046: ReFundMe

Episode 46 April 09, 2026 01:46:07
046: ReFundMe
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046: ReFundMe

Apr 09 2026 | 01:46:07

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Freud and Carl talk about feeding the mind

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Life's good. My. All my friends are dying except you and I employed soon. Passed away this morning. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Really? Yeah. [00:00:16] Speaker A: And you know, pretty much the same. But yeah, I didn't intend to talk about that. I was just sort of joking about life. [00:00:29] Speaker B: That's crazy, though. Which, I mean, I know he was really sick, but. Yeah. I don't know, you always think like, I. Like, that's gonna last forever. He's really good. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it just doesn't even. Even when they get really sick, it still doesn't feel like, you know, you're gonna get that text. But I saw him a couple weeks ago and he looked like a skeleton and he could not breathe. And when you can't get enough oxygen, you're just exhausted and he was like falling asleep in the middle of sentences and stuff. So, you know, that's. That was just. How long do you want that to go on, you know? [00:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow. Sorry to hear that, man. [00:01:14] Speaker A: Thanks, man. I know you know him too, so, you know, it's everyone's loss. [00:01:23] Speaker B: That's harsh. How's his. He had like, what, three kids? [00:01:28] Speaker A: Yeah, three. [00:01:30] Speaker B: How's his wife? [00:01:33] Speaker A: She seemed. She seemed good when I saw her last, like, considering, you know, she's, she's. She was strong and taking care of him and. And they have a special needs daughter as well, so she's just got a lot, A lot going on. But she's a great lady. Strong lady. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, yeah, they'll be in my prayers. Sorry to hear that. That, that's, that's truly. It's a sad story. Way to fucking be a bummer at the beginning of our comeback show. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I literally, I literally was like, I'm not even going to bring it up. Like, let's just do the podcast and just like think about other stuff. And then you, you were like, how's life? And I'm like, well, you know what? Life sucks. [00:02:28] Speaker B: Wow. Life's good, man. It sucks. It's a. That's a shitty situation, but life is good. Yeah. [00:02:38] Speaker A: What's. What's going on with you? [00:02:42] Speaker B: Oh, with me? What is going on with me, man? Kind of venturing out of my new. Or with my job. I didn't get. Okay. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I wanna, I wanna hear about the, the second job. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Didn't really like spent one day doing it. I don't know. I made probably about 20 calls in the time frame I was there and used different tactics on, on some of them. Just didn't. Didn't get any hits. But also at the same time, I called my, my My. The boss, the owner of my company was like, hey, want to address how I've been the last week? Like, I know I've been different. A couple people. A couple people have asked. He was like, yeah, I was gonna give you a call tomorrow if you didn't. If he didn't, you know, if we didn't talk now. I was like, well, I want you to know, like, yeah, I went and picked up another job, but, like, my first concern is here. You know, it's my first priority. I said I was a little bummed out and so on. And he goes, yeah, I could tell. And I was like, but it is what it is. Like, don't think I'm going anywhere. It's just. It's just that coupled with a bunch of other things, and I kind of just like, I don't have a plan of action. I can't let. I can't be dictated by my emotions. You know what I'm saying? And so that happened. So then, like, fast forward a bit. He was like, hey, like, I want you in that meeting. He was like, I want you to be business development. Try and get more school work. I'm like, all right, cool, whatever. But still, without the income. It was kind of like, whatever, dude. So I've been focusing on that and took over our LinkedIn and honestly killing it. And. And so he. He sits me down the other day, and he's like, hey, so, like, tell me how. How you progress. Where you at? I'll show. I'm like, all right. So I fill him in, and I said, now here's something that's. That's on my heart. I said, I just need to know, like, what your thoughts of it. I said, I've always. And I think I brought this up before, is that I've always wanted to do, like, a. Have. Have a side of us that works. That does free work for, like, widows, old people, or, like, single moms. And I said, you know, everybody would have to be vetted. I said, I've already talked to the city of. Or the county of Maricopa, and they have a similar program, and they're willing to share their vetting process with me. I said, everything has to be. Everyone has to be a reference like it. You know, And I said, this is a great way to kind of promote to our clients that we are more than just in it for the money. I said, because I'm going to ask my clients if they can refer anybody for our new program that we're rolling out, you know, like, our New give back to the community. I said, so that's my, like, the route I want to take with it. And he was like. He goes, who leave that? You gonna leave this up? I said, I can. He goes, all right, it's all yours. Like, go for it. And I'm like, hold up. I'm like, is your heart behind this? Is this your heart, too? I said. And he's like, well, yeah, I like, you know, I like helping people. And I was like, well, no, no, no. Like, is this what you want to do? And is this your heart? Because, like, I don't want you just throwing me a fucking bone. Like, oh, you want to run with it, you know? Like. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, if this is for real, cool. Like, we can run with this. But if this is just something where you're just trying to, you know, make the guy who had. Who had a shitty review feel better about himself, I'm like, that's not what I'm in for. And he was like, no, no, no. He's like, I want to do this. I want to do this program. I was like, all right, cool. So that was cool. But, I mean, I'll say that that's it. [00:06:45] Speaker A: Okay. What about trim? [00:06:49] Speaker B: I'm going to be getting back into it. Okay. I took a break hoping for some. Like, I. I kind of picture it like this. Like, you went on vacation from work for a week and literally did nothing. There was no itineraries. Like, if you wanted to go skydiving, you went skydiving, but if you wanted to sleep all day at the hotel, whatever. And then, like, that week's up and you got to go back to work, and you're like, I don't want to be here. Like, things were nicer when I was just sitting on the beach. That's kind of how I feel with certain. Certain things, you know? Like, we took a break from the podcast. It was hard to get back in the rhythm of, like, 9 o' clock Saturdays, I'm doing this. I stopped writing, and I'm like, dude. Like, it's almost like there was so much with the writing because I had so many different drafts and so many different things I wanted to take from different drafts and kind of incorporate. And you have all that locked in when you're in it. But then you step back and you're like, well, fuck, dude. Like, I got to get in that rhythm. Yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker A: Well, also your brain. [00:07:57] Speaker B: What I wanted to add on it [00:07:58] Speaker A: 24 7, like, because you were just so into it when you were Doing it, you know, and like, once. [00:08:05] Speaker B: To a degree, it still is. Yeah, to a degree, it still is. But that's, that's the hard part is like, okay, do I want to. Some things I, I, I took out of, of chapter one from different drafts that are not in this draft, and I'm like. And you don't know what's missing until, like, you like, okay, like, what, what else was. And then you're like, oh, crap. Like, I left out the whole reading part, you know, like, reading. Which has changed my, like my daily. Like, I love reading fiction right now, which I wasn't before, you know, So I took that part out and I'm like, well, shit. To put that part in, I now have to go through and adjust the 200 and some odd citations that are in my thing. You know what I mean? Like, I now have to go through, like, let's say, falls in between 56 and 57. And I got five citations for reading fiction and what it does to the brain. Now I got to go through all this Freud and, and readjust at the end. 57 moves now to 62, and then so on 58 to 63. You know what I mean? Like, what the. I'm not excited about it. [00:09:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's. That's kind of where I'm at with my writing project is. I probably told you already, but I gave the first draft to a buddy of mine, and he gave me his feedback, and it was really good. But he had, like, some major structural changes that I think will really improve the story for the better. But I gave him that draft in October and I haven't touched it since, because to implement that stuff, it's going to be a. I mean, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. It's literally involves taking a nine monon timeline and condensing it down into six weeks and cutting out probably 40,000 words, you know, and it's like, h. How, how would I even start? You know, it's just. It's too much, you know? [00:10:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Huh. I mean, that was the good thing. I think maybe that nobody really read through it and responded. [00:10:15] Speaker A: I did have a draft going for you. [00:10:19] Speaker B: Did you? I'm totally cool with it. [00:10:21] Speaker A: Yep. [00:10:22] Speaker B: I'd love to see it. [00:10:24] Speaker A: It's only. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Move on to chapter two. Oh, before I move on to chapter two, I really want chapter one to be locked in. [00:10:36] Speaker A: Well, you might want to give, you might want to give the chapter space to breathe if things evolve. [00:10:45] Speaker B: What do you mean by that? [00:10:46] Speaker A: Like, if, if you come up with something great for chapter one later. You don't want to have to, like, readjust the other ch. Like you don't want to consider anything locked in until it's done, you know? [00:11:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I get it. [00:11:03] Speaker A: Yeah. But that's cool. Let's see. So. So catch me up. You're not doing the second job anymore? [00:11:18] Speaker B: No, I mean, it's something I can do. I do promote it when I go to, like, networking events. I'm like, hey, you know, we do this. Oh, by the way, if you ever need a good mobile tire guy, like, our company just picked up a good one, you know. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Cool. [00:11:36] Speaker B: So. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I mean, that was probably a lot to throw on your plate at the time. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Yes and no. Because it's something I think works well because I could get a lot of callback as far as construction goes, because I can honestly say, hey, we use this guy, you know. But again, yeah, it's not everybody's calling back, you know, back in. Nobody is. [00:12:11] Speaker A: I. I can't imagine cold calling. That's got to be so hard. [00:12:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it's hard because not a lot of people even want. Like, everybody's so busy. It's like, who. Who is this from? Where do you. What do you want? I'm just like, fuck, dude. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I can, I can almost wrap my head around like selling cars more because even though, like, the rate of actually closing a sale has got to be probably the lowest of any sales job you would do, at least they're coming to you. So, like, they're coming to meet you. They want info from you, you know, like. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah, there's an interest there. Yeah. [00:12:53] Speaker A: You know, like as a buying position in a lot of way. Even though they've, I mean, I think literally have the lowest sales rate based on like, the number of people they talk to. Just because so many people go to test drive cars and don't buy anything. But like, you know, I. It's just so much more comfortable for me for people to come to me and for me to have information for them, you know, Like, I take calls all day from people who need me, you know? [00:13:23] Speaker B: Mm. How are you liking that? How you liking the new position? You did say something about, you did say something about like unemployed soon or something like that. [00:13:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:35] Speaker B: What do you mean? [00:13:36] Speaker A: So, so my, my position's temporary and they opened up the permanent full time position and I, I applied to it along with 104 other people and I didn't even get an interview. So it's a hiring Committee, which is the tough thing because it's people completely unconnected to it making all the choices. And like my whole team really wanted me because I'm already doing it. They don't have to train me. They already like me. All that. And then the hiring committee basically just narrowed it down to like 20 other people. So it was just like, hey, sorry. Yeah, so. And then I thought I was gonna have the position till the end of the semester because that's what I applied for. And then they told me, like, no, you'll be done like the week before the new person starts, so probably in the next like week or two. So that, that cut my time to look for a job down by quite a bit. But at the same time, dude, it's kind of a blessing in disguise. I don't know where the blessing is going to be yet, but I didn't really want that. [00:14:51] Speaker B: I really didn't like getting up at [00:14:52] Speaker A: 9:00am Well, I mean there was that. I, I loved my 10, 30 days. Twice a week I went in at 10:30 and that was great. But you know, it just, it solidified for me, like why I don't want a government job. Basically because it's like, like, dude, I mean if, if I was at a private company and I had my temporary job, they would have just handed me the job because my whole team liked me. They didn't want someone new, they didn't want to train someone I'm already doing, you know, so like in a private company they would have just handed me the job. That would have been it. I already proved myself, you know, but like, because it's a government job and you have to give everyone a fair shot and you have to do a whole new round of interviews and, and all the, like, it just, There you go. Like the guy who earned the job and has already been doing it lost out to who and, and by the way, my co worker probably shouldn't have told me this, but he said, I don't think any of these people are going to do as good a job as you based on what I'm seeing. And like, I think if you had gotten an interview, you prob have beat all of them based because he's already interviewed me, he knows how I interview. So it's just like what the dude, like, like what? Only a government job could have had that level of inefficiency and just horseshit, you know? [00:16:24] Speaker B: Hey, have you ever thought about getting emails with your co workers telling you this stuff and then going straight to the person who's Kind of like the ringleader. Maybe not by title, but by, like, presence and being like, hey, I just thought you should know it is not only more beneficial for you guys financially to keep me. And when presented that way, as far as, like, the training hours, the loss of production during those training times from not only the trainee, but the trainer, and the fact that it would be an easy transition for the team, and then that's when you would support it with, like, here's what they've written about me. [00:17:09] Speaker A: No, I didn't consider that because they were not allowed to be telling me anything about the process. So how it was supposed to work with the hiring committee was that they. Who were they? Like, two of my co workers are also on the committee, but they were not the ones narrowing down resumes. They were not allowed to tell me anything. And they were supposed. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Well, no, I'm saying from you. To say, like, hey, would you guys write me reference, like, some reference quotes about working with me? They're just talking about their experience working with you. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Well, I also don't know who the committee is. There are people from completely other departments, and you gotta. [00:18:00] Speaker B: You got maybe two weeks left. There ain't nothing wrong with you going to spend those two weeks investigating who that committee is. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. If I. I don't know, I wouldn't even know where to start. [00:18:13] Speaker B: Freud. I'm. I'm so sorry to hear that. [00:18:17] Speaker A: I appreciate that. So you're gonna have to be Carl, right? [00:18:24] Speaker B: Hold on. Why Carl? [00:18:27] Speaker A: Carl Jung. Psychologist or what was he. Whatever Freud was, He, like, studied under Freud. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Oh, got it. Yeah, we're. We're. You're still raspberry. I hear nothing of that until, like, psychology. Oh, you said. Well, and then it was psychology. And then the Freud thing. Yeah. So welcome to Pseudonyms, guys. Getting caught up on the last couple weeks of our lives. All right, sorry. So I'm. I'm Carl, your Freud, and this is Pseudonyms. We're experiencing some issues. This is a good thing about our gig, guys. You know, we can literally set up camp and do a podcast from anywhere, you know, and sometimes it's a blessing, and other times, like tonight, it's. It's a curse. But tonight we're talking about kind of what you feed your mind, if you will. What I thought. I try and think of it because somebody asked, like, what does that mean? Like, what you subject your mind to? Basically, you know, what are you feeding it? And I was looking into this because it's a part of the chapter, but it's the discipline of thought capture. And, you know, I know some people out there. Number one, doesn't really care for some of the biblical conversations we have. And I'm sure she's not alone in this. But we do see biblically the importance of not taking every, that every thought captive, kind of not giving our mind over to certain things and so forth. So this, this does have a biblical background. But I also think scientifically, again, as, as we've seen with the Bible before, it's being proven, like, this is, this is true. And so I kind of looked at this just because a lot of music was coming up with, with, with people in my, my circles and, you know, like, just what music we're subjecting ourselves to. And then it, for me, it had to go even further because there are certain things I won't read because I just don't think they're beneficial. You know, I'm not talking about fiction. I'm talking about just like some of the stuff that really, because you can look at fictional. Like the book I'm reading right now doesn't necessarily grow me in the sense that I like to read books to grow. You know, I like to read books that give me some tactics on life or with people. And this book is more or less just a story of a man. However, I would not be reading like the Saw series or, you know, some shit like that. I just, I feel like that doesn't do. Doesn't grow me in the area I'm looking to be grown in. It grows me, just not in the area I think, I think needs to be grown in. And then the shittiest part about this, as I was doing my research, crude comedy, which is like my favorite, you know, it says it's normalizing harmful attitudes and masking prejudice. And that's what the studies have, have come to find. That's not, you know, but I see it, I get it. I just don't like the fact that. Right. [00:22:24] Speaker A: Masking prejudice. [00:22:29] Speaker B: Let me, let me, let me share you. You. [00:22:32] Speaker A: I'd have to think of your side [00:22:34] Speaker B: while you're doing your side. No, I'm sorry. But I'm going to look up the studies that I, that I found that support that. So you do your thing. Okay. [00:22:43] Speaker A: And I'm gonna look while you're doing that. Find out who paid for that study. [00:22:48] Speaker B: It wasn't Will Ferrell. I want to know that. [00:22:55] Speaker A: Yes, I mean, I, I consume, you know, a fair bit of that. Less so with stand up lately and more with just podcasts like stand up Comedians, podcasts. And. And. And ultimately, I. I take breaks from them because I do find myself just, like, mentally, like, yeah, I just can't listen to any more sarcasm or any more, like, you know, joking about. Even though it's. I don't think any of these people are actually racist. It's just, like, jokes about racism. It just. But, you know, I take a short break from it and I enjoy it. So I go back. But the idea that it's masking prejudice and what was the other thing? [00:23:49] Speaker B: Normalizing harmful attitudes. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Okay, so, like, break that down for me. [00:24:02] Speaker B: So normal. Normalizing harmful attitudes. Jesel Nick, I think, is a perfect example where he talks about, you know, he'll joke about certain, like, shootings or victims. Yeah. And be like, that sucks. You know, but he doesn't just say, like, that sucks. He's like, you know, it's. You know, I feel bad for the baby. You know what I'm saying? And he has some jokes where, like, they've rubbed me wrong when I'm going to church consistently. But, like, outside of church, I'm like, I get that. I see the humor in it. You know what I mean? Like, there's a difference between, like, the laughing and then, like, the part where you're like, like, okay, normalizing harmful attitudes. I wanted to make a joke about and. And daughter. And I was like, no, that's not cool. Like, it's. [00:25:09] Speaker A: But no, it's cool. [00:25:13] Speaker B: No, I mean, but it's. But it. It's. It's. It's normalizing harmful attitudes. Like, I'm not taking your feelings into consideration. [00:25:24] Speaker A: No, if you were taking my feelings into consideration, you joke about it. I made a joke tonight. My. We were at the dinner table. It's rare for my parents that my wife and my daughter and I to all have dinner, but we were having dinner, and my mom, in her wisdom, decided to bring up. And she was saying that she. She read the GoFundMe update yesterday, and she was just saying, like, it didn't sound like he was doing good. And she said, I gave $300 to his GoFundMe. And she. That's all she said. She just said that. Okay. So after, like, a brief. A brief silence, I was like, so you want it back? [00:26:11] Speaker B: Dude, I'm not gonna lie. [00:26:12] Speaker A: Kind of want a refund. [00:26:13] Speaker B: We lived. When we lived in Foothill Ranch, there was a couple, and the guy was having a yard sale every weekend. And he was my neighbor, and he was like, yeah. So he expressed. He was like, yeah, like, you know, my My wife has Lyme disease. There's no cure for it. She got bit by a tick and she's got Lyme disease. Like. Like now we have to constantly pay every month just for her medications. And people were coming over, praying over them, all this other stuff. And like, so I'm like, dude, I take my whole chest of Michael Jordan collect of collectibles cards, every card I owned, jerseys, coins, figures, like everything. And I'm like, here, sell this for whatever you could get it for. The following week, she was cured. Miraculously, doesn't have it no more. That haunts me to this day, bro. Haunts me to this day that I never went and asked for it back, bro. I don't. I love watching people open like those packs of cards on Tik Tok and they're like, oh my gosh, we got this one. We got this one. When they do like the old school Jordan ones, I can't even watch. I can't even watch. I don't want to know what they're worth. I just assume they're all worth a dollar. I don't want to know what they're worth. But I literally had a binder of about 300 plus cards. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Oh my gosh, dude. Well, you. Well, first of all, that might have been what cured her. They might have sold that for $3 million. But you didn't do anything wrong. He did something wrong by not voluntarily giving it back to you. [00:27:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I never. I never look at that. All right, so here's the study. Here's what this study was. Ford and Ferguson's 2004 prejudiced norm theory proposes that disparagement humor. Humor that belittles or did. Degenerate. Degenerate. De. I'm sorry, Denigrates. Humor that belittles or denigrates a social group functions as a relief of prejudice rather than an initiator. It creates a social context where prejudiced individuals feel permitted to express their attitudes without fear of social repercussions. The key components of the theory include creation of a president, a prejudiced norm. Disparagement humor establishes a local immediate norm of tolerance for discrimination against the targeted group. The role of non serious tone. Because disparagement humor is delivered in a non serious manner, it provides a safe avenue for people to express their true prejudices without social cost of serious prejudiced remarks targeted individuals. The theory suggests that for people high in prejudice, the humor acts as a form of self regulation, enabling them to express their existing prejudices in a socially permissive way in an expansion of acceptable behavior. Sexist or racist jokes expand the bounds of permissible conduct to include expressions of hostility that would otherwise be considered inappropriate and the effect on tolerance. Exposure to this type of humor increases the tolerance of individuals with high prejudice for subsequent discriminatory. Discriminatory acts against the targeted group. The theory provides a framework for understanding how seemingly minor disparagement jokes can create a broad climate for social ine inequality. [00:29:53] Speaker A: So I. I know the point of this podcast is not to argue about this. So I, you know. [00:30:01] Speaker B: All right, so I don't want to just, you know. No, I wanted. I want to talk about this because I. I feel like there is. [00:30:08] Speaker A: Well, here. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Go for it. [00:30:13] Speaker A: So someone. I saw a po. And you know that this is ubiquitous. This is everywhere. Like, Shane Gillis is a really popular comic now, and you'll see a lot of people make this critique of him. But I saw one in particular that was like, yeah, isn't it so funny how just we're normalizing racism through this guy's comedy? And like, isn't that so great how we're, you know, it just. It was just a really douchey comment that really, you know, stuck with me. I remembered it and I just got to thinking about it, and I was like, there's no normalizing anything through humor because the whole joke is that it's wrong. Right? Like, if. If. If we were actually a racist society, like actually a racist country, white supremacy is cool. No one gives a shit. You know, you're not getting fired for making racist jokes. We're not electing a black guy. And no one's laughing at what Shane Gillis is doing, because Shane Gillis isn't racist enough. Like, the. The whole joke is that what I'm saying is kind of wrong. [00:31:22] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:23] Speaker A: You know, so, like, if you ever get to the point where that's normalized or that's okay, it ceases to be funny. Because if you really were racist, then, like, oh, he's just saying what we think. It's a. It's a rally. It's not. [00:31:38] Speaker B: And I totally. I totally. I totally agree with what you're saying, for sure. And I think someone made that joke that it. That this would be a rally or something. But I totally agree with what you're saying. I'm saying in general, though, like, I'm not talking about just racist jokes. This. This is. I'm talking about more of, like, taking a serious situation where there was a loss of life and then making a joke about that situation. Almost. It almost to me, is Is. Is such a disrespect that it's like. And that's why I didn't make the joke. One, he's a really good friend of yours. Two, never. T. Well, I guess we got to bleep out for now. He's. He's a good guy. Like, he's never been one to like. Like, if he's done something against you, it was out of a conviction that he had. You know what I mean? Like, if you stop talking for a minute, you probably said something that didn't sit right with his spirit. It was never like, just over some. Some like, petty crap, you know, it was something of like, oh, you're not making me grow, or you're not beneficial for me. But I don't think he went and looked for that either. You know, it was just something like, if not talking to you, he has a good reason. He's not just one of those petty little. So, yeah, now to. To hear of his loss and then make a joke about it, you know, like, I just could have been done for sure. It just. I don't know, man. It just artfully, [00:33:21] Speaker A: Really dying to know what you wanted to say. But let me. Let me run this by you. This is another thing that. That kind of stuck with me because I've. I've played the clip for a lot of people. So you know who Ms. Rachel is? That like kid music. It's like a kids show on YouTube. My daughter liked it for a little [00:33:42] Speaker B: while, but I don't. [00:33:43] Speaker A: She. Yeah, so she's Pretty Big on YouTube and her name's Ms. Rachel and she tweeted basically just expressing her sorrow for the kids on both sides of the Israel, Gaza thing. And the right blew her up and was like, I can't believe this Hamas apologist and all this crazy stuff. So she. She got it. You know, she was kind of getting some heat for those comments. So Tim Dillon is talking about her on his podcast and he. What he does perfectly is he just takes the. The angle that you know is wrong and just sort of really beats it to death. So for about seven minutes, he's talking about Ms. Rachel, who is now a member of Hamas, and she just doesn't get. And he just goes on for, like, minutes about, like, she just needs to read a book. Like, she doesn't understand why this little girl's legs needed to be off her body. But let me tell you something. This goes back a long way into, like. And what he's masterfully doing is if you are on the side that's criticizing Ms. Rachel for what she said. He's making you feel like an idiot because he's taking your position kind of, [00:34:57] Speaker B: but to the extreme. Yeah, it. [00:35:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And. Exactly. And he's like the first. When. When kids start dying, I don't. I don't immediately rush to judgment. I go, hmm. I open a book. I open a book, and it might be chapter 11 that finally tells me why this kid needed to die. But. [00:35:21] Speaker B: So I think. [00:35:22] Speaker A: So it's like. So that's not making. I don't think that's making light of the death at all. I think that's making the opposite side feel. [00:35:29] Speaker B: Feel absurd for sure. But I mean, I wasn't saying that. You know, like, it's two. It's two different situations. There's innocent people dying. He died from a disease and was a good guy. You know what I mean? It wasn't like he was an innocent bystander. I got. But what I'm. What I'm getting at, honestly, is it's more of, like, not necessarily trying to make someone feel absurd or it's the jeselnik type of approach where you're like, you remember when everybody posted on the day that. What was that. What was that theater that got shot up in Colorado? Remember the theater that got shot? Aurora. Aurora. Yeah. How can I forget? Don't forget me, Aurora. But he goes. Everybody went on, like, their social media. Yeah, he's like, everybody goes on social media and they're like, oh, my heart goes out to the. The family and people of Aurora. And he's like, what you're really saying is, like, I know something happened, but don't forget about me. Poor little on me. But we're praying for you, Aurora. You know what I mean? [00:36:40] Speaker A: Again, that's a. That's a great angle. I thought you were going to talk about his other tweet, like, the tweet that he sent that night. Do you. Do you know that? [00:36:48] Speaker B: No, I think he says it. But what is it? [00:36:51] Speaker A: He just. He tweeted. Other than that, how was the movie? [00:36:59] Speaker B: See, like that, bro. That's the shit I'm talking about. My example was horrible because [00:37:08] Speaker A: I don't even know, like, but in both of these cases, like, I don't think he's making light of the death. Like, he's obviously making fun of celebrities who are trying to get points, like virtue signaling about it. And then he's also just making, like, a ridiculous statement like, no one stayed to watch the movie, obviously. You know what I mean? Just. I don't know. So, yeah, I do get it because it, it does. Like, I don't know, it, it can make me more crass the more I, I consume of it. But then, like, I really step back and like, look at what the humor does. And I'm not, like, I'm increasingly more in favor of dark humor. [00:38:03] Speaker B: I definitely am. But let's, let's not just, it's not just humor. Let's look at literature. So first of all, let's talk about what, what, what, what we're talking about in the sense of like, feeding the mind. And so basically what we're, what, what I look at is like thought capture, you know, and the fact that it's, it's, it's like a discipline, you know what I mean? To like, be like, hey, I'm not going to allow that. I mean, a good example of this is you subject yourself to pornography. You tend to sit, you tend to objectify a lot of women. And I know this just from experience of like when I'm like, oh, okay, you know, like I'm in, in a drought and I'm like, you know, I'm gonna just watch porn. I get like this spurt of watching porn. What I've realized it's done in the past is now when I see every girl on the street, I'm like, I'm, I'm objectifying her to what I just watched. You know what I mean? Like, it's almost like, ooh, like I want to do. You know, then it. Because she becomes an object more than anything else. So I think we all have that inner dialogue and, you know, go. When it goes unchecked is kind of when we're ruled by, by those thoughts. And the fact is, is when we don't check them and we think they stay neutral, they're not really neutral because they're kind of operating in the background. You're just not maybe acting on them. And so like literature, if you consume dystopian literature exploring hopelessness or systematic cruelty, you tend to. And the people have shown to have more fear, anxiety, and a sense of impedance, impending doom. So studies show that a lot of people that read that stuff have more fear and anxiety. It's almost like the mom that watches all those true crime documentaries. And like, you know, there's nothing wrong with being protective over your children, but now your child can't do because they're going to come up missing or they're going to get kidnapped. And I find myself doing that. I'll find myself like, leaving the house knowing that like everyone's up in the house but they're all female. And I find myself leaving and I'll walk away from the door and not lock it because everybody's up and I'm like, no, with, with it would, I wouldn't live with myself if I, if that one in a million percent chance happened where some guy was walking the neighborhood and tried my door and killed my kids because I just didn't want to take the time to turn a lock. Although it'll probably never happen, I think that every time I walk away from the door and leave it unlocked, I'm like, ah, go back and lock it. Music. I remember listening to certain music, stuff like Brother Lynch Hung or some of the non popular, popular amongst people who follow Bone Thugs and Harmony, but not necessarily popular in the sense that it didn't make the radio, but like listening to some of their songs where they're talking about playing with the Ouija board. In those times, like, yeah, I definitely had a mindset that I wanted to like, you know, my sister pissed me off. I was letting her know that I was gonna kill her. And mind you, I was freaking like 15 or 16. But you know, there was a time where I was cutting myself and you know, digging tatt like words into my hand, you know, with, with a blade just because I had so much anger. And all I listened to was those, you know, Ouija songs to, to like, yeah, I wanted to hurt some people. And so I think definitely, and honestly, there are times where like, I'll listen to certain rap songs, I'm driving down the street and if I got Nipsey Hussle on, you want to look over at me and like, think you're, you know, I mean, like, I get that attitude of like, yeah, you know, like I get a certain type of demeanor where it's like, fuck you looking at, dude? That's right. Mind your business. You know, And I don't get that way when I listen to like lrae. I get that way when I listen to like Ice Cube or, you know what I mean? Or one of those guys where I'm just like, that's right. Didn't even have to use my ak. Got to say it was a good day. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I, I, I agree a lot more with the literature and music aspect because I see those as more inherently negative things, you know, like everyone just assumes that there's an apocalypse coming, whether it's AI or zombies or something. And I, and I think it's because of all the media that We've consumed. Walking Dead was a huge show for years. You know, like, it was the number one TV show. It was all about the world ending. And there was not a lot of hope within that show. You know, it's like every. Literally, you knew a character was gonna die because they started to be hopeful about the future, they would die in that episode. You know, that's how it always went. And. And I do see that much more negative because I see humor is like an inherently good thing, and then we can kind of debate about the subject of the humor, but, like a story just about the world ending and there's hopelessness and there's no God and no hope and no nut. I mean, like, yeah, what's that doing for you? You know? And music wise, you know, I've. I've been listening. I've been on a Nine Inch Nails kick. I. I've loved Nine Inch Nails since I was, like, 13. You know, they were. They were my favorite band for a long time. And I've been re. Listening to a lot of the music and. And then, you know, kind of started to realize, like, yeah, it's like, really dark, you know, Like, I don't mind when he talks about his faith and stuff, because I do hear, like, someone who really wants to believe in God, you know, and that. That doesn't upset me the way that, like, some music would be about. About that subject, you know, because it's not like. Or anything like tools. I saw. I saw a clip. Yeah, like, that's too, like, Judith, that one song. Like, that's too much. I. I'm not gonna listen to a guy say, fuck God. Like, it's just. It's not. I'm not doing that. But I saw a clip of him on Instagram and he, like, goes up to the mic. It's at a big stadium show, and everyone's cheering for him, and he's like, you ready to have a good time tonight? And everyone's like, yeah, yeah. And he's like, all right, well, not with us. That was the last band. You're not here. We're having a bad time tonight. Why are you being a dick? Like, come on, dude. Like, it's just. But like, on a darker. On a darker side, my social media. Dude, I'm sure you're going to talk about social media. My. My social media is just news. It's just like Reuters and Al Jazeera and all these news outlets, and I'm just watching kids die all day in the Middle east on. On my social media. Feed. And then I. I didn't realize until this very conversation, but I have been like, I've. I've been consumed with thoughts about my daughter dying. And I've just been thinking about it all the time and didn't really put together why. And it's probably because of all the news I'm seeing, you know, I'm watching. [00:46:01] Speaker B: That's a doom scrolling effect. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Kids die in them, you know. Yeah, yeah, like the actual. The actual meaning of that term because, yeah, we've kind of re appropriated doom scrolling to just being on your phone. But like, it's. It's more about like, what content you're consuming on your phone. And. Yeah, and it's like there's nothing I can do about it. So I just need to take a break from the news and negative music and anything that might be Freud. [00:46:34] Speaker B: I'm telling you, it does. [00:46:35] Speaker A: It does affect you. [00:46:37] Speaker B: It definitely does. Like, I have to be intentional with, and I try and be with what I'm listening to, you know, what I'm subjecting myself to. And the number one area I have the easiest control over is music. You know, short and simple. You could change it. Change your whole, whole mood. I say that because TV is not as easy, you know, like, you might be into a good movie, and then all of a sudden you're like, ooh, just took a left not to where I wanted it to go. And, you know, but I'm kind of. I'm kind of committed to this movie, you know, and sometimes somebody else has something on. But as far as music and literature, those things I can dictate, especially literature. And so I try not to. Like, I won't read books about homosexuals, you know, Like, I. I saw this book and it was. It was some cool name, like fucking the son of the 300 or something like that. And you're like, ooh, this is gonna be good, you know? And then it's talking about the fucking. Like. And this was one of the only books I read the re. Like the back cover on, you know, should have read them on that little cunt that I was talking about last time, but I didn't. And you know, she still pisses me off, dude, like, to this day. Like that whole pedaling falsehoods. Ah, I forget, man. [00:48:16] Speaker A: I was just gonna say. I was just gonna say the episode was almost called that. [00:48:21] Speaker B: Author. Yeah, it was. There it is. Gabrielle Zein. Yeah, Petals. Petals more than falsehoods. But anyhow, I read the back cover of this one. It was like he saw the Glistening, you know, like the, the Caesar pulls up and this young man, this, this, this young man, he sees from a distance like this, glistening. And it's the sun coming off of the helmet. And as he. As. And they're using names that, like, you, you won't know. It's like Pat or Sam, where you're like, well, that could be a girl name or a guy name, you know, Patrick or Patricia, Samuel or Samantha, you know, but it was like an old school name. And it starts to go in to describe the skin and the hair, the long, flowing hair and the, the, the. The olive skin. And I'm just like, okay, who's this chick? And then it's like, it's homeboy's son. It's like the Emperor's son. And like this peasant boy is like, if like not peasant boy, but like a helper is now, like, in love with this guy. And it's a love story about these two. And I was like, yeah, I can't do that. Like, I'm not like, no, can't do. It has to be fiction up my alley, you know? [00:49:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:46] Speaker B: And I'm not talking about up my alley in that way. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, there's enough, there's enough, you know, problems with what we consume. You don't have to also be hard, you know, you got, you got enough problems. [00:50:08] Speaker B: You know what I mean? What am I supposed to do when I, When I'm, when I get a little time to read at work? You know, just sitting there with an erection. I'm, you know, sitting around all these guys working hard, probably sweating, [00:50:24] Speaker A: thinking about the Emperor's son. [00:50:28] Speaker B: So basically it's like garbage in, garbage out, the. [00:50:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:34] Speaker B: What was the time? Are you gonna share something intimate about a male that you, too. Go for it. Let me hear it. [00:50:42] Speaker A: No, it's about a male. It's about a male, but it doesn't involve me. I was driving Lyft in Oklahoma City, and I got this guy in my car who was a construction guy, but he was like, traveling. And I guess they would, like, bring a team of guys to a city, do like a three or four week job and then send them somewhere else. And so he was in a hotel room with like, all these guys and. And he was like, telling me about, like, how difficult it is to, like, share a room with a bunch of guys for like, weeks on end. And he goes. And then he throws this out. He goes like, I'm waking up with wet dreams. And I didn't get, I didn't get what he was saying. So I thought, oh, he just happened to have a wet dream, but he's in a room full of other guys. So I make the, like, he's already being inappropriate, so I make a joke and I go, yeah, you're like worried that it means you're gay, right? [00:51:44] Speaker B: And he is. [00:51:46] Speaker A: And he goes, Eddie goes, I'm bisexual. Like, I don't give a. And then so like he, he already told me he was married with a couple kids. But then he like starts going on about like his bisexuality and how he like hides it from his wife. And like, she thinks that he, he's like cheating on her. But like, it's not cheating because it's like guys. And he like doesn't know how to explain it to her and stuff. And I'm just like, alright, here's your stop, dude. Wow, what a terrible joke to make. I. I just like, I didn't know this guy. [00:52:29] Speaker B: Wow. [00:52:30] Speaker A: I'm not street smart. That's. That's the, that's the point of that story. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Hey, it happened. Anybody? Dude, I was hit. Check in one night. By the way, our thoughts are formed by what we subject our minds to at the end of the day. But I was hitchhiking once. [00:52:45] Speaker A: Mm. [00:52:46] Speaker B: And me and Crusty got in an argument and we get in an argument on the 57 and Katella. So I'm like, I pull over the van, I get out, she drives on with the foster kids and the daughters. And I'm like, okay. So I'm at the 57 in Katella. I say, you know what? This, I'm hitchhiking home. So I stand at the on ramp, I put out my thumb, some guy picks me up, he goes, where you going, dude? So I'm going to Irvine. Like Foothill Ranch, Irvine area. He was like, cool, we're going to the Spectrum. I got, I'm pick up my girl. We're gonna see a movie, the Spectrum. I'm like, fuck yeah, this is easy breezy life. You know, I'm gonna get home like real quick. And so he goes, I just gotta pick up my girlfriend over here. So he starts heading like north. So he takes the 55, he takes it down to the 5 or the 405. I think it's the 5. 57 doesn't hit the 405, hits the 5. So he takes the 5 north towards. He's going towards the block of orange. And so he's like, he gets off and he starts heading south towards the block of orange. And I'm like, he's like, my girlfriend lives out here. So I'm like, all right, cool. So he calls her hey, babe, yada, yada, yada. Yeah, I picked up some dude. I just gotta drop them off. Like, you know, he's gonna. I'm just gonna drop him off in Irvine. She's like, well, I don't want to go to Irvine. I want to go to the block of orange. He's like, oh, you sure? Yeah. So he's like, hey, dude, I'm sorry, man. But, like, I'm. We're not gonna go to Irvine. We're gonna go block of Orange instead. He's like, I call you a taxi, though. I'm like, nah, dude, I'm good, bro. Don't worry about me. I'll get out here. So I get out and I'm like, now I'm like, trying to pull. Find a. I found a bus, you know, because this is back in, like, cell phones weren't like, what we have now, where. I just pull up a map on my phone. [00:54:34] Speaker A: This is 2007. [00:54:35] Speaker B: Maybe somewhere around there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I find a bus stop. Look at the. Look at the street routes. Okay. That's my quickest way home. Start heading down. Got my thumb out. This Mexican dude picks me up next. He's like, hey, where you going, my friend? Some. Whatever. He's like, yeah, come on, come on, get in. So I'm driving with him. He's, hey, what happened? Like, you got family? And we're talking. I'm like, yeah, I got family. You know, we got a little argument. I'm walking home. He's like, oh, it's gonna be all right, my friend. And he puts his hand. Pats my thigh with his hand. Then he realizes what a man I am, so he squeezes my thigh. He says, wow, you got really strong legs. That's what he squeezes. You got really strong legs. And I'm like, oh, this must be a cultural thing, because, like, he's really touching my leg. You know, nothing told me inside, like, get out now. You know, everything was pointing to, like, this is cultural one. And if it's not, you're probably gonna get a blowjob out of this. You know, it took you too long to laugh at that. I'm like, he thinks I'm serious. And so I'm like, okay. So I'm honestly thinking it's cultural. He doesn't say anything other than, like, that it's. It doesn't move, doesn't progress. Something like, cultural. So then he's like, well, I gotta let you out here. And he pulls onto a dark street and he goes, I live one block over, I live on the next street over, but I gotta let you out here. So I'm like, okay, that's weird, but okay. He's like, I wish we had more time together. And he gives me the. The limp fish and I, like, shake his hand. I'm like, hey, thanks. And I get like, the dead hand. And I'm like, fucking a, bro. Like, this dude thought we were gonna do something in the dark. Like, I was gonna be like, hey, before I get out and just start, like, undoing my buckle. I got out and just fucking continued to truck home. And then the third guy, who was a tow truck driver, actually I was gonna say finished the ride, but gave me a ride all the way to my house. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Yeah, salt of the earth, tow truck drivers. [00:57:02] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? Not in fear of nothing. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Literally. Even. Even though when you said third guy, I was like, oh, my God, he's gonna get hit on again. And then you said tow truck driver, and I was like, oh, there's no gay tow truck driver. So he's fine. [00:57:21] Speaker B: You imagine that sassy ass tow truck driver comes up, repose your car. Like, dude, what are you doing, girl? This is on the list. Yeah. [00:57:37] Speaker A: Oh, man. Yeah. So all that to say. Yeah, that's. That's kind of another one for me where, like, look, dude, you can't throw a rock without hitting a show or a movie with a gay character in it. I'm just not into it. Like, I don't. I don't need to normalize that to myself. I. I don't, you know. Yeah, this sounds like hate speech. [00:58:04] Speaker B: No, but I mean, I get it. I get it. You know, it's. It's the. It's the story of, like. And I think I've told you this before, like, we went to that birthday party of number two's best friend and she had two dads. [00:58:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:58:23] Speaker B: And, like, we get there and, like, it's a birthday party where the parents were invited to stay and they're making margaritas, you know, those sassy bitches. And there's. Yeah, there's other Christian parents there. And, like, one of them was like, I think this is great, you know, and he's like, you know, I. I don't think it's wrong. You know, you love who you love. I don't think. I don't think it's wrong if you love a man. Like, I don't think it's wrong. I'm like, I do. Like, like, look at the facts of it. Like, it's, it's wrong. Like, you don't get these kids without a female involvement. That's cool. You two are two gay guys, but neither one of you really fully produced these kids. You might have taken part maybe, I don't know, maybe you're straight before. These are kids with your wife. But like, you, you, you didn't, you didn't birth these. You can't have these kids without a female. Now the whole love thing got brought up, and there, therein lies a whole issue on its own, you know, Like, I can't help who I love. Okay, let's go with that. I can't help who I love. That's what your partner says too, right? I can't help who I love. Yes. Cool. Your partner comes home one day and says, hey, remember Johnny down at the office? Well, I've been fucking him, but don't be mad because I can't help who I love. By your own standard, you can't judge your partner. You can't be judgmental. You can't be like, you don't love me. No, no, no. He loves you too, but he can't help who he loves. Therefore, his affair must be justified, as your homosexuality is justified by you can't help who you love. I mean, kind of, it's kind of dumb reasoning. Yeah, I'd rather have them tell me they just like dick in their ass mind. Which brings up a story. So we're having fun the other night, and she's got a drawer full of little vibrators. I'm thinking, you know, she's done the finger in the butthole. You know, some reason older women do the finger in the butt. So I let it slide. She has small fingers, you know, nothing real girthy. Nice small fingers. [01:00:48] Speaker A: You let it slide. [01:00:50] Speaker B: So. [01:00:52] Speaker A: So she's like, hey, your daughter listens to this podcast. Your daughter listens to this podcast, and this is wrong. [01:01:01] Speaker B: She might want to fast forward past this part. And so then she goes, hey, the [01:01:06] Speaker A: 30 second skip, don't do the 15. I'm really gonna make a deal out of this. [01:01:13] Speaker B: So she goes, hey, she pulls out this, this triple headed vibrator. Now, mind you, it's got the dildo shaft. [01:01:22] Speaker A: It's got the funny hydra. She brings out the hydra. [01:01:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Got the bunny ears at the top. [01:01:28] Speaker A: Cerberus. [01:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And then it's got beads coming off the. The bottom of it, you know, and it's It's a branch of beads that start very small. And like, the big ones, maybe. Maybe under half inch, maybe, you know, three, eight. So I'm thinking, like, you know, I'm down to try that. The beads. You know, it's kind of a work your way up type thing, you know, just put the beads in. Okay. While you're down there, you know. Okay, I'll try this. Within a second, I think I lost my soul. Came out of my body. And what I mean by that is. My breath was. Was. It was. I couldn't. I couldn't say anything. Like, I couldn't. It was so abrupt. [01:02:24] Speaker A: You couldn't scream for help, dude. [01:02:28] Speaker B: So fucking abrupt. I was like, what the fuck? No, stop. Stop. Please stop. Please stop, please. I'm crawling backwards up the bed, mind you. She's downstairs, so she's not. She's not up on the house. And I'm crawling up the bed saying, please stop. No, no, no, no, no. And she's just going. So then I'm like, I'm. I'm. I'm. I don't know what to do. Flabbergasted. Flabbergasted. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Mind you, this. What the fuck is going on? I'm sitting here feeling like I got a shit because I got a dick in my ass, right? Get the whole fucking caboodle on my ass. Not the beads, not the bunny ears, the main system. And I'm like, just give me a minute. Like, back up. Just give me a minute. So I. You just gotta. You just gotta pull. You can't slow this thing down. You feel like you're shitting all over yourself. And I'm like, what the fuck took place? And she's like, well, I was just trying to see if you liked it. I'm like. I said, no. I said, please stop. She goes, I just thought you were, like, really turned on by it. So, like, I thought you wanted it more. [01:03:57] Speaker A: What. [01:03:57] Speaker B: What part of no and please stop, man, I want it more. What part of that? She said, maybe we need a safe word. I'm pretty sure no, and please stop is a safe word. [01:04:11] Speaker A: So I was like, please stop. It was so formal. Please stop. [01:04:15] Speaker B: Yeah, and it came out, dude. And it didn't come out like, please stop. It was, please stop, please. No, I don't. Like, I'm. It's hard to catch your breath because you got someone just, like, going to town, and you're like, dude. So I said, okay, my turn, my turn. She has not had anal, so now it's my turn. And similar thing. Ow. No. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Now, buddy. Now, now. Yeah, so I gave her the head, and she is like, same thing. And she's like, oh, my gosh, I hurt so bad. How far was it in? I said maybe about like, that much. Maybe a half inch was in. That's all I could get in. She's like, it hurts so bad. I was like, well, I did spit on my hand, rub it on there. So it should have been lubricated just enough. I still feel like a part of me left that day that I haven't got back. [01:05:26] Speaker A: It was your innocence. [01:05:29] Speaker B: No, Art took my innocence when I was 10 or 11. [01:05:31] Speaker A: Oh, come on. [01:05:33] Speaker B: He did. He did. [01:05:35] Speaker A: Don't normalize. [01:05:45] Speaker B: But no, man. Oh, my gosh, dude. I'd like. I couldn't believe it, dude. Like, seriously, like, I still bring it up. Like, what the fuck does no and please stop mean to you? So when she says no or please stop, I just keep doing whatever she's telling me to know. [01:06:01] Speaker A: So, you guys, that's a story where you and your partner raped each other, but took turns. You took turns raping each other? [01:06:11] Speaker B: Kind of. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah, you know? [01:06:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, she played the whole, like. Well, if you're gonna do it to me. I wanted you to know how it felt first. Made me feel like I wanted to smack you. Yeah. Made me feel I wanted to smack you. [01:06:30] Speaker A: It wasn't even. It wasn't even pleasurable for her. It's not. It's just not equal. [01:06:36] Speaker B: No. At least mine. I'm getting a little, like, tight butthole action with her. She's just fucking making me feel like the fucking wife in this relationship. Nobody wants to be that. You know what I mean? [01:06:53] Speaker A: I will say you. Sometimes I feel like I. I'm a dark soul, a twisted soul. And then I realize I'm nowhere near as adventurous. [01:07:10] Speaker B: You know, I'll try anything twice, so. And, you know, 20 bucks is 20 bucks. But outside of that, how you like my new office, man? [01:07:21] Speaker A: You know I like it. So I was gonna ask where you are. [01:07:27] Speaker B: I'm in the ex husband's old office. Okay. [01:07:32] Speaker A: All right. Yeah, I figured you had to be over there because there's a ch. Chewy box behind you. And I know you don't have any pets, but it's a damn animal sanctuary over there, so. [01:07:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, it really is. I mean, like, on the couch today had, like, you know, the cat on my chest, one by my leg, one next to me. I mean, it's it's, it's cool. It doesn't bother me somewhat if I'm in clothes that I'm not wearing in public. It bothers me more that, like. And they're learning, I guess they're learning my boundaries, you know, like, if I'm sipping coffee, they want to know what's in my cup. And honestly, like a couple smacks to the face, they don't, they don't want to know anymore what's in my cup. So they're learning that the cat now knows, like when I snap my fingers, get the off the counters. That's gross, you know? Yeah, so, yeah, they're learning. So as far as the mind goes, [01:08:36] Speaker A: are you like, okay, What? [01:08:39] Speaker B: No. Talk to me, dude. [01:08:40] Speaker A: No, it was, it was, it was off topic. It was off topic. [01:08:43] Speaker B: It was fine. [01:08:44] Speaker A: I was just gonna ask if you're, if you're using that office regularly or if you're just doing it tonight for the podcast. [01:08:51] Speaker B: So one of my caveats was if we're gonna do this, mind you, we're also postponing the move in six months. So, like, number three still lives with me. I've always told my kids, you can live with me as long as you're a full time student, a part time employee or full time employee and a part time student until you graduate. So number three still lives with me. So I feel obligated to her to an extent. And she's allergic to all the pets here. And, you know, I brought it up to Miami and I'm like, hey, look, like, I can't my daughter to want to move in over there. One, she said she'd feel like a guest because none of this is our stuff. Two, she's allergic to the animals, and I don't want to put her through that. And Miami was just like, well, have her take like a allergy pill every day. And I'm like, I wouldn't live like that. Why the would I expect somebody else to live like that? And so then we kind of like just kept talking about it and then eventually was like, well, what's the shortest, like, leash you can extend? And I said, six months. She's like, are you against doing that? I said, no, I'm not. I've been thinking about it as well. So that's kind of where we're at. But the caveat I had, I said, well, I'm also never going to move into a space that has the ex's stuff there. Like, if his stuff is still in that office. Like, I'm not moving to him. Like, I'm not going to do that. You know, like, you could either address it, or I could just not move in, you know, so she's actually spent the last couple weekends that were not together packing up everything in here, and she's gonna rent a pod and load it up and send it to wherever he's at. [01:10:36] Speaker A: Cool. [01:10:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, that's pretty cool of you. And so then I would move in and put my stuff in here. [01:10:48] Speaker A: Well, that's exciting. [01:10:50] Speaker B: It is. [01:10:51] Speaker A: It's a delay, but it's. At least you're moving toward it. [01:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And it'd be nice to have a little getaway area where, you know, you could, you know, play your games or. Or watch your. Watch your stuff and read or write. I mean, like, the space in here we could do. There's so much room for activities. [01:11:15] Speaker A: We lined them up perfectly, you know, That's cool. All right. Sorry I interrupted you. You were. You were getting back. [01:11:26] Speaker B: No, no, no. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, like, to just kind of summarize, you know, basically, what you subject your mind to is kind of what. Dictate your thoughts. Your thoughts, most of the time, dictate who you are and how you respond. So. And this kind of lines up with the growth and fix mindset of things where if you are thinking in a certain headspace, that can definitely dictate not only how you function and. And I don't want to say operate, but, like, definitely how you function to a degree. Whether that's, you know, you know, disappointment or fears or expectations. But when you kind of open your mind up to just different things, I mean, if you look at people differently, you're gonna accept them differently when they let you down or fail you, you know? And as far as music and stuff go, like, I am really sensitive to, like, she. She being Miami, loves Taylor Swift and loves Lana Del Rey and, you know, and I'm just like Beyonce, and I'm just not that guy. Like, outside the fact that I think they're some of the most ungodly women, I'm just kind of in the headspace of, like, nah, I'm. I'm good. You know, we had a whole Taylor Swift concert planned for. For Valentine's Day. She bought tickets. And I was like, you should take a girlfriend that really likes Taylor Swift. And she was like, no, I want to do it with you. Or it was Lady Gaga. No, I want to do it with you. And I'm like, I don't know any Lady Gaga songs. And you should. I. I don't think I do. I mean, I do know the. The good ones, you know, with Bruno Mars or Brad Guy Cooper. Bradley. Bradley Cooper, you know. Oh, yeah. But outside of that, I'm like, dude, like, take someone that would enjoy this concert. I wouldn't enjoy the concert. I'd be praying the whole time that whatever spells she's casting in her music are not opening me up to that type of realm. [01:13:51] Speaker A: You really are like a black person watching a magician. Oh, hell no. Get that voodoo away from me. You get up out this house. I will say I do like Lana Del Rey, but. But there are a lot of her songs I won't listen to because I just don't. I don't like drugs. Just in general. [01:14:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And now you're at a concert where you can't see. [01:14:23] Speaker A: I don't like listening to it. Yeah. You know, I'd go to see Lana because I've heard that's a great show, but I. Yeah, I have no interest in Taylor Swift or any of that stuff. [01:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And honestly, like, once I see you do something or something's presented where it just doesn't sit right with me, like, I don't want to go and support you, you know, I'm not gonna go and sit there and be like, yeah, this is cool. I'm gonna be sitting there like, oh, man. Like, I heard it's some of the best people watching there is because you'll have guys with, like, their ass out in some chaps. And then you also have some girls that are topless and guys that, like, have their dicks exposed. And I'm like, I don't want to see that stuff. I just don't. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:14] Speaker B: You know, so, yeah, she sold the tickets and I failed to deliver on Valentine's Day because I was expecting to go to a concert. And then when she sold them on Monday, well, that gave me three days to plan something. All I had was dinner planned, you know, so. Yeah. [01:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:39] Speaker B: It is what it is, though. [01:15:41] Speaker A: It's a made up holiday. Gives a shit what you. [01:15:45] Speaker B: Okay, okay. What'd you do for Valentine's Day? Now that I hear that. Who? [01:15:54] Speaker A: I can't even remember. I know. I got her a few gifts because I got the whole, like, oh, we couldn't even afford this and I didn't get you anything. And I was like, yeah, that's what I was planning on. I've got. I've got like several. Several Valentine's days and anniversaries in a row now where I've gotten her something, and she hasn't gotten me something, and that's how I won it, really. I'm building up. Building up cards to play. I'm building up my hand. [01:16:28] Speaker B: All right, so what's the play? When you. When do you see yourself using it? But when. What is. What kind of scenario would you be like? I could see me using it at this point in my life with her. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Well, this is just one example that came to mind if. If I had a situation where, like, I couldn't find you anything good for your birthday. So here's a gift card. But keep in mind, for most of our anniversaries and Valentine's together, I've gotten you something awesome. [01:17:05] Speaker B: Okay. [01:17:06] Speaker A: And I think that would work. She's pretty down to earth on stuff [01:17:09] Speaker B: like that, so I figured it'd be like a conversation where. Where you guys are, like, arguing and she's done something wrong. You're like. You know what I mean? You're just like, it's true, huh? Like, I should have realized on our anniversaries and our Valentine's days, when you don't get me gifts, like, you don't love me. You don't love me the way I should be loved. You know what I mean? Like, where you just, like, throw it in your face like, I deserve to be loved. Bam. And then leave the room. [01:17:40] Speaker A: She would laugh so hard if I said something like, she'd never buy it. That's. That's ultimately the problem. Yeah. Now that's. That's. [01:17:50] Speaker B: You're not gonna use it to get sex. Hmm? [01:17:54] Speaker A: It wouldn't work. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Why not? [01:17:58] Speaker A: This is a stone wall. And there's one thing my dick cannot penetrate, and that's a stone wall. I'm. [01:18:12] Speaker B: Oh, [01:18:15] Speaker A: yeah. It doesn't mean that much to her, ultimately, so, you know, I'm limited in what I can do, but I'm always looking for that angle. I'm always looking for the angle. [01:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, no, no. Keep that in your pocket. [01:18:29] Speaker A: That's why I'll pick up. I'll pick up the check at dinner with friends, if I can. If I can pick up the check, I'll do it from time to time just because I want to. Goodwill. [01:18:42] Speaker B: I do. I do pick up the checks, but I'm more of a. Yeah, get me a fucking gift on those holidays. Okay. I got you something. Give me something. Okay. You know, I'll take all the small gifts, The. The many small gifts over the. Having a card in my pocket. [01:19:01] Speaker A: Yeah, they I was listening to Legion of Skanks, and Joe Rogan had gotten Dave Smith two tickets to a UFC game. And so he was like, you know, so I'm looking for someone to take the second ticket. And Louis J. Gomez goes, here's what you do, okay? Like, pick who you're going to take. Fine. Look at all your friends touring schedules. Find out who's got a show that night of the UFC game or the UFC event. [01:19:34] Speaker B: I thought you said UFC game. [01:19:36] Speaker A: Sure, yeah. Sorry. I'm fucking gay. I don't want you to see the match. The UFC match. Find out everyone who's not available that night and text them and say, I've got a ticket for you if you want it. Because they're all gonna remember that you were gonna give them that ticket. And at. The whole podcast just goes like, you're a fucking psycho. Like, how did you. But that's. That's something I would do. That's absolutely something I would do. [01:20:11] Speaker B: Remember, I like that. [01:20:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:15] Speaker B: Next time you invite me to something, I don't care what. What I'm doing, I'm gonna be like, count me in, bud. Count me. And I had some plans tonight, but you are so important. Count me in. And what you're not gonna realize, I actually got canceled off that show that night. And so therefore, you made a great backup plan [01:20:35] Speaker A: that would suck. I'll be like, hey, you want to come to this show in Orange County? It's in three hours. You're like, I'm there. [01:20:43] Speaker B: I catch the next flight. I'll be there in exactly three. We might be 10 minutes late, but I got this. I just booked my flight. It was only $400. Yeah. [01:20:57] Speaker A: $400 to go to a $25 show. That's so funny. [01:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:09] Speaker A: Yeah. So I also would recommend to people, really take stock of what you consume, because I think a lot of it becomes mindless. It's just. [01:21:21] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's not mindless. It just operates. Operates in the background. [01:21:25] Speaker A: Yeah, you're mindlessly engaging it, not mindlessly taking it in. So, like, you just immediately start scrolling as soon as the line at the grocery store is not moving. You flip on a show as soon as you get home. And it's background noise, like, whatever. Really take stock of, like, what you're taking in and maybe do, like, a little fast or cleanse from it for just a couple days and just see if you feel better, you know, Because I think a lot of us have you carrying stuff we don't realize for sure. [01:21:59] Speaker B: For sure. Have you Did I tell you about that master class thing? [01:22:05] Speaker A: Yes. [01:22:07] Speaker B: Did I offer you a seat? [01:22:10] Speaker A: You did. [01:22:11] Speaker B: I did. Don't forget that. Also, [01:22:18] Speaker A: you given me every username and password to everything you have. [01:22:24] Speaker B: So I listened to it on the way to work, and you might want to revisit it, even maybe go under my account and look for. There's like, a. There's a section where it's, like, your progress. Look for the girl with, like, the long hair. And it's something like how to read body language or something like that. She actually does great interview tips in that. Like, she actually does mock interviews with people that aren't aware that they're being studied. And she's like, hey. And then she'll be like, all right, let's redo the interview. I want you to do this. I want you to talk like this because it's portraying something whether, you know it does or not. But, like, she asked one girl, she's like, what was. What's your. What's your. Tell me about you and what's your position? And the girl was like, well, you know, my name's Angie, and I'm the, you know, the. The front desk receptionist. And she was like, see how your tone dropped off? She's like, not even. Like, you're not saying that confidently, but you don't realize it because you're giving it out, and we're receiving it just as you're giving it out. You're not taking it confidently. And, like, the fact that you, like, your arms are under the table. She's like, do me a favor. Put your arms on the table. Use your hands a little bit, you know, but keep your arm, like, take up some space. Don't be so. So indie. Like, so. So small. Like, your hands are tucked in. Your arms are table. She's like, spread out, and she, like, has her. And she goes. Now, when you say that, say it like this. No, no, no, say it again like this. And like, the girl re. Says it like, my name is Angie, and I'm the front desk receptionist. And she was like, do you see the difference that put out? Like, you know, and so it might be good to watch. But what. I. I brought that up because I'll play those every morning on my way to work, wherever I'm at. Carl Newport. I think it's Carl Newport. Anyhow. The. The guy Newport, the author, he's the one that has deep work. He wrote the book Deep Work. It's basically kind of summarizing his points in Deep Work. His. His. His classes and it's good, you know, it doesn't go as in depth as the book does with. I think it was David Hume, the guy who does, who owns Hume Lake. But it definitely still talks about the science behind multitasking. It talks about the science behind like providing an atmosphere to be non distracted from. From. For phone, from phone calls and text and emails. And the studies that like they did, showing when someone would email right away a response to an email, their productivity was going down more and more and more versus the person that said, for the next hour, I'm not looking at my emails until such and such time. And then they would go through and commit 15 minutes of just answering emails and they get back to their task. So he's on there. But again, going back to the mind part of it is I'll play those. And then throughout the day I'd find myself chewing on what they said that morning. You know what I mean? Like I'm, I'm. And it's not consciously, it's not consciously where I'm like, oh, you know, he, he said, I kind of want to understand that more. No, it's just like throughout my day, it's like little things he says replays in my mind. And then I'm like, oh shit, like okay, like it again. And then I also find myself trying to utilize the tools that I'm hearing that morning. You know the negotiator one with that guy Voss, he talks about like having certain voices when you're talking to people, negotiating, you know, having like having that DJ voice where you slow down, you say, so what I hear you saying is, you know, is that, is that true? Or taking like the high pitch, like hey, you know, like, like you're on their side type voice. But I find myself kind of like thinking over there's those things as well as utilizing them throughout my day and seeing like, okay, does this work? Mirroring people, not just their, what they're saying. When you're like, man, this week was hard. So this week was hard for you. Tell me, tell me a little bit more about that. And then they go on some more and they're like, man, you know, I just don't get like how sometimes work. Yeah, I can understand how, you know, sometimes work can be. And then with the girl, she's like, mirror them. If they're folding their arms, she's like, give it a couple seconds and fold your arms. If they're, if they're like playing, you know, doing something, give it a couple seconds and do that and watch how they get closer to you. So I'll find myself doing that. Okay, this dude's got his hands on his hips. I'm gonna put my hands on my hips, you know, just in a couple minutes. And then, you know, make it look natural and move from that. But again, it's what I'm subjecting my mind to every morning. You know, it's not like it's not the true crime. Like, I was a big true crime junkie with True Crime Garage. I was. I was listening to their podcast all the time and, you know, then you kind of like. And what I found myself doing, like, objectifying women when watching pornography is I was looking at every individual around me throughout the day and was like, could I see him killing somebody and acting normal? Yeah, like, just. I'll just imagine they killed someone last night and be like, yeah, I could see that. I can see if they killed someone last night. Like, if they really did, I could see them being capable of that. And I just did. Did that naturally. From what from. And on this side of the fence, I think it's from listening to so much True Crime Garage and hearing the stories about these guys who were killing women in a local area, but no one knew because they were also the friendliest guy at work and the funniest. And so I'm like, oh, like, what if I'm working with some dude like that that just likes to skulls, you know, Like, I, you know, could be him. Could be. And so I thought, I definitely think what we subject our minds to. And so that's why I'm trying to be intentional on what I've subject my mind to this year. [01:28:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, you're right. And like, you might not even think that's really a bad thing. Just sort of like, you know, I don't always think it's a bad thing to, like, know what's going on in the world, but you also have to ask, like, are you really meant to know what's going on everywhere in the world? You know? Like, are you meant to only really know what's going on in your town? [01:29:06] Speaker B: And maybe if I can't impact it, I don't care to watch it. [01:29:09] Speaker A: It's not something you're supposed to see. [01:29:11] Speaker B: I want to be in the know. I want to be in the know. But, like, I honestly, when you had brought up the fact that all those kids were dying, like, I was like, holy, where have I been? I know nothing about that right now. I think Israel's behind everything. I know that much. And then outside of that, I'm like, I don't. I don't know none of that. And if I did, what good would it be to give me the know that we might go to World War Three? I don't know. But outside of that, like, I can't impact anybody over there. I can't lobby any politicians to put a stop to this. Like, and if I had the knowledge and had the power, would I. I could definitely go stand on a corner tomorrow with a sign that says stop. Whatever. But, yeah, even if, you know, I wouldn't. I tell you right now, I wouldn't. What's that gonna do? Just have people drive by, honk at me, look at that idiot with a sign? Like, that's how I feel about it. So I would never do it, no matter what. Don't care how much behind it I was. If I didn't think Trump should be in office, cool. I don't think he should be in office. But I'm not gonna go stand in the corner and say, I don't think Trump should be in an office. Yeah. So I get what you're saying. Like, why. Why would I need to know everything that's going on in the world? I can't impact that. Yeah. So I have a say on it at the fucking office, and it could. [01:30:35] Speaker A: It could be bad for you. [01:30:37] Speaker B: Mm. I don't need to know. Like, me having to say at the office on. On a political view is pointless. Like, I would honestly rather know who you are intimately. And it sounds weird. I'd rather know who you are personally is a better way to say it. Impact. Have some influence on that. I can influence somebody's life at work. [01:30:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:59] Speaker B: What are you struggling with? [01:31:00] Speaker A: You know, honestly, dude, like, I went to a memorial service one time, and this guy was a football coach, like, a high school football coach. And at one point, I mean, the whole Saddleback sanctuary was full. This. This guy was so. I mean, he wasn't a famous guy or anything, but at one point, one of the speakers asked anyone under the age of 24 who's been impacted by this guy, stand up. And, like, half the room fucking stands up. And it's like, yeah, this guy had way more influence on people than a podcaster or a fucking politician. You know? I mean, in a sense, you know what I'm saying? [01:31:41] Speaker B: No, but it was. It was a more personal effect. Yeah. [01:31:45] Speaker A: A more positive effect, for sure. [01:31:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:48] Speaker B: But even if it's positive for a politician, it's still. It's still limited. A politician might get. Yeah. Might do something well in this community, and people, yeah, they're affected secondhand from it. You know, he goes in and makes a movement for a local restaurant about to close down. You know, been. Been a staple in the community forever, and he comes through great. He's impacted a whole community secondhandedly. He impacted that family personally that owns a restaurant. But only the community is affected secondhandly. Now they get to still eat at this place that they made memories, whatever the fuck it is. But to have someone like a coach where, like, you're. You're going to them and you're like, yeah, you know, like, you know, he's coming up like, hey, what's wrong, Johnny? You know, like, you've been. You haven't been the same this week. You know, things are rough at home. Well, if you ever need to get away, I'm here. You know, if you ever need to talk, I'm here. And then when that moment does happen, the. The advice you can give, you know, like, I was sitting down with, Fuck, what's his name? El Padre or something like that, you know, fucking. He used to be Rico Suave. Now I call him something like some World of Warcraft name. But me and El Padre were sitting down in the. One of the. One of, like, the facilities storage rooms, and we're just sitting there bullshitting, just taking a moment from our busy days, and this guy walks in. He was, mind if I sit with you guys? And we're like, oh, fuck, here comes Bummer. You know, because this guy's usually a bummer. And he was, man. And he's an older Mexican dude. And he goes, he was, man. I am fucking steaming right now. Like, what's going on? Like, this is out of character. You know, Usually the dudes like, good morning. How was your weekend? You know? And then he's like, I can see why some men kill their wives. We're like, what the. Yeah. So we started, like, laughing because we're like, dude, we've never heard you talk like this. He's like, man, he goes, all weekend, it was just nag, nag, nag, nag, nag. He's like, I. I understood the, like, what you told me the first time. You want to keep telling me five times? I can see why men kill their wives. And I'm like, wow, this got dark. So after joking around for a little bit, I was like, hey, like, on the real, this is a great opportunity for you to be vulnerable with your wife and, like, honestly, like, let her know, like, hey, when you tell me More than once. You might, I don't know what you mean by it. You might be insinuating, ensuring that it's on my list still. But like you could let her know. It triggers something in you. You could let her know like hey, like when you say that after the first time, how I hear is like hey dummy, don't forget. You know, I gotta tell you five like whatever it may be bro, like this is a great time for you. You. The, the fact of the matter is you love her. He's. Yeah, but I don't like her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you love her and you know, like this, like this is a great way. And at the end of it I was like, dude, if you need to talk or vent, like I'm here. But like I feel for you. I get it, I get it, dude. I can't. I think that's more valuable or precious I guess than like you know, reaching the masses, being a politician or you know, somebody that's, you know, kind of. And even then they're doing it for a certain reason. You know, it's like what you said earlier about the, the celebrities that send texts for Aurora, you know, don't forget [01:35:38] Speaker A: they're doing me Aurora. [01:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Don't forget about little old me. Yeah. So man, Jle Nick, I think, I think I'm going to watch some Jesel Nick tonight man. [01:35:53] Speaker A: It's good man. The other comics talk but he's good somebody. [01:35:58] Speaker B: Oh you know my buddy, my buddy who lives down the street from you. What's a good way Mr. B? You ever hear, you ever met Mr. B? It's not even his name. It's not even. Okay, well he's like one of my best, he is my best friend but he sent me, he used to pay for my, my Mormon mission trips when we go talk to Mormons. Like his company would fund like me and my family going but he, he's now a new millionaire and he's going to actually go see Jeselnick live in like a month. I'm jealous bro. I'm jealous. JL Nick is hilarious. Ask him to take you, you know why? [01:36:51] Speaker A: Fly you out private. [01:36:53] Speaker B: He has extra tickets. But I'm not, I'm not gonna ask. So check it out. You know why Jessel Nick got cancelled when he had a, a talk show? [01:37:06] Speaker A: Oh, the shark thing is. [01:37:08] Speaker B: The shark thing. So like there was a news report. Yeah, there was a news report that a man got eaten by a shark and died and. Or bit by a shark and died and they celebrated it with the shark party. Because the sharks finally got a victory. And. Yeah, yeah, the network didn't think that was funny and, and cancel them. [01:37:31] Speaker A: Now I get that, to me, hits a little differently. [01:37:38] Speaker B: That's true humor, bro. [01:37:39] Speaker A: Really? It kind of what they call it. [01:37:44] Speaker B: Disregenerate [01:37:47] Speaker A: degenerate. [01:37:48] Speaker B: No, they called it, like, I thought they called it disregenerate humor in this study I was reading, which I thought was a weird way to phrase it instead of just saying crude humor. Disparagement. Humor. That's the word. Disparagement. [01:38:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it, if it went down the way he describes it. It didn't sound super funny. And I guess that would be my problem with it, is that you were just sort of mocking a dead guy. Like, the point was that we kill like a hundred million sharks a year, and they. [01:38:23] Speaker B: Yeah, and they finally got a victory. [01:38:25] Speaker A: Four years. [01:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:26] Speaker A: Yeah. But it's like. So I, I get the funny angle on that, but it's like this guy didn't actually kill any sharks. And, like, it didn't sound funny what you did. Like, I don't know. Like, I, I, I'm sure there's funny angles on that, but, you know, it just sort of. That, That's a good example of like. I don't know. [01:38:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, so what I was saying earlier, how did die. [01:38:53] Speaker A: Cancer. [01:38:55] Speaker B: I mean, we have a cancer party. I mean, but that's kind of where. [01:39:01] Speaker A: You know what? You know what, dude? Just the words made me laugh. You're right. [01:39:09] Speaker B: You're gonna be in town next week. I think we're gonna do it in like, three hours. No, it's Doug. But that's the thing. [01:39:16] Speaker A: Like, had a great. [01:39:19] Speaker B: Or. [01:39:20] Speaker A: I think, I think it was, I think it was Norm MacDonald actually had a joke about. I can't remember who. I think it was Doug Stanhope, where he was like, everyone loses their battle with cancer, but, like, if you die, the cancer also dies. So that's a draw. [01:39:35] Speaker B: Like, you also killed the cancer. [01:39:38] Speaker A: It's not. It's not like the cancer jumps out of your body. It, like, starts fucking your wife. [01:39:47] Speaker B: So. Okay, that, that's actually a good point. We actually could have a party still. Cuz doesn't have cancer no more. [01:39:58] Speaker A: This is what we were funding. [01:40:01] Speaker B: If your mom could get that 300 back to hear me out, Hear me out. [01:40:10] Speaker A: The whole party is contingent on getting that. [01:40:17] Speaker B: We could put that towards beer. We would have a banger. [01:40:21] Speaker A: Yeah, let's charge a cover. [01:40:25] Speaker B: I mean, that's what I was saying 20 bucks ahead. [01:40:32] Speaker A: There you go. Now we're making money for cancer. [01:40:34] Speaker B: Yeah. So Miami and I were driving or driving home tonight, and we saw a thing that said massage and head spa. And I was like. She goes, oh, wow. Like a massage and head spa? And I was like, yeah, that's awesome. Like, you get the massage, I'll get the head. Like that. That'll be great, actually. Like, that works out awesome. She didn't think it was funny. I thought you weren't into that. Yeah, but, like, it's an or. It's. It's a company that. That's what they. That's what they do. So, like, you seemed excited. [01:41:17] Speaker A: My community. [01:41:19] Speaker B: Yeah, you seemed excited. I thought you wanted a massage. I wanted head. Come on. You seem excited. [01:41:29] Speaker A: You seemed excited. Totally. Just the downtrodden phrase. I don't know. You seemed excited. [01:41:40] Speaker B: Hey, Gary Owen. Were you ever a Gary Owen fan? [01:41:45] Speaker A: I never got into him. I don't like the wiggery. [01:41:49] Speaker B: Oh, man. [01:41:51] Speaker A: Present company excluded. [01:41:53] Speaker B: Present company excluded. So, yeah, so we go to our company party. Mind you, I am dressed to the nines. I'm looking good. My suit is. Is fitted. It's not a suit. I bought and just threw on. I'm looking decent. I'm looking proper. Fast forward about a week. One of the employees like, yeah, my wife, because we have a black. We have a couple black guys that work with us, and one of them's on this crew, but his lead is a Mexican Dunios. My wife said, you come off as a. As like, you used to hang out with black people a lot. And I was like, really? Because I've tried hard to, like, not give that off, you know? And she was like. He was like, yeah, she thinks you're more black than Nate's black. And I'm like, well, I appreciate that, but no, I like to work. So. Hey, speaking of sharks and black people, do you know what? White people and sharks. I'm sorry, do you know what humans and sharks have in common? [01:43:01] Speaker A: I do, but I want you to say the punchline. [01:43:04] Speaker B: All the great ones are white. I thought that was hilarious. [01:43:14] Speaker A: We'll be right back after these. [01:43:16] Speaker B: So that guy that came in and said, can we have a seat? Can I. Can I have a seat with you guys? When we left before we. We parted ways, he looks at me and he said something about a girl with a black eye. He was like, you know what? You tell a girl. What do you like. Do you know, you call a girl the black eye? No, that's the one I said, I followed up with, do you know what you tell a girl with two black eyes? And he was like, what? I said, nothing. He told her twice already. He came out with something like. But it was just funny. We left that room talking about, like, beating women jokes. It was right up my alley. I was like, wow. Like, yeah, that's rough. Yeah, that's all I got, man. I don't, you know, just. Just careful what you subject your mind to. You know what I mean? [01:44:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. [01:44:15] Speaker B: It's been good catching up with you. What do you want to talk about next week? [01:44:21] Speaker A: I don't know. I feel like I'm gonna. I had an idea during the podcast and I forgot it, but I feel like if I. When I listen back, when I'm editing, I'll probably get it back, so. [01:44:33] Speaker B: I like that. I like that. I'll text you. All right, brother. Well, I love you. [01:44:41] Speaker A: I love you, too. It was good. [01:44:42] Speaker B: And let's get back on track. Next Saturday. Yeah, next Saturday. Nine o'. Clock. [01:44:47] Speaker A: Let's do it. I'm so glad we're back in the same time zone. Oh, my. [01:44:52] Speaker B: So am I. Dude, that was difficult. That was difficult. [01:44:54] Speaker A: 10 o' clock for you. And sometimes not right at 10. [01:44:59] Speaker B: And then sometimes two hour long episodes, huh? [01:45:02] Speaker A: Yeah. So. [01:45:05] Speaker B: All right, brother. I. But, hey, on a good side, I have had a handful of people ask when we're coming back out with episodes, like, legitimately, like, hey, nice. You guys have hadn't had anything new lately. What's going on? And I just told them, you know, straight up his hillbilly ass. Parents don't know what to do with kid crying, and he's losing his shit, you know? So I told him, you got arrested for putting hands on your mom. Sorry, that's probably too much. I shouldn't have. Should have kidding that out, but I'm glad the whole baby thing worked out. Now she now knows. Yeah. Only one person's allowed to cry in this house, and that's the baby. [01:45:55] Speaker A: All right, on that note, We're back. We're back in the saddle. [01:46:03] Speaker B: Yes. We're doing it, Harry.

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