my. [01:14:39] Speaker A: We could both attest to that with our dads. [01:14:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:43] Speaker B: Yes. He is definitely someone I don't care to emulate. But there are certain things or mannerisms that I remember seeing when I grew up that I did admire, you know, and they're the. You know, the firm handshakes or the look in somebody in the eye telling somebody, like, what's up? You know, like. Like telling them how it is. And not beating around the bush or trying to, you know, trying to, you know, pussyfoot out of something, but being direct. However, I think I do it in a different manner than he does. And it helps that I'm good looking, so that kind of softens the blow, you know, I think sometimes they're just lost in my eyes. They don't know I was speaking to them. So when I say you, you know what I mean, they're like, huh? Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. I'm sorry if I. I messed up. [01:15:46] Speaker A: You can't meet my wife. [01:15:50] Speaker B: Come on, dude. You have another kid. Actually, I'll give you. Give you another. [01:15:54] Speaker A: Actually, you know what? Do this for me. Seduce her. Seduce her. Get me out of this thing. [01:16:03] Speaker B: All right, let's do it. [01:16:04] Speaker C: Let's set it up, dude. [01:16:05] Speaker A: Just like extract. That's the plot of extract. [01:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah. So this how it's going to happen. You're going to have to get drunk, you're going to have to pass out easy. You're going to leave the kid in a vulnerable state. I'm going to pick up the kid. [01:16:18] Speaker A: Yep. [01:16:18] Speaker B: I'm gonna nurture the kid. Women love that shit when you nurture their kid. Right, father? Nurture the kid. [01:16:24] Speaker C: Great father. [01:16:25] Speaker A: If there's one thing I've told her about you repeatedly, it's how great of a fucking dad you are. So that seeds already planted. [01:16:31] Speaker B: Bam. Dude, she gonna see me playing with the kid. I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna pull my pants up a little higher than normal just to get that fucking moose knuckle going. That way she knows I'm packing, you know? Yeah. I'm gonna wear all black when I meet her. [01:17:00] Speaker A: All right. No turning back on it. [01:17:03] Speaker C: This is the plan. [01:17:04] Speaker B: Nope. Yep. Yep. Hope you got another one in the. In the pocket because. Yeah, you're gonna use another one. [01:17:16] Speaker A: I'll have to keep my voice down. We were talking about you for some reason. Oh. It was my dad's birthday. That's why my dad brought you up and asked how you're doing, and stuff. And we were talking and I was like, yeah, you know, if you ever get to meet. I was talking to my wife. I was like, if you ever get to meet him, like, you're either just going to love him or hate him. [01:17:42] Speaker C: Like, he's a very polarizing dude that way. Like, you either just are all in or all out. [01:17:49] Speaker A: And. And then my sister goes like, yeah, you know, like pretty much all of your friends flirted with me at one [01:17:56] Speaker C: time or another, but he's the only one who I thought really would. [01:18:05] Speaker B: Seriously. Oh, I've thought about it. [01:18:12] Speaker C: I didn't. [01:18:14] Speaker A: You've said that. [01:18:14] Speaker C: And I didn't say that, but I was thinking it. I was like, yeah, you would have. Were a lot of lonely nights working on this house. [01:18:32] Speaker B: Honestly, your sister's personality is. It's. It's just like. I don't know. I love your sister's personality, dude. You know? [01:18:46] Speaker A: Everyone does. [01:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. I dug her personality, and she's. I don't think she's ugly. It's not like I'm looking at you or something. You know, when you, like. But you know when you meet someone and you know their family and you're like, I can't date her. She looks just like her father or her brother. [01:19:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:06] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And it's like, okay, good. Good example is Stretch Marks has two sisters, and so they are suggested to be friends of mine on insta. And I'm like, oh, you know what? Okay, let's see what his sister's. You know, like, all right. You know, like, markets open. You know, they look just like him, and I'm like, I can't do it. You know? Yeah, they're pretty girls, but they all have, like. Including him, which is the main reason why people think he's gay. He's got long eyelashes that make it look like. [01:19:46] Speaker A: Remember that's one of the first things you told me about him. Yeah. [01:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah. It makes it look like he's wearing, like, mascara or something. Well, they have the same eyes. I could not look into those eyes every night and just be like, you know what I mean? [01:20:00] Speaker A: Bring in a whole new meaning to Stretch Marks. [01:20:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:04] Speaker A: Yeah. No, that's. That's what we always used to say about dude. We were like, she's cute, but it really just is. [01:20:13] Speaker C: In a wig, she. She's undeniably cute. I don't know. Maybe I'm gay or something, but, like, [01:20:22] Speaker A: maybe I. [01:20:22] Speaker C: Maybe I should take another look at maybe. Maybe I'm working too hard here. [01:20:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I was gonna say it's probably easier. I've seen those. I've seen those Frisco pictures you guys have. [01:20:34] Speaker C: Dude. [01:20:35] Speaker A: So I just got an iPhone, and so all of my old icloud pictures just automatically downloaded onto the phone. Phone. And that one popped up as, like, a memory. [01:20:44] Speaker C: As, like, on this date for 10 years ago, you would do this. I was like, it really was batshit. [01:20:53] Speaker A: Not only what he did, but that [01:20:55] Speaker C: he asked me to take a picture [01:20:56] Speaker A: of it and Send it to you. [01:20:58] Speaker B: I thought it was actually great that you guys did that trip. [01:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I do it a lot differently now. [01:21:09] Speaker B: Yeah, you probably wouldn't be taking pictures of guys with boners. [01:21:12] Speaker A: Sure. Well, I don't know if it was [01:21:16] Speaker C: an attraction, I might. [01:21:19] Speaker A: No, I. I would have done more. It was just like, once we got there, it was like, who? We could do this, but that's pretty expensive. We could do that, but we kind of spent all the money on the hotel, so [01:21:33] Speaker C: I would have. [01:21:34] Speaker A: I would have just, you know, done more of the things, you know. [01:21:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So. Okay. So the only one person I have really to not emulate is my father to a degree. [01:21:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I would echo that. I'd say many, many great things. Most generous person I've ever met, you know, will literally fall down and die to make people laugh. But you know, you. You know, all of the faults and all of the. The history there, and I see it. Oh, I see it. When that smoothie fell on my foot [01:22:18] Speaker C: this, this afternoon, I. I just, you [01:22:22] Speaker A: know, have your like life flashes before your eyes. I had flashes of like kicking holes [01:22:27] Speaker C: in walls and fucking screaming and stuff. [01:22:30] Speaker A: And then had a moment to come back down to earth and be like, nope, that's not what we're doing. Better path. [01:22:38] Speaker B: That's good. I'm proud of you for that, I really am. Cuz that'll mess a kid up. Like. Like there was a time I threw a Dixie cup at. At Big Country. It was empty. You know, it's a plastic red cup. [01:22:55] Speaker A: It's the gesture that counts. Yeah, but I bet you got some [01:23:00] Speaker C: demons out with that plastic cup. Oh, I bet that felt good. [01:23:04] Speaker A: Yeah, but Siri put numbers on my wish list. [01:23:12] Speaker B: Number four was in the room. And it's the. It's like the one thing she will bring up every so many years where she's like, why did you throw that cup at mom? And I'm like, sweetheart, it was a empty plastic cup. Looked worse than what it was. But you know, I can't tell her, like, well, your mom was being a little bitch, saying I was like my dad telling me not to be my. [01:23:39] Speaker A: You know, be patient, be patient. Because when she's 13, she's not going to need to ask anymore. [01:23:47] Speaker C: She's going to have a few of her o Dixies cups. [01:23:55] Speaker B: Yeah. So we've been watching documentaries myself in Miami and I've been planting little seeds. So a lot of them are like murder mysteries. Guy kills his family or, you know, guy kills his wife or the white you know, just something. Guy kills somebody and ends up getting with a girl. And he tells her, hey, like, before we get married, like, we should probably be open about everything. I killed someone and buried him out in the woods. And, you know, some of the instances, the girl's like, you know, I. I just. I stayed with him. I didn't leave him. And, you know, and I'm like, that's really. That's. That's a good girl right there. [01:24:45] Speaker A: That's a ride or die for sure. [01:24:46] Speaker B: And she's like, why do you say that? I'm like, because she didn't. Like, you know, she didn't tell. He shouldn't tell on him. And when it's murder mystery stuff about killing a wife, I'm always like, huh? That's how he. Okay, whatever. I remember that one. She's like, what are you saying? I'm like, nothing, baby. Nothing, babe. I was just commenting that this is a good, like, this crazy show. And she's like, are you trying to. Like, what are you. And she'll just look at me and I'll just be like, dude, nothing. What do you. Nothing. [01:25:17] Speaker C: You're gaslighting her. [01:25:19] Speaker B: Well, like, because it started out we were watching like, 2000s or whatever, and it was always like some con man, you know, con 20 women out of, you know, total of 1.2 million, you know, and I'm like, ah, I. And I wonder, like, it does the she ever. Because they'll be like, he came in, he love bombed me, swooped me off my feet, you know, just did all the nicest thing, open my car door for me, and all this stuff that I do. And I often wonder, does she think that I'm gonna do that to her? You know what I mean? Yeah. So whenever I try and let her think I'm gonna. [01:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah, just keep the door open to it. Just keep her on her. [01:26:12] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [01:26:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:14] Speaker B: I just. I just want to, you know, plant little seeds. So if it ever happens, I can say, well, you kind of saw this coming. [01:26:23] Speaker C: There were foreshadowings, whack. [01:26:26] Speaker A: We were watching something. It might have even been more than one documentary. But whenever there's, like, a guy who kills his wife and, like, gets with another chick, I always just go, like, good for this guy. And then cover my head because it's coming. [01:26:46] Speaker B: No, I. I kind of. I kind of. I'm pretty similar in that sense. You know, I'm rooting for the home team. You know, everybody thinks, you know, nobody deserves murder. What about the chick that said the N word inside the. You know, to her husband, the white woman that said the N word to her black husband when they were inside the elevator. You know what I mean? [01:27:16] Speaker A: That's. Look, it ain't popular, but I always ask, what did the say? It's the Bill Burr bit, dude. Like, I know it's played out. I know it's like a hack premise at this point, but, like, he made that point with Rihanna. He's like, okay, if we can just admit that, like, men who beat women should be killed or whatever, can we [01:27:38] Speaker C: just admit that an ass whooping doesn't fall out of the sky? Like, what did she say? What did she say to Chris Brown before he started punching her in the face? I mean, she didn't ask for a tissue, and then he just started smacking her. [01:27:57] Speaker B: No, that's true, though, dude. I mean, like, that was what my question was about the Ray Rice situation when he's beating his girl in the elevator. Like, yeah, what did. [01:28:05] Speaker A: So that's what it was. She. She called him the N word. [01:28:07] Speaker B: I don't know. That's what I'm guessing, [01:28:11] Speaker A: man. Imagine having a black wife and you don't use it, but you got that [01:28:17] Speaker C: card in your back pocket anytime you want to play it. [01:28:20] Speaker B: So the closest I ever been was dating an illegal Hispanic woman who didn't speak English. However, she understood. Get you and your illegal ass kids out of my house. She understood that really good. All of a sudden, she's proficient in English. [01:28:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:28:45] Speaker C: She knows some legal codes. [01:28:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So that was about the closest I got to it. You know? [01:28:51] Speaker A: I can't remember what it was. Shit. I know it was, like, hilariously not a big deal, but just because I can't remember what it was, let's just say, like, my wife left a load of laundry in the washer and, like, didn't put it in the dryer, and [01:29:08] Speaker C: just at the top of my lungs just went, you goddamn spec. What did you do? [01:29:20] Speaker A: And it was just so over the top that everyone had to laugh, you know? [01:29:23] Speaker B: Is your wife Mexican? [01:29:25] Speaker A: Half Mexican, yeah. [01:29:28] Speaker B: Half Mexican, half wap. Right? [01:29:30] Speaker A: Yep. [01:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. I've been using that word a lot lately, man. [01:29:35] Speaker A: It's crazy. [01:29:35] Speaker B: Such a great word. You know what I mean? [01:29:38] Speaker A: Guinea hits a little harder. [01:29:40] Speaker B: Guinea, yeah. [01:29:42] Speaker A: Oh, and there's another one. What's. What's the Oof. Let me look it up. I know that there's. There's a third one that I was using for a minute that just, like, really made me feel edgy when I Said it. [01:29:58] Speaker B: I like to say European spic. You know what I mean? Because they're basically the European version of Mexicans. [01:30:08] Speaker A: Yeah, not basically. They are dago. [01:30:12] Speaker B: Oh, dago. [01:30:13] Speaker C: Dago is a great one. [01:30:16] Speaker A: Guido. That's a little. [01:30:18] Speaker B: All right, so what's dago mean? [01:30:21] Speaker A: Derogatory term for Mediterranean people. Originally derived from the Spanish name Diego. [01:30:29] Speaker B: I was. Dude, I was. I was wondering. Because when you said dago, I was like, man, I felt like as a kid, we called a lot of people around us dago, but I was like, no, I think that was Diego. I think that was the dude's name. And then, sure enough. Wow. Okay. [01:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:46] Speaker B: What does guinea mean? [01:30:50] Speaker A: The ethnic slur? Guinea. Oh, it's specifically for Italian Americans. Not just Italians. Originated in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Stems from guinea Negro, an old term used for black people from the guinea coast of West Africa. [01:31:12] Speaker B: What the fuck? [01:31:14] Speaker A: The transference to Italians, this term was adapted into a contemptuous epithet for Italian immigrants, particularly those from southern Italy and Sicily. The slur was driven by the darker, swarthy complexions of these immigrants. Racist attitudes at the time often placed Anglo groups lower on the social hierarchy. And the slur was used to imply that southern Italians were not genuinely white and were socially or culturally inferior. That last part I have no problem with. They are not white, they are not white, and they are inferior. [01:31:52] Speaker B: I think we found a loophole. [01:31:55] Speaker A: We're basically saying the N word when we say guinea. [01:31:58] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:32:01] Speaker A: yeah. [01:32:04] Speaker B: Now WAP is without papers. [01:32:08] Speaker A: I'll tell you, man, like, if you watch Breaking Bad or, like, Ozark, and they go to, like, Mexico and you meet the, like, big cartel dude, there's something about that dude that's cool. Like, I have no problem with, like, an unapologetically Mexican dude, but there's just something about the Godfather, Sopranos, Jersey Shore kind of culture that just genuinely sickens me. Like, I. [01:32:40] Speaker C: It's the only culture that I really [01:32:43] Speaker A: look at and go, yeah, I'd move [01:32:45] Speaker C: if these people lived near me. Like, I got no problem with black people, no problem with Hispanics. I would move if there was an Italian family next to me. [01:32:57] Speaker B: Look, I'm not saying this for any other reason than I've had. I've. No, I. I've done some construction in. In some nice areas, and I've done construction in some LA areas. I have no problem personally with black people. I got a lot of black friends, and I've told what I'm about to say to them. Yeah, to them. [01:33:23] Speaker A: Hey, hold on. Can you stop Real quick. Can you stop. Can you just start over and say you have a lot of black friends? [01:33:29] Speaker B: Okay. Why? [01:33:30] Speaker A: Just do it. [01:33:32] Speaker B: I have a lot of black friends. [01:33:34] Speaker A: And that's fine these days. [01:33:37] Speaker B: That's what you wanted to do? [01:33:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I do that to my cousin all the time. [01:33:42] Speaker A: If I ever bring up that she's got a black husband, I'll be like, my cousin's married to a black guy. And that's fine these days. [01:33:51] Speaker C: It's just like, why did you need to say that? [01:33:53] Speaker A: I don't know. That's the funniest thing to me. Okay, go on. [01:33:55] Speaker B: Sorry. So I don't have a problem with them, however, I don't want them in my neighborhood. I used to count them. Like, we would have this black family we were really close with, and we were driving one day home from Walmart. This is in Foothill Ranch. And he sees a black guy across the street, and I'm like. He goes, oh, right on, man. Some brothers are moving out here. And I say, yeah, I love you guys. You know that, right? [01:34:26] Speaker C: But let me soften the blow here a little bit. [01:34:32] Speaker B: I don't want you guys living in my neighborhood, though. Like a couple here and there. Great. You know, the token black guy for the neighborhood. [01:34:39] Speaker A: Great seasoning. [01:34:41] Speaker B: Yeah. But I don't want this to be a predominantly black area. Let's just get that straight. [01:34:48] Speaker A: Okay, so that. That's kind of two different things. I was disagreeing with you be. Only because at the start. I was disagreeing with you because I don't have a problem with anyone's skin tone. I have problems with certain cultural behaviors, and almost no black people I've ever met live up to the stereotypes that I don't like. So in and of itself. [01:35:18] Speaker B: No, you're right. Yeah. [01:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah. But. Well, what I'm saying is, in and of itself, I have no problem with living in a neighborhood with the black people. I know, but then you changed it [01:35:28] Speaker C: up instead of predominantly black neighborhood, and that immediately changes what we're talking about. Like, we're talking about fucking Crenshaw or something, like. [01:35:36] Speaker A: Yeah, no, we're talking like, what did [01:35:39] Speaker B: the black kid get for Christmas? [01:35:40] Speaker A: Exactly. No, exactly. [01:35:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:35:44] Speaker A: And that. But again, it's not just what they look like. It's a cultural behavior. And when you're talking predominantly black black neighborhood, you've kind of. You're not. You're not talking about Misha Viejo, and [01:35:59] Speaker C: there's six black families on this one street. [01:36:01] Speaker A: You're talking about a ghetto. [01:36:04] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, Rancho Cucamonga didn't come Rancho Cucamonga. Until eventually it became predominantly culturally. However, here's the thing. I was trying to explain this to Miami. I said, look, I'm really not racist. You know that. I said, but here's the thing. [01:36:25] Speaker C: It's hilarious that you have to keep prefacing it. I mean, no, 100% I'm not. [01:36:34] Speaker B: But here's the thing. Someone's talking in a theater. What culture do you think they come from? [01:36:43] Speaker A: They're either black or Middle Eastern in my experience. Experience. [01:36:47] Speaker B: Yeah, but Middle Eastern is usually talking to their. Their friends too loud. They have no self awareness, you know. Oh, so you know, you're like, okay, okay, bro. Hey, look, we're in the middle of a movie. Black people are talking to, like, the screen. [01:37:03] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, yeah, I get what you're saying. [01:37:05] Speaker B: And they're like commentating, and you're just like, dude. Like, no, bro, bro. However, I was given the green light that if a baby ever cries in a theater, I can do the. If someone's stabbing that baby, well, can they? You know what I mean? Like, she. She won't let me do it in stores anymore. She gets really pissed off when I do it in stores. But she was like, that's the only time you could do it. Because she finally heard the joke from Thomas Segura. And I was like, sweet. I'll take that. I'll take that. Now, I did get in trouble last. Not last week, about, about a month ago, I got in trouble. There was a car in front of me. Didn't know what the they were doing. We're pulling into Scottsdale Mall. They're kind of all over the place. They're blinker right, blinker left. And then they just kind of like get in front of me and it's their turn at the stop sign. It's a stop and go. That's what a stop sign is. You stop, 1, 2, 3, go. They stop. Start unloading the car. People getting out. [01:38:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God, right? [01:38:15] Speaker B: People getting out, walking to the sides, all this other stuff. Well, one of the females that got out was wearing these short shorts. She was an older woman, and when she got out, you could see that she had full cheek, blue underwear on. So I was like, excuse me, miss, your underwear is showing. Number three was with me, and Miami was with me. They were pissed. They were like, stop. And I was like, no, she didn't hear me. Excuse me, miss, your underwear are showing. And like, dude, you need to be locked up. [01:38:56] Speaker C: You need to be locked up. [01:38:58] Speaker B: I said, it four or five times and they're getting like. The more I'm saying it, the more everybody in the car is getting pissed off at me. Stop, you're embarrassing me. I was like, dude, guys, would you not want to know if you're underwear or, you know, we're showing? No, I wouldn't. Well, I would. I'm just trying to do a public service, you know, for this lady, you know? Yeah, but they were getting so pissed off, dude. [01:39:22] Speaker A: But yeah, that is so funny. [01:39:24] Speaker C: Oh my God, dude, you're a maniac. [01:39:28] Speaker A: I wouldn't even. I might do it, but I wouldn't even think to do it. That's the thing. [01:39:34] Speaker B: Oh, I was doing it. [01:39:35] Speaker A: You're so. [01:39:36] Speaker B: Especially after they stopped in front of me and unloaded the car. Oh, yeah. Hey, jackass, your underwear is showing. And you're gonna see it because they showed. Even when she was standing up straight, her shorts were shorter than her underwear. Yeah, but I don't think she realized that. [01:39:51] Speaker A: See, that's the thing. You keep enough of a level head to find the coolest way to do it. But I would just be seeing red and I'd be blaring the horn and [01:40:03] Speaker C: screaming out the way. I wouldn't see the opportunity in front of me because of my rage. [01:40:08] Speaker B: See, I do it. I do. I do the horn. In fact, like, I do it so [01:40:12] Speaker A: much that you don't get lost in the sauce. That's the thing. [01:40:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Like Miami. I was driving today in Miami. I was like, what are you honking at so early in the morning? I'm not honking. She goes, really? I said, yeah, I didn't honk yet. She's like, oh, maybe it's like a future honk that's coming or something like that. I honk probably once or twice every time I'm on the phone with her. And she's like, why? Cuz this person got in front of me without a blinker. This person's driving too slow. They're going 35 and a 45. This, you know, like, I'm the honking guy. For sure. For sure. [01:40:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I like a honk. I've started honking because of this phenomenon that I've. I've noticed just for a couple years, but when you're at a stop sign, not a light, but a sign, and the person who was waiting there when you got there wants you to go, no, I now honk when people need to go. Not to stop someone. [01:41:15] Speaker C: I'm now honking to let people know you need to take Your turn. [01:41:19] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I'm. I'm a big diamond lane honker, too. If. If the right lane, that is not in the diamond lane, but the. I'm sorry, the very left lane, but not the diamond lane, is passing the diamond lane, and you're just coasting. I'm gonna. I'm gonna honk. I'm gonna keep honking until you get the fuck out the way and learn some manners. Just get out, pop out. Let me pass. Pop back in. [01:41:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:46] Speaker B: You know. [01:41:47] Speaker A: Yeah. See, I. I set the cruise control to the speed limit. I don't leave probably the third lane. I'm like, second, third lane the whole way because I can. I don't have to be any further over because I'm passing everyone, you know, Like, I'm good. [01:42:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:42:06] Speaker A: You know, [01:42:09] Speaker B: I'm left lane, 85, 90 every day. [01:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:42:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Huh. [01:42:19] Speaker A: Have you seen Bad Thoughts? [01:42:24] Speaker B: Ooh, bad Thoughts. [01:42:26] Speaker A: Yeah. The Tom Segura Show. [01:42:29] Speaker B: Okay. I'm glad you brought this up. This has been bothering me. No, I haven't seen it, but here's the thing. I've come to this realization that the more popular a comedian gets, the more unrelatable his journey jokes are. So let's take the great Kevin Hart. I say that, like, sarcastically. He started off really funny, hilarious. But as he got bigger, he's unrelatable. He doesn't have the everyday problems we have anymore. You know, and if you watch his last couple standups, he's given, like, shout outs to, like, his sponsors, and then at the same time saying jokes that just aren't funny. If you have to laugh at your own joke, you know, to try and get the crowd, I don't. I just. I think that's cheap. Cheap comedy. Yeah. And I stopped watching Tom Segura. Last two. His last two, to me, weren't as funny as before. As before, I'm just kind of like, okay. Like, I feel like they just try too hard at times. [01:43:55] Speaker A: I get that. And I think it's mostly because a comedian works for 10 years on that first special, and then probably some leftover material goes into the second special, and then they start churning them out like, once a year. And. And the. The material just doesn't have time to cook. And it just never gets as good as that first couple. [01:44:18] Speaker B: Well, here's the thing. A lot of my comedy. A lot of things that I'll joke about that people laugh and they're like, I can't believe you're talking about this stuff. It's the. That I go through every day. It's like bending over the sink, brushing my teeth. I remember the first time. I'm like, what the is going on? What is that feeling? And I looked, and my tits were shaking with me. My whole chest was shaking. I was like, that's okay. I think these comedians, they get such a lifestyle that they don't necessarily. They're more or less distracted by. They have to go to this, then to that, then to this. They have this to do. They have that to do where before it. It's kind of like you were saying they had 10 years, but they had 10 years to cook on it because they were living a simpler life. Like the audience. You know what I mean? [01:45:13] Speaker C: That's why. [01:45:14] Speaker A: That's why everyone does airplane jokes, because that's. They're always on an airplane, and it's like, oh, yeah. The one thing about their life that the audience can relate to. Sometimes I don't ever fly. But, you know. [01:45:28] Speaker B: No, you're right. You're right. [01:45:30] Speaker A: But I will say for. For bad thoughts. It's a sketch show, so some of them are great. Some of them are terrible, just like all sketch shows. But there's a couple gems in there. I think you'd like [01:45:44] Speaker B: to check it out. I watched, like, one of them and then ended up falling asleep to the second episode. Yeah, I did make it to season two of Thomas Tires. [01:45:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It gets better, right? [01:45:59] Speaker B: It does. It does. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. [01:46:03] Speaker A: Okay. [01:46:05] Speaker B: Well, I was telling Miami. [01:46:06] Speaker A: Qualification coming there. [01:46:08] Speaker B: Well, I was telling Miami. I was like, it's funny. I don't think his supporting cast is funny. Yeah, you know, like his boss, his cousin, whatever. I don't think he's funny. Nothing he has said has ever made me really laugh. [01:46:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. Because I know people like that in real life, and it just pisses me off. It's like, dude, just stop being a dork. [01:46:38] Speaker C: Come on, dude. Like, you're fucking this up big time. [01:46:41] Speaker A: Like, I actually kind of get mad by, like, some of the decisions he makes and stuff, and that's not what you want. [01:46:48] Speaker B: Yeah, well. Yeah, well, I also. Okay, so this explains why you liked Arrested Development. I didn't like Arrest Development because I felt the comedy was. Was. Was televised. I thought the upcoming joke was already televised when they set it up, so there's an instance going on. Oh, he's gonna staple himself to a wall. Wouldn't you know it? He nailed himself to a wall because he doesn't know how to use a nail gun. Oh, that's hilarious. I saw that coming. Oh, he's gonna fucking be infatuated with his cousin. Oh, it's hilarious. He's infatuated with his cousin. You know, it was just like. I just felt like you. You saw a lot of it coming before it came. [01:47:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I. I think it had a good blend of that kind of shit. Like, especially with the David Cross character. He's obviously the most ridiculous dude, so you get the quickest, like, hit of comedy off of him. And then there's. That's like. Oh, you find that out, and that changes how you see the first three seasons of the show. That's like a joke that they were setting up forever, you know, And. And you don't even realize it's a joke until you see the reveal. You know, there's. [01:48:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't make it pretty long. [01:48:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the thing. It's. It's a commitment to. And also, you have to watch it multiple times to get everything. Because it's. Yeah, it's kind of like Lost, you know, and it's like. It's just. It made sense when I was 16 and I had nothing to do, but, like, if someone pitched that show to me now, I'd be like, yeah, I don't have time to watch this show five times to get the joke like that. [01:48:57] Speaker C: There's nothing about that that sounds appealing [01:48:58] Speaker A: to me now, you know? [01:49:02] Speaker B: True. Yeah. Now, I know it's mainstream, but Friends, the Office, I could do those. And if you're asking me, I think Friends is actually funnier than the Office. [01:49:14] Speaker A: You're in the head. That's crazy. [01:49:18] Speaker B: Well, I mean, like, the moments [01:49:22] Speaker A: and [01:49:22] Speaker B: some of them I can't relate to, you know, Like Ross. I can't relate really to Ross, but there's things he does where I'm just like. That's hilarious. Yeah, I think the Office is hilarious, but in a. I don't want to say a dumber way, but it's, like, [01:49:43] Speaker A: unrelatable because it's so nuts. [01:49:47] Speaker B: Well, no, but in a dumber way. Like, yeah, my. How the turntables. You know, like, Michael Scott was just like, the first three seasons great. And I love watching the Office. I love the Office. But, man, I really. I hated when Michael left. [01:50:10] Speaker A: Yeah. It's never as bad as I remember it when I do. I have only watched through it a couple times since then, but, like, I always say, like, I'm not gonna watch those last seasons, and then I just sort of let the auto play go. [01:50:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:50:24] Speaker A: And then it's like, okay, this isn't, like, as bad As I remember it being like, it was, it was okay. It's not. But like the last couple seasons he was on wasn't as good as like, it was already kind of trending down. So it wasn't like that destroyed the show or anything. It was already like a quality. [01:50:42] Speaker B: I still think it's. I love the fact that Dwight stayed. Yeah, he's. He's hilarious and. [01:50:48] Speaker A: But they all get so cartoonish. And that's what happens to every show. Like, you've done all the jokes with this one kind of character, so then they just have to get like more ridiculous, you know, like on It's Always Sunny, like Charlie Day's character is a full blown now. Like he was just sort of dim in the first couple seasons, but you had to keep doing that joke, like harder and harder to the point where he's like in illiterate. [01:51:15] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [01:51:16] Speaker A: It's like, it's just kind of getting cartoonish at this point, you know? [01:51:21] Speaker B: Yeah. But Office and Friends are probably two of my favorite. You know what's hilarious? And I probably said this to you before and you got to watch it. I'll let you have my logins for, I think Peacock or Paramount, whatever. It's on Taxi. [01:51:38] Speaker A: I. I've not gotten into it as much as some of the other shows that I watch, but it was on Nick at night, when I was watching Nick at night. And I, I liked it whenever I saw it, but I never really, like, got into it growing up. [01:51:52] Speaker B: I thought it was stupid. Like, it just didn't. Didn't amuse me as an adult watching it because I wanted to see, like, was the comedy that my parents watched really that funny? Taxi's probably one of the funniest shows, dude. [01:52:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:52:12] Speaker B: Being placed in this, in. In the time frame that it was the 70s and 80s, a lot more Liberty, bro. A lot more racist jokes than. Than I remember. Yeah. Yeah. [01:52:27] Speaker A: That's what I love about all in the Family and even early Office was like, the joke is that this guy is dumb or he's an asshole. So like, so let's do the racist joke because we're not racist. Like, we're saying he's an asshole. You know, like, like Michael Scott does some legitimately racist things in the early seasons. And it wasn't exactly. Exactly. [01:52:54] Speaker C: And it's like, it's not that racism's funny or whatever. It's that this guy is a. [01:52:59] Speaker A: So it's like, I don't know when we lost that, but like, yeah, I love his Whole. [01:53:05] Speaker B: Yeah, Cook, like, burn my foot on a George Foreman and then brings in. Brings in the handicap guy to talk to. [01:53:14] Speaker C: Exactly, dude. It's just ridiculous. [01:53:16] Speaker A: And, like, there, I think it was Superstore, which was actually pretty funny. I didn't finish it, but, like, it was. It was all right. But they had, like, this really dorky, like, old white Christian character. And then just because of the time it was made, he had to be, like, cool with gay people. And I'm like, isn't it a lot [01:53:38] Speaker C: funnier if this guy has a problem [01:53:40] Speaker A: with the gay person? [01:53:41] Speaker C: Like. Like, aren't we kind of closing ourselves off from, like, some pretty funny story lines here? [01:53:47] Speaker A: Like, you know, but it's just. You just can't, for some reason, do that anymore. Or they just choose not to do that anymore. [01:53:54] Speaker B: But I love that Michael Scott did. Chris. Chris Rock. [01:54:00] Speaker A: Yes. Which, dude. I didn't realize the joke for years because I didn't know that bit. I only heard that bit, like, 10 years ago, so forever. I had no idea what he was saying. [01:54:16] Speaker C: I heard the bit and I was. [01:54:17] Speaker A: It just made it so much better. It's hilarious. [01:54:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. All that to say, I think comedy has. I think when they're still young, it's better than when they're older. I think it's more relatable. I think that's what makes Gary Owen still good. Is he never. He never, like, peaked Pete, you know, I mean, like, he. He still does, like, improv shows. [01:54:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:54:48] Speaker B: And I think some of the best comedians are those who can improv. [01:54:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I will say Louis CK Is still just as hilarious as he ever was. Obviously, he was humbled financially and emotionally in the last 10 years, but, you know, there's. Bill Burr is still, you know, pretty funny, but, like, yeah, they. They definitely tend to lose it after two or three specials, but. Oh, the reason I brought up bad thoughts. I can't even remember why I was thinking about this, but something we said earlier, but there's this one skit where [01:55:32] Speaker C: they do a body swap. [01:55:33] Speaker A: The mom and the daughter, like, in Freaky Friday. And so they're just setting up, like, this classic, like, body swap moment. And they're like, oh, my God. Well, I have to do the performance tonight, and you're gonna have to learn [01:55:44] Speaker C: all of my lines and stuff. Like, they're just doing the Cordy and Tom Cigar as the dad, and he's [01:55:51] Speaker A: just sitting on the couch and he's like, well, hold on, let's think about this now. Like, let's say this doesn't get fixed. I can't have sex with you because [01:56:02] Speaker C: you've got the mind of my daughter. And I can't have sex with you because you've got the body of my daughter. And they're just like, yeah, whatever. [01:56:12] Speaker A: So we're doing the show tonight, right? [01:56:14] Speaker C: And he's like, well, hold on, hold on, hold on. So there's. [01:56:21] Speaker A: There's a couple of really good sketches in there, but. [01:56:26] Speaker B: Yeah. What was I gonna say? You brought up bad thoughts. Oh, I talked to Bat. [01:56:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah? [01:56:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I guess it's been, like, a really horrible year for him. In and out of the hospital. He's just in and out of the hospital. [01:56:46] Speaker A: That sucks. [01:56:48] Speaker B: Something's wrong. And then he's not working, so he let his cell phone go. But, yeah, I called his landline and left him a message, and then he ended up calling me back, and we talked for like an hour or so. [01:57:05] Speaker A: Yeah, but that was good. [01:57:06] Speaker B: He's. He's doing. I mean, like, he's as good as can be, but. Yeah, man, I can't. I couldn't imagine seeing him now. Like, I think it be one of those things where you're like, whoa, dude, like, you got old quick. Yeah. And you were already old. [01:57:23] Speaker A: Is he 60? [01:57:26] Speaker B: If I know. [01:57:27] Speaker A: Dude, I think he just turned 60 probably, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Send me his number. If you think he wouldn't mind you doing that? [01:57:41] Speaker B: No, he wouldn't mind. He said he lost everyone's number because he lost his cell phone. [01:57:45] Speaker A: Yeah, my. I. I would like to call him, but my dad, especially has been talking about getting a hold of him, and I. I don't think he re. I. I told him a couple times that Bat didn't have a cell phone anymore, but I. I don't think he remembered because he kept saying that he's, like, calling him and not hearing back and stuff, so I'd like to put him in college. [01:58:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'll send it to you. [01:58:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I haven't talked to him since the day before my daughter was born. [01:58:21] Speaker B: Really? Yeah. [01:58:24] Speaker A: It's fucked up. That dude loved me. [01:58:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:58:28] Speaker A: That dude poured a lot into me. [01:58:32] Speaker B: Right. Why do we do stretch marks? What? [01:58:36] Speaker A: Why do we do that to our friends? [01:58:40] Speaker B: Do what? [01:58:41] Speaker A: Just not call them. [01:58:43] Speaker B: I didn't fucking move away. I spoke to him all the way up until my divorce, and then he just stopped calling. And when he started to call again, I didn't really want to answer, and so I gave it, I don't know, about a year before I ever answered again. And then when I finally answered, because it was few and far in between, I just was like, dude. Like, I just felt like, you know, everybody that was like in my corner just kind of left once I got divorced, you know, and there were a handful of people that, like, you know, I was talking too frequently through the divorce. And then, you know, a couple months in, they just stopped, you know, answering or calling. And a couple months in were probably like the hardest part of the divorce, you know, where I'm just like, dude, like, I feel lost. I feel like, you know, like, you know, having these thoughts and, you know, I messed everything up. And, and so like, for, for me, I was just kind of like, you know what, dude? Like everybody, all you guys. But you know, you get past that once you get on the other side of the, the, the problem, you know, once, once everything kind of smooths over, then I finally answered and, you know, I told him and, and the other guy, you know, you guys were like, there, and then all of a sudden you weren't. [02:00:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I get that. I, I think because I, I do a similar thing. I think it's in our head more often than not. You know, there, there's sometimes there's another reason people aren't calling. But like, we always think that it's the thing that we think it is. [02:00:41] Speaker B: I didn't care what the reason was. [02:00:44] Speaker A: Yeah, sure, I get that too. [02:00:46] Speaker B: My whole thing was, My whole thing was, you have a good friend who just messed up a 20 year marriage, You've heard some of the, the bad. What could this guy be going through? Well, I don't know because I'm not calling him anymore, you know, so it was just more or less that was it for me. It was like, dude, like, you know, and at the time, Bat wasn't having these issues, these medical issues at the time, you know, my other California buddy was doing what he's doing now, and it was just like, how come right when I got divorced, you guys know what's going on? You know, my headspace, we're talking all the time, walking things through. I'm kind of, you know, chewing on things with you, and then all of a sudden, like, you just stop calling and answering my calls. For me, it was just like, ah, I'm good. [02:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I get that. [02:02:02] Speaker B: But then again, they called after everything had smoothed over and I'm, you know, kind of got somewhat of a, a life back and it was just like, like, I'm, I'm not going to stay mad at these guys. You know, I'LL tell you what I'm. What my thoughts are, and then we can move forward. Sure. Yeah. So. Yeah. And that was pseudonyms. [02:02:25] Speaker C: I don't think we ever announced the show, so that's officially our longest. [02:02:29] Speaker B: I think you did. I know. I think you did. Yeah, I think you did very early on. [02:02:33] Speaker A: Okay, good. Perfect. [02:02:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [02:02:38] Speaker A: I think we can put a bow on that. [02:02:41] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? Speaking of bows. And how's your wife doing? [02:02:48] Speaker A: Can't meet her. [02:02:48] Speaker B: Can't wait to meet her. [02:02:49] Speaker C: You can't. I'm not just gonna end my marriage like that. [02:02:57] Speaker B: I thought we had a plan. [02:02:59] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, that's right. We had a whole thing worked out. [02:03:01] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. This cheating. [02:03:04] Speaker B: Oh, wait, dude. No, you're. You're good. I forgot she don't like to be touched. [02:03:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, there's. We should. We should talk off Mike about that sometime. [02:03:20] Speaker B: We should talk off Mike about that sometime. I think. [02:03:31] Speaker A: Huh. [02:03:31] Speaker B: It might be the episode that puts us over. [02:03:33] Speaker C: It might be. [02:03:34] Speaker A: It might be worth the clicks. Let's. Let's just say I am not someone who is easily hurt. But she got me. Like, she. She did a good job. Oh, and that's. [02:03:56] Speaker C: And that's pseudonyms, everybody. We'll talk to you next week. [02:04:03] Speaker B: I'm so curious. Did she say something about you? Is that why. [02:04:06] Speaker A: Sort of. [02:04:10] Speaker B: Oh, I'm not. I'll stop. Really?

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